Corruption and Sports

[stadus]

With due respect, political manifestos usually have many promises, lots of wishful thinking and plenty of stuff that politicians hope that people forget when it comes to putting it in practice. Still, it is interesting that there is an specific point on corruption in sports and I would not be inclined to think that they are pointing to betting, but rather to a more general objective of reducing money laundering and bad practice in general. Governments rarely care about honesty in betting other than basic regulations.

Corrupt politicians usually do that and they will create a lot of problems if there are more corrupt politicians running the country than the good ones, especially if most of them are holding a higher position in the government.

Corruption in the sport does not usually involve politicians, in the theory of game-fixing that I read, mostly involve people are those who are running the league as they are in control of everything when someone has a league, he creates the rules and he influences the implementation of the rules.

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[zanezane]

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you can see all types of corruption even in sports. i guess, they are not special not to be excluded with this long running prob of humanity. and sadly to say, we can't avoid such circumstances from happening as it is like innate human behaviour.
even in selection of players, there will always be something that will come up as unfair to some of them. i guess, we just need to accept such fact but if you are aggrieved of the situation and directly involved, you can always seek justice if you want. but such ordeal will be long and tiresome process. a reality check that we all need to admit.

Don't say that BS that it's inevitable or unavoidable, if the parents teach their kids the right thing then we will see something different slowly come up when the new generation rolls out, it's the way we raise the children that we will be able to slowly destroy corruption.

[Pamadar]

Corruption in the sport does not usually involve politicians, in the theory of game-fixing that I read, mostly involve people are those who are running the league as they are in control of everything when someone has a league, he creates the rules and he influences the implementation of the rules.

True! More on internal people who completely understand how the rules were being implemented.

It's no brainier that this kind of people are aware of how to influence other people who are also involved in certain sports,
they are dealing behind and with the help of huge amount of offers it can easily be done.

We do hear lots of rumors about game fixing but up to date there are less that being executed, only means that corruptions inside the sport business are highly controlled and hard to stop..

[Rengga Jati]

Come think about it, who does not want money? Who does not want power? Well I think this corruption issues with sports has been with us for such a long time now. -snip-

Money works all the time, and it's true that in every places corruptions are present not only with the government but there are many institutions where corruptions are dominating.

They actually have had much money, but once they can get higher money again, they will do. How much they have, if they have been involved in any corruption cycle, they will not be able to be out from that cycle. They want higher and higher money again.
Yeah, to be true, they may think money is everything.

And how do you imagine these cash flows? Would even the average athlete (who clearly does not need money like the average person) risk his career to make some extra money? For some reason it seems irrational to me. Even having received this dirty money, you still need to somehow legalize it ... in general, more trouble and risks than profit.

A club or institutions consist of many people, various people with various personality, desires, and power. Here in the world of Sport and Club, we not only talk about athletes themselves but the unity of the people in it.
When there is a gap where they can use corruption, they will not work alone. And of course, they will play neatly, especially if this has happened many times and becomes like a cycle of corruption in the club or the sports institution.
Even if someone knows this, he could not dare to report it, more - more they did not have greater power. Or precisely they will join again to enjoy the money from the corruption.
They usually won't play openly. The budget markup is one of the ways that is most often used for this corruption. And much more.
For athletes themselves, I did not accuse, but not all athletes have a good payment, and when they are tempted by the money that can be produced, then they can take it.

[Sled]

Corruption in the sport does not usually involve politicians, in the theory of game-fixing that I read, mostly involve people are those who are running the league as they are in control of everything when someone has a league, he creates the rules and he influences the implementation of the rules.

True! More on internal people who completely understand how the rules were being implemented.

It's no brainier that this kind of people are aware of how to influence other people who are also involved in certain sports,
they are dealing behind and with the help of huge amount of offers it can easily be done.

We do hear lots of rumors about game fixing but up to date there are less that being executed, only means that corruptions inside the sport business are highly controlled and hard to stop..

That it looks bad and getting worse at all since this has become a practice by now. Have nothing to do with this but just be at least we are to know how it is be going like that. Corruption has been in the mind of those people and these people will continue to do this thing as long as they can still make a deal.
I don't think this is just only a rumor but probably this becomes an issue right now and that has been obvious.

[livingfree]

Corruption isn't a business.

Well, it might be already the business treatment for those corrupt people that are inside the sports org or any agency where they belong.

There are those people that makes it as a business already and they've became used to it with how much money they can make from it.

And getting out of the situation will downgrade their lifestyle, so, they choose to keep what they are doing despite of being unacceptable in the society. They can't let go because they may not sustain their lifestyle by doing so. So in short, it is greed in play here. And I believe, we can't really avoid this in any government agency, so sports organization or government agency is not excluded from this practice.

True.

They've been used to that lifestyle as if it's already part of their life to corrupt things including the sports.

But if they will be caught and get arrested, for sure that they will regret that they've done it. They don't realize what they do is bad because they're experiencing it with lavish life through corruption but it will come to an end.

[ipanks]

Corruption in the sport does not usually involve politicians, in the theory of game-fixing that I read, mostly involve people are those who are running the league as they are in control of everything when someone has a league, he creates the rules and he influences the implementation of the rules.

True! More on internal people who completely understand how the rules were being implemented.

It's no brainier that this kind of people are aware of how to influence other people who are also involved in certain sports,
they are dealing behind and with the help of huge amount of offers it can easily be done.

We do hear lots of rumors about game fixing but up to date there are less that being executed, only means that corruptions inside the sport business are highly controlled and hard to stop..

That it looks bad and getting worse at all since this has become a practice by now. Have nothing to do with this but just be at least we are to know how it is be going like that. Corruption has been in the mind of those people and these people will continue to do this thing as long as they can still make a deal.
I don't think this is just only a rumor but probably this becomes an issue right now and that has been obvious.

I believe the corruption can control and even stop but that needs an effort from the government to arrest their colleague who involves in that corruption. People who do commit corruption are hunger for making more money and they got offers from the people who are usually corrupt. That is just the beginning because if their deal continues, that can attract more people to join with them. It needs serious prevention from the government because the corruption was already touched the high-level instances to the low-level instances and that was happened everywhere.

[carlfebz2]

Corruption in the sport does not usually involve politicians, in the theory of game-fixing that I read, mostly involve people are those who are running the league as they are in control of everything when someone has a league, he creates the rules and he influences the implementation of the rules.

True! More on internal people who completely understand how the rules were being implemented.

It's no brainier that this kind of people are aware of how to influence other people who are also involved in certain sports,
they are dealing behind and with the help of huge amount of offers it can easily be done.

We do hear lots of rumors about game fixing but up to date there are less that being executed, only means that corruptions inside the sport business are highly controlled and hard to stop..

That it looks bad and getting worse at all since this has become a practice by now. Have nothing to do with this but just be at least we are to know how it is be going like that. Corruption has been in the mind of those people and these people will continue to do this thing as long as they can still make a deal.
I don't think this is just only a rumor but probably this becomes an issue right now and that has been obvious.

Would stay as a rumor because proofs could be easily be deleted or erased if they wanted to and even kill out someone for giving out leaks or something like that this is why its really hard to prove out once theres some anomaly that do happen not only limiting on business but also in other common sectors as well.

Corrruption is everywhere and to those who do sit up on the high ranking or the top of the chain will always have that kind of motive since they do really have the position and also with other

people who are financially capable then they would be using up their finances to earn more money even if its means on corrupting something.

[Natalim]

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people who are financially capable then they would be using up their finances to earn more money even if its means on corrupting something.

That's how greedy people, those who are already rich will get richer and while the poor will continue to struggle and will become poorer. There's no humanity for them anymore, all they aim is to make money even if they will commit a crime, and they are not afraid of committing a crime as they know they are powerful enough that they can get away when they get caught.

Sports are created for competition, but once the betting came in, speculators already starts to doubt the reputation of the sports.

[Kittygalore]

With due respect, political manifestos usually have many promises, lots of wishful thinking and plenty of stuff that politicians hope that people forget when it comes to putting it in practice. Still, it is interesting that there is an specific point on corruption in sports and I would not be inclined to think that they are pointing to betting, but rather to a more general objective of reducing money laundering and bad practice in general. Governments rarely care about honesty in betting other than basic regulations.

Corruption can happen anywhere, it's just that it's prevalent in politics but that doesn't mean that it can't happen in another aspect of life, and corruption is a blanket term so it's covering a lot of stuff like stealing, killing for power and power tripping and abuse. Sports isn't an exception, people in the higher ups when they get too much power for them to handle, they get too corrupted by it.

[Maslate]

With due respect, political manifestos usually have many promises, lots of wishful thinking and plenty of stuff that politicians hope that people forget when it comes to putting it in practice. Still, it is interesting that there is an specific point on corruption in sports and I would not be inclined to think that they are pointing to betting, but rather to a more general objective of reducing money laundering and bad practice in general. Governments rarely care about honesty in betting other than basic regulations.

Corruption can happen anywhere, it's just that it's prevalent in politics but that doesn't mean that it can't happen in another aspect of life, and corruption is a blanket term so it's covering a lot of stuff like stealing, killing for power and power tripping and abuse. Sports isn't an exception, people in the higher ups when they get too much power for them to handle, they get too corrupted by it.

We can focus on the corruption in sports or what we called sports rigging.

This is not new, though not many have been convicted on this crime, based on the speculation, it's happening in the small or big leagues in any sports.
One of the most popular scandals in the past is the NBA refs rigging the game because he was betting on the game.

Tim Donaghy, is it familiar?

[poldanmig]

~snip~
people who are financially capable then they would be using up their finances to earn more money even if its means on corrupting something.

That's how greedy people, those who are already rich will get richer and while the poor will continue to struggle and will become poorer. There's no humanity for them anymore, all they aim is to make money even if they will commit a crime, and they are not afraid of committing a crime as they know they are powerful enough that they can get away when they get caught.

Sports are created for competition, but once the betting came in, speculators already starts to doubt the reputation of the sports.

Corruption now seems to have become a cultural culture for politicians and state officials, and in my opinion excessive consumptive lifestyle makes officials corrupt without thinking a lot of people they are harming, even in my country, corruption has occurred in various state authorities including sports nowadays, it can be said that corruption is like a disease, the stage of corruption develops steadily from acute to chronic, from benign to malignant  .

[coupable]

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

The answer is simple; it's because the sports business generates so much revenue than expected. This expanding growth open the eyes of greedy persons who should be ready to shit in order to get a portion from that money. I think it's a little bit over to compare thi situation with the situation of poor people starving; sports become useless if we consider poorness as priority to fight against without to remember that the business of sports itself is responsible for the life of millions of people who work on it.

[Mahanton]

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you can see all types of corruption even in sports. i guess, they are not special not to be excluded with this long running prob of humanity. and sadly to say, we can't avoid such circumstances from happening as it is like innate human behaviour.
even in selection of players, there will always be something that will come up as unfair to some of them. i guess, we just need to accept such fact but if you are aggrieved of the situation and directly involved, you can always seek justice if you want. but such ordeal will be long and tiresome process. a reality check that we all need to admit.

Don't say that BS that it's inevitable or unavoidable, if the parents teach their kids the right thing then we will see something different slowly come up when the new generation rolls out, it's the way we raise the children that we will be able to slowly destroy corruption.

Its an important thing but not an assurance that when they do grow up they wouldnt really go into that path considering that there would lots of factors that could really affect along the way.
I agree somehow that this is something that cant really be avoided nor really get rid of it but there are still ways on at least easing this kind of situation.
Corruption is something that cant really be totally resolved out.

[tippytoes]

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you can see all types of corruption even in sports. i guess, they are not special not to be excluded with this long running prob of humanity. and sadly to say, we can't avoid such circumstances from happening as it is like innate human behaviour.
even in selection of players, there will always be something that will come up as unfair to some of them. i guess, we just need to accept such fact but if you are aggrieved of the situation and directly involved, you can always seek justice if you want. but such ordeal will be long and tiresome process. a reality check that we all need to admit.

Don't say that BS that it's inevitable or unavoidable, if the parents teach their kids the right thing then we will see something different slowly come up when the new generation rolls out, it's the way we raise the children that we will be able to slowly destroy corruption.

Its an important thing but not an assurance that when they do grow up they wouldnt really go into that path considering that there would lots of factors that could really affect along the way.
I agree somehow that this is something that cant really be avoided nor really get rid of it but there are still ways on at least easing this kind of situation.
Corruption is something that cant really be totally resolved out.

Even if the kids today are raised in appropriate manner, you are right, along the way, they may change their perspectives in life or their morales depending on what situation they are in. I've seen good people turning to corrupt individuals once they got their power or have political position. We can never be sure that kids brought with good moralities in life will stick to what they grew up with. So yes, sometimes it is unavoidable as we can't predict someone's behavior when they start experiencing power on their hands.

[LUCKMCFLY]

With due respect, political manifestos usually have many promises, lots of wishful thinking and plenty of stuff that politicians hope that people forget when it comes to putting it in practice. Still, it is interesting that there is an specific point on corruption in sports and I would not be inclined to think that they are pointing to betting, but rather to a more general objective of reducing money laundering and bad practice in general. Governments rarely care about honesty in betting other than basic regulations.

Corrupt politicians usually do that and they will create a lot of problems if there are more corrupt politicians running the country than the good ones, especially if most of them are holding a higher position in the government.

Corruption in the sport does not usually involve politicians, in the theory of game-fixing that I read, mostly involve people are those who are running the league as they are in control of everything when someone has a league, he creates the rules and he influences the implementation of the rules.

Wow, there are many aspects under which politicians, political problems have been above sport, just realizing with football there is much where we can say, only remember the shameful scheme of a president of FIFA and all businesses , fixes in world elimination matches and even fixes in the soccer world cup games were made that cannot be easily erased, from there I deduce that the VAR came out, and thanks to the Netherlands, when the referee checks the VAR, now all the Spectators will be able to see what the referee sees on the giant screen of the soccer stadium.

Despite all these facts, corruption for me, lies in these types of acts and in another way with what happened with the world qualifying game with Brazil vs Argentina, recently, these acts make them become corrupt thanks to political problems that They can never be above football, for now it is unfortunately like that.

[slackovic]

Wow, there are many aspects under which politicians, political problems have been above sport, just realizing with football there is much where we can say, only remember the shameful scheme of a president of FIFA and all businesses , fixes in world elimination matches and even fixes in the soccer world cup games were made that cannot be easily erased, from there I deduce that the VAR came out, and thanks to the Netherlands, when the referee checks the VAR, now all the Spectators will be able to see what the referee sees on the giant screen of the soccer stadium.

Despite all these facts, corruption for me, lies in these types of acts and in another way with what happened with the world qualifying game with Brazil vs Argentina, recently, these acts make them become corrupt thanks to political problems that They can never be above football, for now it is unfortunately like that.

You think that the fact that the crowd in the stadium seeing what VAR referee sees will make them be fair? I don't think so. If they want or have to invalidate some goal or penalty, they will whether the crowd in the stadium agrees with the decision or not.

My opinion is that there will always be a corruption when big amount of money is at stake.

[ipanks]

Wow, there are many aspects under which politicians, political problems have been above sport, just realizing with football there is much where we can say, only remember the shameful scheme of a president of FIFA and all businesses , fixes in world elimination matches and even fixes in the soccer world cup games were made that cannot be easily erased, from there I deduce that the VAR came out, and thanks to the Netherlands, when the referee checks the VAR, now all the Spectators will be able to see what the referee sees on the giant screen of the soccer stadium.

Despite all these facts, corruption for me, lies in these types of acts and in another way with what happened with the world qualifying game with Brazil vs Argentina, recently, these acts make them become corrupt thanks to political problems that They can never be above football, for now it is unfortunately like that.

You think that the fact that the crowd in the stadium seeing what VAR referee sees will make them be fair? I don't think so. If they want or have to invalidate some goal or penalty, they will whether the crowd in the stadium agrees with the decision or not.

My opinion is that there will always be a corruption when big amount of money is at stake.

The corruption will always be there, whether we see it clearly or the corruption is hiding from us. Those people who commit corruption will always do it secretly and pretend that they are clear without any corruption. The corruption itself already happens from the highest level and if they do that,  the law will hard to touch them because they can moves invisible. Until the honest officers from the government have a big effort to search for the evidence, that case will appear publicly. Otherwise, that will still happen for a long time.

[Ziskinberg]

Wow, there are many aspects under which politicians, political problems have been above sport, just realizing with football there is much where we can say, only remember the shameful scheme of a president of FIFA and all businesses , fixes in world elimination matches and even fixes in the soccer world cup games were made that cannot be easily erased, from there I deduce that the VAR came out, and thanks to the Netherlands, when the referee checks the VAR, now all the Spectators will be able to see what the referee sees on the giant screen of the soccer stadium.

Despite all these facts, corruption for me, lies in these types of acts and in another way with what happened with the world qualifying game with Brazil vs Argentina, recently, these acts make them become corrupt thanks to political problems that They can never be above football, for now it is unfortunately like that.

You think that the fact that the crowd in the stadium seeing what VAR referee sees will make them be fair? I don't think so. If they want or have to invalidate some goal or penalty, they will whether the crowd in the stadium agrees with the decision or not.

My opinion is that there will always be a corruption when big amount of money is at stake.

The corruption will always be there, whether we see it clearly or the corruption is hiding from us. Those people who commit corruption will always do it secretly and pretend that they are clear without any corruption. The corruption itself already happens from the highest level and if they do that,  the law will hard to touch them because they can moves invisible. Until the honest officers from the government have a big effort to search for the evidence, that case will appear publicly. Otherwise, that will still happen for a long time.

Actually, what I see is not the law, it's the fact that it's hard to prove a fixed game, and only a few got caught on that. If it's within inside and no one will talk or no one will show up as witness of the sports rigging, nothing will happen because all we can do is to speculate.

[Xinarae*]

While there are this principle of sportmanship in our system... There are these people who only thinks of this entertainment as business, and business is business. Although there are clean businesses out there, that latter part are still in action, especially when gambling takes place. Money is money for this people and it is obvious that they will do anything to have this money.

I agree that now everyone thinks sports is a business and therefore corruption is on the rise. It is possible to prevent corruption by playing as a means of entertainment money is a business that can bring everyone down the administration must be free from corruption and ensure.