Corruption and Sports

[Natsuu]

While there are this principle of sportmanship in our system... There are these people who only thinks of this entertainment as business, and business is business. Although there are clean businesses out there, that latter part are still in action, especially when gambling takes place. Money is money for this people and it is obvious that they will do anything to have this money.

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[KTChampions]

Are you that naive? If a player is forbidden to bet on his own game, it can be done for him by anyone - brother, distant relative, friend, etc. This kind of restrictions simply do not work.

Track fake matches is possible because the participants make a lot of money on this. You just need to do a lot of work to collect evidence, and this is of little interest to anyone when there are easier ways to catch the corrupt officials.

As far as I know, the only working way (at least from the bookmaker's side) is to look at the volume of bets. If the volume is sharply higher than the average for a regular match (we exclude top events), then such a match is often considered suspicious and bets are returned to all those who have already made them.

[chaser15]

wrong mate , I personally knew a player close to me that admit about being corrupt, they tend(him and his team mate)  are accepting money just to drop the game .. and now he quits the sport he loved because of death threat  the fruit of His own greediness .
but i hate to know that because i once live that said sport but after knowing that statements? then i stop supporting the game.

Maybe in your story that was just a low-class league. A professional player playing in a big league will think twice if they need to drop a game so I agree with the user you quoted that most cases of rigged games are because of officials and not mostly with the players. How come that player can still drop a game if he's the one only involved. The coach can bench that player.

What is the sport involved by the way?

[Beparanf]

While there are this principle of sportmanship in our system... There are these people who only thinks of this entertainment as business, and business is business. Although there are clean businesses out there, that latter part are still in action, especially when gambling takes place. Money is money for this people and it is obvious that they will do anything to have this money.

Right now, Sports is just running because its already a business. That's why most the team is a franchise to gain income for expenses on team roster as well the management side. Sports is pretty just for money and most players are playing because of money and not just for fun and entertainment. So all this money talks, Corruption and bribe just to fixed match is common scenario to gain more profit out of it for the higher ups in gambling. This is the sad truth.

[Victorycoin]

Commercialization and corruption have also started burning in the stadium instead of developing sports, it has become a matter of financial transactions and trade no one thinks through entertainment that everyone is starting a new business. Making money is their main goal so corruption is engulfing everything people are willing to do bad things for money each team and their members are playing for money.

[KTChampions]

Commercialization and corruption have also started burning in the stadium instead of developing sports, it has become a matter of financial transactions and trade no one thinks through entertainment that everyone is starting a new business. Making money is their main goal so corruption is engulfing everything people are willing to do bad things for money each team and their members are playing for money.

You probably have a misconception about business and corruption - commercialization and corruption are mutually contradictory things. A businessman will not steal from himself, corruption occurs only where officials dispose of other people's assets - as, for example, in football, where UEFA and FIFA officials are symbols of corruption.

[wxa7115]

Corruption is a broad term, it has eaten deep into many spheres and aspects including sports unfortunately. It has many applications. I remember a story of how a friend who is a good athlete told about he and three others participated in a federal government 4x100 athletic competition, they came first at the end and were issued an equivalent of $2 to share as their price money.
 It sounded very ridiculous for the government to issue such an amount, i am very certain that the officials involved has pinched out percentages from the money, and unfortunately, that was what was left. This is also corruption.

It's not broad term, any kind of abuse in power is already a corruption, it's not a broad term but it's more like it can define a lot of activities rather than the other way around. You're friends, I feel bad for what they've experienced but they could've been able to appeal it if there's a rule book that states their prizes when they win.

Agreed, anyone that is at the top of a hierarchy and then decides to take decisions that he knows are going to benefit himself is committing an act of corruption, but there are some countries where this is so common that it also gets to the sport world.

For example it is very common in many countries that soccer players actually need to pay money to move up the ladder and become professional, this does not make sense, as a young and good player should be given priority as not only will benefit the team and they could sell his rights for a high price, but those dealing with those players do not care about it and are only looking for their own personal benefit.

[boyptc]

They can.

It's for sure that they're in full control of everything that lies with the whole management whether it be the sports commission/agency or the athlete/talent pool management.

As for the dirty games involving in sports, it's also happening but we'll never know when and what game.

Although we may think that it's already rampant, but without evidence or people getting jailed, we can't prove that and the majority will still trust them. The problem is, if one will get caught rigging, the league or a certain sport might just hide the incident as it would potentially result in damage to the entire reputation of the league.

Yeah.

The sad part is if you accuse them and you have no proof and you've named names, you're likely the one that will be accused of false accusation.

But we all knew that there's really something behind that happens such as corruption but yeah, hard to prove that if you have no black and white proof.

[Lanatsa]

They can.

It's for sure that they're in full control of everything that lies with the whole management whether it be the sports commission/agency or the athlete/talent pool management.

As for the dirty games involving in sports, it's also happening but we'll never know when and what game.

Although we may think that it's already rampant, but without evidence or people getting jailed, we can't prove that and the majority will still trust them. The problem is, if one will get caught rigging, the league or a certain sport might just hide the incident as it would potentially result in damage to the entire reputation of the league.

Yeah.

The sad part is if you accuse them and you have no proof and you've named names, you're likely the one that will be accused of false accusation.

But we all knew that there's really something behind that happens such as corruption but yeah, hard to prove that if you have no black and white proof.

This is why as a normal citizen you would really be ending up on just dealing with the reality even if you do know that theres something behind then but still you cant do anything about it because providing

proofs wouldn't really be that easy nor not even possible and it is somewhat risky if ever there would be some reverse or counter which would really be putting you into big trouble.

Corruption is a global problem which cant really be resolved, it doesn't matter on what industry it do belongs but it would always be present.

[Rengga Jati]

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Corruption is a global problem which cant really be resolved, it doesn't matter on what industry it do belongs but it would always be present.

Because it is about money and power. Money is something very sweet, tempting, and can even make us forget good and bad things.
In terms of corruption, it is true, this is really like it can't be destroyed, in any field. Even there is happening on the athletes, institutions, clubs, and so on. More if this has been like being a habit.
We cannot stop it 100%.

[iTradeChips]

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Corruption is a global problem which cant really be resolved, it doesn't matter on what industry it do belongs but it would always be present.

Because it is about money and power. Money is something very sweet, tempting, and can even make us forget good and bad things.
In terms of corruption, it is true, this is really like it can't be destroyed, in any field. Even there is happening on the athletes, institutions, clubs, and so on. More if this has been like being a habit.
We cannot stop it 100%.

Come think about it, who does not want money? Who does not want power? Well I think this corruption issues with sports has been with us for such a long time now. Like I mentioned before there must be syndicates who control these things and there is nothing to stop them from doing their evil deeds. Maybe the only way to stop them is to revamp the sports system altogether, revamp and put new people in or let them know that the government or the regulatory body is watching - unless they are also part of the system.

[Fredomago]

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Corruption is a global problem which cant really be resolved, it doesn't matter on what industry it do belongs but it would always be present.

Because it is about money and power. Money is something very sweet, tempting, and can even make us forget good and bad things.
In terms of corruption, it is true, this is really like it can't be destroyed, in any field. Even there is happening on the athletes, institutions, clubs, and so on. More if this has been like being a habit.
We cannot stop it 100%.

Money works all the time, and it's true that in every places corruptions are present not only with the government but there are many institutions where corruptions are dominating.

It's something that stuck and really hard to remove. Maybe in some little ways it can lessen this practice or maybe can completely remove if the govern bodies are all influenced by good leadership. (Maybe )

But moving back to the topic. Corruption in sport is very likely influenced by huge amount of money that circulating inside the club where everyone who are involve can't resist but just follow the flow.

[KTChampions]

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But moving back to the topic. Corruption in sport is very likely influenced by huge amount of money that circulating inside the club where everyone who are involve can't resist but just follow the flow.

And how do you imagine these cash flows? Would even the average athlete (who clearly does not need money like the average person) risk his career to make some extra money? For some reason it seems irrational to me. Even having received this dirty money, you still need to somehow legalize it ... in general, more trouble and risks than profit.

[boyptc]

Yeah.

The sad part is if you accuse them and you have no proof and you've named names, you're likely the one that will be accused of false accusation.

But we all knew that there's really something behind that happens such as corruption but yeah, hard to prove that if you have no black and white proof.

This is why as a normal citizen you would really be ending up on just dealing with the reality even if you do know that theres something behind then but still you cant do anything about it because providing

proofs wouldn't really be that easy nor not even possible and it is somewhat risky if ever there would be some reverse or counter which would really be putting you into big trouble.

Corruption is a global problem which cant really be resolved, it doesn't matter on what industry it do belongs but it would always be present.

We have no choice.

Yeah, sad reality but we have to bear it as that is how the system works even if you're aware that there's something shady that happens.

But you're not in the position to attest whatever is shady there unless you have proof or you're too big to face these people behind any anomaly.

[7788bitcoin]

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As far as I know, the only working way (at least from the bookmaker's side) is to look at the volume of bets. If the volume is sharply higher than the average for a regular match (we exclude top events), then such a match is often considered suspicious and bets are returned to all those who have already made them.

Have you came across that scenario where the bets you made were voided. I got bets getting voided but usually those are issues with the bookmaker and not because of manipulation and leaked outcomes. Even if there is corruption in sport you wont be knowing about it until years when there is an investigation that exposes them and by that time nothing changes in the bets you made.

[TimeTeller]

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As far as I know, the only working way (at least from the bookmaker's side) is to look at the volume of bets. If the volume is sharply higher than the average for a regular match (we exclude top events), then such a match is often considered suspicious and bets are returned to all those who have already made them.

Have you came across that scenario where the bets you made were voided. I got bets getting voided but usually those are issues with the bookmaker and not because of manipulation and leaked outcomes. Even if there is corruption in sport you wont be knowing about it until years when there is an investigation that exposes them and by that time nothing changes in the bets you made.

I have had some bets voided but it is not because of the bookmaker but because of the game itself.
Anyway, corruption is everywhere and sports is not excluded in this human behavior.
This is true, situations involving corruption of officials will only come to light years later, once somebody brought it to public.
But you can't do anything much when that happens because it was already over, and you can't do anything much about it but accept.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

In terms of corruption, it is true, this is really like it can't be destroyed, in any field. Even there is happening on the athletes, institutions, clubs, and so on. More if this has been like being a habit. We cannot stop it 100%.

yes, surely everyone seems to be against corruption because it steals and violates the rights of others, especially for the sports industry which has a large scope. and even defrauding athletes, sponsors, governments for personal gain I think that's a very evil thing. what else is done by people or groups who are already very rich.

[KingsDen]

In my country every government during the election campaign have the statement we'll abolish corruption on the sports in the manifesto. Is this is common or I'm seeing this on my country. In each and every game, during the selection process bribe is being given. This has made several able sportsmen discontinue their passion on sports and do some routine job for their living.

Same as this is the gambling, more key players are involved with match fixing even after getting huge sum of money after every match winning/losing. Why certain sportsmen have such greed towards money when people are starving to have a single meal on a day.

There exist what you may call corruption in almost every profession. You cannot see an ideal profession. However, it is moderated. Some do theirs ethically and organised, then they will appear appear as saints.
Sports itself is a Business and Politics . If these two are not handled well, sports will lose it's savour. Business is to make profits why politics is to influence decisions in your favour. So, we should not expect a Saint from the union of the above two.

[tabas]

yes, surely everyone seems to be against corruption because it steals and violates the rights of others, especially for the sports industry which has a large scope. and even defrauding athletes, sponsors, governments for personal gain I think that's a very evil thing. what else is done by people or groups who are already very rich.

We're all against corruption especially if it's with our favorite team and sports. But those groups are rich enough and untouchable. They really are hard to be caught.
Those corrupt people that are keep doing it under the sports management, they really don't think of anything but only wants to gain for themselves.

[rodskee]

While there are this principle of sportmanship in our system... There are these people who only thinks of this entertainment as business, and business is business. Although there are clean businesses out there, that latter part are still in action, especially when gambling takes place. Money is money for this people and it is obvious that they will do anything to have this money.

sports nowadays is mostly consider already as business or profiteering and the essence of the sporting or the enjoyment of the game is not there, officials and even players are acting for the sake of one thing and that is MONEY and not to totally entertain the viewers or bring joy to the fans.
this same reason why sports nowadays are losing supporters and people are now turning into total gambling and not just because they love the sports but how much they can make money.
and in this same reason why corruption is taking part because there are big amount involves in this area, and we cannot change that now.