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April 30, 2021, 01:24:40 PM
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You can differentiate between a strategic based type of game to a pure luck based ones which you can eventually tell based up on experience on what
are the probabilities for you to win a certain game.If you do have enough knowledge and awareness then you can point out which one would really be good
if you do really mind of making profits and its up to you when making out decisions neither you do get out when in profits or simply proceed if you do
tend to play for more.Self control is always been on question.
Maybe if he has a skill in a gambling game-based strategy, he will have a chance to win. But if he wants to play gambling games based on pure luck, he only plays to search for fun things and not test his luck. A gambler will know what gambling games that he can play and hopefully, they will know that gambling games are designed to give entertainment and fun instead of making money. Besides that, a gambler should have self-control in a gambling game to prevent loss.

Maintaining self-control in gambling is hard, everything could trip out when you lost your cool after losing a big amount of bet, because frustration will overpower your self-control. So self-control is no longer existing in gambling, you just have to be decisive and dedicated on what to do next after a huge loss. You don't need second thoughts, you need an instant solid decision to cut yourself out in gambling while you're frustrated, because you can't be playing gambling while frustrated at the same time.
That will happen when you want to get more winning after the last winning and do not decide to stop playing. That is normal to see your greed become bigger after you won some money but if you can not control your mind, I am afraid that will make you continue playing and you will lose your money. Self-control must stay for yourself to control yourself to stop gambling, no matter if you win or lose, because that is the important thing that you must do. Forget it about recover your loss or wanting for the next winning because you can get it in the next few days. Besides that, you must reduce your tension after playing gambling for some rounds.

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April 30, 2021, 04:15:48 PM
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Sometimes it is just fate. Poker is a good example. When you have 10 show downs in a row and are an 80:20 favorite ever single time but you lose it all, that's fate in my opinion. Even if you control yourself and keep playing a solid style, there is not much you can do. Luck is against you, which I would say equates to fate.
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April 30, 2021, 04:29:53 PM
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Sometimes it is just fate. Poker is a good example. When you have 10 show downs in a row and are an 80:20 favorite ever single time but you lose it all, that's fate in my opinion. Even if you control yourself and keep playing a solid style, there is not much you can do. Luck is against you, which I would say equates to fate.

Fate doesn't exist, much less in poker. What you call Fate is pure variability of short term results, but a winning poker player even though he has those unfavorable short term results, because he makes EV+ moves, or moves that are profitable in the long run.



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April 30, 2021, 04:49:13 PM
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Sometimes it is just fate. Poker is a good example. When you have 10 show downs in a row and are an 80:20 favorite ever single time but you lose it all, that's fate in my opinion. Even if you control yourself and keep playing a solid style, there is not much you can do. Luck is against you, which I would say equates to fate.

Fate doesn't exist, much less in poker. What you call Fate is pure variability of short term results, but a winning poker player even though he has those unfavorable short term results, because he makes EV+ moves, or moves that are profitable in the long run.



After all, what is meant by self-control means that you can just get out of the game when you win, if you continue to play without control then you are greedy and defeat will obviously be experienced and that is not fate. Because that way we can always control fate if you have control over yourself, try gambling with something that you can control and not you who are controlled by gambling.
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April 30, 2021, 06:54:35 PM
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Sometimes it is just fate. Poker is a good example. When you have 10 show downs in a row and are an 80:20 favorite ever single time but you lose it all, that's fate in my opinion. Even if you control yourself and keep playing a solid style, there is not much you can do. Luck is against you, which I would say equates to fate.

Fate doesn't exist, much less in poker. What you call Fate is pure variability of short term results, but a winning poker player even though he has those unfavorable short term results, because he makes EV+ moves, or moves that are profitable in the long run.



After all, what is meant by self-control means that you can just get out of the game when you win, if you continue to play without control then you are greedy and defeat will obviously be experienced and that is not fate. Because that way we can always control fate if you have control over yourself, try gambling with something that you can control and not you who are controlled by gambling.

It's perfect when you practice this kind of control, quitting after winning something or quitting before you lose everything inside your bankroll, most gamblers continue to play even they'll already  exceeded with their limitations.

Greed is the number one factor that affects each gamblers, it's not fate but it's your self-will to manage yourself and your emotiond towards this activities.

You've got some good advantage if you know how to work with your emotions.

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April 30, 2021, 07:31:04 PM
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Gambling usually involves a lot of damage on one's own and in dealing with the situation. Even if a loss it is foolish to give up and lose everything profits and losses for the game will be higher if the risk is high it helps to learn something new and it becomes easier to know the next step of the game so gambling has to be played and enjoyed as a means of entertainment. You need to apply your skills and learn to take breaks when the risk is high in the midst of all adversity if the trader the participating gambler is respectful of the rules he can run the casino business profitably.
It is not gambling that made the damage but the gambler that decides for their future .

so never blame gambling for what you will become because this is just s game and a Human is having the decisions .
Those who don't see the gambling as an entertainment will be victims of damage which we can't argue but self control in gambling is the best of all that gamblers should imbibe. Basically those who are destitute in gambling are those without self control, sometimes when they run at loss they blame it on fate which isn't true. Sometimes some do win big before they start to experience the loss.

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April 30, 2021, 08:15:09 PM
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Gambling usually involves a lot of damage on one's own and in dealing with the situation. Even if a loss it is foolish to give up and lose everything profits and losses for the game will be higher if the risk is high it helps to learn something new and it becomes easier to know the next step of the game so gambling has to be played and enjoyed as a means of entertainment. You need to apply your skills and learn to take breaks when the risk is high in the midst of all adversity if the trader the participating gambler is respectful of the rules he can run the casino business profitably.
It is not gambling that made the damage but the gambler that decides for their future .

so never blame gambling for what you will become because this is just s game and a Human is having the decisions .
Those who don't see the gambling as an entertainment will be victims of damage which we can't argue but self control in gambling is the best of all that gamblers should imbibe. Basically those who are destitute in gambling are those without self control, sometimes when they run at loss they blame it on fate which isn't true. Sometimes some do win big before they start to experience the loss.
What you've mentioned in the post is the reality with the gamblers. At the same time there are people who have turned to be addicted gamblers considering gambling as an entertainment. They start as entertainment, in between they have a transition why don't we give a try. Gives a try and wins, this win makes them continue to gamble. In the meantime losing happens and to recover they keep on gambling. Here we can't term anyone to be wrong, but he could've considered something else for entertainment and not gambling.
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April 30, 2021, 09:09:24 PM
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Gambling usually involves a lot of damage on one's own and in dealing with the situation. Even if a loss it is foolish to give up and lose everything profits and losses for the game will be higher if the risk is high it helps to learn something new and it becomes easier to know the next step of the game so gambling has to be played and enjoyed as a means of entertainment. You need to apply your skills and learn to take breaks when the risk is high in the midst of all adversity if the trader the participating gambler is respectful of the rules he can run the casino business profitably.
It is not gambling that made the damage but the gambler that decides for their future .

so never blame gambling for what you will become because this is just s game and a Human is having the decisions .
Those who don't see the gambling as an entertainment will be victims of damage which we can't argue but self control in gambling is the best of all that gamblers should imbibe. Basically those who are destitute in gambling are those without self control, sometimes when they run at loss they blame it on fate which isn't true. Sometimes some do win big before they start to experience the loss.
Gambling serves as an entertainment to those who has no means of earning their way using gambling. If someone has an intention by being rich through the use of gambling then they may the one who will take the most damage emotionally and financially.

A common experience which most of us have experience is being able to earn and win before starting to loss which trigger us to gamble more and more as we've already experience winning. We even loss control and disregard all the rules we've implemented before gambling because of this.

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May 01, 2021, 07:51:56 AM
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Totally agree,fate just a excuse for us to console ourselves,the reason is lack of control,if you keep gambling without control,might be you could win one or twice,but you would lose finally. This is a normal phenomenon for a gambler.
Gamling just for fun,not for life.
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May 01, 2021, 08:51:28 AM
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Totally agree,fate just a excuse for us to console ourselves,the reason is lack of control,if you keep gambling without control,might be you could win one or twice,but you would lose finally. This is a normal phenomenon for a gambler.
Gamling just for fun,not for life.
It's about the intent that you have when starting. Do you playing for fun / for getting entertained or to get your daily dose of gambling addiction? Take it as entertainment that pays sometimes for playing, and the full control will be in your hands.

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May 01, 2021, 09:16:48 AM
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Totally agree,fate just a excuse for us to console ourselves,the reason is lack of control,if you keep gambling without control,might be you could win one or twice,but you would lose finally. This is a normal phenomenon for a gambler.
Gamling just for fun,not for life.

Unfortunately there are still many gamblers who believe gambling can be a source of income, because some people believe that they can get big
profits if they play gambling using the right strategy. Even though there is no strategy that can beat the casino, if we ever win in large numbers
when playing gambling, it is purely because of luck. Because if we continue playing, we will definitely lose in the end. So it is better to make
gambling just for fun, and we don't lose in large numbers when playing gambling for reasons of fate, it's just that we really lack control when
playing gambling. If we can control ourselves when playing gambling, we can determine when to stop gambling and avoid addiction.

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May 01, 2021, 09:45:45 AM
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Some used to pacify themselves with the term it is their fate to loss in gambling. Some say it is the lack of control that makes them loss big. Here I'm taking this into discussion relative to the game - Dice.
In a game of chance and one is well aware that the house always wins I will go with fate! I was going to say lack of control only when you won a number of hands and never stopped but chose to play on which should be said is greed.

Same as this some used to mention winning as fate and some term the same as luck. I believe win out of dice is trick, and right exit strategy.
If your winnings are consistent that's purely skill not luck neither is it fate, and in a game that can be manipulated I don't see how fate comes in to be honest..



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May 01, 2021, 10:54:17 AM
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Sometimes it is just fate. Poker is a good example. When you have 10 show downs in a row and are an 80:20 favorite ever single time but you lose it all, that's fate in my opinion. Even if you control yourself and keep playing a solid style, there is not much you can do. Luck is against you, which I would say equates to fate.

I disagree.

Poker is all about skills, mostly in bluff and counting the cards using probability to guess what your opponents has.  Fate and luck doesn't equates at all, they are entirely different. If you lose in poker just because of bluffs, it means that you lack in guts and doesn't trust your intuition, luck is already helping you to win but it is you who is rejecting it.
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May 01, 2021, 11:27:57 AM
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Totally agree,fate just a excuse for us to console ourselves,the reason is lack of control,if you keep gambling without control,might be you could win one or twice,but you would lose finally. This is a normal phenomenon for a gambler.
Gamling just for fun,not for life.
It's about the intent that you have when starting. Do you playing for fun / for getting entertained or to get your daily dose of gambling addiction? Take it as entertainment that pays sometimes for playing, and the full control will be in your hands.
Maybe we can say that playing gambling is just for fun or entertainment, but as time goes, our reason for playing gambling can change. And once we see that we can win for some time, we will try to use gambling to make money. We will use more money to make money but the fact is we never make that money instead, we just lose more money.

Gambling is a way to get fun, whether we play alone or with friends so we need to have control in gambling. Otherwise, we will lose too much money without we realize.
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May 01, 2021, 01:43:39 PM
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Totally agree,fate just a excuse for us to console ourselves,the reason is lack of control,if you keep gambling without control,might be you could win one or twice,but you would lose finally. This is a normal phenomenon for a gambler.
Gamling just for fun,not for life.
It's about the intent that you have when starting. Do you playing for fun / for getting entertained or to get your daily dose of gambling addiction? Take it as entertainment that pays sometimes for playing, and the full control will be in your hands.
Maybe we can say that playing gambling is just for fun or entertainment, but as time goes, our reason for playing gambling can change. And once we see that we can win for some time, we will try to use gambling to make money. We will use more money to make money but the fact is we never make that money instead, we just lose more money.

Gambling is a way to get fun, whether we play alone or with friends so we need to have control in gambling. Otherwise, we will lose too much money without we realize.
This style of entertainment increases the euphoria too much after each participation, the feelings of victory and defeat are the special spices of gambling, these spices seem to make us drop our selves, sobering then quarantine is okay but feeling these spices every day will easily be fascinated and become an addicting puppet. Again, vigilance and control are a matter of special attention and priority but the fact that when they fail is that many people deny responsibility and force fate to take on everything, they feel they are not at fault.

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May 01, 2021, 02:21:35 PM
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Totally agree,fate just a excuse for us to console ourselves,the reason is lack of control,if you keep gambling without control,might be you could win one or twice,but you would lose finally. This is a normal phenomenon for a gambler.
Gamling just for fun,not for life.

Unfortunately there are still many gamblers who believe gambling can be a source of income, because some people believe that they can get big
profits if they play gambling using the right strategy. Even though there is no strategy that can beat the casino, if we ever win in large numbers
when playing gambling, it is purely because of luck. Because if we continue playing, we will definitely lose in the end. So it is better to make
gambling just for fun, and we don't lose in large numbers when playing gambling for reasons of fate, it's just that we really lack control when
playing gambling. If we can control ourselves when playing gambling, we can determine when to stop gambling and avoid addiction.

I do think that many gamblers are aware of the odds and that the casino has an edge over them. But where else can we have these kind of chances to make a profit? So if we play dice and do 50/50 bets, sure the chance of winning is not exactly 50%, but more 48-49.5%. These are pretty good in my opinion, because we can work with them. We know before hand of our chances and can bet accordingly. If we trade on the stock market for example, we don't know the our odds. We might thing we are having a great deal but it could be that our chances of making money are only 30%. Same goes for the payoff, we never know how high a stock is going to rise. 
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May 01, 2021, 02:50:04 PM
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Maybe we can say that playing gambling is just for fun or entertainment, but as time goes, our reason for playing gambling can change.
Very true, along the way this perceptions change up, we see ourselves playing more and trying different strategy but not to enjoy but to win real money.
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And once we see that we can win for some time, we will try to use gambling to make money. We will use more money to make money but the fact is we never make that money instead, we just lose more money.
The taste of winning decent amount of money pushed us to continue and try to chase more, the problem after that is we will deposit more than what we previously allocate for this activities.
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Gambling is a way to get fun, whether we play alone or with friends so we need to have control in gambling. Otherwise, we will lose too much money without we realize.
Afterwards, you'll find yourself regretting because of losing so much fund due to uncareful gambling activities.
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May 01, 2021, 03:35:26 PM
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Totally agree,fate just a excuse for us to console ourselves,the reason is lack of control,if you keep gambling without control,might be you could win one or twice,but you would lose finally. This is a normal phenomenon for a gambler. ~
Fate is the thing which helps us to get the wins but having control is important as well. People also makes profit by betting crazily or with rage bets, fate is the main key on those times. Though in the end gambler loss all of it for not having control. Both are necessary for a gambler to maintain profit in the long term. Fate comes from itself, so we should practice for having a proper control over our gambling habit.

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May 01, 2021, 03:57:15 PM
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I do think that many gamblers are aware of the odds and that the casino has an edge over them. But where else can we have these kind of chances to make a profit? So if we play dice and do 50/50 bets, sure the chance of winning is not exactly 50%, but more 48-49.5%. These are pretty good in my opinion, because we can work with them. We know before hand of our chances and can bet accordingly. If we trade on the stock market for example, we don't know the our odds. We might thing we are having a great deal but it could be that our chances of making money are only 30%. Same goes for the payoff, we never know how high a stock is going to rise. 

As for the stock market, there are scientific studies (they are possible since the entire trading history is available) that show that shorting on average is unprofitable and buying is profitable. It is unlikely that this has serious weight in each individual situation, but the general state of affairs is obvious. While in gambling, your chances of winning are always negative.

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Totally agree,fate just a excuse for us to console ourselves,the reason is lack of control,if you keep gambling without control,might be you could win one or twice,but you would lose finally. This is a normal phenomenon for a gambler.
Gamling just for fun,not for life.
It's about the intent that you have when starting. Do you playing for fun / for getting entertained or to get your daily dose of gambling addiction? Take it as entertainment that pays sometimes for playing, and the full control will be in your hands.
If you take gambling "as an entertainment that pays sometimes for playing" then there won't be anything like self control on the long run becasue we are humans and our wants can't be satisfy. How does gambling addiction grow?  Gambling addiction gradually set in through the means of - let me make something small for myself today and tomorrow something bigger till such a gambler become a victim of addiction. So, i will rather said - take gambling as an entertainment to ease out stress -.

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