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October 01, 2021, 09:36:44 PM
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People are throwing shade at FIA for picking Qatar. I do not know where you are from, but from a foreigner that is looking outside in, Qatar looks like a horrible place to do this, and a horrible place in general. It is said that thousands of people died while working in inhumane conditions for world cup, they are basically using slave workshops that pays just enough to eat for a meal, thousands of people literally dead because of their working conditions. Certainly it may have been swept under rug but even world cup was in danger of getting cancelled before everyone assured nothing bad would happen.

It just feels like that time when Hitler and Nazis organized Olympics, he was a bad person at the time as well and we just didn't know it fully yet, and they had Olympics, where the whole world saw how everything was "alright" there, and then we know what happened. FIA should have considered this move as dangerous from the start.

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October 02, 2021, 10:06:02 AM
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People are throwing shade at FIA for picking Qatar. I do not know where you are from, but from a foreigner that is looking outside in, Qatar looks like a horrible place to do this, and a horrible place in general. It is said that thousands of people died while working in inhumane conditions for world cup, they are basically using slave workshops that pays just enough to eat for a meal, thousands of people literally dead because of their working conditions. Certainly it may have been swept under rug but even world cup was in danger of getting cancelled before everyone assured nothing bad would happen.

It just feels like that time when Hitler and Nazis organized Olympics, he was a bad person at the time as well and we just didn't know it fully yet, and they had Olympics, where the whole world saw how everything was "alright" there, and then we know what happened. FIA should have considered this move as dangerous from the start.
It's been like that for ages. They are hosting so politics should be kept out of the race.
You could say the same for russia and the way they run things, but everyone has their own point of view.
So let's keep it to racing. Okay? Smiley

Dubai is hosting expo 2020 which was held back a year. They are quite similar how they host events with Qatar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb5m8nT7meo

They also have human rights issues there: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/1/hrw-dubai-expo-2020-attempt-to-shield-uae-rights-abuses
This is just how things are in certain countries and how it has always been.

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October 02, 2021, 06:00:38 PM
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People are throwing shade at FIA for picking Qatar. I do not know where you are from, but from a foreigner that is looking outside in, Qatar looks like a horrible place to do this, and a horrible place in general. It is said that thousands of people died while working in inhumane conditions for world cup, they are basically using slave workshops that pays just enough to eat for a meal, thousands of people literally dead because of their working conditions. Certainly it may have been swept under rug but even world cup was in danger of getting cancelled before everyone assured nothing bad would happen.
It just feels like that time when Hitler and Nazis organized Olympics, he was a bad person at the time as well and we just didn't know it fully yet, and they had Olympics, where the whole world saw how everything was "alright" there, and then we know what happened. FIA should have considered this move as dangerous from the start.

Every country has its own problems and we alone cannot do shit about that. What about the stuff going on in North Korea? Or what about the USA doing things in the Middle East? If we were to judge the politics, there would be a never-ending list out there. So how about we skip the other stuff and focus on the racing itself? Maybe talk about the goods and bad over the tracks and weather conditions and so on?

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October 02, 2021, 06:08:58 PM
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People are throwing shade at FIA for picking Qatar. I do not know where you are from, but from a foreigner that is looking outside in, Qatar looks like a horrible place to do this, and a horrible place in general. It is said that thousands of people died while working in inhumane conditions for world cup, they are basically using slave workshops that pays just enough to eat for a meal, thousands of people literally dead because of their working conditions. Certainly it may have been swept under rug but even world cup was in danger of getting cancelled before everyone assured nothing bad would happen.

It just feels like that time when Hitler and Nazis organized Olympics, he was a bad person at the time as well and we just didn't know it fully yet, and they had Olympics, where the whole world saw how everything was "alright" there, and then we know what happened. FIA should have considered this move as dangerous from the start.

Ohh, this is one aspect that racing should avoid especially when politics is involved. Despite the proven working conditions where lots of people suffered during the process, the government or certain people should be responsible. But the race itself cannot be cancelled due to the fault of others.

Like what some have mentioned, racing should only focus on racing. No matter what the circumstances may be, politics should be avoided as they do not involve the racers at all.

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October 02, 2021, 06:10:00 PM
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People are throwing shade at FIA for picking Qatar. I do not know where you are from, but from a foreigner that is looking outside in, Qatar looks like a horrible place to do this, and a horrible place in general. It is said that thousands of people died while working in inhumane conditions for world cup, they are basically using slave workshops that pays just enough to eat for a meal, thousands of people literally dead because of their working conditions. Certainly it may have been swept under rug but even world cup was in danger of getting cancelled before everyone assured nothing bad would happen.
It just feels like that time when Hitler and Nazis organized Olympics, he was a bad person at the time as well and we just didn't know it fully yet, and they had Olympics, where the whole world saw how everything was "alright" there, and then we know what happened. FIA should have considered this move as dangerous from the start.
It's been like that for ages. They are hosting so politics should be kept out of the race.
You could say the same for russia and the way they run things, but everyone has their own point of view.
So let's keep it to racing. Okay? Smiley
Dubai is hosting expo 2020 which was held back a year. They are quite similar how they host events with Qatar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb5m8nT7meo
They also have human rights issues there: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/1/hrw-dubai-expo-2020-attempt-to-shield-uae-rights-abuses
This is just how things are in certain countries and how it has always been.

Yes, exactly I agree with you. Every country has got its own problems. And If we were to mix racing with politics, that won't be the best of ideas. So maybe only keep it focused on racing only. I haven't seen the tracks in Qatar, but I'm hoping that we should be getting good tracks considering the amount of budget Qatar has for such stuff.

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October 02, 2021, 07:14:20 PM
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Yes, exactly I agree with you. Every country has got its own problems. And If we were to mix racing with politics, that won't be the best of ideas. So maybe only keep it focused on racing only. I haven't seen the tracks in Qatar, but I'm hoping that we should be getting good tracks considering the amount of budget Qatar has for such stuff.
And I have no doubt that they will make an excellent track.  In recent years, all new tracks are being built in an interesting but also professional way.  For example, in Russia, in addition to Sochi, another highway was built near St. Petersburg.  Soon it will be included in the racing calendar.  As for Qatar, I think that such areas with such heat even in winter, and without rain at all, are not quite a suitable place, but this is understandably the case is being lobbied by their authorities.  Well, and probably right, they also want to see royal races there, and not just camel races Smiley Grin

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October 02, 2021, 08:14:27 PM
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There were some rumours like Saudi Arabia was thinking of buying F1 completely and they were going to have more races in the region:

https://www.planetf1.com/news/saudi-arabia-linked-formula-1-takeover/

But it turns out that this was not more than just a rumour. I hope that this doesn't happen. Because I believe that this can harm F1 and the sport can lose a lot of spectators too. F1 is beautiful like this. There is not any reason to make changes like this. However, I heard that we are going to have a race in Qatar also. It has filled the space on Nov 19-21. I wonder how it will be.

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October 03, 2021, 01:57:25 PM
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Apparently Hamilton will have to take a penalty hit in the upcoming remaining races for getting a new power unit.
That is what is making RedBull feeling positive about the drivers Championship. Not only that there have been a reliability problems for the Power Units they have as the penalty that Bottas took for getting a new engine for Sochi was not just to slow down Verstappen it's because there have been an issues with the new engine that they got for him in Monza an for the time being it's unusable unless they make full analysis and see what is wrong with and is it possible to race with it again.
So if they don't find what is wrong with that power unit, getting a new one for Hamilton can be risky for him especially when we also seen the same Power Unit with Williams have issues in last race when they used a new one on latifi car and Russel also had to retire at one time earlier this season with problems with engine.
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October 03, 2021, 04:04:20 PM
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There were some rumours like Saudi Arabia was thinking of buying F1 completely and they were going to have more races in the region:
https://www.planetf1.com/news/saudi-arabia-linked-formula-1-takeover/
But it turns out that this was not more than just a rumour. I hope that this doesn't happen. Because I believe that this can harm F1 and the sport can lose a lot of spectators too. F1 is beautiful like this. There is not any reason to make changes like this. However, I heard that we are going to have a race in Qatar also. It has filled the space on Nov 19-21. I wonder how it will be.

I got mixed feelings about this rumor. Is Saudi Arabia buying the whole F1? They do have the budget for that though. I'm actually very excited about the race in Qatar. I heard that it would be held in 2023 after the FIFA World Cup in 2022. The tracks should be very good I'm hoping. But I don't like drastic changes in the upper positions. Because of the way F1 is right now, I kind of like it. Maybe Saudi Arabia might be able to offer more or fund more but I still like the way F1 is right now. Only time will tell if the rumor turns to be true or not.

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October 03, 2021, 04:20:10 PM
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Yes, exactly I agree with you. Every country has got its own problems. And If we were to mix racing with politics, that won't be the best of ideas. So maybe only keep it focused on racing only. I haven't seen the tracks in Qatar, but I'm hoping that we should be getting good tracks considering the amount of budget Qatar has for such stuff.
And I have no doubt that they will make an excellent track.  In recent years, all new tracks are being built in an interesting but also professional way.  For example, in Russia, in addition to Sochi, another highway was built near St. Petersburg.  Soon it will be included in the racing calendar.  As for Qatar, I think that such areas with such heat even in winter, and without rain at all, are not quite a suitable place, but this is understandably the case is being lobbied by their authorities.  Well, and probably right, they also want to see royal races there, and not just camel races Smiley Grin

Yes, I also think that the recent tracks made were very good. They are made very professionally and keeping the racers in mind. So I'm very optimistic about the tracks in Qatar. And we all know that Qatar can invest a huge lot into these things, so can surely hope for the investment into the tracks and organizing is a lot, maybe more compared to other countries. Let's just hope we get a nice track and great show of race.

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October 04, 2021, 10:37:42 PM
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Yes, exactly I agree with you. Every country has got its own problems. And If we were to mix racing with politics, that won't be the best of ideas. So maybe only keep it focused on racing only. I haven't seen the tracks in Qatar, but I'm hoping that we should be getting good tracks considering the amount of budget Qatar has for such stuff.
And I have no doubt that they will make an excellent track.  In recent years, all new tracks are being built in an interesting but also professional way.  For example, in Russia, in addition to Sochi, another highway was built near St. Petersburg.  Soon it will be included in the racing calendar.  As for Qatar, I think that such areas with such heat even in winter, and without rain at all, are not quite a suitable place, but this is understandably the case is being lobbied by their authorities.  Well, and probably right, they also want to see royal races there, and not just camel races Smiley Grin
Yes, I also think that the recent tracks made were very good. They are made very professionally and keeping the racers in mind. So I'm very optimistic about the tracks in Qatar. And we all know that Qatar can invest a huge lot into these things, so can surely hope for the investment into the tracks and organizing is a lot, maybe more compared to other countries. Let's just hope we get a nice track and great show of race.
I do like the design they have in Doha. And I can't see why not since it is a major city within Qatar. But it will be at Losail International Circuit which is 22 miles away from this major city.

There were some rumours like Saudi Arabia was thinking of buying F1 completely and they were going to have more races in the region:
https://www.planetf1.com/news/saudi-arabia-linked-formula-1-takeover/
But it turns out that this was not more than just a rumour. I hope that this doesn't happen. Because I believe that this can harm F1 and the sport can lose a lot of spectators too. F1 is beautiful like this. There is not any reason to make changes like this. However, I heard that we are going to have a race in Qatar also. It has filled the space on Nov 19-21. I wonder how it will be.
Them owning the entire F1 is nearly impossible. FIA has rules put in place so it can't be under one. Just like in the soccer league.
It just goes to show you how far oil riches can go. Even if it was just a rumor. Cheesy

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October 05, 2021, 05:54:33 AM
Last edit: October 06, 2021, 01:32:00 PM by rdbase
 #492

The Turkish grand prix is coming up this weekend and it should be another exciting one in Istanbul park.

From the early set of odds for the final race it looks as Max is the favorite to win it there.

qualification: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/qualification/qualification-615ae2c80857919bb87f85ca

Top 3 and race:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/race/race-615191993b4ce89b2688ce9f

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October 05, 2021, 06:17:13 PM
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F1 is trying to create a new generation of power units by the year 2025 and wants to achieve 100% sustainable fuel for the engines so that they can hit net zero Carbon usage by 2030. That is a very good initiative in my opinion. Because of these races, a huge amount of fuel is needed for the cars so if they are able to make the fuel 100%  sustainable, that would be great. Although in 2022 the cars will have fuel consisting of 10% ethanol and 90% fossil fuel.



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If I can remember correctly they want to use synthetic fuel.
They are studying it and producing it in some parts of the world but it already seems a dead way to go.

The near future is electric all the big manufacturers are going in this direction.

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The Turkish grand prix is coming up this weekend and it should be another exciting one in Istanbul park.

From the early set of odds for the final race it looks as Max is the favorite to win it there.
Here are the top 3 and race:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/race/race-615191993b4ce89b2688ce9f
They say the change dtge surface for the Turkish GP and it's not as slippery as it was like last year race.
But we could see raining this time also so things can be very interesting for this race.
Max is favorite to win could be for the reason that he has a brand new power Unit and for Hamilton he still running on a high mileage one that can fail him at any point of the GP.
Despite that Hamilton was last year winner while Verstappen was not near the podium I think he was 6th despite being qualified 2nd.
So unless we have a surprise I think Hamilton is more favourite to win this time.
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October 06, 2021, 05:30:01 PM
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If I can remember correctly they want to use synthetic fuel.
They are studying it and producing it in some parts of the world but it already seems a dead way to go.

The near future is electric all the big manufacturers are going in this direction.

Electric cars also could be a viable option considering the fact that many manufacturers already are accustomed to making electric cars. But why aren't they already implementing the electric car idea right now? I mean it is proved to be more efficient than fuel powered cars right? Also almost no harm to the environment? Or am I missing something?



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October 06, 2021, 05:54:42 PM
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The Turkish GP is closing and there are only two days left for the first session to start. I'm expecting this race to be something special as it is one of the good tracks on the calendar. And they said that the track condition wouldn't be too slippery this time. Because they are taking care of it to prevent it from turning into the condition in last year's race. But there is an expectation of rain which might make things really interesting. The rain is always good for the spectators but might be a serious problem for the drivers in general. And we know how great Hamilton is when it comes to rainy days. I can't wait to watch the race!  Cheesy

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October 07, 2021, 03:50:14 AM
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Max had a very very horrible start last year, that greenlight release was one of the worst I have ever seen from him but I understand, because even though he is a great racer and a brave one, the experience is still coming in and he had no idea how to race in a very slippery smooth track.

I believe he will be doing a lot better this year, there will probably not be the same problems and Max is just a genius when it comes to challenging others to crash into him, in a rainy track with slippage problems others will be a lot more careful than Max will be which will give him either a crash if anyone takes up the offer like Lewis does, or just a very nice race for him where everyone is afraid of crashing and he wouldn't be.

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If I can remember correctly they want to use synthetic fuel.
They are studying it and producing it in some parts of the world but it already seems a dead way to go.

The near future is electric all the big manufacturers are going in this direction.

Electric cars also could be a viable option considering the fact that many manufacturers already are accustomed to making electric cars. But why aren't they already implementing the electric car idea right now? I mean it is proved to be more efficient than fuel powered cars right? Also almost no harm to the environment? Or am I missing something?
I apologize for the small offtopic.  🙏
As for electric vehicles, for some reason everyone thinks that they are much more environmentally friendly than conventional cars.  But they forget that filling batteries is extremely environmentally hazardous.  Both in production and disposal.  And the environmental friendliness of electric vehicles, I think, is nothing more than a publicity stunt for electricity producers in competition with global producers of conventional fuels.  And imagine what will happen with the massive use of electric vehicles - any road transport accident with an electrolyte spill is a small environmental disaster.  
But, I apologize,

I'm also looking forward to the race in Turkey with interest and it's also very interesting what the track will be in terms of how wet it will be Huh  Or maybe it won't Huh

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October 07, 2021, 06:20:37 PM
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Max had a very very horrible start last year, that greenlight release was one of the worst I have ever seen from him but I understand, because even though he is a great racer and a brave one, the experience is still coming in and he had no idea how to race in a very slippery smooth track.
I believe he will be doing a lot better this year, there will probably not be the same problems and Max is just a genius when it comes to challenging others to crash into him, in a rainy track with slippage problems others will be a lot more careful than Max will be which will give him either a crash if anyone takes up the offer like Lewis does, or just a very nice race for him where everyone is afraid of crashing and he wouldn't be.

I love how brave and fearless Max is on the tracks and the rain came in handy for him in the very recent race where he started last grid for the new engine penalty and the rain came just before the race was about to end and that helped Max and Hamilton a huge ton and both of them finished 2nd and 1st respectively. Hoping that Max will do good in the upcoming races and so on.

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