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[motoprose]

My view on the race for silverstone that is racing for you on any track. Nascar is the same. You wonder why there are crashes on all race tracks?
For this simply reason.
All drivers want to win.
What do you think hamilton should of done?
Let him drive aggressively the way he has in all other races and let him blow by him AGAIN?!
Nahhh wayyy!
He did what was expected from him and it won him the race.
Plain and simple.
If hamilton let verstappen over take him to avoid touching wheels he would be viewed as a pussy driver and get grilled by mercedes.
Might as well even give up on the rest season and just hand this verstappen the trophy himself.

[mv1986]

My view on the race for silverstone that is racing for you on any track. Nascar is the same. You wonder why there are crashes on all race tracks?
For this simply reason.
All drivers want to win.
What do you think hamilton should of done?
Let him drive aggressively the way he has in all other races and let him blow by him AGAIN?!
Nahhh wayyy!
He did what was expected from him and it won him the race.
Plain and simple.
If hamilton let verstappen over take him to avoid touching wheels he would be viewed as a pussy driver and get grilled by mercedes.
Might as well even give up on the rest season and just hand this verstappen the trophy himself.

And how would Hamilton have been viewed if Verstappen had serious, like really serious injuries? I think there is a red line you should keep in mind for any sport. Maybe even more so in Formula 1 because an accident can potentially be deadly or change your life forever. The fact that the FIA gave Hamilton a penalty does at least prove that he was to blame. I would always prefer to win championships with my opponent also finishing the race. If he now kicks him out a second time and wins the race that would just be sad from a formula 1 fan's perspective.

And by the way the rule I provided regarding half length of the car in my former comment, that is true. Clearly Hamilton was probably not even a third with his car past Verstappen at any point in that curve.

[ILuckyGuyI]

I really enjoyed the British GP because Leclerc finally was on the podium. He was nearly winning the race too. If he was able to use the traffic effectively in the last laps, maybe he would have won. I have a big respect for Hamilton about his victory too. Because he got a 10-second penalty but still managed to make a huge comeback and won it. It was a really unfortunate weekend for Verstappen. I was actually supporting him in this race but he had a serious crash. I'm grateful that he is OK now.

I can't wait to see the Hungarian GP. I assume that Verstappen will be focused on this race much better compared to the last one. I think that he can be the winner this time if he and the team don't make a big mistake.

[SquallLeonhart]

My view on the race for silverstone that is racing for you on any track. Nascar is the same. You wonder why there are crashes on all race tracks?
For this simply reason.
All drivers want to win.
What do you think hamilton should of done?
Let him drive aggressively the way he has in all other races and let him blow by him AGAIN?!
Nahhh wayyy!
He did what was expected from him and it won him the race.
Plain and simple.
If hamilton let verstappen over take him to avoid touching wheels he would be viewed as a pussy driver and get grilled by mercedes.
Might as well even give up on the rest season and just hand this verstappen the trophy himself.

You are talking about "let him pass?" as if that was an option, he had to either let Max pass because Max had the line (which was decided by stewards, so it is already confirmed that Hamilton was wrong and he caused Max to crash, proved by the 10 second penalty) or he would just let Max crash out of the race... So you are saying that he did the right thing by letting Max get a crash and winning the race instead of just making sure nobody crashed anybody, that is just not a nice thing to do. Being a pussy doesn't mean to avoid crashes, sure be aggressive but also avoid crashes as well.

Just to give an example Max is the most aggressive racer out there, everyone says that, and at the end he has zero license points, he didn't get penalty at all this year. That should tell you the difference between an aggressive driver and a dangerous driver.

[NeuroticFish]

He did what was expected from him and it won him the race.
Plain and simple.

Actually the fact that he got a penalty for that (imho a very light one) means that he was not doing it right/correct. Plain and simple.
So no, you're not right. There are rules there and Lewis broke them. If he would have been driving - albeit aggressively, which is normal - within the rules, nobody would have been complaining.

Luckily Max seems to be fine...

[Koal-84]

He did what was expected from him and it won him the race.
Plain and simple.

Actually the fact that he got a penalty for that (imho a very light one) means that he was not doing it right/correct. Plain and simple.
So no, you're not right. There are rules there and Lewis broke them. If he would have been driving - albeit aggressively, which is normal - within the rules, nobody would have been complaining.

Luckily Max seems to be fine...

Hamilton has always been ruthless and respectless in the title fight, but after Rosberg he had no opponent left to challenge him. For me it was a racing accident but he deserved a 10 second stop and go penalty.

Look at the photo series with Rosberg in the past, he reacted recklessly most of the time, it was the same with Michael Schumacher in the past, he also "intentionally" shot down Damon Hill.

https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel-1/fotos-videos/fotostrecken/hamilton-vs-rosberg-die-crash-chronologie/nur-selten-gab-es-zwischen-teamkollegen-so-viele-kollisionen-wie-zwischen-den-mercedes-stars-hamilton-und-rosberg-die-highlights-im-krieg-der-sterne/s1/c40/d0/p1/z0/1/1449

[mv1986]

My view on the race for silverstone that is racing for you on any track. Nascar is the same. You wonder why there are crashes on all race tracks?
For this simply reason.
All drivers want to win.
What do you think hamilton should of done?
Let him drive aggressively the way he has in all other races and let him blow by him AGAIN?!
Nahhh wayyy!
He did what was expected from him and it won him the race.
Plain and simple.
If hamilton let verstappen over take him to avoid touching wheels he would be viewed as a pussy driver and get grilled by mercedes.
Might as well even give up on the rest season and just hand this verstappen the trophy himself.

You are talking about "let him pass?" as if that was an option, he had to either let Max pass because Max had the line (which was decided by stewards, so it is already confirmed that Hamilton was wrong and he caused Max to crash, proved by the 10 second penalty) or he would just let Max crash out of the race... So you are saying that he did the right thing by letting Max get a crash and winning the race instead of just making sure nobody crashed anybody, that is just not a nice thing to do. Being a pussy doesn't mean to avoid crashes, sure be aggressive but also avoid crashes as well.

Just to give an example Max is the most aggressive racer out there, everyone says that, and at the end he has zero license points, he didn't get penalty at all this year. That should tell you the difference between an aggressive driver and a dangerous driver.

Exactly my point! Everybody wants to win is no argument in favor of potentially killing someone. Also, I don't exactly know how it works when you repeatedly cause accidents that give you 10 seconds penalties, but with this little penalty in mind and the win Hamilton achieved regardless, the decision of the stewards is almost like an incentive for me to do the same again in the next race if the opportunity arises.

I mean, it's not like Verstappen crashed and could continue the race and maybe fight back and get 10 points or so as well. He is out. It is a 25 - 0 advantage for Hamilton exactly because of that accident. That is why I said it would be sad not only for the driver, but even for all those interested in the sport to perhaps see a championship be decided by a foul play. It has nothing to do with lucky, it's just unfair and takes away the real competitive thrill we are all looking for in any type of sport.

And after all, and this is what experts criticized even more about the crash, is the danger Verstappen got exposed to because that curve is the fastest on the track.

The fact that Hamilton touched him at the back wheel with his own nose clearly shows who was in front in that curve.

Let's hope for some fair races and a close finish in the end!

[rdbase]

Yeah with the feedback from several others on this matter with Hamilton vs Verstappen.
All that can really be concluded is:
There are clean drivers and dirty drivers.
You have to decipher which one is which in this scenario.

[rdbase]

The Hungarian race is happening this week beginning on July 30th up until August 1st for the final race.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/race/race-60f506cf513f7041636001a3

Here are the odds for the winners of the race in Hungaroring:

[mv1986]

Yeah with the feedback from several others on this matter with Hamilton vs Verstappen.
All that can really be concluded is:
There are clean drivers and dirty drivers.
You have to decipher which one is which in this scenario.

The world clean might go a bit too far here for Verstappen as well although given the statistic that was provided here before, it obviously looks like Verstappen is a clean driver as per your definition. Competing fiercely is fine, but risking someone else's life when you clearly lost a fight in a curve on the track isn't just dirty, it's absolutely irresponsible and fucked up.

[AndySt]

Yeah with the feedback from several others on this matter with Hamilton vs Verstappen.
All that can really be concluded is:
There are clean drivers and dirty drivers.
You have to decipher which one is which in this scenario.

The world clean might go a bit too far here for Verstappen as well although given the statistic that was provided here before, it obviously looks like Verstappen is a clean driver as per your definition. Competing fiercely is fine, but risking someone else's life when you clearly lost a fight in a curve on the track isn't just dirty, it's absolutely irresponsible and fucked up.

I would not award Verstappen the title of a dirty driver, but I think that even the most notorious fans of the driver from the Netherlands will not deny that Max is not one of the breed of drivers who will give up the track to an opponent even in a losing position. For the time being, this served Verstappen as a plus and an advantage, but until there was a rival ready to do the same. In any case, no one wants, neither the representatives of Mercedes nor Red Bull, that such a situation occurs in the races and the struggle of the pilots among themselves ends in this way. But the tension has increased a lot this season and it had to happen eventually. And I absolutely agree with Toto Wolff that such accidents can happen again, because the level of cars is at a similar level and the stakes are very high.

[mv1986]

Yeah with the feedback from several others on this matter with Hamilton vs Verstappen.
All that can really be concluded is:
There are clean drivers and dirty drivers.
You have to decipher which one is which in this scenario.

The world clean might go a bit too far here for Verstappen as well although given the statistic that was provided here before, it obviously looks like Verstappen is a clean driver as per your definition. Competing fiercely is fine, but risking someone else's life when you clearly lost a fight in a curve on the track isn't just dirty, it's absolutely irresponsible and fucked up.

I would not award Verstappen the title of a dirty driver, but I think that even the most notorious fans of the driver from the Netherlands will not deny that Max is not one of the breed of drivers who will give up the track to an opponent even in a losing position. For the time being, this served Verstappen as a plus and an advantage, but until there was a rival ready to do the same. In any case, no one wants, neither the representatives of Mercedes nor Red Bull, that such a situation occurs in the races and the struggle of the pilots among themselves ends in this way. But the tension has increased a lot this season and it had to happen eventually. And I absolutely agree with Toto Wolff that such accidents can happen again, because the level of cars is at a similar level and the stakes are very high.

I get your point, but then the question remains: if the rules are clear and you have to be at least with half the length of your car on the level of the driver outside the curve in order to claim the curve for yourself (as Hamilton did), what should the penalty be if you violate that rule? 10 seconds as Hamilton received? Then my next question would be: if in the next race Verstappen is on the inside in the very same position as Hamilton was in Silverstone, should Verstappen kick him out intentionally the same way Hamilton kicked him out? I mean there is a lot on the line and 10 seconds is worth it. Getting your championship rival out of the way while you can keep going afterwards is a good deal.

I think the penalty should have been more severe. A championship should never be decided through foul play if possible.

[rdbase]

Those are some good questions to ask in regards to penalizing an offending driver when they are in the wrong. There are rules and if they break them then that is what the stewards jobs are. To decide what the penalty should be.
Red bull wanted Hamilton to be suspended and miss the next race because of his actions.
But I think that is going overboard but that is what was suggested by the offended team's advisor Marko.
We will see, that's about it really.

On to the practice 1 run:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/practice-1/practice-1-60feab0921593ef4f98f70a1
Qualification race is here:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/qualification/qualification-60feaa4917ed8125f7d01bf4

[ILuckyGuyI]

It's another race week! After the incident in the last race, I expect Verstappen to be much more assertive in this one. He'd like a revenge against Hamilton. But I don't mean that he will do the same to Hamilton. I mean that Verstappen will just dominate the race if something doesn't go wrong. He's already much faster than Hamilton. We witnessed it in the past races.

[boltz]

It's another race week! After the incident in the last race, I expect Verstappen to be much more assertive in this one. He'd like a revenge against Hamilton. But I don't mean that he will do the same to Hamilton. I mean that Verstappen will just dominate the race if something doesn't go wrong. He's already much faster than Hamilton. We witnessed it in the past races.

Uhm I think Verstappen has had a lot of crashes in his racing career and this is not the perfect time to back down and I'm sure he will not. Last races on Hungaroring were always good for RedBull even without having the faster car so with the fastest car now , I think Verstappen will dominate both qualifiers and the race. Hamilton has 100 poles so it might take a while until he see him on pole ...maybe a couple of races or at least this is what I hope as I want Max to have at least 20 points in front before the summer break.

[mv1986]

It's another race week! After the incident in the last race, I expect Verstappen to be much more assertive in this one. He'd like a revenge against Hamilton. But I don't mean that he will do the same to Hamilton. I mean that Verstappen will just dominate the race if something doesn't go wrong. He's already much faster than Hamilton. We witnessed it in the past races.

Yes another race week. There is even one positive aspect about the crash between Hamilton and Verstappen. It is now to be expected that the tv audience will significantly increase because people are thrilled to see the battle between the two in the upcoming race. I agree that the crash contributes to the excitement, but I still think Hamilton is lucky to get away with it the way it now turned out for him.

[rdbase]

F1 qualifications are about to start in Hungary so get your bets in on who you think will step up from the crash last time these drivers went all the way to reach the checked flag in an exciting race.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/qualification/qualification-60feaa4917ed8125f7d01bf4

[boltz]

I had Max Verstappen to take pole but we all saw what happen but I'm ok with it because Max should have had a better time a lap before but he chose to push hard on the Q2 last time. Anyway, I do hope for some rain tomorrow as there are really chances for a thunderstorm near the starting time of the race.

[rdbase]

Hungarian race starts in 40 minutes from now so last chance to get in your bets on who you think will win this very tough race track.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/race/race-60f506cf513f7041636001a3

There was a promotion offered a while ago on if you think there will be less than 17 cars to finish the race at 10.00x odds earlier.
edit: here is one for 3.8x I found - https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/efe52838-ba65-4404-88ca-ec675b19e419
So you know this one will be one to watch!

[Koal-84]

Perfect start from Norris and Bottos shoot out all two RedBull with Norris as shot.

Now there is safty car already after the first lap. The cards are reshuffled, but the race already starts badly for Max, no luck for Verstappen and RedBull. So already red flag... And restart later.