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Superb race from Leclerc, Ferrari did a good race today keeping the RBR lap time and doing a good managment of the tires. Nothing they can do agains Max, RBR was superior this year and Ferrari got a good start of the season but a lot of engine problems.
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Mmmm for me its worst for him,because that radio message was full demagogy.
He know most of the fans dont like his attitude, so when he can t make any (h know that) he throw that radio message.... come on...... we are older people.
Verstapen its a shit of a person with a big EGO like most of the champions. LW its the same shit, no matter what they show. And fo that they are champions, you need some of that to be a champion.
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Verstappen seemed friendly to Perez in this race actually. I heard one time that he radioed about Perez to the team. He said that Perez could really make it by overtaking Leclerc.
To me all was staged after what happened last week, anyway Leclerc deserved the second position in the leaderboard. Shame on Perez who didn't managed to get the second spot with the best car, tons of points away from Max.
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Verstappen seemed friendly to Perez in this race actually. I heard one time that he radioed about Perez to the team. He said that Perez could really make it by overtaking Leclerc.
To me all was staged after what happened last week, anyway Leclerc deserved the second position in the leaderboard. Shame on Perez who didn't managed to get the second spot with the best car, tons of points away from Max. Yea , I feel the same but what can we do ? History of this season will remember Max fighting with Charles but the real battle should have been with Perez but even if that was the case , Max is still better than him. Next year I'm not so sure tho ,as I can see Ferrari having a massive change this winter on board section and I can also feel they learned a lot from this year mistakes and they need to deliver next year and same goes for Mercedes and even Aston Martin ? Because Alonso clearly wants a competitive year in 2023 or at least 2024. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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To me all was staged after what happened last week
That's correct. Shame on Perez who didn't managed to get the second spot with the best car, tons of points away from Max.
Yep, but we have seen that Max is helping Checo only if that doesn't affect his own results. And, for a change, Ferrari had a proper strategy this time. Verstapen its a shit of a person with a big EGO like most of the champions. LW its the same shit, no matter what they show.
Pretty good conclusion. And I will say something more: not helping your team mate? It has happened before. Getting a hard to beat record of race wins in a season... that will remain for a while; and for Max this was all that matters... unfortunately. One year ago I was happy for him - he worked for too long and deserved a world title, no matter what Hamilton's fans say - but now.. I've been listening to Checo after the race, I've been listening to Charles, and when Max came I said f.u. and stopped TV.
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I feel like Checo couldn't get the second position because the car wasn't as dominant as people think it is, and Checo was using it to help Max and not win races, there is a difference. It wasn't Rosberg vs Hamilton issue, it was literally Checo just being out there defending so Max could get away with a big win.
The car wasn't as dominant as the points show, because Max was the first driver and he gets the points, but the difference in points was due to Ferrari having a few DNF and also a ton of strategy problems, look at the whole year, Ferrari lost so many points because of bad strategy calls, that means if they didn't lose points due to those, it could have been much more closer to Max than Checo.
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I think that this thread also need something to be added today: Congratulations Seb for a wonderful career, you will be missed! #DankeSeb
Yes it was the last race of his career. They did a little shrine to him before the race in this video clip right at the beginning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NNWKCW3u9cHe had a good spin on the track and an interview right after getting out of Aston Martin for the very last time: Sebastian Vettel's Farewell To Formula 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnb0stU9JEcAnd a set piece by F1 for this driver who deserved the spotlight for the final race of the season: Danke Seb: Drivers Say Farewell To Sebastian Vettelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lesmCMl8JTw
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F1 had alot of sponsorships for cryptocurrency this race year. Here are the more prominent ones if you watched any of the races this past year. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F2ypTFQJ%2FCrypto-In-F1.jpg&t=665&c=6kp7h51pteqblw) I am certain most will change these logos going into the 2023 season.
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F1 had alot of sponsorships for cryptocurrency this race year. Here are the more prominent ones if you watched any of the races this past year.
You forgot FTX on the Mercs ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I'm sure they've payed quite a lot of money for the advertising be there (except the last ~2 races). Of course, they'll probably be missing in 2023.
Edit: breaking news: according to Italian newspaper, Binotto is stepping down.
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^^ No the video that made the chart of logos didn't include them so to give them any more exposure I would think. Didn't notice if they removed the symbol from their cars before the race in Brazil when all the instances with the company's mishaps were going on.
Yes seen the confirmed news about Binotto just this morning. Will see where Ferrari goes from here into the next season. Should make for some more confidential material for the Drive to Survive series upcoming season.
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It seems like Binotto is really preparing to leave Ferrari very soon. Ferrari have already made offers to some names and these people are:
- Andreas Seidl - Franz Tost - Gerhard Berger - Frédéric Vasseur
Only Vasseur seems to be interested in the job as the rest of these names have replied to them negatively. Ferrari needed a change for certain but I'm not sure if it should have been Binotto. I would have liked to see changes in-team only instead. I believe that there are many people who should be replaced with more skilled ones. They should drop the mistake amount to minimum next season to have a proper season. Neither Leclerc nor Sainz deserve these amateurish mistakes which cost them so much in a season.
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It seems like Binotto is really preparing to leave Ferrari very soon. Ferrari have already made offers to some names and these people are:
- Andreas Seidl - Franz Tost - Gerhard Berger - Frédéric Vasseur
Only Vasseur seems to be interested in the job as the rest of these names have replied to them negatively. Ferrari needed a change for certain but I'm not sure if it should have been Binotto. I would have liked to see changes in-team only instead. I believe that there are many people who should be replaced with more skilled ones. They should drop the mistake amount to minimum next season to have a proper season. Neither Leclerc nor Sainz deserve these amateurish mistakes which cost them so much in a season.
So true. In Italy , they are counting down his last days as Ferrari F1 chief and I think per total , it's a very wise decision to let Binotto go and Vasseur has massive experience in F1 Paddock in order to bring some positive energy and also to implement more respect for the brand Ferrari in F1 and to stop the clown fiesta during the important races and decisions. You're also right when you say that more people should be responsible for awful Ferrari season but the chaos was from inside but Ferrari are VERY LOYAL to their crew so I doubt we will see more important people being replaced. Meanwhile , I hope this new season will bring an old school face for Ferrari. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Also funny how Alonso had flashbacks in first day of driving his new Aston Martin as he thought he ended up in old Jaguar garage from 2002
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F1 had alot of sponsorships for cryptocurrency this race year. Here are the more prominent ones if you watched any of the races this past year. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F2ypTFQJ%2FCrypto-In-F1.jpg&t=665&c=6kp7h51pteqblw) I am certain most will change these logos going into the 2023 season. 90% of the sponsorships in F1 world is yearly because you rarely ever know which team will be great or not in the F1 seasons, one year it will be this one and next year it will be another one. However, the top is always the top, like if you want to sponsor Ferrari or red bull or Mercedes that will be a lot for sure, and it will get a lot of attention. The rest of the pack is not really going to be that clear, and I believe that's why it is just one season deals. Next year we are going to see plenty of crypto again, but this season came after a huge bull run, so companies already had money to spend, I feel like 2023 season may not be the case, considering the huge bear run we have been, and lesser profits they probably made.
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They still need to make changes in the team as well. Changing the "Team Principal" are not gonna make a big change for FERARRI. Team Strategy & Pit Crew need to be reformed, because they also make a big2 mistake for the driver from miss calculation strategy multiple time, put a wrong type tyre & most stupid mistake bring only 3 tyre. I hope, they also change it.
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November 29, 2022, 09:18:42 PM |
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Wouldn't it be great to see Sebastian Vettel taking the job? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It has been a meme since Binotto resigned of course. But honestly it wouldn't be bad to see him having an important role at Ferrari also. I know that his most successful times with Red Bull but Ferrari has a special place in his heart for sure. When it comes to who will take the team principal job it is really difficult to predict now. I just hope that they find a person who knows what he is doing. Binotto didn't seem likely to make changes in his crew so this might be the main reason why he was expected to leave his job. I assume the new team principle would build his own crew instead of going on with the current one.
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November 30, 2022, 09:25:01 AM |
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Wouldn't it be great to see Sebastian Vettel taking the job? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Let the guy rest bro. Sebastian Vettel is not really old, even though he retired from F1. If, he want to come-back he still can do that, some speculation Frédéric Vasseur - Team Principal from Alfa Romeo is the candidate. But that's just a rumor.
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December 01, 2022, 10:55:06 PM |
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They still need to make changes in the team as well. Changing the "Team Principal" are not gonna make a big change for FERARRI. Team Strategy & Pit Crew need to be reformed, because they also make a big2 mistake for the driver from miss calculation strategy multiple time, put a wrong type tyre & most stupid mistake bring only 3 tyre. I hope, they also change it. I like the idea of a complete overhaul of the Ferrari team with the dismissal of Binotto. Especially their tire team needs to go. The engines didn't sound right for the last few races as I had mentioned previously. Up shifting sounded alot different from the beginning of the season until the very end. About Vettel, yes I agree he just retired and doubt he wants to think about F1 for awhile now.
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December 01, 2022, 11:47:38 PM |
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I like the idea of a complete overhaul of the Ferrari team with the dismissal of Binotto. Especially their tire team needs to go.
I still can't think, If the current team Ferarri (Team Strategy & PitCrew) working in Mercedes. I believe, Toto is gonna give them an order for packing their stuff and leaving the Mercedes. Some rumors say Ferarri is really struggling due to the resignment of our lord (Masterplan BTCinoto) for the replacement. If headquarter Ferarri has not reformed the current team, hoping the next team principal who taken the action based on the performance of Ferarri in the 2022 season. We need to stop the circus ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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