The KRAKEN rises, meaning the 2020 election fraud is being corrected.

[BADecker]

Tucker Carlson VP! Wow! It's about time that we get some honest business people into the WH instead of a bunch of politicians, war-mongers, movie celebrities, and simple clowns. Trump and Tucker would be possibly the best co-adviser team ever. Business all the way - Making America Great Again. Of course, Joe Rogan and Tim Pool wouldn't bad.


Holy smokes… crowd goes absolutely WILD at MSG as Donald Trump walks in with Tucker Carlson…


https://revolver.news/2023/11/holy-smokes-crowd-goes-absolutely-wild-at-msg-as-donald-trump-walks-in-with-tucker-carlson/
This is epic. Is Kid Rock there also?

The crowd cheers for Trump as he walks into Madison Square Garden with Tucker Carlson for the #UFC295 main card. pic.twitter.com/655Cvj5Y0w

— David Pinsen (@dpinsen) November 12, 2023

Wow.

Donald Trump just arrived at Madison Square Garden for UFC 295 with Dana White, Kid Rock and Tucker Carlson. pic.twitter.com/BCGQ16q4Qk

— Arash Markazi (@ArashMarkazi) November 12, 2023

Here's a more high-definition picture.

Donald Trump just showed up at UFC 295 with Kid Rock, Tucker Carlson and Dana White pic.twitter.com/uBFfQ7zFcS

— Dexerto (@Dexerto) November 12, 2023

Tucker was clearly basking in the surreality of the moment.

Coincidentally, or maybe not coincidentally, the idea of Tucker Carlson as Trump's vice president has been making the rounds on the internet lately.

READ MORE: Tucker Carlson as our next Vice President isn't as "loopy" as it sounds…

The topic came up during an interview with Trump on the Clay & Buck Show.

?Donald Trump on the possibility of Tucker Carlson becoming his VP: "I like Tucker a lot. I guess I would consider him. He's got great common sense"

pic.twitter.com/jHiZJuJI5M

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) November 9, 2023

Charlie Kirk fleshed out the idea in a post on X:

Donald Trump says he's open to Tucker Carlson as a 2024 running mate. At first, it sounds a little loopy. But upon further thought…

Besides Trump himself, nobody enjoys the base's trust the way Tucker Carlson does. Nobody else intuitively understands their values, their priorities, or their worries the way they do.

No other VP contender is as battle-tested as Tucker. Like Trump, he thrives under attack and under pressure. He's been targeted and smeared endlessly for seven years, but he's never cracked, never had a breakdown. He's only become more popular. Despite years of digging, his personal life is spotless.

Tucker is the only Republican who can even begin to imitate Trump's rhetorical style. They're the only two men who can keep an audience transfixed speaking for an hour without a single note.

The Democrat plan is to keep Donald Trump stuck in court or even in jail so he can't campaign. Is anybody a more viable Trump campaign surrogate than Tucker Carlson?

And as we know, the vice president is just a heartbeat away from the presidency. If something were to happen to President Trump, God forbid, is there anyone we'd trust more than Tucker Carlson to carry the conservative mantle into the future?

This isn't some flight of fancy. Trump/Tucker is a great idea.

Donald Trump says he's open to Tucker Carlson as a 2024 running mate. At first, it sounds a little loopy. But upon further thought…

Besides Trump himself, nobody enjoys the base's trust the way Tucker Carlson does. Nobody else intuitively understands their values, their… pic.twitter.com/PRkkHeYbGG

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) November 10, 2023

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[TwitchySeal]

This nonsense off topic mess indicates you must be really embarrassed by what an epic failure the Kraken turned out to be.

[Hispo]

I would have expected Trump to select Karry Lake or MTG as running mate, but picking Tucker it makes sense to his plans. I guess.
I knew that Tucker getting directly involved in politics was just matter of time, but I would have betted he would had waited for Trump to expire politically before stepping ahead as a candidate for the Senate or the presidency, beginning his political career in this way and this early will of course translate into a boost to his future and will completely frighten the opposition, because the kind of political ideas Carlson has shown he holds.

To me Trump is trying to appeal each day more to a radical and far right wing of the voting base and is neglecting those who in the moderate right or in the center. Let us see how this goes, one cannot deny that both Tucker and Trump know one or two things about populism and propaganda, they are a good duo. Let us see if that translate to votes beyond the diehard Trump base.

[TwitchySeal]

I would have expected Trump to select Karry Lake or MTG as running mate, but picking Tucker it makes sense to his plans. I guess.
I knew that Tucker getting directly involved in politics was just matter of time, but I would have betted he would had waited for Trump to expire politically before stepping ahead as a candidate for the Senate or the presidency, beginning his political career in this way and this early will of course translate into a boost to his future and will completely frighten the opposition, because the kind of political ideas Carlson has shown he holds.

To me Trump is trying to appeal each day more to a radical and far right wing of the voting base and is neglecting those who in the moderate right or in the center. Let us see how this goes, one cannot deny that both Tucker and Trump know one or two things about populism and propaganda, they are a good duo. Let us see if that translate to votes beyond the diehard Trump base.

He'll never pick Tucker.  He's too much of a threat.  Plus he's on the record bad mouthing Trump in all sorts of ways and worse, he's on the record admitting Trump lost the 2020 election and the Kraken team is "batshit crazy".  He also wouldn't go to prison for Trump.  Kerry Lake and Elise Stefanik seem like front runners at this point.

[Hispo]

I would have expected Trump to select Karry Lake or MTG as running mate, but picking Tucker it makes sense to his plans. I guess.
I knew that Tucker getting directly involved in politics was just matter of time, but I would have betted he would had waited for Trump to expire politically before stepping ahead as a candidate for the Senate or the presidency, beginning his political career in this way and this early will of course translate into a boost to his future and will completely frighten the opposition, because the kind of political ideas Carlson has shown he holds.

To me Trump is trying to appeal each day more to a radical and far right wing of the voting base and is neglecting those who in the moderate right or in the center. Let us see how this goes, one cannot deny that both Tucker and Trump know one or two things about populism and propaganda, they are a good duo. Let us see if that translate to votes beyond the diehard Trump base.

He'll never pick Tucker.  He's too much of a threat.  Plus he's on the record bad mouthing Trump in all sorts of ways and worse, he's on the record admitting Trump lost the 2020 election and the Kraken team is "batshit crazy".  He also wouldn't go to prison for Trump.  Kerry Lake and Elise Stefanik seem like front runners at this point.

Trump may be very aware of the things Tucker has said in private about it, but is this not how western politics work nowadays? There is a lot of hypocrisy for the sake of power, so if Trump for some reason could guarantee some advantage over Joe Biden, I believe he would not mind to go and choose Tucker as running mate.
At this point though, It is unlikely Tucker will have the chance not because the things he has privately said about Trump, but because Tucker is a charismatic character like Trump and Trump does not like to get the spotlight stolen from him.   Pence was not the most charismatic people at all and Trump chose him last time.

[TwitchySeal]

I would have expected Trump to select Karry Lake or MTG as running mate, but picking Tucker it makes sense to his plans. I guess.
I knew that Tucker getting directly involved in politics was just matter of time, but I would have betted he would had waited for Trump to expire politically before stepping ahead as a candidate for the Senate or the presidency, beginning his political career in this way and this early will of course translate into a boost to his future and will completely frighten the opposition, because the kind of political ideas Carlson has shown he holds.

To me Trump is trying to appeal each day more to a radical and far right wing of the voting base and is neglecting those who in the moderate right or in the center. Let us see how this goes, one cannot deny that both Tucker and Trump know one or two things about populism and propaganda, they are a good duo. Let us see if that translate to votes beyond the diehard Trump base.

He'll never pick Tucker.  He's too much of a threat.  Plus he's on the record bad mouthing Trump in all sorts of ways and worse, he's on the record admitting Trump lost the 2020 election and the Kraken team is "batshit crazy".  He also wouldn't go to prison for Trump.  Kerry Lake and Elise Stefanik seem like front runners at this point.

Trump may be very aware of the things Tucker has said in private about it, but is this not how western politics work nowadays? There is a lot of hypocrisy for the sake of power, so if Trump for some reason could guarantee some advantage over Joe Biden, I believe he would not mind to go and choose Tucker as running mate.
At this point though, It is unlikely Tucker will have the chance not because the things he has privately said about Trump, but because Tucker is a charismatic character like Trump and Trump does not like to get the spotlight stolen from him.   Pence was not the most charismatic people at all and Trump chose him last time.

You're right, I could see Trump getting over the shit talking if he thought it served him.  But aside from that, Tucker is a threat.  He has his own following.  He has a powerful voice.  He has very defined political views.  There could easily be media cycles where VP Tucker has more attention than President Trump - and that would make Trump lose his mind.  That's why he picked Pence last time, the guy is a boring bland conservative that would do (almost) anything the President tells him to do.  Any alpha male has 0 chance at VP.

[Hispo]

I would have expected Trump to select Karry Lake or MTG as running mate, but picking Tucker it makes sense to his plans. I guess.
I knew that Tucker getting directly involved in politics was just matter of time, but I would have betted he would had waited for Trump to expire politically before stepping ahead as a candidate for the Senate or the presidency, beginning his political career in this way and this early will of course translate into a boost to his future and will completely frighten the opposition, because the kind of political ideas Carlson has shown he holds.

To me Trump is trying to appeal each day more to a radical and far right wing of the voting base and is neglecting those who in the moderate right or in the center. Let us see how this goes, one cannot deny that both Tucker and Trump know one or two things about populism and propaganda, they are a good duo. Let us see if that translate to votes beyond the diehard Trump base.

He'll never pick Tucker.  He's too much of a threat.  Plus he's on the record bad mouthing Trump in all sorts of ways and worse, he's on the record admitting Trump lost the 2020 election and the Kraken team is "batshit crazy".  He also wouldn't go to prison for Trump.  Kerry Lake and Elise Stefanik seem like front runners at this point.

Trump may be very aware of the things Tucker has said in private about it, but is this not how western politics work nowadays? There is a lot of hypocrisy for the sake of power, so if Trump for some reason could guarantee some advantage over Joe Biden, I believe he would not mind to go and choose Tucker as running mate.
At this point though, It is unlikely Tucker will have the chance not because the things he has privately said about Trump, but because Tucker is a charismatic character like Trump and Trump does not like to get the spotlight stolen from him.   Pence was not the most charismatic people at all and Trump chose him last time.

You're right, I could see Trump getting over the shit talking if he thought it served him.  But aside from that, Tucker is a threat.  He has his own following.  He has a powerful voice.  He has very defined political views.  There could easily be media cycles where VP Tucker has more attention than President Trump - and that would make Trump lose his mind.  That's why he picked Pence last time, the guy is a boring bland conservative that would do (almost) anything the President tells him to do.  Any alpha male has 0 chance at VP.

Makes me wonder whether what kind of presidency would be more dangerous to the democracy in the United States, either a trump presidency (which he have already seen) or a presidency of Carlson. One could be fooled by Tucker wacky past actions and interviews (like that occasion when he interviewed some guy who alledgely had sex with Obama) and believe he would be a harmless, clueless person in a position of power, but in reality, the way he seems to despise people of color and those who have a different politic opinion from his is very disturbing, since he actually would have a chance to become president someday if he decided to go for it and play his cards correctly once Trump is gone.
Perhaps, some of Trump followers would keep in mind the things he said privately about Donalds, but I doubt so, the average voter does not have a long term political memory.

[sirazimuth]

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Hey not.a.sir.azimuth notbatman, I’m kind of jealous you know.

Hey bro, interesting theory but sorry to piss on your parade....  I'm not notbatman.
I'm that government agent spying on your paranoid ass. lmao.
Seriously, I've been on this forum for close to 10 years with one account. Believe it or not, I don't really care. My conscious is clear.
I'm not.a.sir.azimuth and you are not Cryptotourist, amirite?

Dude, stop being so toxic in the wob. Seriously.

Oh yeah to get back on topic.....
 hey Bud!  you like the latest kraken leaked vids?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdpOpi-9aMk

[BADecker]

We are seeing that San Francisco government could have cleaned up SF any time that they wanted. We are seeing it in the fact that they are cleaning SF up, now. But how does this show that Trump is winning?


Bill Maher Says Sudden Clean-up in San Francisco for China is Proof That Trump is Winning in 2024


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/11/bill-maher-says-sudden-clean-up-san-francisco/
Suddenly, people in San Francisco and other Americans all around the country could see that the city could have been cleaned up at any time. The leaders there just chose not to do it.

What an insult to the public. Even Bill Maher gets it.

"Real Time" host Bill Maher connected the dots between the Democrats' abrupt clean-up of San Francisco ahead of Chinese President Xi Jinping's visit and former President Donald Trump's potential election victory in 2024.

"I want to try a theory out on you why Trump is killing it — not just within the party, but he's beating Biden heavily too," Maher kicked off the panel discussion on Friday. "Because Xi, President Xi of China, came to our state this week and met with Biden up in San Francisco, and they had a little summit."
...

[Hispo]

We are seeing that San Francisco government could have cleaned up SF any time that they wanted. We are seeing it in the fact that they are cleaning SF up, now. But how does this show that Trump is winning?


Bill Maher Says Sudden Clean-up in San Francisco for China is Proof That Trump is Winning in 2024


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/11/bill-maher-says-sudden-clean-up-san-francisco/
Suddenly, people in San Francisco and other Americans all around the country could see that the city could have been cleaned up at any time. The leaders there just chose not to do it.

What an insult to the public. Even Bill Maher gets it.

"Real Time" host Bill Maher connected the dots between the Democrats' abrupt clean-up of San Francisco ahead of Chinese President Xi Jinping's visit and former President Donald Trump's potential election victory in 2024.

"I want to try a theory out on you why Trump is killing it — not just within the party, but he's beating Biden heavily too," Maher kicked off the panel discussion on Friday. "Because Xi, President Xi of China, came to our state this week and met with Biden up in San Francisco, and they had a little summit."
...

I have read about the preparations the Government of San Francisco made looking forward to the visit of Xi. And I must say it is actually quite concerning coming from a country like the United States.
I am from a South American country where there is a high level of corruption and neglect within the government, because of it many of our cities and towns  continuously stay in a state of decay (in the worst cases) the only way some major or governor decides to paint around, clean and fix around the city is whether there is an important election coming or an important politician visiting the city, like the president or some foreign representative.
In a country like the USA, with all the taxes people pay and keeping in mind it is a first world country, cities are supposed to be always clean and in good shape, instead of waiting for someone important to come to clean the house...

[BADecker]

Anybody who has a half a brain knows that Biden will lose 2024, provided it's a completely honest election, of course. If Biden wins, everybody will recognize that there was criminal interference in the election.


"He's Going To Lose": Bill Maher And Donna Brazile Slam Biden As Democrats Recoil Over


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hes-going-lose-bill-maher-and-donna-brazile-slam-biden-democrats-recoil-over-age-handling
Gavin Newsom's oft joked about 2024 shadow campaign is going swimmingly, as Democratic darlings such as former DNC Chair Donna Brazile have joined the ongoing media campaign to destroy Joe Biden ahead of the next election.

Brazile joins the ranks of David Axelrod and Bill Kristol, the former of whom suggested Biden 'get out or get going,' and Kristol - a NeverTrump™ neocon's neocon, said "it's time for Biden to announce he won't run in 2024." The two were reacting to an early Nov. NY Times poll which showed Trump wiping the floor with Biden in 5 of 6 battleground states that Biden carried in 2020.


...

[TwitchySeal]

Anybody who has a half a brain knows that Biden will lose 2024, provided it's a completely honest election, of course. If Biden wins, everybody will recognize that there was criminal interference in the election.


"He's Going To Lose": Bill Maher And Donna Brazile Slam Biden As Democrats Recoil Over


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hes-going-lose-bill-maher-and-donna-brazile-slam-biden-democrats-recoil-over-age-handling
Gavin Newsom's oft joked about 2024 shadow campaign is going swimmingly, as Democratic darlings such as former DNC Chair Donna Brazile have joined the ongoing media campaign to destroy Joe Biden ahead of the next election.

Brazile joins the ranks of David Axelrod and Bill Kristol, the former of whom suggested Biden 'get out or get going,' and Kristol - a NeverTrump™ neocon's neocon, said "it's time for Biden to announce he won't run in 2024." The two were reacting to an early Nov. NY Times poll which showed Trump wiping the floor with Biden in 5 of 6 battleground states that Biden carried in 2020.


...

I see the fake news media finally stopped rigging the polls, now if Biden wins you'll be able to point to this poll as proof the election was rigged, nice!

[Hispo]

Anybody who has a half a brain knows that Biden will lose 2024, provided it's a completely honest election, of course. If Biden wins, everybody will recognize that there was criminal interference in the election.


"He's Going To Lose": Bill Maher And Donna Brazile Slam Biden As Democrats Recoil Over


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hes-going-lose-bill-maher-and-donna-brazile-slam-biden-democrats-recoil-over-age-handling
Gavin Newsom's oft joked about 2024 shadow campaign is going swimmingly, as Democratic darlings such as former DNC Chair Donna Brazile have joined the ongoing media campaign to destroy Joe Biden ahead of the next election.

Brazile joins the ranks of David Axelrod and Bill Kristol, the former of whom suggested Biden 'get out or get going,' and Kristol - a NeverTrump™ neocon's neocon, said "it's time for Biden to announce he won't run in 2024." The two were reacting to an early Nov. NY Times poll which showed Trump wiping the floor with Biden in 5 of 6 battleground states that Biden carried in 2020.


...

I see the fake news media finally stopped rigging the polls, now if Biden wins you'll be able to point to this poll as proof the election was rigged, nice!

Meh, if anything people from the United States was supposed to learn from the midterm and local elections held in the USA during Biden's presidency is that polls are not to be taken as the final resolution on how an election will end up.
Polls can show anything, in the end those who vote are the only ones in power of choosing their leaders.
If we were supposed to use polls as some kind of ultimate proof against election fraud, then I think we could find some instances in American history when Democrats were favored by polls but end up losing to republicans. They did not shouted and alledged fraud, though.
They simply accepted the defeat and moved on getting to work and try to do better during the next election cycle.

Is really that difficult to get back to sanity politics, seriously?

[Antisthenes]

Hey bro, interesting theory but sorry to piss on your parade....  I'm not notbatman.

Well, if.you.say.so. Hahahahaha.

Seriously, I've been on this forum for close to 10 years with one account. Believe it or not, I don't really care.

Hahahahahaha, thanks for the morning giggles.

My conscious is clear.

Your conscious is far from clear - you’re pure fucking evil.

I'm not.a.sir.azimuth and you are not Cryptotourist, amirite?

Meet Donald Trump.

[paxmao]

Anybody who has a half a brain knows that Biden will lose 2024, provided it's a completely honest election, of course. If Biden wins, everybody will recognize that there was criminal interference in the election.


"He's Going To Lose": Bill Maher And Donna Brazile Slam Biden As Democrats Recoil Over


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hes-going-lose-bill-maher-and-donna-brazile-slam-biden-democrats-recoil-over-age-handling
Gavin Newsom's oft joked about 2024 shadow campaign is going swimmingly, as Democratic darlings such as former DNC Chair Donna Brazile have joined the ongoing media campaign to destroy Joe Biden ahead of the next election.

Brazile joins the ranks of David Axelrod and Bill Kristol, the former of whom suggested Biden 'get out or get going,' and Kristol - a NeverTrump™ neocon's neocon, said "it's time for Biden to announce he won't run in 2024." The two were reacting to an early Nov. NY Times poll which showed Trump wiping the floor with Biden in 5 of 6 battleground states that Biden carried in 2020.


...

I see the fake news media finally stopped rigging the polls, now if Biden wins you'll be able to point to this poll as proof the election was rigged, nice!

The problem with the "polls" is that some people may actually believe them and when their candidate looses spectacularly they naturally get convinced that it had to be a fraud and then it happens what it happened.

My question is, if Trump is allowed to run (a big if) and if he looses again, will he call on an assault on the Capitol again and praise the people performing such an act?

[Hispo]

Anybody who has a half a brain knows that Biden will lose 2024, provided it's a completely honest election, of course. If Biden wins, everybody will recognize that there was criminal interference in the election.


"He's Going To Lose": Bill Maher And Donna Brazile Slam Biden As Democrats Recoil Over


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hes-going-lose-bill-maher-and-donna-brazile-slam-biden-democrats-recoil-over-age-handling
Gavin Newsom's oft joked about 2024 shadow campaign is going swimmingly, as Democratic darlings such as former DNC Chair Donna Brazile have joined the ongoing media campaign to destroy Joe Biden ahead of the next election.

Brazile joins the ranks of David Axelrod and Bill Kristol, the former of whom suggested Biden 'get out or get going,' and Kristol - a NeverTrump™ neocon's neocon, said "it's time for Biden to announce he won't run in 2024." The two were reacting to an early Nov. NY Times poll which showed Trump wiping the floor with Biden in 5 of 6 battleground states that Biden carried in 2020.


...

I see the fake news media finally stopped rigging the polls, now if Biden wins you'll be able to point to this poll as proof the election was rigged, nice!

The problem with the "polls" is that some people may actually believe them and when their candidate looses spectacularly they naturally get convinced that it had to be a fraud and then it happens what it happened.

My question is, if Trump is allowed to run (a big if) and if he looses again, will he call on an assault on the Capitol again and praise the people performing such an act?

I don't think Trump would dare to call for their followers to explicitly assault anything or anyone in the case he lose the presidency of his country. The fact he is bad mouthing people now and believe he cannot be touchedz it is because he takes advantage of his state as leading candidate for the Republican party. If he loses he will likely just stay home and ask his lawyers to somehow use his private citizen status to get him out of trouble.

[BADecker]

~

The problem with the "polls" is that some people may actually believe them and when their candidate looses spectacularly they naturally get convinced that it had to be a fraud and then it happens what it happened.

My question is, if Trump is allowed to run (a big if) and if he looses again, will he call on an assault on the Capitol again and praise the people performing such an act?

I don't think Trump would dare to call for their followers to explicitly assault anything or anyone in the case he lose the presidency of his country. The fact he is bad mouthing people now and believe he cannot be touchedz it is because he takes advantage of his state as leading candidate for the Republican party. If he loses he will likely just stay home and ask his lawyers to somehow use his private citizen status to get him out of trouble.

The kind of assault that the Trump people - average American citizens around the country - are doing right now is an assault on the evil in government. The people are waking up to the evil of the Dems and RINO's, especially including Biden and his team, and will be casting them out of government come some of the next elections, including the 2024 Presidential election.

[Hispo]

~

The problem with the "polls" is that some people may actually believe them and when their candidate looses spectacularly they naturally get convinced that it had to be a fraud and then it happens what it happened.

My question is, if Trump is allowed to run (a big if) and if he looses again, will he call on an assault on the Capitol again and praise the people performing such an act?

I don't think Trump would dare to call for their followers to explicitly assault anything or anyone in the case he lose the presidency of his country. The fact he is bad mouthing people now and believe he cannot be touchedz it is because he takes advantage of his state as leading candidate for the Republican party. If he loses he will likely just stay home and ask his lawyers to somehow use his private citizen status to get him out of trouble.

The kind of assault that the Trump people - average American citizens around the country - are doing right now is an assault on the evil in government. The people are waking up to the evil of the Dems and RINO's, especially including Biden and his team, and will be casting them out of government come some of the next elections, including the 2024 Presidential election.

As long as Biden is cast out the government, as you say, through democratic means, then it should not be a problem, the trouble comes when the democratic system itself is the one under siege because many people did not like the result. And let me remind you: one of the most important parts of democracy is the losing part to accept defeat and move on.

I am aware there are millions of people in the United States who disapprove the administration of Biden, that is fine and they have the right to express their disapproval, under their first amendment. But the constitution cannot be used as a tool to destroy the same laws there are written in it. And the first amendment is not supposed to protect difamation, for example.

[BADecker]

~

The problem with the "polls" is that some people may actually believe them and when their candidate looses spectacularly they naturally get convinced that it had to be a fraud and then it happens what it happened.

My question is, if Trump is allowed to run (a big if) and if he looses again, will he call on an assault on the Capitol again and praise the people performing such an act?

I don't think Trump would dare to call for their followers to explicitly assault anything or anyone in the case he lose the presidency of his country. The fact he is bad mouthing people now and believe he cannot be touchedz it is because he takes advantage of his state as leading candidate for the Republican party. If he loses he will likely just stay home and ask his lawyers to somehow use his private citizen status to get him out of trouble.

The kind of assault that the Trump people - average American citizens around the country - are doing right now is an assault on the evil in government. The people are waking up to the evil of the Dems and RINO's, especially including Biden and his team, and will be casting them out of government come some of the next elections, including the 2024 Presidential election.

As long as Biden is cast out the government, as you say, through democratic means, then it should not be a problem, the trouble comes when the democratic system itself is the one under siege because many people did not like the result. And let me remind you: one of the most important parts of democracy is the losing part to accept defeat and move on.

I am aware there are millions of people in the United States who disapprove the administration of Biden, that is fine and they have the right to express their disapproval, under their first amendment. But the constitution cannot be used as a tool to destroy the same laws there are written in it. And the first amendment is not supposed to protect difamation, for example.

Let me repeat what you said, "... the trouble comes when the democratic system itself is the one under siege because many people did not like the result." Your so-called 'many' was really 'most'. And when most of the voters don't get what they want because of election interference from other countries, as well as within, that's when Democracy is under siege. And that is what happened in the 2020 election. That's why Biden made it into office rather than Trump.

Nobody is using the Constitution to "destroy the same laws there are written in it." Rather, Congress and Biden are simply bypassing the Constitution, and doing much of what they simply want against the Constitution.

The 1st Amendment allows any speech that is or might be defamation against a group. If anybody thinks that he has been harmed by some so-called defamation, let him show the harm done to him in court, and require damages there. But...

He better make sure he really has some damages to show. Why? Because if he wasn't really damaged, the person he is accusing just might accuse HIM of defamation of character by taking him to court for nothing. This could go on and on, each one accusing the other, anew, of defamation of character in court. Who wins? The courts collect a fee from a filer every time he files documents with the court.

[paxmao]

~

The problem with the "polls" is that some people may actually believe them and when their candidate looses spectacularly they naturally get convinced that it had to be a fraud and then it happens what it happened.

My question is, if Trump is allowed to run (a big if) and if he looses again, will he call on an assault on the Capitol again and praise the people performing such an act?

I don't think Trump would dare to call for their followers to explicitly assault anything or anyone in the case he lose the presidency of his country. The fact he is bad mouthing people now and believe he cannot be touchedz it is because he takes advantage of his state as leading candidate for the Republican party. If he loses he will likely just stay home and ask his lawyers to somehow use his private citizen status to get him out of trouble.

The kind of assault that the Trump people - average American citizens around the country - are doing right now is an assault on the evil in government. The people are waking up to the evil of the Dems and RINO's, especially including Biden and his team, and will be casting them out of government come some of the next elections, including the 2024 Presidential election.

As long as Biden is cast out the government, as you say, through democratic means, then it should not be a problem, the trouble comes when the democratic system itself is the one under siege because many people did not like the result. And let me remind you: one of the most important parts of democracy is the losing part to accept defeat and move on.

I am aware there are millions of people in the United States who disapprove the administration of Biden, that is fine and they have the right to express their disapproval, under their first amendment. But the constitution cannot be used as a tool to destroy the same laws there are written in it. And the first amendment is not supposed to protect difamation, for example.

Let me repeat what you said, "... the trouble comes when the democratic system itself is the one under siege because many people did not like the result." Your so-called 'many' was really 'most'. And when most of the voters don't get what they want because of election interference from other countries, as well as within, that's when Democracy is under siege. And that is what happened in the 2020 election. That's why Biden made it into office rather than Trump.

Nobody is using the Constitution to "destroy the same laws there are written in it." Rather, Congress and Biden are simply bypassing the Constitution, and doing much of what they simply want against the Constitution.

The 1st Amendment allows any speech that is or might be defamation against a group. If anybody thinks that he has been harmed by some so-called defamation, let him show the harm done to him in court, and require damages there. But...

He better make sure he really has some damages to show. Why? Because if he wasn't really damaged, the person he is accusing just might accuse HIM of defamation of character by taking him to court for nothing. This could go on and on, each one accusing the other, anew, of defamation of character in court. Who wins? The courts collect a fee from a filer every time he files documents with the court.

Just blurting the same stupid things over and over. Nobody has faked the results, Trump has never ever generated any proof of his claims not before the judges not in general. Cannot you see all these arguments can be very clearly seen as the excuses of a looser? A rant of a childish rich preppy that did not get it his way?

You do not get to decide that the other guy is "evil" or that all is because of "a deep state" so you are ok to take the government by force. Want to be US president? Win an election for real. That is the path, the only honest one. There are rules that have been agreed before you were even born and if you decide to break them, there is a price to pay. In most countries Trump would be in jail for decades by now, and in some, in death row.

You do not get to decide how the constitution amendments are interpreted. e.g. the freedom of speech is not an absolute right, it has limits because it clashes with other rights, just like many other rights end where they start interfering with other rights.

Not only that, this is actually not allowing a honest political talk about what's convenient for the US and how Trump will have a devastating effect in US international relations, trade agreements, competitivity of the US economy, jobs in US, ... I only wish the democrats had something better to offer than Biden who is simply too old (81 fucking years) to take the presidency again and perhaps to understand that fact. You should not have someone with 86 years in a role that is 24 hour. Even Trump is 77, by the time he could potentially finish his presidency he would be around 82. The US needs to start leaving cronies in their golf clubs, they are too grumpy.