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August 09, 2021, 04:44:46 AM
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Gambling sites don't have to take action for their customers that got being irresponsible after playing on their site. That's out of their service but if they will have a program for those who fall, I will support them at all costs.
Some countries are having that kind of regulations to push gambling houses to have facilities to take care of their harm related activities of gambling but most gambling houses are bypassing those restrictions or not completely following them after getting license things.

gambling mostly comes bad to greedy people
No, gambling first turns people greedy and then starts hurting them. Gambling by its nature got lots of power to influence all the gamblers which must be the reason why we do see even people start gambling responsibly ending up losing everything later on.
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August 09, 2021, 05:06:51 AM
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What kind of harm can a gambler get while playing online? Curved spine because of sitting on a bad chair and loosing visual acuity? But that is not what company be responsible for. If a gambler looses a lot - this is an addiction that specialists must cure. Chances of loosing due to phishing ? Again this is gamblers responsibility.
yeah, the responsibility of online gambling providers is only to provide such as bankrolls, games, chat rooms, etc. This is like something that does provide.. but basically it comes back to the user, the risk and whatever is experienced by the gambler.. it is of course borne by the gambler, has nothing to do with the gambling provider, and even gambling providers sometimes cheating the gamblers, how could they think about the gamblers risk or something like harm.
Harm related activities like killing , robbing and some sort like this is a authority matters , meaning it is the government will shoulder those and besides the gambling sites are paying taxes with huge amount for these effect.
i think if this is really need to take part then best to put more taxes instead of obligating them to take responsibilities on the harm matter.
i am also a gambler so i understand the sentiments here but it doesn't mean that i will support this campaign because it is not ethical.

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August 09, 2021, 05:27:45 AM
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What kind of harm can a gambler get while playing online? Curved spine because of sitting on a bad chair and loosing visual acuity? But that is not what company be responsible for. If a gambler looses a lot - this is an addiction that specialists must cure. Chances of loosing due to phishing ? Again this is gamblers responsibility.
yeah, the responsibility of online gambling providers is only to provide such as bankrolls, games, chat rooms, etc. This is like something that does provide.. but basically it comes back to the user, the risk and whatever is experienced by the gambler.. it is of course borne by the gambler, has nothing to do with the gambling provider, and even gambling providers sometimes cheating the gamblers, how could they think about the gamblers risk or something like harm.
Harm related activities like killing , robbing and some sort like this is a authority matters , meaning it is the government will shoulder those and besides the gambling sites are paying taxes with huge amount for these effect.
i think if this is really need to take part then best to put more taxes instead of obligating them to take responsibilities on the harm matter.
i am also a gambler so i understand the sentiments here but it doesn't mean that i will support this campaign because it is not ethical.


its always the government but it has to have a relationship with the industry too. or it will be thought for the industry to survive. any politician can act tough to keep milking from the casino if they are not going to cooperate.

but with government cooperation, it will be easy for the casinos to operate and make it appear like they are also responsible people. it's the government that will be responsible for the harm that casinos are infecting to the gamblers. government imposes bigger taxes from the casino and then the taxes are to be used for the treatment of the addiction.

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August 09, 2021, 08:23:40 AM
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Well, we're all grown-ups and it's not surprising to see some grown-up, adults, that are still cannot control their emotions and trying to look for some other things to blame with their own fault.
That's because we have different upbringings in life so we see things and control things at a different level and perspective, someone you might see compulsively gamble sees themselves as doing just fine according to them so you can't blame them too, iblame only disregards the issue which is the harm or hurt and it's causes that was caused by their actions.
and it is also about our ATTITUDE , it is not upbringings but the truly inside us.

gambling mostly comes bad to greedy people and this is how it goes for some, best not to treat gambling as vices but instead for fun activities.

so we don't need to bother those companies that only needs business.
The majority of the gamblers are greedy and that cannot be removed unless they control it during those hard times. You cannot also stop someone who's into it just to say few words to stop. Because even if they want to, they just can't as it became part of their daily lives. And when they are harmed or there's sort of bad result, then it should be their responsibility if they lose that much and there is no need to put the blame to the casino as if looking to secure that when you gamble there's an insurance for such.

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August 09, 2021, 12:42:21 PM
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The majority of the gamblers are greedy and that cannot be removed unless they control it during those hard times. You cannot also stop someone who's into it just to say few words to stop. Because even if they want to, they just can't as it became part of their daily lives. And when they are harmed or there's sort of bad result, then it should be their responsibility if they lose that much and there is no need to put the blame to the casino as if looking to secure that when you gamble there's an insurance for such.

Sad thing with this activities, instead of treating this venue as entertainment gamblers see this as good source of profits. At first they are able to control stopping in the right time and qui with decent amount of money.

While, afterwards greed start to comes and instead of enjoying some winning gamblers start to keep playing and keep trying to win more only to realize that luck is not always behind them. They'll keep pushing to the point that addiction happened to them and unable to stop it and control it.


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August 09, 2021, 01:07:58 PM
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What kind of harm can a gambler get while playing online? Curved spine because of sitting on a bad chair and loosing visual acuity? But that is not what company be responsible for. If a gambler looses a lot - this is an addiction that specialists must cure. Chances of loosing due to phishing ? Again this is gamblers responsibility.
yeah, the responsibility of online gambling providers is only to provide such as bankrolls, games, chat rooms, etc. This is like something that does provide.. but basically it comes back to the user, the risk and whatever is experienced by the gambler.. it is of course borne by the gambler, has nothing to do with the gambling provider, and even gambling providers sometimes cheating the gamblers, how could they think about the gamblers risk or something like harm.

You are correct, and you should be aware that before we created an account, there were terms and conditions that stated that they are not responsible for anything that happens to you after you check the agree box, and that you will be unable to do anything and that they will not assist you. However, you should be aware of the risks and emotional state that you may encounter before playing. Play for fun and not for profit, and avoid becoming addicted to gambling.
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August 10, 2021, 03:41:59 AM
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What kind of harm can a gambler get while playing online? Curved spine because of sitting on a bad chair and loosing visual acuity? But that is not what company be responsible for. If a gambler looses a lot - this is an addiction that specialists must cure. Chances of loosing due to phishing ? Again this is gamblers responsibility.
yeah, the responsibility of online gambling providers is only to provide such as bankrolls, games, chat rooms, etc. This is like something that does provide.. but basically it comes back to the user, the risk and whatever is experienced by the gambler.. it is of course borne by the gambler, has nothing to do with the gambling provider, and even gambling providers sometimes cheating the gamblers, how could they think about the gamblers risk or something like harm.

You are correct, and you should be aware that before we created an account, there were terms and conditions that stated that they are not responsible for anything that happens to you after you check the agree box, and that you will be unable to do anything and that they will not assist you. However, you should be aware of the risks and emotional state that you may encounter before playing. Play for fun and not for profit, and avoid becoming addicted to gambling.
Most gamblers will not think much about the terms and conditions instead directly registering on that gambling site.
They will agree with all of the consequences that might happen to them, even if they can become addicted to gambling in the future.
The risk of playing gambling will be there and it needs awareness from a gambler to realize that they are playing gambling for fun and not for making money.
However, the gambling games really know how to make the gamblers stay for a long time and use their money to gamble more.
And the casino will not be responsible for anything that can happen to that gamblers.

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Most gamblers will not think much about the terms and conditions instead directly registering on that gambling site.
They will agree with all of the consequences that might happen to them, even if they can become addicted to gambling in the future.
The risk of playing gambling will be there and it needs awareness from a gambler to realize that they are playing gambling for fun and not for making money.
However, the gambling games really know how to make the gamblers stay for a long time and use their money to gamble more.
And the casino will not be responsible for anything that can happen to that gamblers.

The casino will do everything to keep their players to keep coming back,

Casinos are  business and they'll do their best to keep it growing, they will not held liable with how the gamblers will become due to addictions,

It's the gamblers actions that needs to being responsible, any act of illegal things won't affect the business as they are just waiting for gamblers to come in and play, without knowing where the money came from.
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August 10, 2021, 06:46:16 PM
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Unless they're the reason for the harm then it's a big no since they only provide the service, they're not responsible how their customers act, that's doting and asshole of them to do so. I think businesses should have some protection of their own too because sometimes it's the customers that are the assholes that compromises the business.
Its a self will decision for you to gamble and its not a casinos fault when you do get addicted.Its just too dumb that people would consider that casinos are the ones who should responsible about addiction and messing up

gamblers life in the end? Then people shouldnt play gambling in the first place if they would really be having this kind of blaming into something which isnt supposed to be blamed because of our wrong decisions.

Gambling isnt bad if you do know on how to handle yourself but if you do past into your limits then its an another piece of story.

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August 10, 2021, 07:25:30 PM
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Unless they're the reason for the harm then it's a big no since they only provide the service, they're not responsible how their customers act, that's doting and asshole of them to do so. I think businesses should have some protection of their own too because sometimes it's the customers that are the assholes that compromises the business.
Its a self will decision for you to gamble and its not a casinos fault when you do get addicted.Its just too dumb that people would consider that casinos are the ones who should responsible about addiction and messing up

gamblers life in the end? Then people shouldnt play gambling in the first place if they would really be having this kind of blaming into something which isnt supposed to be blamed because of our wrong decisions.

Gambling isnt bad if you do know on how to handle yourself but if you do past into your limits then its an another piece of story.
Before you start playing gambling, you have to accept the consequences besides experiencing losses, you will also experience addiction and cannot blame the casino.
Casinos only provide services for fun and don't force you to enter or get involved in them, so no matter what happens, blame yourself for overplaying and you have to deal with it yourself and not blame the casino.

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August 10, 2021, 09:44:36 PM
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There is no need to put responsibility in the company in relation to harmful activities. at first, they did not force you to play the game and they didn't do anything to persuade you, if you get addicted to gambling, you lose your meals, taking a bath and you got sick because you only focused on gambling then that is not their fault because you are the one who chose to be like that.
I get your point the companies shouldn't be held responsible for gamblers carelessness but at some point this companies can also help reduce the harm. It will be ethical if this gambling companies require statement of account from gamblers before registration so the help them manage their deposits and regulate the amount the will stake for every bet And also set limits to which the can play on daily, weekly and monthly basis.
I'll have to disagree with you there, if you are doing that you then you are basically giving control of your money to a stranger that you do not really know, we cannot have it both ways we're either adults or we are kids, and if we are adults then we need to be completely responsible for the decisions that we take and that means owning our mistakes as well, I know that is something that no one wants to do but if you want to learn to not do this again then you have no other option, and by the way most people can control their gambling it is just a minority that are unable to control it.
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August 10, 2021, 10:52:32 PM
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The majority of the gamblers are greedy and that cannot be removed unless they control it during those hard times. You cannot also stop someone who's into it just to say few words to stop. Because even if they want to, they just can't as it became part of their daily lives. And when they are harmed or there's sort of bad result, then it should be their responsibility if they lose that much and there is no need to put the blame to the casino as if looking to secure that when you gamble there's an insurance for such.

Sad thing with this activities, instead of treating this venue as entertainment gamblers see this as good source of profits. At first they are able to control stopping in the right time and qui with decent amount of money.

While, afterwards greed start to comes and instead of enjoying some winning gamblers start to keep playing and keep trying to win more only to realize that luck is not always behind them. They'll keep pushing to the point that addiction happened to them and unable to stop it and control it.


You'll never change that fact and idea that there's really a source that can be seen in gambling. But this is only for those people that have been on it for a long time, not for those newbies that just saw how others made huge profit on it and then they'll also think it will be the same for them. And it's already on the gambler how he's going to make himself comfortable as he gambles but just don't blame the casino, it's their business and gambling results are known that the house always win and every lose that we make is already anticipated as this is gambling.

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August 11, 2021, 04:44:31 AM
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Most gamblers will not think much about the terms and conditions instead directly registering on that gambling site.
They will agree with all of the consequences that might happen to them, even if they can become addicted to gambling in the future.
The risk of playing gambling will be there and it needs awareness from a gambler to realize that they are playing gambling for fun and not for making money.
However, the gambling games really know how to make the gamblers stay for a long time and use their money to gamble more.
And the casino will not be responsible for anything that can happen to that gamblers.

The casino will do everything to keep their players to keep coming back,

Casinos are  business and they'll do their best to keep it growing, they will not held liable with how the gamblers will become due to addictions,

It's the gamblers actions that needs to being responsible, any act of illegal things won't affect the business as they are just waiting for gamblers to come in and play, without knowing where the money came from.
Unfortunately, the gamblers are not responsible for what they did in gambling and they still continue gambling without stop.
The gamblers get attracted to the casino because their mind always thinks about how to win the games.
The casino did great work to temp the gamblers to come back to their place and tempted them to deposit more money because that means their business becomes bigger.
If the gamblers know how to responsibly while playing gambling, they will not get tempted and they can playing gambling properly without wanting to chase the win money.

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August 11, 2021, 10:28:51 AM
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The majority of the gamblers are greedy and that cannot be removed unless they control it during those hard times. You cannot also stop someone who's into it just to say few words to stop. Because even if they want to, they just can't as it became part of their daily lives. And when they are harmed or there's sort of bad result, then it should be their responsibility if they lose that much and there is no need to put the blame to the casino as if looking to secure that when you gamble there's an insurance for such.

Sad thing with this activities, instead of treating this venue as entertainment gamblers see this as good source of profits. At first they are able to control stopping in the right time and qui with decent amount of money.

While, afterwards greed start to comes and instead of enjoying some winning gamblers start to keep playing and keep trying to win more only to realize that luck is not always behind them. They'll keep pushing to the point that addiction happened to them and unable to stop it and control it.


You'll never change that fact and idea that there's really a source that can be seen in gambling. But this is only for those people that have been on it for a long time, not for those newbies that just saw how others made huge profit on it and then they'll also think it will be the same for them. And it's already on the gambler how he's going to make himself comfortable as he gambles but just don't blame the casino, it's their business and gambling results are known that the house always win and every lose that we make is already anticipated as this is gambling.

You'll never see gambling as an entertainment unless you're a very wealthy man, that's the truth. Automatically those normal people who play gambling would always be after the profit, they do gambling as a living, that's why gambling also makes a living on them. But we never blame the gambling sites, instead we should blame ourselves, or none at all because what we are doing (keep on trying) means we still do hope we could make a living.

Yes, it's half good and half bad depending on someone's situation.

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August 11, 2021, 03:21:45 PM
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I am not a supporter of the fact that casinos are guilty of gambling addiction to society, but I quite understand the point of view of those who think so. On the one hand, if we ban gambling activities, it should reduce the level of gambling addiction, which will have a positive impact on society. But on the other hand banning casinos violates our freedom of choice. I think there will never be a compromise in this debate.

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August 11, 2021, 07:10:11 PM
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Most gamblers will not think much about the terms and conditions instead directly registering on that gambling site.
They will agree with all of the consequences that might happen to them, even if they can become addicted to gambling in the future.
The risk of playing gambling will be there and it needs awareness from a gambler to realize that they are playing gambling for fun and not for making money.

When I started gambling even I didn't look at the company's terms and services but went straight to gambling in my case I didn't have any problems with the providers I chose could be lucky.

Another point you made regarding playing for fun but not for making money is quite the opposite of what most people will think about it, The ads the I'm seeing about gambling apps is that they show you "A guy made 100 USD and went to a restaurant with his girl", lol

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August 11, 2021, 09:05:37 PM
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You'll never change that fact and idea that there's really a source that can be seen in gambling. But this is only for those people that have been on it for a long time, not for those newbies that just saw how others made huge profit on it and then they'll also think it will be the same for them. And it's already on the gambler how he's going to make himself comfortable as he gambles but just don't blame the casino, it's their business and gambling results are known that the house always win and every lose that we make is already anticipated as this is gambling.

You'll never see gambling as an entertainment unless you're a very wealthy man, that's the truth. Automatically those normal people who play gambling would always be after the profit, they do gambling as a living, that's why gambling also makes a living on them. But we never blame the gambling sites, instead we should blame ourselves, or none at all because what we are doing (keep on trying) means we still do hope we could make a living.

Yes, it's half good and half bad depending on someone's situation.
I agree that's for sure for those people that are wealthy. They only see it as entertainment but many are keep on reiterating that it's only for fun but the reality is there really are those people that go with it as a source because they've experienced it and they're firm in that belief and we cannot change that fact. It is what's not being considered by them as they only say that it's for entertainment but the fact is always there and that's why there are people that got addicted to it and that harm isn't from the casino but it's their decision and has chosen it.

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August 11, 2021, 09:40:53 PM
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Online gambling companies that do not have measures to stop addicts from gambling all of their money should be responsible for anything that happens to them. I think gambling companies should monitor their members deposits and withdrawals and limit them if they think they are in danger of losing more than they can afford.
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August 11, 2021, 10:55:48 PM
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Online gambling companies that do not have measures to stop addicts from gambling all of their money should be responsible for anything that happens to them. I think gambling companies should monitor their members deposits and withdrawals and limit them if they think they are in danger of losing more than they can afford.
The fact that they would really be preferring for those players to get addicted because this simply means that it would really be their advantage since people would really be spending something past into their limits
which means it really an add up revenue for them but if they dont really intent to make people addicted but still its a self will type of action on where people do commit out such mistake or addiction.
Gambling companies shouldnt really be blamed off and i dont see a point on why they would really be trying to resolved out a personal type of problem.
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August 11, 2021, 11:01:35 PM
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Online gambling companies that do not have measures to stop addicts from gambling all of their money should be responsible for anything that happens to them. I think gambling companies should monitor their members deposits and withdrawals and limit them if they think they are in danger of losing more than they can afford.
Every gambling site used to mention gambling is subject to risk and it is their own risk to spend on gambling. Maybe this could make people to linit them in terms of spending. When someone is restricted to spend/deposit he might also move to the next platform. Because, addiction can be controlled only if the user himself is ready.

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