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Author Topic: 1GH/s, 20w, $700 (was $500) — Butterflylabs, is it for real? (Part 2)  (Read 146879 times)
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December 07, 2011, 03:11:22 AM
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@BFL What voltages will your products be able to run off of?

12V PSU


Also, we will be conducting further live demos with Inaba this weekend as our respective schedules permit.  Final performance figures and power consumption will be clarified at that time.

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December 07, 2011, 03:12:10 AM
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Is the product in full production or do we need to wait 6 weeks after ordering?

Orders placed now will be filled within the six week window.

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December 07, 2011, 04:06:58 PM
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...snip...
And furthermore, meeting a known community member in person is far and away more credible than anything that anyone can send in a message or on IRC or in a forum or in an email. FWIW.
I am going to play the devil's advocate but involvement of a "known member of the community" as a neutral and integer witness is a basic prerequisite for a good scam.
Did you people already forget MyBitcoin?
At this point you are all waiting for a positive feedback from Inaba to rush on your Paypal account and purchase BitForce units en masse...
What If Inaba was the con artist?
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December 07, 2011, 04:21:21 PM
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but more importantly, what if Freequant is actually Inaba and is pulling the old double switcheroo ... actually, come to think of it, Freequant is likely Satoshi and using this entire BFL/Inaba/Freequant scam to manipulate the bitcoin market
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December 07, 2011, 04:24:48 PM
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...snip...
And furthermore, meeting a known community member in person is far and away more credible than anything that anyone can send in a message or on IRC or in a forum or in an email. FWIW.
I am going to play the devil's advocate but involvement of a "known member of the community" as a neutral and integer witness is a basic prerequisite for a good scam.
Did you people already forget MyBitcoin?
At this point you are all waiting for a positive feedback from Inaba to rush on your Paypal account and purchase BitForce units en masse...
What If Inaba was the con artist?

I already brought that up in the old thread (although not seriously).

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December 07, 2011, 04:25:42 PM
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...snip...
And furthermore, meeting a known community member in person is far and away more credible than anything that anyone can send in a message or on IRC or in a forum or in an email. FWIW.
I am going to play the devil's advocate but involvement of a "known member of the community" as a neutral and integer witness is a basic prerequisite for a good scam.
Did you people already forget MyBitcoin?
At this point you are all waiting for a positive feedback from Inaba to rush on your Paypal account and purchase BitForce units en masse...
What If Inaba was the con artist?
Indeed, what if gmaxwell, who started this thread, is really the puppet master? His posts have merely been leading everyone else into the scam.  Wow, he is playing chess while we have been playing checkers!  Shocked
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December 07, 2011, 06:18:51 PM
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...snip...
And furthermore, meeting a known community member in person is far and away more credible than anything that anyone can send in a message or on IRC or in a forum or in an email. FWIW.
I am going to play the devil's advocate but involvement of a "known member of the community" as a neutral and integer witness is a basic prerequisite for a good scam.
Did you people already forget MyBitcoin?
At this point you are all waiting for a positive feedback from Inaba to rush on your Paypal account and purchase BitForce units en masse...
What If Inaba was the con artist?
Indeed, what if gmaxwell, who started this thread, is really the puppet master? His posts have merely been leading everyone else into the scam.  Wow, he is playing chess while we have been playing checkers!  Shocked

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December 07, 2011, 06:37:00 PM
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*Passes out complementary tinfoil hats*

  Excuse me, sir. excuseee meeeeeee.  *tugs on your shirt*  Do you happen to have any of those little tin foil cups?  I heard on the Fox News that these units are funded by the commies and designed to track my activities and make my children sterile.....   Undecided

If you're not excited by the idea of being an early adopter 'now', then you should come back in three or four years and either tell us "Told you it'd never work!" or join what should, by then, be a much more stable and easier-to-use system.
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December 07, 2011, 07:15:58 PM
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_I_ am Satoshi Nakamoto.  *stands up*

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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December 07, 2011, 11:35:32 PM
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You guys are irresistibly fun.
After the 70+ pages thread where everybody was trying to shout louder than the neighboor that BFL could only be a scam, you look like the lunatics in an asylum calling each other insane.

My point is that *if* BFL is a scam (in which case it would be a masterpiece), there has to be a con artist.
That would be someone well known on this forum, progressively giving credit to the product while appearing to side with the community.
I have nothing personal against Inaba, but if BFL was a scam, he would be the perfect candidate for the role of the con artist.

Now I am *not* claiming that BFL is a scam nor that Inaba is a con artist (neither am I claiming the contrary).
I am just stressing that if people ever had a strong doubt that this could be a scam, they should especially seek *not* to base their decision solely on the testimony of a seemingly trustable and friendly person coming out of the woodwork to dissipate the doubts on the product.
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December 08, 2011, 12:16:59 AM
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... person coming out of the woodwork ...

Hmm, really?

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December 08, 2011, 12:53:22 AM
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... person coming out of the woodwork ...

Hmm, really?
Satoshi would be out of the woodwork, I think...
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December 08, 2011, 01:13:47 AM
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Just a couple of days to go till the weekend.

BTW, why do all of your demos happen then and not during the working week ? Is this a part time venture or ... ?
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December 08, 2011, 03:45:24 AM
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Hi guys, I thought you might enjoy a screen shot update of the BitForce unit at work.  At this current stage of tweaking, we're getting pool reported speeds from 850 to 970 mh/s.  We'll be making additional adjustments prior to demo this weekend with Inaba so it's reasonable to expect these figures will change.

Our development has been extended due to increased power demands.  The speed of the unit had to be reduced to compensate.  Our current focus is finding the most economical balance between the two prior to finalization & delivery production.

Regards,
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December 08, 2011, 03:52:04 AM
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Hi guys, I thought you might enjoy a screen shot update of the BitForce unit at work.  At this current stage of tweaking, we're getting pool reported speeds from 850 to 970 mh/s.  We'll be making additional adjustments prior to demo this weekend with Inaba so it's reasonable to expect these figures will change.

Our development has been extended due to increased power demands.  The speed of the unit had to be reduced to compensate.  Our current focus is finding the most economical balance between the two prior to finalization & delivery production.

Regards,
BFL

For the few of us that aren't quite as concerned with power usage, will there be a way that we can flash alternate firmwares in order to increase or reduce speed?

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December 08, 2011, 04:03:48 AM
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For the few of us that aren't quite as concerned with power usage, will there be a way that we can flash alternate firmwares in order to increase or reduce speed?
Econo-mode and "Warp-6" for when bitcoin is at $30.

Also, these are standard 80-mm fans correct? That is, if they fail, they can be replaced with a standard 80mm case fan?

Nice screen shot BTW!
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December 08, 2011, 04:38:04 AM
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Hi guys, I thought you might enjoy a screen shot update of the BitForce unit at work.  At this current stage of tweaking, we're getting pool reported speeds from 850 to 970 mh/s.  We'll be making additional adjustments prior to demo this weekend with Inaba so it's reasonable to expect these figures will change.
You can change the averaging window of pool's luckmeter at "Advanced" settings page. Setting it to 40 or even 60 minutes can give much better result than 10 minutes.

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December 08, 2011, 06:07:32 AM
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That's hot, thanks for the update.

  Btw, are us dumb Americans the only ones that still use the month/day/year format?  It still throws me off for a second to see the the day/month/year even though it is much more common every where else it seems.


  Cheers

If you're not excited by the idea of being an early adopter 'now', then you should come back in three or four years and either tell us "Told you it'd never work!" or join what should, by then, be a much more stable and easier-to-use system.
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December 08, 2011, 06:37:01 AM
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That's hot, thanks for the update.

  Btw, are us dumb Americans the only ones that still use the month/day/year format?  It still throws me off for a second to see the the day/month/year even though it is much more common every where else it seems.


  Cheers

Americans also do not use the metric system. Everyone else does but Burma and Ivory Coast I think:)

  Aye, for every day stuff. Its fuggin annoying. As soon as we do any kind of surveying, molecular engeering work, etc etc, there is no reason not to use metric. But yet we insist on having fuggin 'standard' rulers handed out to all our school children. Dirves me nuts. Which also come in 'American' and Metric here. >.<

If you're not excited by the idea of being an early adopter 'now', then you should come back in three or four years and either tell us "Told you it'd never work!" or join what should, by then, be a much more stable and easier-to-use system.
- GA

It is being worked on by smart people.  -DamienBlack
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December 08, 2011, 09:55:29 AM
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Hi guys, I thought you might enjoy a screen shot update of the BitForce unit at work. 

why don't you let a unit work for 1 or 2 days on deepbit and post here the full screen shot of https://deepbit.net/account with the right column of stats and the https://deepbit.net/stats page, that way we can see it's been up and running and how it's performing.

Right now one can only guess your unit has been up for 10 minutes at 946 MHz (with some earlier activity to generate the 0.085 BTC) as conveniently you don't include the 24h stats column (which is fuel for speculation of course ;-)
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