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November 05, 2021, 04:03:14 AM
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When posed with that question, the camp of Caleb might have a hard time thinking of a specific boxing ability or quality of their fighter which makes him better than Canelo. They would neither reveal their strategy in taking up against Canelo. That's probably why they just give a somewhat vague answer in saying they are fully prepared and ready. I agree though. They cannot be less than 100% ready in facing Canelo. Canelo has everything to defeat Caleb.

This is very important for both fighters and Caleb opted not to give any hint on what he is going to do, it's better that way that you left your opponent guessing what you are going to do, he might have a change of strategy or style and he wants to keep it until the start of the round, whatever change of strategy I still have Canelo winning but I never rule out an upset or a surprise coming from Plant.

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November 05, 2021, 04:17:22 AM
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That dream fight already happened, in fact, they had already faced each other twice and in the 2nd fight, it was Canelo who won the fight. We know a trilogy would be an exciting one, but we should respect if Canelo does not want it anymore, besides, he is still dominating in his division and has nothing to prove anymore.

A trilogy with GGG may not be too exciting anymore for me as GGG has declined a lot due to age obviously while Canelo is in his prime at the moment. We might see another Pacman vs Ugas where the older fighter could hardly move  Grin.

This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.



This fight might not finish to a decision, I reckon. Canelo Alvarez round range to win on rounds 7-9 is 4.20 and win during rounds 10-12 is 4.80 in sportsbet.io appears to be very good odds. Canelo for a knockout win is only 1.56. This is telling us that the chance is bigger for a knockout than a decision.

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November 05, 2021, 06:01:30 AM
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Winner & round range is more exciting to bet as no one would put a bet on Canelo for 1.09 odds only.
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November 05, 2021, 10:57:26 PM
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Let see if these two fighters will bring us the entertainment that we deserve to have Wink
AFAIK, all the fights of Alvarez are entertaining, including his fight against Mayweather where he was totally schooled.

Schooled? That's not an appropriate thought because Canelo is just in his early years of boxing when he fought Mayweather. Lack of experience and don't have yet some of the special moves. If they will fight on prime, Canelo has the chance to beat Mayweather.

On the topic, it seems that some boxing analysts consider Caleb Plant can take a chance to win the fight. Maybe they are referring to both boxer's current training regimes.
That was Mayweather being himself, we know that Mayweather always tried to find some way to get an advantage over his opponents, so he realized that if he did not fought Canelo at that time and waited until Canelo was on his prime then he will be too old and he could lose the fight, but by fighting Canelo when he was still yet to reach his prime he got the win, kept his undefeated record intact and he could brag about it forever even if we know the truth of what happened.
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November 05, 2021, 11:18:28 PM
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That was Mayweather being himself, we know that Mayweather always tried to find some way to get an advantage over his opponents, so he realized that if he did not fought Canelo at that time and waited until Canelo was on his prime then he will be too old and he could lose the fight, but by fighting Canelo when he was still yet to reach his prime he got the win, kept his undefeated record intact and he could brag about it forever even if we know the truth of what happened.
I know there are many who wanted to see Floyd Mayweather loose, but he was too good a boxer that no one was able to defeat him. When Canelo Álvarez faced Floyd Mayweather, Canelo already fought 43 times professionally and you think that was not an experience even after fighting 43 times before facing Mayweather and Mayweather was 36 years of age, in fight terms well passed his prime and still was able to defeat a young up and coming talent which says a lot of the skills set.

That said Canelo Álvarez is the best boxer right now and there is no one who could pose a challenge other than Gennady Golovkin and these two fighters are well above everyone else in terms of skill level.
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November 05, 2021, 11:29:51 PM
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This fight might not finish to a decision, I reckon. Canelo Alvarez round range to win on rounds 7-9 is 4.20 and win during rounds 10-12 is 4.80 in sportsbet.io appears to be very good odds. Canelo for a knockout win is only 1.56. This is telling us that the chance is bigger for a knockout than a decision.

I don't think it will end in a decision unless Plant chooses to run and refuse to engage, Saunders did a good job avoiding Canelo's big punch in the early rounds but eventually got caught in the latter rounds, Canelo is so good at sizing up his opponents and working on the distance, Plant should do better in the counterpunch, and being the taller man he should use his reach and height advantage because he will have big issues when Canelo start connecting.
Because of the bloodbath between the two, it'll definitely end in a knockout of course I'll go for Canelo, he's a complete fighter.
 

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November 05, 2021, 11:42:02 PM
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When posed with that question, the camp of Caleb might have a hard time thinking of a specific boxing ability or quality of their fighter which makes him better than Canelo. They would neither reveal their strategy in taking up against Canelo. That's probably why they just give a somewhat vague answer in saying they are fully prepared and ready. I agree though. They cannot be less than 100% ready in facing Canelo. Canelo has everything to defeat Caleb.

Hard time thinking what will be the answer? I think that's not it. The question is non-sense. Why should a camp reveal in public the advantage of their boxer? Let the talking do on the boxing ring. That question is not appropriate that's why it looks like Caleb Plant's camp didn't react right away to the question.

If Canelo's camp will be questioned like that, I think they will have the same response.

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November 05, 2021, 11:55:56 PM
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The weigh-in and the face-off are very intense, they are not allowed a close face-off and both fighters are ignoring the request of one of the promoters to turn around and face the crowd they just continue to thrash talk each other, even the crowd are also intense shouting USA and Mexico this will be very exciting.


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November 06, 2021, 01:28:06 AM
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The weigh-in and the face-off are very intense, they are not allowed a close face-off and both fighters are ignoring the request of one of the promoters to turn around and face the crowd they just continue to thrash talk each other, even the crowd are also intense shouting USA and Mexico this will be very exciting.


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Yep, both parties are alive in this face-off, Caleb has his own fan base and so is Canelo. But it's obvious, that Canelo has a lot of fans in that stadium.

Caleb looks intense but at the same time very confident as well that he will make history tomorrow night. But I've heard there are still tickets but very selective tickets are only available, (maybe the price is very high and only VIP can afford it). I haven't put my bet yet to be honest, I'm thinking that maybe, just maybe Caleb will have that small chance to create an upset.

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November 06, 2021, 01:36:37 AM
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^^ Indeed it was very intense, the adrenaline rush for this fighter are insane, they really wanted to get each other's heads-off.

But as the saying goes, once the bell ring, it will only be this 2 fighters, no fans, no trainers to help them out. Maybe Caleb can be good in the first couple of rounds and the fight be as competitive. But Canelo is a cerebral fighter and he will use his boxing IQ. And it will be really hard for Caleb, I don't think he has the power to knock down Alvarez if he touches him. Canelo's chin is one of the best in the middleweight, never been broken by anyone, not even GGG.

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November 06, 2021, 01:39:57 AM
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^^ Indeed it was very intense, the adrenaline rush for this fighter are insane, they really wanted to get each other's heads-off.

But as the saying goes, once the bell ring, it will only be this 2 fighters, no fans, no trainers to help them out. Maybe Caleb can be good in the first couple of rounds and the fight be as competitive. But Canelo is a cerebral fighter and he will use his boxing IQ. And it will be really hard for Caleb, I don't think he has the power to knock down Alvarez if he touches him. Canelo's chin is one of the best in the middleweight, never been broken by anyone, not even GGG.

They hated with each other whatever the outcome of the match I don't think these two will shake hands and both fighters can only accept wins they will not settle for a loss, I'm sure both fighters don't want to end the war in the judges' hands and will see to it that it will end a knockout, just like what we've seen in the Wilder-Fury fight, I hope it will live to the hype.
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November 06, 2021, 01:49:26 AM
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When posed with that question, the camp of Caleb might have a hard time thinking of a specific boxing ability or quality of their fighter which makes him better than Canelo. They would neither reveal their strategy in taking up against Canelo. That's probably why they just give a somewhat vague answer in saying they are fully prepared and ready. I agree though. They cannot be less than 100% ready in facing Canelo. Canelo has everything to defeat Caleb.

Hard time thinking what will be the answer? I think that's not it. The question is non-sense. Why should a camp reveal in public the advantage of their boxer? Let the talking do on the boxing ring. That question is not appropriate that's why it looks like Caleb Plant's camp didn't react right away to the question.

If Canelo's camp will be questioned like that, I think they will have the same response.

They will only do this to intimidate the other party, it will work if we have two fighters trying to prove themselves but these two already champion unifying the belt, I don't think there will be a discussion of their fight plan, they both want to surprise each other, I see Caleb trying to employ a new strategy to counter Canelo.
Both fighters have great game plans, they both have good camps and it will just go to who can implement the game plan better.

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November 06, 2021, 04:59:21 AM
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They hated with each other whatever the outcome of the match I don't think these two will shake hands and both fighters can only accept wins they will not settle for a loss, I'm sure both fighters don't want to end the war in the judges' hands and will see to it that it will end a knockout, just like what we've seen in the Wilder-Fury fight, I hope it will live to the hype.

Since they are both expected to be on rampage mode, especially on the part of Canelo, I hope that won't have an effect on their fighting strategy. The more the boxer is pissed off, the more the concentration will be lessened as they are overwhelmed by their revenge. It's good to be aggressive but should be in control and not just to have a goal to crash down the opponent at any cost.

Well, these boxers are both experienced ones. I'm sure they will fight professionally as a boxer and not because they need to revenge something.

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November 06, 2021, 07:19:46 AM
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^^ Indeed it was very intense, the adrenaline rush for this fighter are insane, they really wanted to get each other's heads-off.

But as the saying goes, once the bell ring, it will only be this 2 fighters, no fans, no trainers to help them out. Maybe Caleb can be good in the first couple of rounds and the fight be as competitive. But Canelo is a cerebral fighter and he will use his boxing IQ. And it will be really hard for Caleb, I don't think he has the power to knock down Alvarez if he touches him. Canelo's chin is one of the best in the middleweight, never been broken by anyone, not even GGG.

Rounds 1 up to 3 will certainly be for Caleb Plant. Canelo starts much of his fights very slow while he downloads much of his opponents’ strategy. Floyd Mayweather is like this, also Terence Crawford and other similarly good boxers. This will be Canelo for the knockout before round 10.

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^^ Indeed it was very intense, the adrenaline rush for this fighter are insane, they really wanted to get each other's heads-off.

But as the saying goes, once the bell ring, it will only be this 2 fighters, no fans, no trainers to help them out. Maybe Caleb can be good in the first couple of rounds and the fight be as competitive. But Canelo is a cerebral fighter and he will use his boxing IQ. And it will be really hard for Caleb, I don't think he has the power to knock down Alvarez if he touches him. Canelo's chin is one of the best in the middleweight, never been broken by anyone, not even GGG.

Rounds 1 up to 3 will certainly be for Caleb Plant. Canelo starts much of his fights very slow while he downloads much of his opponents’ strategy. Floyd Mayweather is like this, also Terence Crawford and other similarly good boxers. This will be Canelo for the knockout before round 10.
I agree, Canelo is a slow starter, even BJS finds success early and we though that he has a chance to an an upset. But once Canelo settles down in the fight and find Plant's weaknesses, like moving more on his right when he throws punch, or even his foot placement.  So yes, I agree with your prediction that this wouldn't last 12 rounds and Canelo making history as the first undisputed super middleweight in the 4 division era.

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November 06, 2021, 10:21:24 AM
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^^ Indeed it was very intense, the adrenaline rush for this fighter are insane, they really wanted to get each other's heads-off.

But as the saying goes, once the bell ring, it will only be this 2 fighters, no fans, no trainers to help them out. Maybe Caleb can be good in the first couple of rounds and the fight be as competitive. But Canelo is a cerebral fighter and he will use his boxing IQ. And it will be really hard for Caleb, I don't think he has the power to knock down Alvarez if he touches him. Canelo's chin is one of the best in the middleweight, never been broken by anyone, not even GGG.

Rounds 1 up to 3 will certainly be for Caleb Plant. Canelo starts much of his fights very slow while he downloads much of his opponents’ strategy. Floyd Mayweather is like this, also Terence Crawford and other similarly good boxers. This will be Canelo for the knockout before round 10.
I agree, Canelo is a slow starter, even BJS finds success early and we though that he has a chance to an an upset. But once Canelo settles down in the fight and find Plant's weaknesses, like moving more on his right when he throws punch, or even his foot placement.  So yes, I agree with your prediction that this wouldn't last 12 rounds and Canelo making history as the first undisputed super middleweight in the 4 division era.

But maybe Canelo will be a different animal in this fight and will start hot and wanted to push Caleb Plant from the very first round. And will continue up to the middle and maybe take him out before round 10 and score a body punch knock out or upper cut, hehehe.

So yeah, I'm not seeing a 12 round here, Canelo is too good and will be too much for Caleb. Caleb is good but he hasn't face a fighter like Canelo, complete and in his prime.

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November 06, 2021, 11:09:32 AM
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The fight is already tomorrow night right?

I haven't bet yet but it seems the majority is going for Canelo to win before 10 rounds, and it's 1.86 currently. So I guess this is still very attractive.

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Not sure if there will be someone who are going to bet on Caleb here for an upset win.
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Rounds 1 up to 3 will certainly be for Caleb Plant. Canelo starts much of his fights very slow while he downloads much of his opponents’ strategy. Floyd Mayweather is like this, also Terence Crawford and other similarly good boxers. This will be Canelo for the knockout before round 10.
I agree, Canelo is a slow starter, even BJS finds success early and we though that he has a chance to an an upset. But once Canelo settles down in the fight and find Plant's weaknesses, like moving more on his right when he throws punch, or even his foot placement.  So yes, I agree with your prediction that this wouldn't last 12 rounds and Canelo making history as the first undisputed super middleweight in the 4 division era.


But maybe Canelo will be a different animal in this fight and will start hot and wanted to push Caleb Plant from the very first round. And will continue up to the middle and maybe take him out before round 10 and score a body punch knock out or upper cut, hehehe.

So yeah, I'm not seeing a 12 round here, Canelo is too good and will be too much for Caleb. Caleb is good but he hasn't face a fighter like Canelo, complete and in his prime.

It's not Canelo's style he is a slow starter sizing up his opponent first and checking if he can take his punch, and how hard the opponent's punch, a sign of a great technical fighter who can adjust very well in every circumstances, the first three rounds they are going to size up each other and on wards they will adjust and who has a good gameplan and can execute better than the other will win the battle.

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But maybe Canelo will be a different animal in this fight and will start hot and wanted to push Caleb Plant from the very first round. And will continue up to the middle and maybe take him out before round 10 and score a body punch knock out or upper cut, hehehe.

So yeah, I'm not seeing a 12 round here, Canelo is too good and will be too much for Caleb. Caleb is good but he hasn't face a fighter like Canelo, complete and in his prime.

Haha, got a feeling too that if the opportunity presents itself, Canelo would go for the knockout in the early rounds but hope it won't happen and instead he would punish Caleb Plant the whole twelve rounds   Smiley.

I don't know if it's just to sell the fight but it seems that Canelo was affected by the trash-talking of Plant, this might have an effect on him in the fight.
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November 06, 2021, 11:51:29 AM
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The fight is already tomorrow night right?

I haven't bet yet but it seems the majority is going for Canelo to win before 10 rounds, and it's 1.86 currently. So I guess this is still very attractive.

Plant ML - 7.00
Canelo ML - 1.09.

Not sure if there will be someone who are going to bet on Caleb here for an upset win.

That's really attractive if only he is not fighting Canelo, I guess there are still bettors who put money on Caleb but they are just probably gambling for fun because you know, anything can happen in boxing and upset do happen sometimes. With 7.00 odds, that would give a huge return of our bet, maybe just a spare amount is enough for that low chance odds of winning.

However, if you like big odds, maybe try to bet on Canelo and predict what round the fight will be over.
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