Covid-19 vaccination becoming a criteria to live in the world

[Gozie51]

I now see a situation that the world is changing and is coming to a level where if you don't have a covid-19 vaccination clearence or means to verify that you have been vaccinated or have received the latest jab of the vaccine, you won't be allowed to buy or sell. I had in my mind that face mask was going to play this "devil's advocate" but no, the vaccination is getting serious with huge restrictions and therefore looking like it is the devil's advocate.

Apart from the many countries that have been making public statement about the need and compulsory nature of taking the vaccine, I heard in the news barely 24 hours ago about America making it mandatory for big company owners to be vaccinated and show a prove of vaccination of their employees. This is more serious with America taking such steps to ensure compliance , more countries will follow this direction and gradually it will get to smaller businesses, SMEs and then to restrictions on entering banks, malls, fuels stations and etc which will replace face mask. Covid-19 Vaccination is becoming a serious phenomenon and even in Africa and Nigeria, it has started gaining grounds even as the doubt of its existence or and severity is still in doubt from larger percentage of the population.

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[Kong Hey Pakboy]

That's actually a good thing because that only means that countries are much more serious when it comes to trying to obliterate the pandemic once and for all, the only problem is that the idiot ant-vaxxers that's trying to hinder the progress towards herd immunity.

[dothebeats]

There's no other way around it unfortunately. It's either you get vaccinated and return to work safely, while protecting other people who cannot take it at the moment or be one with those who can take it but chose not to since they believe it's a way for the government to "track" you. The goal of the vaccine is to limit the severity of the disease when you get infected, and to protect other people through herd immunity. While I despise their way of trying to get people vaccinated, part of me thinks this is a necessary step if we want to get our lives back to pre-pandemic state.

[The Cryptovator]

I am not sure if the post is the incorrect section or should move into Off-Topic.

However, for me, a kind of fear was on my mind always before vaccinations when I went outside for needs. Once got both doses of vaccine then the fear of effect in COVID-19 has been reducing. So it's a good thing if the government mandates vaccinations. But the condition is they have to make sure they can manage vaccines for all the population of the country. If not then it's not useful to give restrictions. It will then just be harassment. I think it's not a problem for developed countries like the USA. But for the poor country still not getting enough vaccines. Even a few developed countries citizens getting booster dose but poor countries citizens haven't got single dose yet.

[Lucius]

At first, they tried to intimidate people as if it were a plague that would kill half the world, and now when they see how few people actually want to be vaccinated when we talk about developed countries (with some exceptions), and now they have no choice but to to move to the second phase, denial of employment and access to basic human needs such as shops, health facilities, public institutions.

For me, this is insane behavior because it encroaches on basic human freedoms by forcing people to be vaccinated with a drug that by all medical and scientific criteria is still in the experimental phase and its long-term effects are not known.

I'm not surprised by Biden's move, because it's something that has existed in the EU for a long time - let's say the example of my country where the government said that no company that does not have at least 70% of the vaccinated will receive financial support from the state, and Greece, Germany and France are also implementing radical measures to force people to get vaccinated.

Soon the world could be divided into those who are vaccinated and those who are not, and perhaps those who are not vaccinated will have to be publicly marked - it reminds me a bit of the segregation carried out by the Nazis against Jews, or the black population by whites in the US.

[mindrust]

You can always join the rebellion against these tyrants and tell them to go fuck themselves. It is not really that hard.

Dump your big house that eats away half of your monthly income, get a smaller car, eat less and you'll be able to survive through this mess even without a job.

If you want to comply because you don't want to move from your comfort zone, then get ready to be vaxxed forever and end up a genetically modified bio-mess.

[meanwords]

That's just how it is. The Covid-19 virus is just too powerful for people who doesn't have that much immunity, especially in this era where unhealthy lifestyle is pretty common. I can understand them because If the countries aren't strict with vaccination, there's a chance that another surge of patients would appear. It's not like it's a huge problem though. You still have a choice to either quit your job or get vaccinated and it's not like it's going to be forever because this pandemic will eventually end some day.

[agustina2]

Before it's not mandatory to have a vaccine. Today, it's almost close to mandatory because a non-vaccinated person is not allowed at some established. There are resorts here in our country that a proof we are vaccinated is necessary requirement.

What do you think of that. Is that a form of discrimination in a legit way? I myself already have a vaccine but that's because it's mandatory to our work. I don't like to be vaccinated.

[qwertyup23]

I now see a situation that the world is changing and is coming to a level where if you don't have a covid-19 vaccination clearence or means to verify that you have been vaccinated or have received the latest jab of the vaccine, you won't be allowed to buy or sell. I had in my mind that face mask was going to play this "devil's advocate" but no, the vaccination is getting serious with huge restrictions and therefore looking like it is the devil's advocate.

The government cannot compel its citizens to get vaccinated as it will constitute involuntary servitude, but the former can impose restrictions that would somehow force its citizens to get vaccinated. For example, they could limit the movement of people who are not vaccinated by requiring malls or any other services to show their vaccine cards as proof.

Remember that this pandemic has moved the entire world due to impact of COVID in our health. If the people are against getting vaccinated, they are actually going against Science itself. That is why, the priority of the government would always be our health as this would also impact an economic crisis in the country.

[CapGelatik]

Before it's not mandatory to have a vaccine. Today, it's almost close to mandatory because a non-vaccinated person is not allowed at some established. There are resorts here in our country that a proof we are vaccinated is necessary requirement.

What do you think of that. Is that a form of discrimination in a legit way? I myself already have a vaccine but that's because it's mandatory to our work. I don't like to be vaccinated.

Indeed, until now it is still a debate when vaccination becomes a requirement for something and is related to administration,
Actually, the government's goal is good, but it must be realized that it is not easy to change someone who initially does not want to be vaccinated into one who wants to be vaccinated.

[Dragonfund]

Let's put the propaganda aside for a moment and focus on the positive consequences. The government's job is to ensure that every citizen is secure and properly protected; they don't want one person's life to risk another's, which is why they want you and me to get vaccinated so that everyone is safe.
The difficulty I'm having with this vaccination is the method of administration; I still don't like the notion of injections. I don't want any fluid generated from anywhere in my body system, and the problem of side effects is still being ignored; I wouldn't take any vacation if it isn't addressed, and I can't take a vaccination that will make me sick at the end of the day.

[Silberman]

That's actually a good thing because that only means that countries are much more serious when it comes to trying to obliterate the pandemic once and for all, the only problem is that the idiot ant-vaxxers that's trying to hinder the progress towards herd immunity.

The issue is not as simple as you make it out to be, this is a classic case of individual rights and what society expects out of you, I have taken the vaccine and I would appreciate if the majority took the vaccine as well, but if you force people to take the vaccine then you are trampling on their rights, so the question is as what point society can do something like this and void the right to decide that people have over their own bodies? And this is not by any means an easy debate to have.

[Fortify]

I now see a situation that the world is changing and is coming to a level where if you don't have a covid-19 vaccination clearence or means to verify that you have been vaccinated or have received the latest jab of the vaccine, you won't be allowed to buy or sell. I had in my mind that face mask was going to play this "devil's advocate" but no, the vaccination is getting serious with huge restrictions and therefore looking like it is the devil's advocate.

Apart from the many countries that have been making public statement about the need and compulsory nature of taking the vaccine, I heard in the news barely 24 hours ago about America making it mandatory for big company owners to be vaccinated and show a prove of vaccination of their employees. This is more serious with America taking such steps to ensure compliance , more countries will follow this direction and gradually it will get to smaller businesses, SMEs and then to restrictions on entering banks, malls, fuels stations and etc which will replace face mask. Covid-19 Vaccination is becoming a serious phenomenon and even in Africa and Nigeria, it has started gaining grounds even as the doubt of its existence or and severity is still in doubt from larger percentage of the population.

It was almost inevitable from the start and how it should be really. Unless you have a medical reason for avoiding the vaccination, you are making the solution harder to achieve - which is wiping out the virus by preventing the spread. It will take a long time and likely many mutations, but eventually enough people will have built up an immune defense that hopefully the virus will eventually come to an evolutionary dead end. Right now the toughest challenge is getting the poorest countries vaccinated quickly because they are the most densely populated areas and prone to causing mutant variations due to the environment. There needs to be a final push by richer countries to donate vaccines, because until everyone is safe - no one is safe.

[V-t.Ester]

Well, everything is very complicated with Covid-19 and vaccinations against it. There are too many questions and no answers on them. Governments just make an across-the-board vaccination of everyone. But, why they vaccinate people that easily suffered the disease and get immunity? Why they vaccinate people that hardly suffered the disease and finally get  immunity? Why they vaccinate people that were sick without symptoms? Why they vaccinate people that have positive IGg tests (IgG antibodies remain in the blood after an infection has passed. These antibodies indicate that you may have had COVID-19 in the recent past and have developed antibodies that may protect you from future infection.)? Why this entire people also need to be vaccinated? I don’t understand. I don’t mind vaccination but not in the way they do it. This way seems strange that’s why cause very diverse thoughts especially among conspiracy theorists.

[Natalim]

I now see a situation that the world is changing and is coming to a level where if you don't have a covid-19 vaccination clearence or means to verify that you have been vaccinated or have received the latest jab of the vaccine, you won't be allowed to buy or sell. I had in my mind that face mask was going to play this "devil's advocate" but no, the vaccination is getting serious with huge restrictions and therefore looking like it is the devil's advocate.

Apart from the many countries that have been making public statement about the need and compulsory nature of taking the vaccine, I heard in the news barely 24 hours ago about America making it mandatory for big company owners to be vaccinated and show a prove of vaccination of their employees. This is more serious with America taking such steps to ensure compliance , more countries will follow this direction and gradually it will get to smaller businesses, SMEs and then to restrictions on entering banks, malls, fuels stations and etc which will replace face mask. Covid-19 Vaccination is becoming a serious phenomenon and even in Africa and Nigeria, it has started gaining grounds even as the doubt of its existence or and severity is still in doubt from larger percentage of the population.

It was almost inevitable from the start and how it should be really. Unless you have a medical reason for avoiding the vaccination, you are making the solution harder to achieve - which is wiping out the virus by preventing the spread. It will take a long time and likely many mutations, but eventually enough people will have built up an immune defense that hopefully the virus will eventually come to an evolutionary dead end. Right now the toughest challenge is getting the poorest countries vaccinated quickly because they are the most densely populated areas and prone to causing mutant variations due to the environment. There needs to be a final push by richer countries to donate vaccines, because until everyone is safe - no one is safe.

Even in my country, covid-19 vaccines run out easily so that is why individuals are always encouraged to get vaccinated before all the supplies will be totally gone. But there are still group of people who have been hard headed not to take the vaccine due to their unreasonable alibis. So even if most of the citizens are vaccinated, still the environment is not totally safe unless all the people decide to get vaccinated.

There are news coming out that vaccines in the future will be the criteria already if you can go outside your house or better yet stay at home. If you are fully vaccinated, then you are free to go to the malls,banks and parks, but if you are not fully vaccinated, then you are not allowed to go anywhere.

[chichigirl]

It is very frustrating for me to see that government and some companies monopolizing people thru required vaccination. This Covid will make the whole earth put in poverty. First it penalized the economy and lessen the salary. People are dying from the virus and debts are growing fast.

[Viscore]

That's actually a good thing because that only means that countries are much more serious when it comes to trying to obliterate the pandemic once and for all, the only problem is that the idiot ant-vaxxers that's trying to hinder the progress towards herd immunity.

The issue is not as simple as you make it out to be, this is a classic case of individual rights and what society expects out of you, I have taken the vaccine and I would appreciate if the majority took the vaccine as well, but if you force people to take the vaccine then you are trampling on their rights, so the question is as what point society can do something like this and void the right to decide that people have over their own bodies? And this is not by any means an easy debate to have.

Well forcing someone to get vaccinated is already depriving them from their human right. The government is really serious in encouraging everyone to get vaccinated so that the disease will be prevented from spreading it but it does not stated in the law that it is mandatory and so everyone should comply.

However, with the latest implementations from the government, vaccine becomes a criteria to live in the world and those who can enjoy it and those who can't. So it is becoming unfair now to those who don't want to take the vaccine although its really necessary to get vaccinated as to stay away from the deadly virus.

[verita1]

In my country Venezuela, the Covid19 vaccine is mandatory to travel from one state to another. I do not know of another restriction if I know of another one at some point I will kindly update my comment with another post. I have already been vaccinated with my first dose of Sinopharm vaccine, I did not have any unpleasant side reactions just dry mouth.

Guys, we must promote the vaccine. If we do not vaccinate all, the virus will not disappear and we will have the appearance of strains and more dangerous. In addition, our countries are investing a lot of money in vaccines to guarantee our health.

[CaVO32]

In my country Venezuela, the Covid19 vaccine is mandatory to travel from one state to another. I do not know of another restriction if I know of another one at some point I will kindly update my comment with another post. I have already been vaccinated with my first dose of Sinopharm vaccine, I did not have any unpleasant side reactions just dry mouth.

Guys, we must promote the vaccine. If we do not vaccinate all, the virus will not disappear and we will have the appearance of strains and more dangerous. In addition, our countries are investing a lot of money in vaccines to guarantee our health.

Some governments are making it as mandatory, as they think this is the only way to contain further infection. Without achieving high percentage of immunity, the population is at stake. And with varying variants that are coming out, being vaccinated is one good option to develop immunity. And I believe, the government has somehow valid point on this. But it still depends on the person himself if he wants to or not, because that's his body.

[Trojane]

They choose to make it the hard way, creating castigatory measures on the few that refuse to get vaccinated.
Well, i don't really know how safe it is to get vaccinated because people that had gotten vaccinated the last time posted videos clips on how piece of iron or metallic materials magnets to their skin .sounds awkward right
Maybe it has some kinda chip in there,who knows
But all we need is safety and efficiency from it.
Trojane💎