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[4444sport.com]

[Dripstoil]

Design looks clean and smooth but what does the 4444 in your name stands for? There's going to be much confusions with the name. A lot of typographic errors from people typing 444 instead of 4444 and typing Sports in place of Sport. Did you give thoughts to all that before choosing your name?

I'm asking because traffic leakages is a big deal in any online business, that's why people invest a lot of money to acquire fine names that has little or no ambiguities.

[TimeTeller]

Design looks clean and smooth but what does the 4444 in your name stand for?

Yes, that's interesting number to name for a sportsbook
Is there a significance to the owner why they chose those numbers?

By the way, welcome to the forum.
I see that you already have your license from Costa Rica.
And also, this is one of the sportsbooks that I've seen here allowing the use of VPN, which is good for those users who want to use VPN.
And are you going to add more cryptocurrencies in the future aside from bitcoin?

[RapTarX]

I can't see Cricket anywhere in the announcement nor in the website. I don't know why most bookies launches without cricket having as an option while it's popular in India which is the most populous country. Apart from that, there are few more countries as well.
Why don’t you consider adding cricket? I liked that you are accepting crypto and no KYC is there. I will have an eye on this thread.

[ratas]

hello, good layout


no table tennis ?

[notblox1]

Welcome to bitcointalk forum, and please tell us if you are official from 4444sport?
I would also like to know if there are any withdrawal fees and what is minimum withdrawal amount?

My first impressions are fine and I see you are offering many sports including MMA but I have not tested how it works.
It would be good idea to create some promotional campaign in forum or competition for free bets, so that people can test how your website works.

[Slow death]

your site is very simple and practical, i saw that on your site you wrote "Football" instead of "soccer", won't that confuse people? as I speak Portuguese, we always say: soccerl "but I see that for those who speak English they say "soccer", maybe you should put soccer on so that people don't get confused

[romero121]

Welcome to bitcointalk forum, and please tell us if you are official from 4444sport?
I would also like to know if there are any withdrawal fees and what is minimum withdrawal amount?

My first impressions are fine and I see you are offering many sports including MMA but I have not tested how it works.
It would be good idea to create some promotional campaign in forum or competition for free bets, so that people can test how your website works.

Providing some free bets through competition and paying on their respective accounts will make few users test the platform. Also this will increase the trust over the platform. Dedicated platform for sports betting without kyc is good. Addition of few more top cryptocurrencies seems to be a requirement, because most of the gambling platforms give access for more number of cryptocurrencies.

[Sirait]

I open 4444sport.com very lightly on my pc and maybe because this site doesn't use 'bet' or the like in front of the domain, it's not banned in my country. In order to get large visitors, you have to do strong marketing. good luck with your site.

[Dripstoil]

your site is very simple and practical, i saw that on your site you wrote "Football" instead of "soccer", won't that confuse people? as I speak Portuguese, we always say: soccerl "but I see that for those who speak English they say "soccer", maybe you should put soccer on so that people don't get confused

The best name for any invention, product, or services is the name the inventor/ producer gave to it. The game is called "Football" by the English who are the originators.  That's the correct name. Whatever the rest of us decided to call it is our own business.

[bitgov]

Welcome to Bitcointalk!

- Cryptocurrency accepted
- No KYC required
- VPN accepted
- License is there

It looks like we have a bookmaker that gives everything that cryptocurrency service should have.

Website loads quickly, it is very intuitive, i.e. user friendly. At first glance, this is a great platform for me!

[4444sport.com]

Yes I am the representative of the 4444sport. We appreciate your kind feedback! In regards with the game events we are only dependent to our provider and the sports we offer is based on their software, the Table Tennis is available but it is not live at the moment.

We choose 4444 since we are trying to be unique, we noticed that many names that contains numbers were already taken and we think that 4444 is easy to remember.

We would appreciate to hear any ideas or suggestions on the possibilities to promote our gambling site here.

[Mahdirakib]

Welcome to the forum. I just created an account. Bitcoin is the only deposit method now, but the site has only two option to display, either USD or EURO. So our deposit will automatically converted into any of those currency. It would be better if it was crypto based only without converting our deposits.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Yes I am the representative of the 4444sport. We appreciate your kind feedback! In regards with the game events we are only dependent to our provider and the sports we offer is based on their software, the Table Tennis is available but it is not live at the moment.

We choose 4444 since we are trying to be unique, we noticed that many names that contains numbers were already taken and we think that 4444 is easy to remember.

We would appreciate to hear any ideas or suggestions on the possibilities to promote our gambling site here.

The name is fine in my opinion. It is actually easy to remember.

The unofficial tradition of new gambling platforms here on Bitcointalk is to give bonuses or kind of free bets to test the site and get feedback from the community Maybe think about something like this  

[4444sport.com]

Welcome to bitcointalk forum, and please tell us if you are official from 4444sport?
I would also like to know if there are any withdrawal fees and what is minimum withdrawal amount?

There is no withdrawal fee and there is no minimum withdrawal amount, the 4444sport will cover the transaction fee of all its players.

[Haunebu]

Checked your site out and liked the design and UI overall. Performance is fine too. I like the 'No KYC' policy which implies that you did your research. Take your time adding more cryptocurrencies since there is no withdrawal fee associated with BTC as you mentioned op.

There is no withdrawal fee and there is no minimum withdrawal amount, the 4444sport will cover the transaction fee of all its players.

Epic. Very few crypto gambling sites charge zero withdrawal fees which is why I applaud this decision op. However, I have no idea why there is no minimum withdrawal amount.

Some gamblers could withdraw a couple of cents regularly causing you losses which is why I advise setting a minimum withdrawal amount(Eg: $5 etc).

[AmoreJaz]

Checked your site out and liked the design and UI overall. Performance is fine too. I like the 'No KYC' policy which implies that you did your research. Take your time adding more cryptocurrencies since there is no withdrawal fee associated with BTC as you mentioned op.

There is no withdrawal fee and there is no minimum withdrawal amount, the 4444sport will cover the transaction fee of all its players.

Epic. Very few crypto gambling sites charge zero withdrawal fees which is why I applaud this decision op. However, I have no idea why there is no minimum withdrawal amount.

Some gamblers could withdraw a couple of cents regularly causing you losses which is why I advise setting a minimum withdrawal amount(Eg: $5 etc).

i can agree with your suggestion, because if your withdrawal is free, you would really incur losses because players will get their withdrawal back to their btc address as per this item 7.4 in your terms & conditions. so what if the network is congested? you may end up paying good amount of satoshis for tx fee vs the actual withdrawal amount of the player. this is just for you to think about and set your minimum limits of withdrawal. so people will not expect something that you promised.

https://4444sport.com/pages/tac

[bitgov]

There is no withdrawal fee and there is no minimum withdrawal amount, the 4444sport will cover the transaction fee of all its players.

Epic. Very few crypto gambling sites charge zero withdrawal fees which is why I applaud this decision op. However, I have no idea why there is no minimum withdrawal amount.

Some gamblers could withdraw a couple of cents regularly causing you losses which is why I advise setting a minimum withdrawal amount(Eg: $5 etc).

You didn't take into account how long withdrawal could take. 

Obviously not charging a fee for withdrawals is a very nice idea, but I think that to avoid accumulating costs, withdrawals will be done in sessions.

Is it possible to know how long it may take to wait for withdrawal funds?

[Myleschetty]

And also, this is one of the sportsbooks that I've seen here allowing the use of VPN, which is good for those users who want to use VPN.
And are you going to add more cryptocurrencies in the future aside from bitcoin?

Forgive my level of understanding cause I need to be sure. Where do you get the idea that this bookmarker allow the use of VPN cause most bookmarker I know don't do that and I check the representative message on this thread he didn't say anything about the free use of VPN.

[Cryptock]

And also, this is one of the sportsbooks that I've seen here allowing the use of VPN, which is good for those users who want to use VPN.
And are you going to add more cryptocurrencies in the future aside from bitcoin?

Forgive my level of understanding cause I need to be sure. Where do you get the idea that this bookmarker allow the use of VPN cause most bookmarker I know don't do that and I check the representative message on this thread he didn't say anything about the free use of VPN.

This is clearly stated in their Terms and Conditions:

8.4 It is allowed for users to us a VPN connection to enter the website.

Source: https://4444sport.com/pages/tac

This is really a big positive for the bookmaker and it will surely attract a lot of potential players from countries where gambling is not welcome.

[Tumanggor]

I just registered on this site and wish me luck, hopefully there will be lots of promos available LOL

In the future, hopefully on this site, there will be virtual sports and fantasy sports which will certainly make more visitors come

[24Kt]

And also, this is one of the sportsbooks that I've seen here allowing the use of VPN, which is good for those users who want to use VPN.
And are you going to add more cryptocurrencies in the future aside from bitcoin?

Forgive my level of understanding cause I need to be sure. Where do you get the idea that this bookmarker allow the use of VPN cause most bookmarker I know don't do that and I check the representative message on this thread he didn't say anything about the free use of VPN.

This is clearly stated in their Terms and Conditions:

8.4 It is allowed for users to us a VPN connection to enter the website.

Source: https://4444sport.com/pages/tac

This is really a big positive for the bookmaker and it will surely attract a lot of potential players from countries where gambling is not welcome.

This is indeed a good opportunity for those countries who are not allowed into online gambling, and this bookie is outright saying they are open to players who will use VPN. I guess, they will get players from here as I've seen some are really using VPN . Just hope that it will not be a source of abuse later on. And no withdrawal fees? As I have read in previous page. That's very nice as they have no minimum deposit and withdrawal. But I am thinking that they will change this as you know, this is a potential source of abuse.

[carlfebz2]

I open 4444sport.com very lightly on my pc and maybe because this site doesn't use 'bet' or the like in front of the domain, it's not banned in my country. In order to get large visitors, you have to do strong marketing. good luck with your site.

When it comes to market then they should really consider on running a signature campaign on this forum even though it wont really give out guarantee
of success but at least it did really have some exposure which might really be having the chance on hooking up bettors/players on this forum.

Welcome into this forum 4444sport.

Site design isnt really bad at transitions and graphical user interface is smooth and i dont encounter any problems.Good job!

[Slow death]

your site is very simple and practical, i saw that on your site you wrote "Football" instead of "soccer", won't that confuse people? as I speak Portuguese, we always say: soccerl "but I see that for those who speak English they say "soccer", maybe you should put soccer on so that people don't get confused

The best name for any invention, product, or services is the name the inventor/ producer gave to it. The game is called "Football" by the English who are the originators.  That's the correct name. Whatever the rest of us decided to call it is our own business.

Thanks for the explanation, when I entered the site I started looking for where "soccer" was and I thought I didn't have this option to place bets, because when I see the word football I immediately think they are talking about American football. That's why I suggested to the OP that they use the word soccer, but with your explanation I understand

[rokuen]

I maybe wrong, but don't they use the same odds "provider"(they simply steal 1xbet odds) as adkinsbet  also I can’t find any info about their "license"

4444sport
adkinsbet

[rodskee]

Welcome in this forum ,


 the interface is even and presentable .

The Name of company is simple and easy to remember .

The daily event is attractive , so all in all good start for me.

I maybe wrong, but don't they use the same odds "provider"(they simply steal 1xbet odds) as adkinsbet  also I can’t find any info about their "license"

4444sport
adkinsbet

Oops , this sounds pretty correct as I checked them both . Maybe OP has a Good explanation about this .

[Little Mouse]

There is no withdrawal fee and there is no minimum withdrawal amount, the 4444sport will cover the transaction fee of all its players.

Wow, this is really a nice approach to get gamblers attracted to your site especially the small gambler as most of their profits are eaten up by the fees. I'm sure it will help you attract some gamblers but don't you think it will also be abused? You have a free bet option too. Since you have no minimum, I think you should have adjust this to avoid unnecessary fee spending.

That sucks, why would anyone withdraw to the address which they use to deposit. What about depositing from a custodial wallet? Would that give the same address? No. It really doesn't make enough sense. This rule isn't a good one, OP.

[Kakmakr]

A very interesting choice for your domain, because most service providers will not "block" sites like this, if it is in a restricted country... because it is not clear from the name that it might be a gambling site. 

I like the No KYC requirement ...but I have found from experience that as the site grows, they change that policy to satisfy the regulatory entities. (Speaking of regulations.... where are your license?)

[EKoston]

first impression looks great

easy to use
not much noise

no kyc

seems like a dream


but i will not celebrate to fast, cause most important thing is are withdrawals safe

i hope for the best and will test too


*edit*
same live match tracker than betop.gg used
maybe that mean nothing but i recognize that

[Haunebu]

You didn't take into account how long withdrawal could take. 

Obviously not charging a fee for withdrawals is a very nice idea, but I think that to avoid accumulating costs, withdrawals will be done in sessions.

Is it possible to know how long it may take to wait for withdrawal funds?

Why would anyone be concerned about the withdrawal times when they don't have to pay any fees and when there is no minimum withdrawal amount? It's not like it's going to take weeks or anything for the transactions to get processed.

A couple of satoshis are enough these days to send BTC transactions within an hour or less despite the rising price.

[batang_bitcoin]

Welcome to BTT!
I think the design is almost similar to the one that I've seen before but I can't remember the actual casino since it did have bad reviews through the forum.
Maybe the background is better if it's not colored black, IMO.

[4444sport.com]

Thank you for your feedback we are taking consideration of putting a minimum withdrawal, but we may apply it in the future and set a small minimum withdrawal amount.

About the promotion I think we will consider the paid honest review feedback so we should be able to receive honest feedback on our website and which part of our service that we need to improve and maybe taking consideration of running a signature campaign in the future.

In regards with our provider. Every software provider has a wide range of customers and we can't do anything if other sports betting website can use them as well.

About the gambling license, you can find it at the bottom of our gambling site and also the bottom of our ANN thread. Our gambling license is Costa Rica, we choose Costa Rica license because by law KYC is not required and with this license, more players from different countries will be allowed to play at our gambling site since it is crypto related.

[bitterguy28]

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Welcome to Bitcointalk  , but please be more active here in forum because as New gambling site promoting here expect more critics and also questions about your site , a great example is the one above me .

I maybe wrong, but don't they use the same odds "provider"(they simply steal 1xbet odds) as adkinsbet   also I can’t find any info about their "license"

4444sport
adkinsbet

and also the deposit address that must be requiring to make withdrawal , this is a Red flag for crypto gamblers.

[Jawhead999]

first impression looks great
easy to use
not much noise
no kyc
seems like a dream

but i will not celebrate to fast, cause most important thing is are withdrawals safe

Yeah almost new casino will act like to good to be true and better than other sites, of course to attract users to visit and play into their casino. It's no problem at all, but if there're some need to be changed because the owner feel they're to kind... they need to state it on update logs and not disappeared.

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Good consideration and update, well I still curious with above members mentioned your casino has similar layout with other sites... especially the scammy one.

[BitcoinAccepted]

I think you should run a promotion here through signature campaign to boost your exposure in the forum but there are other ways to promote it. I suggest to hire Hhampuz or other reputable managers but you can visit services section and look for a good promotional manager. The review campaign is also nice so people will have a chance to test out your website. I look at your website and the design looks good and fast and tested it out your mobile version and it works fine and looks good too.

Anyway welcome to the forum and I will be waiting too for your future promotions.

[24Kt]

Thank you for your feedback we are taking consideration of putting a minimum withdrawal, but we may apply it in the future and set a small minimum withdrawal amount.

About the promotion I think we will consider the paid honest review feedback so we should be able to receive honest feedback on our website and which part of our service that we need to improve and maybe taking consideration of running a signature campaign in the future.

In regards with our provider. Every software provider has a wide range of customers and we can't do anything if other sports betting website can use them as well.

About the gambling license, you can find it at the bottom of our gambling site and also the bottom of our ANN thread. Our gambling license is Costa Rica, we choose Costa Rica license because by law KYC is not required and with this license, more players from different countries will be allowed to play at our gambling site since it is crypto related.

I think, people are used to seeing Curacao gaming license and they can just press the logo of the license and they will be directed to the validation page, so you can see if the license is legit or not. With Costa Rica, we can't do the same. But anyway, you will earn trust in the next days to come. As long as there is no complaint or if there's an issue, you should promptly resolved it and not delay. As a new sportsbook here, expect that you will receive criticisms but you can always be transparent here so people will start trusting your site. Also, if you want, you can also run sig campaign in the forum and you can already check the services section - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0, to get an idea and possible campaign manage that you can hire. Hire a reputable CM and you can also earn trust from users here.

[MrcMrc]

Welcome to the forum, your site is not that deferent from the rest of the other online cryptocurrency gambling but for the other features of your site am going to try creating an account on your site.

[Stardust23]

Does anybody knows if this site pays?

[radex90]

Just watching...

So far they look familiar😀

[Stardust23]

my deposits are not credited after 5 confirmations

[tippytoes]

my deposits are not credited after 5 confirmations

Have you contacted their customer support? As per item 7.2 of their terms and conditions, bitcoin deposits should be credited automatically after 1 confirmation and you already have 5. By now, it will have more than that. So they say, if it did not arrive, contact their customer support.

The OP here is still active so if it has not credited in your account, maybe try to reach out also to him.

[Lanatsa]

my deposits are not credited after 5 confirmations

Have you contacted their customer support? As per item 7.2 of their terms and conditions, bitcoin deposits should be credited automatically after 1 confirmation and you already have 5. By now, it will have more than that. So they say, if it did not arrive, contact their customer support.

The OP here is still active so if it has not credited in your account, maybe try to reach out also to him.

That's already an issue which might really spark out negative impressions but since they had just started then lets make out some considerations and there might be still some few adjustments needed for this one.

For direct contact of support neither live chat or email
https://4444sport.com/pages/contactus

support@4444sport.com

[radex90]

@Levski7

4 users vouching for them got negative trust score...

[Bitinity]

my deposits are not credited after 5 confirmations

Have you contacted their customer support? As per item 7.2 of their terms and conditions, bitcoin deposits should be credited automatically after 1 confirmation and you already have 5. By now, it will have more than that. So they say, if it did not arrive, contact their customer support.

The OP here is still active so if it has not credited in your account, maybe try to reach out also to him.

That's already an issue which might really spark out negative impressions but since they had just started then lets make out some considerations and there might be still some few adjustments needed for this one.

For direct contact of support neither live chat or email
https://4444sport.com/pages/contactus

support@4444sport.com

Unfortunately the live chat support is not online 24/7, the online time for the live support is limited between 11:00-21:00 CET. Although they say that players can reach them 24/7 through the email support but I guess the effective time to contact them is at the same time as the online time of the live support.

[4444sport.com]

Hi sorry for the inconvenience, we already contacted the user about the situation. However, the Bitcoin address he used to deposit doesn't correspond to the wallet address that was generated for his account.

Additional information. For security and anonymity of our players we have decided to give them different Bitcoin address each time the player will make a deposit but you can still use your previous address to deposit however it will not be automatically added to your balance and you need to contact us through live chat (11:00 - 21:00 CET) or via email - support@4444sport.com (24/7)

We are planning to start now on our promotion and looking for a reputable manager to run this promotion.

[Dripstoil]

Hi sorry for the inconvenience, we already contacted the user about the situation. However, the Bitcoin address he used to deposit doesn't correspond to the wallet address that was generated for his account.

Deposit and withdrawals should be automated. It's frsustrating to have to wait for manual deposit and confirmation.

We are planning to start now on our promotion and looking for a reputable manager to run this promotion.

Will you include active "Members" who are not yet "Full Members" in your sig campaign?

[4444sport.com]

Hi sorry for the inconvenience, we already contacted the user about the situation. However, the Bitcoin address he used to deposit doesn't correspond to the wallet address that was generated for his account.

Deposit and withdrawals should be automated. It's frsustrating to have to wait for manual deposit and confirmation.

We are planning to start now on our promotion and looking for a reputable manager to run this promotion.

Will you include active "Members" who are not yet "Full Members" in your sig campaign?

All deposits are credited automated after 1 confirmation on the network and each time you make a deposit, a new unique bitcoin address will be generated but if you still use your previous address to make new deposit it will not be credited automatically. In that case you need to contact us through live chat or via email in case you have deposited on a previous bitcoin address, so we can lookup the transaction in our wallet and manually credit the funds.

In regards with the promotion. We are not yet running a signature campaign, we are still planning to run promotion(s) before running a signature campaign.
We will launch a review campaign soon. The information about this campaign will be published soon regarding the levels of the bitcointalk members.

[MrcMrc]

Hi sorry for the inconvenience, we already contacted the user about the situation. However, the Bitcoin address he used to deposit doesn't correspond to the wallet address that was generated for his account.

Additional information. For security and anonymity of our players we have decided to give them different Bitcoin address each time the player will make a deposit but you can still use your previous address to deposit however it will not be automatically added to your balance and you need to contact us through live chat (11:00 - 21:00 CET) or via email - support@4444sport.com (24/7)

We are planning to start now on our promotion and looking for a reputable manager to run this promotion.

Nice to know that you are about to make a promotion on this forum, but the fact that your site was called out to be linked to adkinsbet you will need to clarify things for tour potential clients to have trust in your platform.

[radex90]

Oh boy, they start to delete comments...

[Bitinity]

Oh boy, they start to delete comments...

They cant delete any comments because it is not a moderated topic, only mods who can delete posts in this thread. If your post is deleted, high likely your post was reported to the mod by other member for a reason. It can be because your post is off topic or something else that break the rules.

[brknmg]

So what's up with this site?
When I click "Register" it does nothing. Not in one browser.

[mardaed]

So what's up with this site?
When I click "Register" it does nothing. Not in one browser.

I did not tested the site yet, but registering my account was not a problem at all.

[noorman0]

Additional information. For security and anonymity of our players we have decided to give them different Bitcoin address each time the player will make a deposit but you can still use your previous address to deposit however it will not be automatically added to your balance and you need to contact us through live chat (11:00 - 21:00 CET) or via email - support@4444sport.com (24/7)

I'm not sure just for these purposes. I actually think it is more worrying on the customer side because they will lose the evidence to capture when the balance is not credited. Maybe it will be fine now, but who would have thought that in the future with thousands of customers you will need a lot of admins to process manually. Of course you can't control their attitude, can you?

For anonymity, a "no KYC" policy I think will suffice. Even if you want to add this, give the customer an option eg by adding the "generate new address" button below the previous deposit address.

[RILWAN]

@Levski7

4 users vouching for them got negative trust score...

Can you point out those accounts that got negative rating for vouching for 4444sport am not trying to counter your claims but judging from your own trust rating you will need to provide more details to support your claims.

[acroman08]

Oh boy, they start to delete comments...

you realize they cant delete comments right. the thread is not moderated and if the OP reported the post the only way a post will be deleted is if it is off-topic or if it is low quality.

Can you point out those accounts that got negative rating for vouching for 4444sport am not trying to counter your claims but judging from your own trust rating you will need to provide more details to support your claims.

the dude has been tagged for throwing baseless accusations. it's best to just ignore him. he even said that the OP started deleting comments when the thread is not self-moderated. you can't trust what that dude says.

[batang_bitcoin]

Thank you for your feedback we are taking consideration of putting a minimum withdrawal, but we may apply it in the future and set a small minimum withdrawal amount.

About the promotion I think we will consider the paid honest review feedback so we should be able to receive honest feedback on our website and which part of our service that we need to improve and maybe taking consideration of running a signature campaign in the future.

In regards with our provider. Every software provider has a wide range of customers and we can't do anything if other sports betting website can use them as well.

About the gambling license, you can find it at the bottom of our gambling site and also the bottom of our ANN thread. Our gambling license is Costa Rica, we choose Costa Rica license because by law KYC is not required and with this license, more players from different countries will be allowed to play at our gambling site since it is crypto related.

That's good to hear and about paid and honest review. That's a good initiative that you have to start so that you'll get to see the good and bad that gamblers see on your casino as a start.

In regards with the promotion. We are not yet running a signature campaign, we are still planning to run promotion(s) before running a signature campaign.
We will launch a review campaign soon. The information about this campaign will be published soon regarding the levels of the bitcointalk members.

You can also hire a few people or give them incentive/reward just to give you honest and real review. Those people that are better at this, you can find them and they're also reputable in the forum.

[LEVSKI7]

Yes, with each new wave of coronavirus, Adkinsbet appears with a new site. It will soon be clear if it is. But the first sign is on the face = many users with asterisks began to praise the site.
The moderator should explain why he deletes this post and the others in which Adkinsbet is mentioned

[radex90]

@RILWAN

YinShuiSiYuan, bitgov, MrcMrc and BitcoinAccepted, Thats 4...

All of them got negative trust because vouching for 1x scam and BitcoinAccepted is largely recognized for shilling for Adkins

@acroman08

1) so OP is not deleting LEVSKI7's and mine posts but they only report it to moderators to be deleted...
2) as for my "baseless accusations", jut remember: Few users (myself incl) were pointing out that Malubit and Adkinsbet were scam sites beyond any doubt. We were right but many ppl lost their money

[acroman08]

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unless the thread is self-moderated the OP cannot delete your post. I looked up which posts got deleted and it's no wonder why they got deleted. if you want your post to stay make it constructive. posting something that short will almost always be considered a low-quality post by the mods if the post were reported. also, reporting a post does not guarantee deletion of the reported post but seeing the posts that got deleted, I am not really surprised why they got deleted.

[naira]

Welcome to the forum
The placement of the features is quite neat and not random. This look reminds me of the gambling casinos of the past. But it looks like I'll try to play a few bucks and test it out like all the casinos I've explored since 2005.
Entering the Sport feature I am quite satisfied with all the various choices ranging from soccer sports betting to Futsal (but I don't bet on Futsal). So far the list of favorites in this casino for me: Football, tennis, Volleyball, Boxing and the last one to sharpen the mind that is Chess.

[stomachgrowls]

So what's up with this site?
When I click "Register" it does nothing. Not in one browser.

What browser you've been using?
I have tested out on different browsers and i dont experience such problem.

-Chome
-Mozilla
-Opera
-Microsoft Edge
-Brave
-Internet explorer

Have you tried on resetting the browser?
I dont believe this is a connection issue nor on the site itself.

[khaled0111]

As far as I know, there is no licensing authority in Costa Rica. So, saying that you are a licensed casino is a bit misleading.

Additional information. For security and anonymity of our players we have decided to give them different Bitcoin address each time the player will make a deposit

But this contradicts your withdrawal rule which states that the user can only withdraw to the address he used to deposit. If you really care about the anonymity of your customers then you should let them withdraw to whatever address they want. Addresses reuse is not recommended for crypto users as it compromises their privacy/security.

[bitgov]

Oh boy, they start to delete comments...

This is not a self-moderated thread, so the OP cannot delete posts. Only admin and moderators can delete posts.
I have a feeling that you are implying that there is something wrong with this casino, could you please explain where your suspicions are coming from?

[AmoreJaz]

As far as I know, there is no licensing authority in Costa Rica. So, saying that you are a licensed company is a bit misleading.

Additional information. For security and anonymity of our players we have decided to give them different Bitcoin address each time the player will make a deposit

But this contradicts your withdrawal rule which states that the user can only withdraw to the address he used to deposit. If you really care for the anonymity of your customers then you should let them withdraw to whatever address they want. Addresses reuse is not recommended for crypto users as it reduces their privacy.

you have a very valid point regarding this gaming license in costa rica.
just a quick search and you can read from this link
and below is the quick snapshot from the article -



so in this regard, can the OP elaborate on what kind of license they got from Costa Rica? maybe, it is not a gaming license but just a business license.

[nakamura12]

Quite like it. I tried visiting the site using Firefox browser using mobile device and it loads fine. It is rare to know a gambling site that doesn't need fee for withdrawal, allowed using VPN to enter the site and doesn't have a minimum amount needed to withdraw but I think it should have a minimum withdrawal as suggested in previous post.

[brknmg]

So what's up with this site?
When I click "Register" it does nothing. Not in one browser.

My fault, I did not put a number into the password. (But the website did not mention is, simply didn't do anything after clicking the register button. 4444sports, this should be changed:) )

I tried the site, it's fast, has a huge live market, clear... if they pay out, and don't act like 1xbit and other 1xbet clones, this is the best gambling site ever.

4444sport: you should implement bitcoin as currency. A real crypto gambling site has no eur or usd as currency, I think.

[mitchr4]

So what's up with this site?
When I click "Register" it does nothing. Not in one browser.

My fault, I did not put a number into the password. (But the website did not mention is, simply didn't do anything after clicking the register button. 4444sports, this should be changed:) )

I tried the site, it's fast, has a huge live market, clear... if they pay out, and don't act like 1xbit and other 1xbet clones, this is the best gambling site ever.

4444sport: you should implement bitcoin as currency. A real crypto gambling site has no eur or usd as currency, I think.

In the registration form has mentioned the password format below lowercase, uppercase, and at least 1 number with a minimum of 4 characters. It's a little weird because usually the password is 6 or 8 characters long. And also this site has accepted Bitcoin.
I don't know if you have properly checked the site you are visiting. It's so clear

[brknmg]

So what's up with this site?
When I click "Register" it does nothing. Not in one browser.

My fault, I did not put a number into the password. (But the website did not mention is, simply didn't do anything after clicking the register button. 4444sports, this should be changed:) )

I tried the site, it's fast, has a huge live market, clear... if they pay out, and don't act like 1xbit and other 1xbet clones, this is the best gambling site ever.

4444sport: you should implement bitcoin as currency. A real crypto gambling site has no eur or usd as currency, I think.

In the registration form has mentioned the password format below lowercase, uppercase, and at least 1 number with a minimum of 4 characters. It's a little weird because usually the password is 6 or 8 characters long. And also this site has accepted Bitcoin.
I don't know if you have properly checked the site you are visiting. It's so clear

Yes, it says the requirements for the password, but when you write a wrong password, there is no red writing with the problem.

Did I say anything about the deposit or withdrawal methods? I said the currency should be btc or mbtc, first please understand my comment.

[Cryptock]

Did I say anything about the deposit or withdrawal methods? I said the currency should be btc or mbtc, first please understand my comment.

After all, it is possible to play for cryptocurrencies. That's why this casino advertises itself on Bitcointalk. If it has the ability to play with other currencies, this is an additional incentive for players outside the crypto world. I don't understand why it bothers you?

[panjul07]

I said the currency should be btc or mbtc, first please understand my comment.

Why it should be btc or mbtc? Just because we are in the crypto gambling industry so a site that accept crypto should not use fiat as the main currency to bet?
It is very common now, many sites use $ as the main currency although players are able to deposit with some different crypto.
Some sites do auto conversion (crypto to fiat) and some others keep the crypto but the they have an option to show balance in fiat.
All in all, every site are free to set their own rules/option about the denomination of the balance.

[bitgov]

I said the currency should be btc or mbtc, first please understand my comment.

Why it should be btc or mbtc? Just because we are in the crypto gambling industry so a site that accept crypto should not use fiat as the main currency to bet?
It is very common now, many sites use $ as the main currency although players are able to deposit with some different crypto.
Some sites do auto conversion (crypto to fiat) and some others keep the crypto but the they have an option to show balance in fiat.

I also find it very convenient when the casino combines fiat and cryptocurrencies. In this case, the advantage of fiats proves that it is more a classic casino than a cryptocurrency one. 
However, I think it's easier to add cryptocurrency payment than fiat, so probably soon the choice of crypto for us should be bigger.

[4444sport.com]

We all appreciate the feedback. In regards with our Costa Rica license. Costa Rica gambling websites can operate under a business license and there's no other special requirements needed.

We choose Costa Rica license since it allows users from much more countries to play on our website, as well as to eliminate the needs of the KYC for all of our players.
The only jurisdictions that are not allowed to play on our site are Costa Rica and USA.

Players are encouraged to withdraw their balances to the wallet where deposit came from and if it's not possible, they are allowed to make withdrawals to other wallets.

We implement this rule to make sure that the players will withdraw their balance to their own wallet and will not accidentally sent to others and lastly, about the balance we choose to display the balance in EUR or USD so the rate of the Bitcoin will not affect the balance of all the players.

[nakamura12]

Why it should be btc or mbtc? Just because we are in the crypto gambling industry so a site that accept crypto should not use fiat as the main currency to bet?
It is very common now, many sites use $ as the main currency although players are able to deposit with some different crypto.
Some sites do auto conversion (crypto to fiat) and some others keep the crypto but the they have an option to show balance in fiat.
All in all, every site are free to set their own rules/option about the denomination of the balance.

Damn right, I wouldn't bother contacting them to make it btc or mbtc as long as the site accepts different cryptocurrency as one of payment method when you deposit and in withdrawal. I wonder if he/she knows that some legit, trusted, reputable gambling site even made the currency showed is fiat but to deposit it accepts crypto and also in withdrawal so I don't see any problem to that but wonder why it must be mbtc or btc?.

[khaled0111]

Thanks for answering the questions especially the one regarding your license.

Players are encouraged to withdraw their balances to the wallet where deposit came from and if it's not possible, they are allowed to make withdrawals to other wallets.

We implement this rule to make sure that the players will withdraw their balance to their own wallet and will not accidentally sent to others

If players can withdraw to any address they want and not only the one they deposited from, then, I believe, you should remove or edit the clause #7.4 from the ToS to avoid any confusion.
Clause 7.5 states that withdrawals may take up to 72 hours, does it mean that withdrawals are processed manually?

[brknmg]

In some countries, you have to pay taxes when you convert crypto to fiat. If you want to do it fully legal, you can't play at a bookie like this, because you convert it to fiat, then back, than fiat, etc.

[Eureka_07]

Welcome to the forum!
I've read about your balance reload. Just want to ask about it, how much is is needed to get that maximum $500 reload bonus? Can you also tell us more about it?

Pretty decent looking  website.

[Bitinity]

I've read about your balance reload. Just want to ask about it, how much is is needed to get that maximum $500 reload bonus? Can you also tell us more about it?

It works like deposit bonus if I understand it correctly but there is no detailed information about the percentage of the reload as well as about the rollover requirement. The terms about the bonus needs to be explained clearly so it wont make any confusion. It seems that players will get the detailed information once they make a deposit then they can find it under the My Rewards tab where players can decide whether to take the bonus or not.

[julien5]

why the betting limits are so small (100-500 usd)

[kralj888]

stay away from this site!!!! the bigest scam ever!!

Hello,

We want to inform you that is not allowed to user Tipster service to get a massive unfair advantage on our betting platform. You can find the information in our TAC, where we have written we have the right to confiscate the winnings from such betting pattern.
Therefore, we have deducted the winnings from your account.
You can make a withdrawal from your account from the total deposited sum  (€ 309.93) (or use our platform in a fair way).

Best regards,
Customer Support Team
 

when i won 1000e and want to witdraw money i got this message...

 dont play there

[4444sport.com]

why the betting limits are so small (100-500 usd)

Not all the sports and competitions have these limits. Every sport and competition has its own limit. For popular competitions, we offer much higher betting limits.
These limits are per each bet. Which means you are allowed to place more bets on the same event. If you have a special request for placing a bet with higher value, please contact our support team so they can check if this is possible.

stay away from this site!!!! the bigest scam ever!!

Hello,

We want to inform you that is not allowed to user Tipster service to get a massive unfair advantage on our betting platform. You can find the information in our TAC, where we have written we have the right to confiscate the winnings from such betting pattern.
Therefore, we have deducted the winnings from your account.
You can make a withdrawal from your account from the total deposited sum  (€ 309.93) (or use our platform in a fair way).

Best regards,
Customer Support Team
 

when i won 1000e and want to witdraw money i got this message...

 dont play there

If you try to get on unfair advantage, our software will detect this. In such cases, winnings are confiscated from the balance.
You are eligible to withdraw the money that you have deposited.
This user already openly admits to us that he was using tipster services around the world (trying to get an unfair advantage in this case).

I've read about your balance reload. Just want to ask about it, how much is is needed to get that maximum $500 reload bonus? Can you also tell us more about it?

It works like deposit bonus if I understand it correctly but there is no detailed information about the percentage of the reload as well as about the rollover requirement. The terms about the bonus needs to be explained clearly so it wont make any confusion. It seems that players will get the detailed information once they make a deposit then they can find it under the My Rewards tab where players can decide whether to take the bonus or not.

For the moment, we do not have a bonus for new players. Bonuses are offered to players, based on their activity. (reload bonuses included)
If there is a bonus available for a deposit, you can find this in the My account --> My rewards section and claim the offer from there.
From time to time, we also offer Free Bets to our players.
We have the cashback offer for VIP players, which means they will receive 5% cashback, with a maximum amount up to €2500.
On the moment when somebody has wagered €10.000, he will become a VIP player on our site.

[ratas]

only an felling

but since the begin, i had a strong felling that this guys are the betop.gg  team


and for now, the justify for limits and for who follow tipsters are exact the same. even the bonus are in same cases similar.


maybe im wrong,but just a felling

[kralj888]

why the betting limits are so small (100-500 usd)

Not all the sports and competitions have these limits. Every sport and competition has its own limit. For popular competitions, we offer much higher betting limits.
These limits are per each bet. Which means you are allowed to place more bets on the same event. If you have a special request for placing a bet with higher value, please contact our support team so they can check if this is possible.

stay away from this site!!!! the bigest scam ever!!

Hello,

We want to inform you that is not allowed to user Tipster service to get a massive unfair advantage on our betting platform. You can find the information in our TAC, where we have written we have the right to confiscate the winnings from such betting pattern.
Therefore, we have deducted the winnings from your account.
You can make a withdrawal from your account from the total deposited sum  (€ 309.93) (or use our platform in a fair way).

Best regards,
Customer Support Team
 

when i won 1000e and want to witdraw money i got this message...

 dont play there

If you try to get on unfair advantage, our software will detect this. In such cases, winnings are confiscated from the balance.
You are eligible to withdraw the money that you have deposited.
This user already openly admits to us that he was using tipster services around the world (trying to get an unfair advantage in this case).

no i bet my bets also but u void all because u are the biggest scam ever on internet....feople better stay awey from this site if u dont want to lose your money
this is a very good advertisement for the new site hahaha...u can close this site today better for u

I've read about your balance reload. Just want to ask about it, how much is is needed to get that maximum $500 reload bonus? Can you also tell us more about it?

It works like deposit bonus if I understand it correctly but there is no detailed information about the percentage of the reload as well as about the rollover requirement. The terms about the bonus needs to be explained clearly so it wont make any confusion. It seems that players will get the detailed information once they make a deposit then they can find it under the My Rewards tab where players can decide whether to take the bonus or not.

For the moment, we do not have a bonus for new players. Bonuses are offered to players, based on their activity. (reload bonuses included)
If there is a bonus available for a deposit, you can find this in the My account --> My rewards section and claim the offer from there.
From time to time, we also offer Free Bets to our players.
We have the cashback offer for VIP players, which means they will receive 5% cashback, with a maximum amount up to €2500.
On the moment when somebody has wagered €10.000, he will become a VIP player on our site.

[Sirait]

~snip

~snip

~snip

is it just my feelings? I hope the three of you can be fairer and don't have opinions based on feelings only. if you have a complaint against this site then include evidence here, I am not part of the team but you have to compete fairly, don't be afraid of your gambling business being competed.

[rokuen]

stay away from this site!!!! the bigest scam ever!!

Hello,

We want to inform you that is not allowed to user Tipster service to get a massive unfair advantage on our betting platform. You can find the information in our TAC, where we have written we have the right to confiscate the winnings from such betting pattern.
Therefore, we have deducted the winnings from your account.
You can make a withdrawal from your account from the total deposited sum  (€ 309.93) (or use our platform in a fair way).

Best regards,
Customer Support Team
 

when i won 1000e and want to witdraw money i got this message...

 dont play there

I’m sorry for you. At least more people will aware this crooks.

[MonsterV]

why the betting limits are so small (100-500 usd)

Not all the sports and competitions have these limits. Every sport and competition has its own limit. For popular competitions, we offer much higher betting limits.
These limits are per each bet. Which means you are allowed to place more bets on the same event. If you have a special request for placing a bet with higher value, please contact our support team so they can check if this is possible.

stay away from this site!!!! the bigest scam ever!!

Hello,

We want to inform you that is not allowed to user Tipster service to get a massive unfair advantage on our betting platform. You can find the information in our TAC, where we have written we have the right to confiscate the winnings from such betting pattern.
Therefore, we have deducted the winnings from your account.
You can make a withdrawal from your account from the total deposited sum  (€ 309.93) (or use our platform in a fair way).

Best regards,
Customer Support Team
 

when i won 1000e and want to witdraw money i got this message...

 dont play there

If you try to get on unfair advantage, our software will detect this. In such cases, winnings are confiscated from the balance.
You are eligible to withdraw the money that you have deposited.
This user already openly admits to us that he was using tipster services around the world (trying to get an unfair advantage in this case).

I've read about your balance reload. Just want to ask about it, how much is is needed to get that maximum $500 reload bonus? Can you also tell us more about it?

It works like deposit bonus if I understand it correctly but there is no detailed information about the percentage of the reload as well as about the rollover requirement. The terms about the bonus needs to be explained clearly so it wont make any confusion. It seems that players will get the detailed information once they make a deposit then they can find it under the My Rewards tab where players can decide whether to take the bonus or not.

For the moment, we do not have a bonus for new players. Bonuses are offered to players, based on their activity. (reload bonuses included)
If there is a bonus available for a deposit, you can find this in the My account --> My rewards section and claim the offer from there.
From time to time, we also offer Free Bets to our players.
We have the cashback offer for VIP players, which means they will receive 5% cashback, with a maximum amount up to €2500.
On the moment when somebody has wagered €10.000, he will become a VIP player on our site.

The problem nowadays is that Tipster services are being uses for the wrong purposes. Back in the days, there were some good value bets.
Since the offer of matches online has significant be increased, those sites probably are looking for sure bets, instead of betting tips.

[kralj888]

why the betting limits are so small (100-500 usd)

Not all the sports and competitions have these limits. Every sport and competition has its own limit. For popular competitions, we offer much higher betting limits.
These limits are per each bet. Which means you are allowed to place more bets on the same event. If you have a special request for placing a bet with higher value, please contact our support team so they can check if this is possible.

stay away from this site!!!! the bigest scam ever!!

Hello,

We want to inform you that is not allowed to user Tipster service to get a massive unfair advantage on our betting platform. You can find the information in our TAC, where we have written we have the right to confiscate the winnings from such betting pattern.
Therefore, we have deducted the winnings from your account.
You can make a withdrawal from your account from the total deposited sum  (€ 309.93) (or use our platform in a fair way).

Best regards,
Customer Support Team
 

when i won 1000e and want to witdraw money i got this message...

 dont play there

If you try to get on unfair advantage, our software will detect this. In such cases, winnings are confiscated from the balance.
You are eligible to withdraw the money that you have deposited.
This user already openly admits to us that he was using tipster services around the world (trying to get an unfair advantage in this case).

I've read about your balance reload. Just want to ask about it, how much is is needed to get that maximum $500 reload bonus? Can you also tell us more about it?

It works like deposit bonus if I understand it correctly but there is no detailed information about the percentage of the reload as well as about the rollover requirement. The terms about the bonus needs to be explained clearly so it wont make any confusion. It seems that players will get the detailed information once they make a deposit then they can find it under the My Rewards tab where players can decide whether to take the bonus or not.

For the moment, we do not have a bonus for new players. Bonuses are offered to players, based on their activity. (reload bonuses included)
If there is a bonus available for a deposit, you can find this in the My account --> My rewards section and claim the offer from there.
From time to time, we also offer Free Bets to our players.
We have the cashback offer for VIP players, which means they will receive 5% cashback, with a maximum amount up to €2500.
On the moment when somebody has wagered €10.000, he will become a VIP player on our site.

The problem nowadays is that Tipster services are being uses for the wrong purposes. Back in the days, there were some good value bets.
Since the offer of matches online has significant be increased, those sites probably are looking for sure bets, instead of betting tips.


they void also my own bets..this site is scam stay away

[4444sport.com]

why the betting limits are so small (100-500 usd)

Not all the sports and competitions have these limits. Every sport and competition has its own limit. For popular competitions, we offer much higher betting limits.
These limits are per each bet. Which means you are allowed to place more bets on the same event. If you have a special request for placing a bet with higher value, please contact our support team so they can check if this is possible.

stay away from this site!!!! the bigest scam ever!!

Hello,

We want to inform you that is not allowed to user Tipster service to get a massive unfair advantage on our betting platform. You can find the information in our TAC, where we have written we have the right to confiscate the winnings from such betting pattern.
Therefore, we have deducted the winnings from your account.
You can make a withdrawal from your account from the total deposited sum  (€ 309.93) (or use our platform in a fair way).

Best regards,
Customer Support Team
 

when i won 1000e and want to witdraw money i got this message...

 dont play there

If you try to get on unfair advantage, our software will detect this. In such cases, winnings are confiscated from the balance.
You are eligible to withdraw the money that you have deposited.
This user already openly admits to us that he was using tipster services around the world (trying to get an unfair advantage in this case).

I've read about your balance reload. Just want to ask about it, how much is is needed to get that maximum $500 reload bonus? Can you also tell us more about it?

It works like deposit bonus if I understand it correctly but there is no detailed information about the percentage of the reload as well as about the rollover requirement. The terms about the bonus needs to be explained clearly so it wont make any confusion. It seems that players will get the detailed information once they make a deposit then they can find it under the My Rewards tab where players can decide whether to take the bonus or not.

For the moment, we do not have a bonus for new players. Bonuses are offered to players, based on their activity. (reload bonuses included)
If there is a bonus available for a deposit, you can find this in the My account --> My rewards section and claim the offer from there.
From time to time, we also offer Free Bets to our players.
We have the cashback offer for VIP players, which means they will receive 5% cashback, with a maximum amount up to €2500.
On the moment when somebody has wagered €10.000, he will become a VIP player on our site.

The problem nowadays is that Tipster services are being uses for the wrong purposes. Back in the days, there were some good value bets.
Since the offer of matches online has significant be increased, those sites probably are looking for sure bets, instead of betting tips.

User kralj888 already admits to our support team that he was using tipster services to place his bets. With these bets, he obtained a big unfair advantage.
If people try to cheat or try to gain an unfair advantage on purpose, we have the right to confiscate the winnings as per our TAC.
The user kralj888 already received his deposited sum back into his bitcoin wallet.

[safari88]

only an felling

but since the begin, i had a strong felling that this guys are the betop.gg  team


and for now, the justify for limits and for who follow tipsters are exact the same. even the bonus are in same cases similar.


maybe im wrong,but just a felling

I have checked these both sites, but they both have different matches and different odds.
I do not think it is from the same owner.

[nakamura12]

From the beginning I said that this is the swindler Adkinsbet. And his rules are like on the previous site. He is full of ordinary people who give him their money.

If your claim is true then you should start a scam accusation in the scam accusation board and provide the proof ir evidence you have that the site is a scam. I am not defending the site but rather making you expose what you really want. If you do that then you'll help many people to stay away from a scam instead of accusing a site that it is a scam. In short, it is all just a talk and an accusation.

[4444sport.com]

@radex
@LEVSKI7

It seems that you have had a problem with some sites in the past. We regret that, but we have nothing to do with the mentioned sites Malubit and/or Adkinsbet.
If you have reasons to believe we do, please share your evidence. If you do not have any substantial evidence, please stop making false and baseless accusations.

Thank you.

[RILWAN]

@radex
@LEVSKI7

It seems that you have had a problem with some sites in the past. We regret that, but we have nothing to do with the mentioned sites Malubit and/or Adkinsbet.
If you have reasons to believe we do, please share your evidence. If you do not have any substantial evidence, please stop making false and baseless accusations.

Thank you.

Because of some shandy sites with bad reputation and scam accusations against so many members of this forum are now skeptical on new platforms popping up but you are legit then you have nothing to worry with time you will gain good reputation on the forum and outside.

[bislom]

can somebody from the support team maybe tell me something about the limits?
i just registered but did not deposit yet i want to be sure the limits are decent.
from what i can see now is that many matches have limits like 500 usd ?

[Reatim]

COngrats for advertising here in Bitcointalk , surely you'll gain more and more players from doing this , but of course that is depend on how you will attract people here from your bonuses, events and specially your legitimacy .
there are so many gambling online in crypto that popping now as we knew this season the 4th quarter is where most people invest in gambling as same as the owners of the sites.

The interface is simple and the only needed is proper advertising , try to conduct more events and also campaigning .

[acroman08]

can somebody from the support team maybe tell me something about the limits?
i just registered but did not deposit yet i want to be sure the limits are decent.
from what i can see now is that many matches have limits like 500 usd ?

don't they have live support? why not contact them? check the bottom right side of the screen when you go to their website, you'll see an icon there that when clicked it will pop up a chat box to their live chat support. you can also email their support through support@4444sport.com

here's a reference to their live chat support.

contact us through live chat (11:00 - 21:00 CET) or via email - support@4444sport.com (24/7)

[kralj888]

can somebody from the support team maybe tell me something about the limits?
i just registered but did not deposit yet i want to be sure the limits are decent.
from what i can see now is that many matches have limits like 500 usd ?

dont play there they will not pay you this site is scam trust me

[btc78]

@radex
@LEVSKI7

It seems that you have had a problem with some sites in the past. We regret that, but we have nothing to do with the mentioned sites Malubit and/or Adkinsbet.
If you have reasons to believe we do, please share your evidence. If you do not have any substantial evidence, please stop making false and baseless accusations.

Thank you.

Dont make it that deeper problem if someone is accusing or thinking false about your site instead make them learn about your legitimacy by serving your gambler the best you can be.

It is normal in this forum that accusation and critics are there specially those who had been working in other site that might be triggered by your presence .

If they are wrong then prove it .

_______________________________________________________________

welcome to the forum anyway.

[4444sport.com]

can somebody from the support team maybe tell me something about the limits?
i just registered but did not deposit yet i want to be sure the limits are decent.
from what i can see now is that many matches have limits like 500 usd ?

dont play there they will not pay you this site is scam trust me

You already received your deposited money back into your wallet.
You have violated our terms, by trying to get an unfair advantage on our platform - Trying to cheat -
You already admit this by yourself to our support team that you are using Tipster services.
I think this is a normal procedure, we can not pay money to people that cheat or that won unfair.
If people play fair, they will get paid.

[EKoston]

What does that mean trying to cheat?

You talk about kind of "syndicate betting" which still exists as long as the internet and social media.

But telling a guy he is cheating? if he bought a tipster for example?
Are you serious?

This is the same pattern like betop.gg

If anyone is betting on the same like other people...... thats part of business
There are many thousands people who posting picks via special betting platforms like blogabet or tipstertube (or many other in different countries) and also people providing their picks in telegram, whatsapp or facebook.

So please if you are not able to pay out winning players then please stop business.....
if you can payout then do it like all other bookies, limit them if they will win to much. But please do not tell those fairy tales about cheating.....

[buwaytress]

Always curious about new sportsbooks but I'll hold off before trying. Going to need to see a lot of effort from OP to even come close to what forum already has!

I get the fixation on "8" in East Asia, since the number sounds like the word for luck. 4, on the other hand, is the unluckiest number, as it sounds a lot like the word for death.

So I can safely rule out this being an East Asian outfit. Ha!

your site is very simple and practical, i saw that on your site you wrote "Football" instead of "soccer", won't that confuse people? as I speak Portuguese, we always say: soccerl "but I see that for those who speak English they say "soccer", maybe you should put soccer on so that people don't get confused

Thought most English speakers except in the Americas say football, though

[kralj888]

can somebody from the support team maybe tell me something about the limits?
i just registered but did not deposit yet i want to be sure the limits are decent.
from what i can see now is that many matches have limits like 500 usd ?

dont play there they will not pay you this site is scam trust me

You already received your deposited money back into your wallet.
You have violated our terms, by trying to get an unfair advantage on our platform - Trying to cheat -
You already admit this by yourself to our support team that you are using Tipster services.
I think this is a normal procedure, we can not pay money to people that cheat or that won unfair.
If people play fair, they will get paid.

i have mybe 3 or 4 bets from tipsters all other bets are mine but you void all bets..you are here just for steal peoples money and u know that!

[brknmg]

If 4444sport is called scam after 1 guy is kicked out because violating the t&c,  then why are you allowing members here promoting the biggest f*ckign scam of life, 1xbit? You are in the same room with 100% stealers cheaters and 1 site which is "maybe" a scam, but only one man is saying that...

[sovie]

If 4444sport is called scam after 1 guy is kicked out because violating the t&c,  then why are you allowing members here promoting the biggest f*ckign scam of life, 1xbit? You are in the same room with 100% stealers cheaters and 1 site which is "maybe" a scam, but only one man is saying that...

How does 4444sport.com allow to advertise other bookmaker?
This forum is for everyone, and the 1xBit ad is in the users signature. To delete posts in a thread, an OP would have to create a "self moderated" thread. If there is no such option, only moderators can remove posts.

[shasan]

Design looks clean and smooth but what does the 4444 in your name stands for? There's going to be much confusions with the name. A lot of typographic errors from people typing 444 instead of 4444 and typing Sports in place of Sport. Did you give thoughts to all that before choosing your name?

I'm asking because traffic leakages is a big deal in any online business, that's why people invest a lot of money to acquire fine names that has little or no ambiguities.

I think this 4444  stands for nothing but op or owner of the site tried to take a domain called sport but it is not available then tried 4sport again not available, then 44sport that is also unavailable then 444sport that is unavailable too finally tried 4444sport and got that. I searched before replying you on godaddy and noticed like this.

[dustboy]

Design looks clean and smooth but what does the 4444 in your name stands for? There's going to be much confusions with the name. A lot of typographic errors from people typing 444 instead of 4444 and typing Sports in place of Sport. Did you give thoughts to all that before choosing your name?

I'm asking because traffic leakages is a big deal in any online business, that's why people invest a lot of money to acquire fine names that has little or no ambiguities.

I think this 4444  stands for nothing but op or owner of the site tried to take a domain called sport but it is not available then tried 4sport again not available, then 44sport that is also unavailable then 444sport that is unavailable too finally tried 4444sport and got that. I searched before replying you on godaddy and noticed like this.

This kind of typographic error might be dangerous for users once the site is popular and get a huge traffic then there are scammers who bought the double 4 or triple 4 domain to scam users from the original 4444sports. What users need to do is to double check the link before clicking or better to bookmark the official original page to avoid phishing attempts.

[bislom]

can somebody from the support team maybe tell me something about the limits?
i just registered but did not deposit yet i want to be sure the limits are decent.
from what i can see now is that many matches have limits like 500 usd ?

don't they have live support? why not contact them? check the bottom right side of the screen when you go to their website, you'll see an icon there that when clicked it will pop up a chat box to their live chat support. you can also email their support through support@4444sport.com

here's a reference to their live chat support.

contact us through live chat (11:00 - 21:00 CET) or via email - support@4444sport.com (24/7)

ow I get it now. i was checking it on my mobile and on mobile version they seems to have not live chat support?
i checked myself the limits it turns out that on the big leagues they have higher limits and on lower leagues where there is probably less interest the limits are lower.

[4444sport.com]

COngrats for advertising here in Bitcointalk , surely you'll gain more and more players from doing this , but of course that is depend on how you will attract people here from your bonuses, events and specially your legitimacy .
there are so many gambling online in crypto that popping now as we knew this season the 4th quarter is where most people invest in gambling as same as the owners of the sites.

The interface is simple and the only needed is proper advertising , try to conduct more events and also campaigning .

You are correct about this. We are planning to start campaigns soon. This will also include a signature campaign and review campaign as well.
We also want to hold a weekly promotion on the forum, where people can win free money in their account on our site.
Every idea/suggestion is welcome.

Design looks clean and smooth but what does the 4444 in your name stands for? There's going to be much confusions with the name. A lot of typographic errors from people typing 444 instead of 4444 and typing Sports in place of Sport. Did you give thoughts to all that before choosing your name?

I'm asking because traffic leakages is a big deal in any online business, that's why people invest a lot of money to acquire fine names that has little or no ambiguities.

I think this 4444  stands for nothing but op or owner of the site tried to take a domain called sport but it is not available then tried 4sport again not available, then 44sport that is also unavailable then 444sport that is unavailable too finally tried 4444sport and got that. I searched before replying you on godaddy and noticed like this.

We tried to come up with a name that is easy for users to remember and that is unique.
We have chosen for 4444sport, since its 4 times the 4 in the name.

can somebody from the support team maybe tell me something about the limits?
i just registered but did not deposit yet i want to be sure the limits are decent.
from what i can see now is that many matches have limits like 500 usd ?

don't they have live support? why not contact them? check the bottom right side of the screen when you go to their website, you'll see an icon there that when clicked it will pop up a chat box to their live chat support. you can also email their support through support@4444sport.com

here's a reference to their live chat support.

contact us through live chat (11:00 - 21:00 CET) or via email - support@4444sport.com (24/7)

ow I get it now. i was checking it on my mobile and on mobile version they seems to have not live chat support?
i checked myself the limits it turns out that on the big leagues they have higher limits and on lower leagues where there is probably less interest the limits are lower.

If you wish to place a bet where your preferred stake is not available, you are allowed to repeat your bets.

[sovie]

Design looks clean and smooth but what does the 4444 in your name stands for? There's going to be much confusions with the name. A lot of typographic errors from people typing 444 instead of 4444 and typing Sports in place of Sport. Did you give thoughts to all that before choosing your name?

I'm asking because traffic leakages is a big deal in any online business, that's why people invest a lot of money to acquire fine names that has little or no ambiguities.

I think this 4444  stands for nothing but op or owner of the site tried to take a domain called sport but it is not available then tried 4sport again not available, then 44sport that is also unavailable then 444sport that is unavailable too finally tried 4444sport and got that. I searched before replying you on godaddy and noticed like this.

We tried to come up with a name that is easy for users to remember and that is unique.
We have chosen for 4444sport, since its 4 times the 4 in the name.

As for me, the name is very easy to remember and that's okay. However, there is a danger that scammers will try to make phishing attemts as it is easy to get confused by typing 4 three times instead of four. Maybe you should somehow gently warn your users and advise them to be careful.

[bislom]

COngrats for advertising here in Bitcointalk , surely you'll gain more and more players from doing this , but of course that is depend on how you will attract people here from your bonuses, events and specially your legitimacy .
there are so many gambling online in crypto that popping now as we knew this season the 4th quarter is where most people invest in gambling as same as the owners of the sites.

The interface is simple and the only needed is proper advertising , try to conduct more events and also campaigning .

You are correct about this. We are planning to start campaigns soon. This will also include a signature campaign and review campaign as well.
We also want to hold a weekly promotion on the forum, where people can win free money in their account on our site.
Every idea/suggestion is welcome.

Design looks clean and smooth but what does the 4444 in your name stands for? There's going to be much confusions with the name. A lot of typographic errors from people typing 444 instead of 4444 and typing Sports in place of Sport. Did you give thoughts to all that before choosing your name?

I'm asking because traffic leakages is a big deal in any online business, that's why people invest a lot of money to acquire fine names that has little or no ambiguities.

I think this 4444  stands for nothing but op or owner of the site tried to take a domain called sport but it is not available then tried 4sport again not available, then 44sport that is also unavailable then 444sport that is unavailable too finally tried 4444sport and got that. I searched before replying you on godaddy and noticed like this.

We tried to come up with a name that is easy for users to remember and that is unique.
We have chosen for 4444sport, since its 4 times the 4 in the name.

can somebody from the support team maybe tell me something about the limits?
i just registered but did not deposit yet i want to be sure the limits are decent.
from what i can see now is that many matches have limits like 500 usd ?

don't they have live support? why not contact them? check the bottom right side of the screen when you go to their website, you'll see an icon there that when clicked it will pop up a chat box to their live chat support. you can also email their support through support@4444sport.com

here's a reference to their live chat support.

contact us through live chat (11:00 - 21:00 CET) or via email - support@4444sport.com (24/7)

ow I get it now. i was checking it on my mobile and on mobile version they seems to have not live chat support?
i checked myself the limits it turns out that on the big leagues they have higher limits and on lower leagues where there is probably less interest the limits are lower.

If you wish to place a bet where your preferred stake is not available, you are allowed to repeat your bets.

So this basically means users can places bet as much as they want or will the system cap you if you placed to many bets on the same event/market ?

[Naficopa]

Regarding the name I don't know if anyone noticed it, but the smartest thing is that in many countries there are firewalls that pick up the names of gambling websites (bet, win and similar) and block them with internet providers. I think 4444sport will not be caught by them too soon ..  

[4444sport.com]

[4444sport.com]

 

[bislom]

What is the minimum stake on your site?

[LUCKMCFLY]

@radex
@LEVSKI7

It seems that you have had a problem with some sites in the past. We regret that, but we have nothing to do with the mentioned sites Malubit and/or Adkinsbet.
If you have reasons to believe we do, please share your evidence. If you do not have any substantial evidence, please stop making false and baseless accusations.

Thank you.

Dont make it that deeper problem if someone is accusing or thinking false about your site instead make them learn about your legitimacy by serving your gambler the best you can be.

It is normal in this forum that accusation and critics are there specially those who had been working in other site that might be triggered by your presence .

If they are wrong then prove it .

_______________________________________________________________

welcome to the forum anyway.

I agree with your statement, however it would be nice if OP could show many more things that could make the forum members fall in love, when reading the thread its reason for being tends to be confused, it seems too much to be a "reputation" thread and the truth would like to see more details of the site, as I do, there must be many more users waiting to get an appreciation of your site.
Thank you.

[4444sport.com]

@radex
@LEVSKI7

It seems that you have had a problem with some sites in the past. We regret that, but we have nothing to do with the mentioned sites Malubit and/or Adkinsbet.
If you have reasons to believe we do, please share your evidence. If you do not have any substantial evidence, please stop making false and baseless accusations.

Thank you.

Dont make it that deeper problem if someone is accusing or thinking false about your site instead make them learn about your legitimacy by serving your gambler the best you can be.

It is normal in this forum that accusation and critics are there specially those who had been working in other site that might be triggered by your presence .

If they are wrong then prove it .

_______________________________________________________________

welcome to the forum anyway.

I agree with your statement, however it would be nice if OP could show many more things that could make the forum members fall in love, when reading the thread its reason for being tends to be confused, it seems too much to be a "reputation" thread and the truth would like to see more details of the site, as I do, there must be many more users waiting to get an appreciation of your site.
Thank you.

We do appreciate the suggestions from users. At the moment we are preparing a promotion, which will be posted in the next days.

[panjul07]

We do appreciate the suggestions from users. At the moment we are preparing a promotion, which will be posted in the next days.

Sounds good, but make sure that your promotion is attractive from player's perspective so you will get good interest from potential participants.
Anyway, do you have a plan to add casino games in the future or you are focusing to be sports betting site only?

[4444sport.com]

What is the minimum stake on your site?

The minimum stake per bet is 5 EUR/USD.

We do appreciate the suggestions from users. At the moment we are preparing a promotion, which will be posted in the next days.

Sounds good, but make sure that your promotion is attractive from player's perspective so you will get good interest from potential participants.
Anyway, do you have a plan to add casino games in the future or you are focusing to be sports betting site only?

We already have a contract with a Casino Provider regarding the casino and live casino.
We will try to implement this casino in a few weeks. We received the request from more users that they prefer to play at the casino as well.
The promotion that we will run on the forum will be completely free to participate for users. There might be only a limit for the number of participants.

[hello_good_sir]

Are you committed to not performing any KYC regardless of regulatory pressures?

Seems like that you have a license from Costa Rica. What happens if they ask you to perform KYC?

Would you still allow anonymous accounts to cash out? If not, I think it may be misleading to advertise no KYC as one of your features.

[Naficopa]

Are you committed to not performing any KYC regardless of regulatory pressures?

Seems like that you have a license from Costa Rica. What happens if they ask you to perform KYC?

Would you still allow anonymous accounts to cash out? If not, I think it may be misleading to advertise no KYC as one of your features.

It seems that in Costa Rica this is not a problem as KYC verification is not needed:

We choose Costa Rica license since it allows users from much more countries to play on our website, as well as to eliminate the needs of the KYC for all of our players.
The only jurisdictions that are not allowed to play on our site are Costa Rica and USA.

It seems unlikely that any government would not require verification of casino users. If this is the case in Costa Rica, it means it's a great place to register business. Although this freedom will probably not last long.

[MrcMrc]

The point that got my attention was the fact that the minimum bet is a bit high $5 minimum bet is still on a high side, I will suggests since your site is a new one you should lower you minimum bet to allow small players bet on your site.

[Naficopa]

The point that got my attention was the fact that the minimum bet is a bit high $5 minimum bet is still on a high side, I will suggests since your site is a new one you should lower you minimum bet to allow small players bet on your site.

4444sport does not charge additional fees for withdrawals. If the minimal bets were much lower, I can imagine how big the costs would be if low betting users wanted to cash out a few bucks every now and then.

[rodskee]

The point that got my attention was the fact that the minimum bet is a bit high $5 minimum bet is still on a high side, I will suggests since your site is a new one you should lower you minimum bet to allow small players bet on your site.

4444sport does not charge additional fees for withdrawals. If the minimal bets were much lower, I can imagine how big the costs would be if low betting users wanted to cash out a few bucks every now and then.

Still 5$ as a minimum bet are high specially in low budget gamblers in which only wanted to try their luck increasing money or wanted to have a small fun in time.

most gambling site allows player to at least put a bet with 2$ or even lower at some point .

But yeah i must admit that without additional fee for withdrawal is also a good part of their site.

[AmoreJaz]

The point that got my attention was the fact that the minimum bet is a bit high $5 minimum bet is still on a high side, I will suggests since your site is a new one you should lower you minimum bet to allow small players bet on your site.

4444sport does not charge additional fees for withdrawals. If the minimal bets were much lower, I can imagine how big the costs would be if low betting users wanted to cash out a few bucks every now and then.

Still 5$ as a minimum bet are high specially in low budget gamblers in which only wanted to try their luck increasing money or wanted to have a small fun in time.

most gambling site allows player to at least put a bet with 2$ or even lower at some point .

But yeah i must admit that without additional fee for withdrawal is also a good part of their site.

that's where they are getting their earnings to accommodate the free withdrawals. but since they are just new here, they should also get the interest of small rollers as well. however, if not, they need to find a way how to get those relatively medium to high rollers.
there are several top bookies here that allow small bets, so that's one of their challenges here. to compete getting those small bettors from established bookies

[Adzivu]

Did anyone get an unsolicited message from 4444sport in their inbox to register and try the site?

I find that really strange.

[bitgov]

Did anyone get an unsolicited message from 4444sport in their inbox to register and try the site?

I find that really strange.

Better check very carefully if the address from you got the message is 100% compatible with 4444sport. It's very easy to get confused with the number of fours. Surely, scammers will try to take advantage of this by sending links to phishing websites.

[4444sport.com]

Did anyone get an unsolicited message from 4444sport in their inbox to register and try the site?

I find that really strange.

There were some players who had doubts about our site. That is why we have chosen to send some personal invitations to a few players.
If you do not accept, sorry for bothering.

[bitgov]

Did anyone get an unsolicited message from 4444sport in their inbox to register and try the site?

I find that really strange.

There were some players who had doubts about our site. That is why we have chosen to send some personal invitations to a few players.
If you do not accept, sorry for bothering.

I don't think anyone should blame you for that, but some users are very sensitive.
It is possible that you do not know about it yet, but if someone reports it to the administration, for sending such messages you can very easily be banned for at least a few days. So I rather recommend caution

[dustboy]

Did anyone get an unsolicited message from 4444sport in their inbox to register and try the site?

I find that really strange.

There were some players who had doubts about our site. That is why we have chosen to send some personal invitations to a few players.
If you do not accept, sorry for bothering.

Lesson learned for you, not all users are welcome to private message especially if the users do not know about your site. If you want to invites some users to clear their doubt, it would be better if you open a review bounty publicly. Ask user to try your site and make a honest review then you give them a small reward.

[4444sport.com]

We will take your suggestion into consideration.
We have a new promo that will be posted tomorrow.
It will be hold weekly. The number of participants will be limited.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

We will take your suggestion into consideration.
We have a new promo that will be posted tomorrow.
It will be hold weekly. The number of participants will be limited.

Great info! It's nice that you are very dynamic. It's also a good idea to have the promotion over the weekend. This is the best time for gamblers to test new various things, because, as you know, then everyone have the most free time for hobbies

[bislom]

We will take your suggestion into consideration.
We have a new promo that will be posted tomorrow.
It will be hold weekly. The number of participants will be limited.

Great info! It's nice that you are very dynamic. It's also a good idea to have the promotion over the weekend. This is the best time for gamblers to test new various things, because, as you know, then everyone have the most free time for hobbies

Can people with a lower rank also join these promotion?

[4444sport.com]

We will take your suggestion into consideration.
We have a new promo that will be posted tomorrow.
It will be hold weekly. The number of participants will be limited.

Great info! It's nice that you are very dynamic. It's also a good idea to have the promotion over the weekend. This is the best time for gamblers to test new various things, because, as you know, then everyone have the most free time for hobbies

Can people with a lower rank also join these promotion?

It will be limited to senior member and higher ranks.

[bislom]

Ok but it seems that many people then can not join the promotion. can you change it so new players can also join

[tomek009966]

Ok but it seems that many people then can not join the promotion. can you change it so new players can also join

Well, that's a great idea.

[acroman08]

Ok but it seems that many people then can not join the promotion. can you change it so new players can also join

Well, that's a great idea.

eh, not really. I've seen a lot of promotions/give-aways being abused by people who use multiple newbie accounts to join the promotion. I think they made a good decision with this one.

There were some players who had doubts about our site. That is why we have chosen to send some personal invitations to a few players.
If you do not accept, sorry for bothering.

I suggest refraining from sending messages like that. you could get banned if someone reported you sending unsolicited messages to the members.

[rodskee]

Ok but it seems that many people then can not join the promotion. can you change it so new players can also join

Ok but it seems that many people then can not join the promotion. can you change it so new players can also join

Well, that's a great idea.

accounts that created 4 days apart , and also active in this thread for asking about promotion? yeah  just like mentioned by acroman88 possible abuser/cheater of  giveaways and promotions.

There were some players who had doubts about our site. That is why we have chosen to send some personal invitations to a few players.
If you do not accept, sorry for bothering.

I suggest refraining from sending messages like that. you could get banned if someone reported you sending unsolicited messages to the members.

Maybe OP has no idea about this so yeah best to warn Him as some account here don't wanna be contacted via PM.

[fortunecrypto]

Did anyone get an unsolicited message from 4444sport in their inbox to register and try the site?

I find that really strange.

There were some players who had doubts about our site. That is why we have chosen to send some personal invitations to a few players.
If you do not accept, sorry for bothering.

The invitation should be in your official thread not on your inbox you can post your promotion here and ask who wants to get an invite, you'll be flag for doing this, it's ok for people to have doubts about a new site, your task is to make them believers to your project by being transparent and answering their queries here in your official thread.

[4444sport.com]

Later today the promotion will be posted in the appropriate topic.
Once this is done, I will notify the users here as well about it.

Today there are some entertaining games in the Spanish la Liga as well.

[robelneo]

Later today the promotion will be posted in the appropriate topic.
Once this is done, I will notify the users here as well about it.

Don't go out of your own thread to promote your promotion, it's spamming, and stop sending messages it will get you in trouble, people here are looking at active threads to check for new promotions people will notice it if you want people to get across these promotions and giveaways launch a signature campaign, so many members here will see it, and take part on it, do it the right and your account will be safe and trusted.

[dustboy]

We will take your suggestion into consideration.
We have a new promo that will be posted tomorrow.
It will be hold weekly. The number of participants will be limited.

Great info! It's nice that you are very dynamic. It's also a good idea to have the promotion over the weekend. This is the best time for gamblers to test new various things, because, as you know, then everyone have the most free time for hobbies

Can people with a lower rank also join these promotion?

Depends...If it will be free promotion, I am sure have a limit for higher rank is better choice so no chance for abuse but if it will be paid promotion where participants need to make bet or need to pay an entry free, it is fine to skip the rank requirement.

[4444sport.com]

Thank you for your advice guys.
We will not promote the promotion in this topic, we will only make a small announcement here when the promotion is posted in the promotions thread.
We will also launch a review campaign in the next week, where all suggestions are welcome (negative/positive/neutral are all welcome).

[mardaed]

Thank you for your advice guys.
We will not promote the promotion in this topic, we will only make a small announcement here when the promotion is posted in the promotions thread.
We will also launch a review campaign in the next week, where all suggestions are welcome (negative/positive/neutral are all welcome).

Review campaigns are always nice for people. if i can give you some advice, don't make it to small and let people with lower ranks also try to give their opinion.
You can have experienced bettors who have a low rank in the forum. Their opnion is also important imo.
There are some other bookmakers who also have this campaign.

[coin-investor]

Thank you for your advice guys.
We will not promote the promotion in this topic, we will only make a small announcement here when the promotion is posted in the promotions thread.
We will also launch a review campaign in the next week, where all suggestions are welcome (negative/positive/neutral are all welcome).

Do you mean a review campaign just like what 1XBIT is holding right now, it's a good idea and highly recommended be sure to only accept higher rank members with a good reputation in the gambling community to avoid people from abusing this campaign of course it should not be moderated topic for transparency.

[TimeTeller]

Thank you for your advice guys.
We will not promote the promotion in this topic, we will only make a small announcement here when the promotion is posted in the promotions thread.
We will also launch a review campaign in the next week, where all suggestions are welcome (negative/positive/neutral are all welcome).

Do you mean a review campaign just like what 1XBIT is holding right now, it's a good idea and highly recommended be sure to only accept higher rank members with a good reputation in the gambling community to avoid people from abusing this campaign of course it should not be moderated topic for transparency.

While mardaed above is suggesting to accept low rank members also, you are suggesting to accept high ranking members only.
I believe, it is good to have both but not newbies with first post just to join the campaign.
There are some players with low rank levels and you can review their post history to verify that they are indeed gamblers.
Varying opinions will give you good insights for the improvement of the site.

[stomachgrowls]

Thank you for your advice guys.
We will not promote the promotion in this topic, we will only make a small announcement here when the promotion is posted in the promotions thread.
We will also launch a review campaign in the next week, where all suggestions are welcome (negative/positive/neutral are all welcome).

Do you mean a review campaign just like what 1XBIT is holding right now, it's a good idea and highly recommended be sure to only accept higher rank members with a good reputation in the gambling community to avoid people from abusing this campaign of course it should not be moderated topic for transparency.

While mardaed above is suggesting to accept low rank members also, you are suggesting to accept high ranking members only.
I believe, it is good to have both but not newbies with first post just to join the campaign.
There are some players with low rank levels and you can review their post history to verify that they are indeed gamblers.
Varying opinions will give you good insights for the improvement of the site.

Cant really blamed off on why hed suggested on sticking with higher rank ones because abuse is always there but its true that they should set out neither Jr. member above at least which is considerable.

As 4444sport.com told that we shouldnt talk about marketing plans and discussions on this main thread of theirs because it would really just derailed up on the primary purpose of an ANN thread.

@OP, you should continue on your plans and turns out that it would be something that interesting and find out if it would be worth or not.

[rodskee]

Thank you for your advice guys.
We will not promote the promotion in this topic, we will only make a small announcement here when the promotion is posted in the promotions thread.
We will also launch a review campaign in the next week, where all suggestions are welcome (negative/positive/neutral are all welcome).

It's good that you are listening to the advises given here in your own thread and also thanks for trying your best to engage in conversation because this will benefits your site surely.

and try to make sure that abusers of your events will be penalized .

That review campaign is always bring good effect in many site that tried to bring interest here in forum specially if you are open in good and bad result because this will Help you improving your site for long term effect .

[4444sport.com]

Hi everyone, we would like to introduce to you our weekly prediction challenge where you can win $1,000 weekly.
Please visit our weekly promotion thread for more information - 4444sport.com Weekly Prediction Challenge

[4444sport.com]

[Cryptock]

Hi everyone, we would like to introduce to you our weekly prediction challenge where you can win $1,000 weekly.
Please visit our weekly promotion thread for more information - 4444sport.com Weekly Prediction Challenge

Great idea and great prize! I am sure that the number of registrations will start to increase as the prices of cryptocurrencies 
I have one question about the contest. Will the winner be the one who guesses the greatest number of results, or will you choose him in some other way? (This is not clearly stated)

[notblox1]

Hi everyone, we would like to introduce to you our weekly prediction challenge where you can win $1,000 weekly.
Please visit our weekly promotion thread for more information - 4444sport.com Weekly Prediction Challenge

Are we suppose to manually write all result on that topic because I don't see any template and it will be a mess, or is predictions done on your website?
Maybe you should refine your rules because they are unclear now, and look how other betting websites are doing their prediction competitions in games and round board.

[4444sport.com]

Hi everyone, we would like to introduce to you our weekly prediction challenge where you can win $1,000 weekly.
Please visit our weekly promotion thread for more information - 4444sport.com Weekly Prediction Challenge

Are we suppose to manually write all result on that topic because I don't see any template and it will be a mess, or is predictions done on your website?
Maybe you should refine your rules because they are unclear now, and look how other betting websites are doing their prediction competitions in games and round board.

I just replied in the promotions topic.
You can use the format that was used by the first user.
Which rules do you refer to that should be refined ?

[4444sport.com]

[bislom]

Hi everyone, we would like to introduce to you our weekly prediction challenge where you can win $1,000 weekly.
Please visit our weekly promotion thread for more information - 4444sport.com Weekly Prediction Challenge

Are we suppose to manually write all result on that topic because I don't see any template and it will be a mess, or is predictions done on your website?
Maybe you should refine your rules because they are unclear now, and look how other betting websites are doing their prediction competitions in games and round board.

I just replied in the promotions topic.
You can use the format that was used by the first user.
Which rules do you refer to that should be refined ?

Please make promotions also available for new users on the forum

[notblox1]

Which rules do you refer to that should be refined ?

It was not clear that winner must correctly predict all 16 matches that is very hard or almost impossible.
Better idea is to give smaller consolidation prize for one player who gets most correct results if nobody gets all 16 matches.

[24Kt]

Which rules do you refer to that should be refined ?

It was not clear that winner must correctly predict all 16 matches that is very hard or almost impossible.
Better idea is to give smaller consolidation prize for one player who gets most correct results if nobody gets all 16 matches.

This kind of promo is similar what I have seen in betja. And yes, they are giving consolation prizes for those who got the highest correct answers. Because with 16 matches, would be too difficult to get it all correct. So if they can provide rewards for the highest number of correct answers, would be very nice. But based from their post in games and rounds, only the one who will predict right from all 16 matches will get the prize. I hope the 4444sport team will re-consider their rules here. Also, they said no editing of the post, can they track all the posts? They should do this in the site itself so they know the history changes of the player.

[Jawhead999]

Please make promotions also available for new users on the forum

I disagree that will lead many people abusing the contest, someone can create a bunch accounts and submit different predictions. Minimum Jr. Member rank is enough, not to mention there's a chance will be abused but far less.

Also, they said no editing of the post, can they track all the posts? They should do this in the site itself so they know the history changes of the player.

Just hover your pointer on the date of user's post, if they edited the post you'll see a sign of Last edited:.... so using this forum is fine.

[Chato1977]

Please make promotions also available for new users on the forum

I disagree that will lead many people abusing the contest, someone can create a bunch accounts and submit different predictions. Minimum Jr. Member rank is enough, not to mention there's a chance will be abused but far less.

actually that is His main objective , accounts like that has beenw aiting for their Army of alt accounts to make bunch of funds from the events .

Also, they said no editing of the post, can they track all the posts? They should do this in the site itself so they know the history changes of the player.

Just hover your pointer on the date of user's post, if they edited the post you'll see a sign of Last edited:.... so using this forum is fine.

Yups there is editing happened.

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For the team Welcome here ,

[Strongkored]

Which rules do you refer to that should be refined ?

It was not clear that winner must correctly predict all 16 matches that is very hard or almost impossible.
Better idea is to give smaller consolidation prize for one player who gets most correct results if nobody gets all 16 matches.

The prize which is only given if someone is able to answer correctly all the matches makes this promo less attention from members on this forum because it is almost impossible even only guessing 1X2.
Maybe the Op can consider reducing the number of matches that have to be guessed and there is still a prize for the one who answers the most correctly even though it's only a small amount of prizes

[4444sport.com]

Which rules do you refer to that should be refined ?

It was not clear that winner must correctly predict all 16 matches that is very hard or almost impossible.
Better idea is to give smaller consolidation prize for one player who gets most correct results if nobody gets all 16 matches.

The prize which is only given if someone is able to answer correctly all the matches makes this promo less attention from members on this forum because it is almost impossible even only guessing 1X2.
Maybe the Op can consider reducing the number of matches that have to be guessed and there is still a prize for the one who answers the most correctly even though it's only a small amount of prizes

We have decided that from next week on, there will be a consolidation price for the player that has predicted the most outcomes.

[BitcoinAccepted]

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We have decided that from next week on, there will be a consolidation price for the player that has predicted the most outcomes.

[/quote]

That's really great that you consider giving consolation prize to players that will get most of the right prediction. Is there any other promotion coming in the future? I think a honest review from high rank or trusted users in the forum is a good idea since high rank members could be trusted and could give real honest review about your website.

[dustboy]

We have decided that from next week on, there will be a consolidation price for the player that has predicted the most outcomes.

You offered nice prize for the free prediction contest but the contest is too hard if winner is the only one who have 16 correct predictions. If I were you, I would prefer to have easier contest with lower prizepool. i.e Predict few matches (5-10 matches) with prizepool of $100-$200 which will be shared to those who have the most correct prediction.

[4444sport.com]

[bislom]

I want to know more about the limits, i contacted the live chat they say every competition has their own limits but i want to need it more specific

[Lanatsa]

I want to know more about the limits, i contacted the live chat they say every competition has their own limits but i want to need it more specific

Have you contacted them on their email?
support@4444sport.com

Its 24/7 as declared which means you could get some response on that.

The live chat is only online
daily from 11.00 - 21.00 CET.

https://4444sport.com/pages/contactus

[4444sport.com]

I want to know more about the limits, i contacted the live chat they say every competition has their own limits but i want to need it more specific

The more popular competitions have higher limits. These limits differ from league to league. Some examples are UEFA Champions League, NHL, NBA.
Easiest way to check the limit is by clicking on the "Max" text in the bet slip, where you can see the Maximum bet amount.
You can already see the limit without placing the bet.

[4444sport.com]

[4444sport.com]

[brassnuts]

I've just deposited 0.015 BTC at 4444. Will place some bets over the weekend and then, if I have anything left, try to withdraw on Monday.

I'll post about my experiences here.

[Sipgate]

Did a withdraw request 10 hours ago.
They say it takes up to 72 hours for a withdraw in Livechat.

[panjul07]

Did a withdraw request 10 hours ago.
They say it takes up to 72 hours for a withdraw in Livechat.

Yes, the information is also available in their T&C page point #7.5
Since it is being said that all withdrawal will be processed within 72 hours, means that you may get it faster before 72 hours.
Hope it wont take that long and I think 4444sports should change this policy as it might be the one that makes people do not want to play here.
Most other bookies implementing quick/instant withdrawal, logically 4444sports as a new bookie should compete with other bookies especially about the speed of withdrawal.

[khaled0111]

They, probably, process withdrawals manually so they can have the time to verify the legitimacy of bets/wins and to be sure that there was no abuse of any kind. It's understandable since they don't enforce kyc.
But due to the high volatility of cryptocurrencies, delays up to 72 hours can be an issue and may cause inconvenience for their users. They should allow instant withdrawals for small mounts, at least.

[4444sport.com]

They, probably, process withdrawals manually so they can have the time to verify the legitimacy of bets/wins and to be sure that there was no abuse of any kind. It's understandable since they don't enforce kyc.
But due to the high volatility of cryptocurrencies, delays up to 72 hours can be an issue and may cause inconvenience for their users. They should allow instant withdrawals for small mounts, at least.

We aim to process withdrawals as soon as possible. Usually it is processed more faster than within the 72 hour timeframe.

Did a withdraw request 10 hours ago.
They say it takes up to 72 hours for a withdraw in Livechat.

Your withdrawal was processed today already.
(I assume your username on the forum is the same as on our site)

[4444sport.com]

[bislom]

i read the kyc is not required there, can some players confirm that they cashed out?
for me its important to stay anonymous so no kyc would be ideal

[4444sport.com]

i read the kyc is not required there, can some players confirm that they cashed out?
for me its important to stay anonymous so no kyc would be ideal

We do not require any kind of KYC.
All players can gamble anonymous on our site without verification.

[4444sport.com]

[bislom]

i read the kyc is not required there, can some players confirm that they cashed out?
for me its important to stay anonymous so no kyc would be ideal

We do not require any kind of KYC.
All players can gamble anonymous on our site without verification.

Are dutch players allowed to play here? and are you sure there is no kyc ?

[brassnuts]

I just requested a pretty big withdrawal. I'll post here again when it's received.

[peter0425]

i read the kyc is not required there, can some players confirm that they cashed out?
for me its important to stay anonymous so no kyc would be ideal

We do not require any kind of KYC.
All players can gamble anonymous on our site without verification.

Are dutch players allowed to play here? and are you sure there is no kyc ?

For now surely they are not requiring KYC , but lets see if you Hit a jackpot or at least win a 6 figures , maybe rules will change instantly   

as we have seen that much drama here in forum , that many new gambling sites or even those older one that ask for KYC once withdrawal comes with big amount .

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Welcome to the forum 444sport.com and hope you are not one of those i mentioned above .

[4444sport.com]

i read the kyc is not required there, can some players confirm that they cashed out?
for me its important to stay anonymous so no kyc would be ideal

We do not require any kind of KYC.
All players can gamble anonymous on our site without verification.

Are dutch players allowed to play here? and are you sure there is no kyc ?

We do not require any KYC. Players can stay completely anonymous on our betting site.

We will also launch another promotion these days, together with the existing one.

[4444sport.com]

[bislom]

i read the kyc is not required there, can some players confirm that they cashed out?
for me its important to stay anonymous so no kyc would be ideal

We do not require any kind of KYC.
All players can gamble anonymous on our site without verification.

Are dutch players allowed to play here? and are you sure there is no kyc ?

We do not require any KYC. Players can stay completely anonymous on our betting site.

We will also launch another promotion these days, together with the existing one.

Ok, but I hope if I won some money that it is still anonymous

[AmoreJaz]

i read the kyc is not required there, can some players confirm that they cashed out?
for me its important to stay anonymous so no kyc would be ideal

We do not require any kind of KYC.
All players can gamble anonymous on our site without verification.

Are dutch players allowed to play here? and are you sure there is no kyc ?

We do not require any KYC. Players can stay completely anonymous on our betting site.

We will also launch another promotion these days, together with the existing one.

Ok, but I hope if I won some money that it is still anonymous

why not test them if they will honour their words? but maybe only with small amount, don't take risk yet with big amount. so far no complaints with withdrawal. but it is understandable as they are new in the playing field. as much as possible they don't want issues or complaints.
i understand where youre coming from. some casinos indeed ask for unreasonable requirements when their player wins big, just to stall the payment or to avoid the payment.

[sovie]

i read the kyc is not required there, can some players confirm that they cashed out?
for me its important to stay anonymous so no kyc would be ideal

We do not require any kind of KYC.
All players can gamble anonymous on our site without verification.

Are dutch players allowed to play here? and are you sure there is no kyc ?

We do not require any KYC. Players can stay completely anonymous on our betting site.

We will also launch another promotion these days, together with the existing one.

Ok, but I hope if I won some money that it is still anonymous

The casino representative confirmed twice that KYC is not required in any case. You don't have to deposit millions if you want to check it. The minimum deposit is (if I good remember) only $10, so if you still have doubt just check it out.

[brassnuts]

Almost 36 hours since cashout request, and nothing yet. They do say wait up to 72 hours so I will give them that time.

I will post again if the money is received or when the 72 hours is up.

[rodskee]

Almost 36 hours since cashout request, and nothing yet. They do say wait up to 72 hours so I will give them that time.

I will post again if the money is received or when the 72 hours is up.

Why not share the details about the answer from the team?

why took that long for withdrawal? how much is the amount why they are taking this time?

sometimes you must be detailed in posting since we don't see any problem as you clarified that KYC thing and the Location you have in which not banned from the site.

[younger41]

Hello guys, I'm new to the forum but I've been following and reading it for a long time. Last week I opened an account at this bookmaker and deposited around 190e, after the first winning bet I withdraw 50e and continued to gamble, on Friday morning I withdraw another 100e, while in on Monday I tried to withdraw another 400e, on live chat and the rules they told me that I would wait for 72 hours and that there would be no problems, but after 96 hours nothing.

This morning i got email from support:   Hi,

I want to refer you to our Terms and Conditions:

7.5 All withdrawals will be processed within 72 hours, unless further review is required. This decision will be based on the gaming activity and the placed bets.

Best regards,
Customer Support Team
https://4444sport.com/

I tried to go to live chat to ask what the problem is, but they are offline even though it says it works from 11 a.m., 11 a.m. has already passed

I expect an answer from the bookmaker during the day and I will share it with you on the forum, I have pictures of all transactions and conversations on the company that I will post here

[Haunebu]

Almost 36 hours since cashout request, and nothing yet. They do say wait up to 72 hours so I will give them that time.

I will post again if the money is received or when the 72 hours is up.

You need to post screenshots etc to support your claims since it's difficult to believe whatever you are stating without proper proof.

I expect an answer from the bookmaker during the day and I will share it with you on the forum, I have pictures of all transactions and conversations on the company that I will post here

If you can successfully prove your statements, 4444sport would be in trouble since the accusations against them keep rising constantly which is bad news for a site that has started advertising their services in this forum recently.

[younger41]

Of course I have all the pictures and evidence. Right now I'm corresponding with Sophia on live chat, but the only answer from her is: "Hi good day I'm Sophia and welcome to 4444sport.com"

https://ibb.co/TK4vd1T

[brassnuts]

Here is a shot of the withdrawal and the time it was requested.

https://ibb.co/CBbsTyG

[younger41]

Still no one responds to the email as well as the forum. the only answer I got:
I'm afraid we'll run out of our money 

They only once answer: https://ibb.co/b5LVTr1

[4444sport.com]

@younger41
We already have send you an email about the case. Our team has detected that you were betting on events on purpose where you had a massive and unfair advantage, most probably provided by tipster services.
The odds you have chosen implied a winning probability of 50%, but the real probability to win was much bigger and you know that very well.
We want to remind you that this is not allowed and is a violation of our terms. Therefore, all your bets have been voided.
We have decided to give you your deposited money back.
You can login to your account, and request the remaining funds from your balance.

Note: Unfortunately there are some players who want to exploit the situation with incorrect displayed odds in our software.
A good example is what happened with the match Belenenses - Benfica, Where the home team was infected with covid19, and started the match with only 9 players.
At the moment the odds for this match were available, the software provider and corresponding odds were not aware of the covid situation and offered the normal odds.
There were users, who were trying to exploit this situation and we consider this as a way of exploit our software on the platform on purpose and this is a violation of our terms.

I want to refer you to the terms:

10.10 Company reserves the right to close down existing accounts without explanation. In this event, or in the event of an account closure by a customer the gull balance will be paid out unless any fraudulent (e.g. Arbitrage, etc.) behavior is suspected. In case of fraudulent behavior, winnings will be voided and deposits will be confiscated or refunded, at Company's sole discretion, after we deduct the corresponding administrative and transaction fees and any fees that Company is obliged to pay to the competent authorities due to a customer’s complaint. Company also reserves the right to report to the appropriate authorities, if any customer is involved in any form of suspected fraudulent behavior.

10.11 As "Arbitrage" Company means the method certain players can use in order to abuse Sportsbook offers to their advantage. In such cases, we reserve the right to void bets, deduct winnings and remaining funds or return user's initial deposit at Company's discretion. Indicators, including but not limited, that gives Company strong reasons to believe that a bettor is abusing our offers using the arbitrage system.

10.12 We reserve the right to void and withhold any or all winnings made by any Player, where we have reasonable grounds to believe that the said Player is acting or has acted in liaison with an attempt to defraud or damage the Company and/or the Services and/or the Platform in any way.


@brassnuts
You have placed nearly 300 bets, so it will take some time to verify all your bets.

[LEVSKI7]

I earned a lot of money from Benfica at a high odds. But that's why you have to monitor the movement of odds or a forecast from Tipster in time.but there was also information on Facebook groups and many people won good sums. they showed slips with over 10k euros. Benfica was a golden match  

[brassnuts]

I placed some bets on Benfica but they were understandably voided. So that should not come into your thoughts when reviewing the legitimate bets that I placed.

@younger41
We already have send you an email about the case. Our team has detected that you were betting on events on purpose where you had a massive and unfair advantage, most probably provided by tipster services.
The odds you have chosen implied a winning probability of 50%, but the real probability to win was much bigger and you know that very well.
We want to remind you that this is not allowed and is a violation of our terms. Therefore, all your bets have been voided.
We have decided to give you your deposited money back.
You can login to your account, and request the remaining funds from your balance.

Note: Unfortunately there are some players who want to exploit the situation with incorrect displayed odds in our software.
A good example is what happened with the match Belenenses - Benfica, Where the home team was infected with covid19, and started the match with only 9 players.
At the moment the odds for this match were available, the software provider and corresponding odds were not aware of the covid situation and offered the normal odds.
There were users, who were trying to exploit this situation and we consider this as a way of exploit our software on the platform on purpose and this is a violation of our terms.

I want to refer you to the terms:

10.10 Company reserves the right to close down existing accounts without explanation. In this event, or in the event of an account closure by a customer the gull balance will be paid out unless any fraudulent (e.g. Arbitrage, etc.) behavior is suspected. In case of fraudulent behavior, winnings will be voided and deposits will be confiscated or refunded, at Company's sole discretion, after we deduct the corresponding administrative and transaction fees and any fees that Company is obliged to pay to the competent authorities due to a customer’s complaint. Company also reserves the right to report to the appropriate authorities, if any customer is involved in any form of suspected fraudulent behavior.

10.11 As "Arbitrage" Company means the method certain players can use in order to abuse Sportsbook offers to their advantage. In such cases, we reserve the right to void bets, deduct winnings and remaining funds or return user's initial deposit at Company's discretion. Indicators, including but not limited, that gives Company strong reasons to believe that a bettor is abusing our offers using the arbitrage system.

10.12 We reserve the right to void and withhold any or all winnings made by any Player, where we have reasonable grounds to believe that the said Player is acting or has acted in liaison with an attempt to defraud or damage the Company and/or the Services and/or the Platform in any way.


@brassnuts
You have placed nearly 300 bets, so it will take some time to verify all your bets.

Please don't attempt to just void all of my bets, as about 50% of the bets I placed were live bets, which would not line up with the reasons you have given above for voiding all bets. It would not make any sense and it would be entirely disreputable.

[younger41]

The expected reaction from a desperate bookmaker, they don't allow you to win money.
Unlike the others I have not bet Befica, also i do not follow any tipsters. Shame on the bookmaker.
My lawyer will send you a warning before the lawsuit in the next few days. I have all the evidence that you are a fraud.

[4444sport.com]

I want to remind people that we have a new week with our ongoing promotion:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5373889.0

[keyscore44]

The expected reaction from a desperate bookmaker, they don't allow you to win money.
Unlike the others I have not bet Befica, also i do not follow any tipsters. Shame on the bookmaker.
My lawyer will send you a warning before the lawsuit in the next few days. I have all the evidence that you are a fraud.

I'm not on either side, but I'm very curious about this situation.

Conflict between a new bookmaker on the market and a brand new account on Bitcointalk.

Keep us informed about your lawyer's progress in this case please.

[24Kt]

The expected reaction from a desperate bookmaker, they don't allow you to win money.
Unlike the others I have not bet Befica, also i do not follow any tipsters. Shame on the bookmaker.
My lawyer will send you a warning before the lawsuit in the next few days. I have all the evidence that you are a fraud.

I'm not on either side, but I'm very curious about this situation.

Conflict between a new bookmaker on the market and a brand new account on Bitcointalk.

Keep us informed about your lawyer's progress in this case please.

This is interesting to follow, if indeed there will be lawsuit coming up or just a threat. Have he carefully read the terms of the site? Because he may really be violating some terms. But either way, both sides need to provide proofs. I haven't seen actual lawsuit stemming from this forum. Maybe this will be the first. I am wondering if he is really a newbie here and just happen to play in a new bookmaker here?

[LEVSKI7]

The rules of the site have no legal value. If he was in Europe he would condemn them and there would be compensation, but in Costa Rica it is completely absurd to achieve something

[sovie]

The rules of the site have no legal value. If he was in Europe he would condemn them and there would be compensation, but in Costa Rica it is completely absurd to achieve something

I think this is a user who knew very well what he was doing. He wanted to take advantage of that it is new bookmaker and now he is doing a show on Bitcointalk to scare and make pressure to get the money that he won unfairly.
More and more often I see such situations that the fresh Bitcointalk accounts reports an issue and starts doing drama. However, looking on behavior it is very clear that this is not a newbie, but someone with a lot of experience. He always has screenshots and a detailed description ready. In my opinion, they just want to take advantage of the fact that this is a brand new bookmaker so will scare and/or fall for their tricks. It is not possible for him to take any legal action. This is only part of the show.

[radex90]

Dont waste time with these scammers

10 make new sportsbook
20 steal customers deposit
30 close down sportsbook
40 goto 10

Fak them

[aleandromagno]

Dont waste time with these scammers

10 make new sportsbook
20 steal customers deposit
30 close down sportsbook
40 goto 10

Fak them

I wonder if you opened their website at all. Looking at the opinion of other users about you, there is not much truth in what you write.



I just wonder why you are doing this? Did they catch you cheating?

[radex90]

@aleandromagno

Fak off, pay attention to your own image

@bitcointalk users

I was there to fight against malubit, adkinsbet and now i am here to fight against these shitheads

[aleandromagno]

@aleandromagno

Fak off, pay attention to your own image

@bitcointalk users

I was there to fight against malubit, adkinsbet and now i am here to fight against these shitheads

Everyone has the right to write what he want as long as it complies with the forum rules.

But could you explain what 4444sport.com did to you? Or why do you think they are dishonest?

[brassnuts]

Still heard nothing from these guys.

The problem that is being mentioned here is that 4444 seem to be just voiding bets of people who win. Some people are going to win, because they are good at sports betting.

What the industry does is to limit winning bettors, they don't just void their bets.

[4444sport.com]

[younger41]

Still heard nothing from these guys.

The problem that is being mentioned here is that 4444 seem to be just voiding bets of people who win. Some people are going to win, because they are good at sports betting.

What the industry does is to limit winning bettors, they don't just void their bets.

The standard reaction of desperate bookmakers!
But even sadder than all that are these people defending them and they are on their side, I would like them all to experience the same problem as us. They defend some of their rules that no one has even broken, just to get 10$ freebet or some stupid bonus.
Tell me please is it forbidden to bet on the Champions League? Or I forbidden to win the bet?

https://ibb.co/R4p2tCy

[4444sport.com]

Still heard nothing from these guys.

The problem that is being mentioned here is that 4444 seem to be just voiding bets of people who win. Some people are going to win, because they are good at sports betting.

What the industry does is to limit winning bettors, they don't just void their bets.

The standard reaction of desperate bookmakers!
But even sadder than all that are these people defending them and they are on their side, I would like them all to experience the same problem as us. They defend some of their rules that no one has even broken, just to get 10$ freebet or some stupid bonus.
Tell me please is it forbidden to bet on the Champions League? Or I forbidden to win the bet?

https://ibb.co/R4p2tCy

This is not your entire betting history. You only placed these bets with a small amount, trying to cover your other bets were the odds did not represent the real value, and you know that very well.
You did not post your bets where you won unfair.
So if you want to post your bets, then post your other bets as well. Now you are just trying to mislead people here.

[younger41]

Still heard nothing from these guys.

The problem that is being mentioned here is that 4444 seem to be just voiding bets of people who win. Some people are going to win, because they are good at sports betting.

What the industry does is to limit winning bettors, they don't just void their bets.

The standard reaction of desperate bookmakers!
But even sadder than all that are these people defending them and they are on their side, I would like them all to experience the same problem as us. They defend some of their rules that no one has even broken, just to get 10$ freebet or some stupid bonus.
Tell me please is it forbidden to bet on the Champions League? Or I forbidden to win the bet?

https://ibb.co/R4p2tCy

This is not your entire betting history. You only placed these bets with a small amount, trying to cover your other bets were the odds did not represent the real value, and you know that very well.
You did not post your bets where you won unfair.
So if you want to post your bets, then post your other bets as well. Now you are just trying to mislead people here.

https://ibb.co/LpTcD0X
https://ibb.co/Gc0TYCb
https://ibb.co/6w2zWZg

when did I cheat here and what advantage did I get please explain to me?

[4444sport.com]

Still heard nothing from these guys.

The problem that is being mentioned here is that 4444 seem to be just voiding bets of people who win. Some people are going to win, because they are good at sports betting.

What the industry does is to limit winning bettors, they don't just void their bets.

The standard reaction of desperate bookmakers!
But even sadder than all that are these people defending them and they are on their side, I would like them all to experience the same problem as us. They defend some of their rules that no one has even broken, just to get 10$ freebet or some stupid bonus.
Tell me please is it forbidden to bet on the Champions League? Or I forbidden to win the bet?

https://ibb.co/R4p2tCy

This is not your entire betting history. You only placed these bets with a small amount, trying to cover your other bets were the odds did not represent the real value, and you know that very well.
You did not post your bets where you won unfair.
So if you want to post your bets, then post your other bets as well. Now you are just trying to mislead people here.

https://ibb.co/LpTcD0X
https://ibb.co/Gc0TYCb
https://ibb.co/6w2zWZg

when did I cheat here and what advantage did I get please explain to me?

The odds from the game City Archangels - Roxas Vanguards did not represent the correct value.
The odds at that moment were 1.90, but should be much lower. It was also not a surprise that your bet won with ease, since you already knew you were going to win it on the moment you placed the bet.
If people are using tipster services to exploit odds at the site, they will take the risk of their account being closed. This can be found in our Terms.
However, we gave this user his deposited funds back.

[brassnuts]

The odds at that moment were 1.90, but should be much lower.

If the odds should of been much lower, and you seem to be aware of this, then why weren't they much lower on your site?

It is your responsibility as a sports betting operator to have your house in order with an efficient and fair service.

It is absolutely not the industry standard to simply declare that you did not like the odds that your customer has taken and then declare the bets void. This is not even a debatable topic. You are in the wrong here 4444.sport, I am afraid.

Also, I do not know why you are mentioning tipster services. Almost every tipster service on the planet is affiliated with betting sites and offer affiliate links directly to the place where said bets should be placed.

[Cryptock]

when did I cheat here and what advantage did I get please explain to me?

The odds from the game City Archangels - Roxas Vanguards did not represent the correct value.
The odds at that moment were 1.90, but should be much lower. It was also not a surprise that your bet won with ease, since you already knew you were going to win it on the moment you placed the bet.
If people are using tipster services to exploit odds at the site, they will take the risk of their account being closed. This can be found in our Terms.
However, we gave this user his deposited funds back.

I don't want to defend or accuse anyone, but I don't think I understand everything.
You claim that the user has used Tipster service help, which is not allowed on your website.
Could you please explain how did you check that this bet was placed with Tipster help?
I have my suspicions that any bet could be voided in this way. Can you check if the player was informed for example by a neighbor or it was Tipster service?

[younger41]

What nonsense! I don't follow any tipsters or use their help!
If you find a tipster who sent the same match I bet give proof!
If you think the odds of 1.90 are not realistic, reduce it, or void that one bet, and not all!

[mitchr4]

when did I cheat here and what advantage did I get please explain to me?

The odds from the game City Archangels - Roxas Vanguards did not represent the correct value.
The odds at that moment were 1.90, but should be much lower. It was also not a surprise that your bet won with ease, since you already knew you were going to win it on the moment you placed the bet.
If people are using tipster services to exploit odds at the site, they will take the risk of their account being closed. This can be found in our Terms.
However, we gave this user his deposited funds back.

I don't want to defend or accuse anyone, but I don't think I understand everything.
You claim that the user has used Tipster service help, which is not allowed on your website.
Could you please explain how did you check that this bet was placed with Tipster help?
I have my suspicions that any bet could be voided in this way. Can you check if the player was informed for example by a neighbor or it was Tipster service?

Strange to see something like this. Players are difficult to win if accused of using tipster services. We don't know if someone is wearing it or not. So there is no need to conclude if that person cheated. Moreover, tips from tipster services do not fully win unless in the game there is a match fixing but it's very difficult to happen.

[younger41]

This forum simply must start banning scammers to advertise themselves and keep stealing ppl money

I absolutely agree! No one is even trying to help, just waiting for them to get a freebet or some bonus. I have problems with batchoin and playbetr and also no one called to support and help me, but when $ 10 freebet is shared, everyone is there to praise them!!!

It would be best for everyone to open their own bookmaker and start scam peoples in public without any shame.

[LUCKMCFLY]

i read the kyc is not required there, can some players confirm that they cashed out?
for me its important to stay anonymous so no kyc would be ideal

We do not require any kind of KYC.
All players can gamble anonymous on our site without verification.

I know this because I have bet here and one of the things that I have found great is the fact of anonymity and that the bets are always executed at the same time and everything is 100% verifiable, I have not had any problem with it. I think that if they continue like this it will be a great platform, 'I can say that I also lost a bet with PSG, it was really a huge surprise at Man City, at least for me.

[MonsterV]

This forum simply must start banning scammers to advertise themselves and keep stealing ppl money

I absolutely agree! No one is even trying to help, just waiting for them to get a freebet or some bonus. I have problems with batchoin and playbetr and also no one called to support and help me, but when $ 10 freebet is shared, everyone is there to praise them!!!

It would be best for everyone to open their own bookmaker and start scam peoples in public without any shame.

It looks obvious what is going on. you were placing bets on Champions League for only 50 EUR, and then place 300 EUR on a match where nobody ever heard of these team names?
And now you complain that Playbetr also had a problem with you ? Trying to cheat is asking for problems.
Playbetr is a sponsor of PSG, so who would be right here? If I may give you a friendly advice: Just play fair on bookies, and there won't be any problems.

i read the kyc is not required there, can some players confirm that they cashed out?
for me its important to stay anonymous so no kyc would be ideal

We do not require any kind of KYC.
All players can gamble anonymous on our site without verification.

I know this because I have bet here and one of the things that I have found great is the fact of anonymity and that the bets are always executed at the same time and everything is 100% verifiable, I have not had any problem with it. I think that if they continue like this it will be a great platform, 'I can say that I also lost a bet with PSG, it was really a huge surprise at Man City, at least for me.

PSG managed to take a 0-1 advantage, but City was just to good I think.

[younger41]

This forum simply must start banning scammers to advertise themselves and keep stealing ppl money

I absolutely agree! No one is even trying to help, just waiting for them to get a freebet or some bonus. I have problems with batchoin and playbetr and also no one called to support and help me, but when $ 10 freebet is shared, everyone is there to praise them!!!

It would be best for everyone to open their own bookmaker and start scam peoples in public without any shame.

It looks obvious what is going on. you were placing bets on Champions League for only 50 EUR, and then place 300 EUR on a match where nobody ever heard of these team names?
And now you complain that Playbetr also had a problem with you ? Trying to cheat is asking for problems.
Playbetr is a sponsor of PSG, so who would be right here? If I may give you a friendly advice: Just play fair on bookies, and there won't be any problems.

So if they are a PSG sponsor they must always be right, is that your conclusion? The biggest nonsense I've ever heard! 1xbet is a sponsor of the French league and Olympique Lyonnais, so they are not fraudsters according to you, they are sponsors of a popular club and league, a great conclusion!
This bookmaker allows bets of 2-3k euros on all leagues, so I don't know why the problem is if I bet 300 euros. this bookmaker brags about having a great range of sports and leagues, and then they make a problem when you bet a lower league.
Obviously I'm not the only one who has a problem with this bookmaker, as far as I can see no one on the forum has yet successfully withdraw their money. When you're already talking like that, try to open an account yourself and bet for a couple of days so we can see you.

When you already mention my problem with playbetr.com, you are free to add betcoin.ag to that list, they took all the money from my account without the right to a deposit refund, and they will not attach any evidence! I've been betting for years, I've only recently started playing at crypto bookmakers, and I'm certainly not crazy about opening multiple accounts at one bookmaker!

it's really scary how you betting members defend each other on the forum. Players have no rights, you take their money without 1 proof that they cheated!

[brassnuts]

It's now 72 hours since I requested the above withdrawal from 4444. I have not received an email of any kind from them since I requested said withdrawal.

I placed many bets there, all standard bets on big markets. I won some, I lost some, but fortunately I made some profit. It appears 4444 do not like punters who land on the good side of luck.

Here are some examples of the bets I placed, and I am happy to post the rest if anyone is interested.








I strongly recommend that no-one bet here whatsoever, until at least 4444 come up with some sort of sound reasoning for the delay in the process of the withdrawal. As it stands 4444 are a brand new company who lack any type of integrity at all.

It does not take much in terms of logic to conclude that there's a high probability 4444sport has no intention to run a fair sportsbook and is more than likely an exit scam in the making.

[4444sport.com]

@brassnuts
We already answered you in previous posts. You have placed nearly 300 bets, and it take some time to verify these bets and the validity of it.
Pleae check our Terms:

7.5 All withdrawals will be processed within 72 hours, unless further review is required. This decision will be based on the gaming activity and the placed bets.

[brassnuts]

@brassnuts
We already answered you in previous posts. You have placed nearly 300 bets, and it take some time to verify these bets and the validity of it.
Pleae check our Terms:

7.5 All withdrawals will be processed within 72 hours, unless further review is required. This decision will be based on the gaming activity and the placed bets.

All my bets were on big markets. There is no other books taking 3 days to verify things in this situation on these type of markets.

You need to do the right thing if you want your business to gain any traction.

[4444sport.com]

[Wiwo]

Great to see you have such a matches lineup on your platform, I was wondering if you have any welcome bonuses for this season am considering registering an account on your site but i will want to know your T&C to know better about your conditions for withdrawal.

[younger41]

Great to see you have such a matches lineup on your platform, I was wondering if you have any welcome bonuses for this season am considering registering an account on your site but i will want to know your T&C to know better about your conditions for withdrawal.

I'll tell you the rules, if you win money, they won't pay you.

[khaled0111]

The odds from the game City Archangels - Roxas Vanguards did not represent the correct value.
The odds at that moment were 1.90, but should be much lower. It was also not a surprise that your bet won with ease, since you already knew you were going to win it on the moment you placed the bet.

If this is the only instance where he took advantage of wrong odds then there is a possibility that it was a coincidence or he just got lucky. It's not enough to conclude that he was trying to cheat or using tipsters services.
A reasonable and fair resolution for both parties could have been to void that particular bet and pay his other legit wins instead of voiding all bets. Just my two cents.

[LEVSKI7]

Great to see you have such a matches lineup on your platform, I was wondering if you have any welcome bonuses for this season am considering registering an account on your site but i will want to know your T&C to know better about your conditions for withdrawal.

I'll tell you the rules, if you win money, they won't pay you.

That was the rule when the site was called Malubit and then Adkinsbet. But at least the nonsense this man writes amuses us.

[younger41]

The odds from the game City Archangels - Roxas Vanguards did not represent the correct value.
The odds at that moment were 1.90, but should be much lower. It was also not a surprise that your bet won with ease, since you already knew you were going to win it on the moment you placed the bet.

If this is the only instance where he took advantage of wrong odds then there is a possibility that it was a coincidence or he just got lucky. It's not enough to conclude that he was trying to cheat or using tipsters services.
A reasonable and fair resolution for both parties could have been to void that particular bet and pay his other legit wins instead of voiding all bets. Just my two cents.

Then look at the post from this memebr, which is absolutely right!
If I have already made an advantage in that bet, give me void just for it and pay the rest.
In your first month of work still no one has successfully withdraw money from you bookmaker.
I haven't even received the deposit you said I would get yet!

[4444sport.com]

Hello everyone, we are trying to keep our ANN thread clean and lately there are some users that was posting off topic and spam posts and most of them are not players of our gambling site.
We already reported it to moderators and some posts were removed. We appreciate their efforts on helping us to remove spam posts on our ANN thread and we understand that they cannot monitor our thread 24/7 .
A user suggested to us that we should create our self moderated topic in order to delete spam and off topic posts.
Tomorrow, a new self moderated topic will be created. We try to delete as few messages as possible, and we still open for suggestions and feedback.


@younger41
Your withdrawal will be processed tomorrow.