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[aleandromagno]

Dont waste time with these scammers

10 make new sportsbook
20 steal customers deposit
30 close down sportsbook
40 goto 10

Fak them

I wonder if you opened their website at all. Looking at the opinion of other users about you, there is not much truth in what you write.



I just wonder why you are doing this? Did they catch you cheating?

[radex90]

@aleandromagno

Fak off, pay attention to your own image

@bitcointalk users

I was there to fight against malubit, adkinsbet and now i am here to fight against these shitheads

[aleandromagno]

@aleandromagno

Fak off, pay attention to your own image

@bitcointalk users

I was there to fight against malubit, adkinsbet and now i am here to fight against these shitheads

Everyone has the right to write what he want as long as it complies with the forum rules.

But could you explain what 4444sport.com did to you? Or why do you think they are dishonest?

[brassnuts]

Still heard nothing from these guys.

The problem that is being mentioned here is that 4444 seem to be just voiding bets of people who win. Some people are going to win, because they are good at sports betting.

What the industry does is to limit winning bettors, they don't just void their bets.

[4444sport.com]

[younger41]

Still heard nothing from these guys.

The problem that is being mentioned here is that 4444 seem to be just voiding bets of people who win. Some people are going to win, because they are good at sports betting.

What the industry does is to limit winning bettors, they don't just void their bets.

The standard reaction of desperate bookmakers!
But even sadder than all that are these people defending them and they are on their side, I would like them all to experience the same problem as us. They defend some of their rules that no one has even broken, just to get 10$ freebet or some stupid bonus.
Tell me please is it forbidden to bet on the Champions League? Or I forbidden to win the bet?

https://ibb.co/R4p2tCy

[4444sport.com]

Still heard nothing from these guys.

The problem that is being mentioned here is that 4444 seem to be just voiding bets of people who win. Some people are going to win, because they are good at sports betting.

What the industry does is to limit winning bettors, they don't just void their bets.

The standard reaction of desperate bookmakers!
But even sadder than all that are these people defending them and they are on their side, I would like them all to experience the same problem as us. They defend some of their rules that no one has even broken, just to get 10$ freebet or some stupid bonus.
Tell me please is it forbidden to bet on the Champions League? Or I forbidden to win the bet?

https://ibb.co/R4p2tCy

This is not your entire betting history. You only placed these bets with a small amount, trying to cover your other bets were the odds did not represent the real value, and you know that very well.
You did not post your bets where you won unfair.
So if you want to post your bets, then post your other bets as well. Now you are just trying to mislead people here.

[younger41]

Still heard nothing from these guys.

The problem that is being mentioned here is that 4444 seem to be just voiding bets of people who win. Some people are going to win, because they are good at sports betting.

What the industry does is to limit winning bettors, they don't just void their bets.

The standard reaction of desperate bookmakers!
But even sadder than all that are these people defending them and they are on their side, I would like them all to experience the same problem as us. They defend some of their rules that no one has even broken, just to get 10$ freebet or some stupid bonus.
Tell me please is it forbidden to bet on the Champions League? Or I forbidden to win the bet?

https://ibb.co/R4p2tCy

This is not your entire betting history. You only placed these bets with a small amount, trying to cover your other bets were the odds did not represent the real value, and you know that very well.
You did not post your bets where you won unfair.
So if you want to post your bets, then post your other bets as well. Now you are just trying to mislead people here.

https://ibb.co/LpTcD0X
https://ibb.co/Gc0TYCb
https://ibb.co/6w2zWZg

when did I cheat here and what advantage did I get please explain to me?

[4444sport.com]

Still heard nothing from these guys.

The problem that is being mentioned here is that 4444 seem to be just voiding bets of people who win. Some people are going to win, because they are good at sports betting.

What the industry does is to limit winning bettors, they don't just void their bets.

The standard reaction of desperate bookmakers!
But even sadder than all that are these people defending them and they are on their side, I would like them all to experience the same problem as us. They defend some of their rules that no one has even broken, just to get 10$ freebet or some stupid bonus.
Tell me please is it forbidden to bet on the Champions League? Or I forbidden to win the bet?

https://ibb.co/R4p2tCy

This is not your entire betting history. You only placed these bets with a small amount, trying to cover your other bets were the odds did not represent the real value, and you know that very well.
You did not post your bets where you won unfair.
So if you want to post your bets, then post your other bets as well. Now you are just trying to mislead people here.

https://ibb.co/LpTcD0X
https://ibb.co/Gc0TYCb
https://ibb.co/6w2zWZg

when did I cheat here and what advantage did I get please explain to me?

The odds from the game City Archangels - Roxas Vanguards did not represent the correct value.
The odds at that moment were 1.90, but should be much lower. It was also not a surprise that your bet won with ease, since you already knew you were going to win it on the moment you placed the bet.
If people are using tipster services to exploit odds at the site, they will take the risk of their account being closed. This can be found in our Terms.
However, we gave this user his deposited funds back.

[brassnuts]

The odds at that moment were 1.90, but should be much lower.

If the odds should of been much lower, and you seem to be aware of this, then why weren't they much lower on your site?

It is your responsibility as a sports betting operator to have your house in order with an efficient and fair service.

It is absolutely not the industry standard to simply declare that you did not like the odds that your customer has taken and then declare the bets void. This is not even a debatable topic. You are in the wrong here 4444.sport, I am afraid.

Also, I do not know why you are mentioning tipster services. Almost every tipster service on the planet is affiliated with betting sites and offer affiliate links directly to the place where said bets should be placed.

[Cryptock]

when did I cheat here and what advantage did I get please explain to me?

The odds from the game City Archangels - Roxas Vanguards did not represent the correct value.
The odds at that moment were 1.90, but should be much lower. It was also not a surprise that your bet won with ease, since you already knew you were going to win it on the moment you placed the bet.
If people are using tipster services to exploit odds at the site, they will take the risk of their account being closed. This can be found in our Terms.
However, we gave this user his deposited funds back.

I don't want to defend or accuse anyone, but I don't think I understand everything.
You claim that the user has used Tipster service help, which is not allowed on your website.
Could you please explain how did you check that this bet was placed with Tipster help?
I have my suspicions that any bet could be voided in this way. Can you check if the player was informed for example by a neighbor or it was Tipster service?

[younger41]

What nonsense! I don't follow any tipsters or use their help!
If you find a tipster who sent the same match I bet give proof!
If you think the odds of 1.90 are not realistic, reduce it, or void that one bet, and not all!

[mitchr4]

when did I cheat here and what advantage did I get please explain to me?

The odds from the game City Archangels - Roxas Vanguards did not represent the correct value.
The odds at that moment were 1.90, but should be much lower. It was also not a surprise that your bet won with ease, since you already knew you were going to win it on the moment you placed the bet.
If people are using tipster services to exploit odds at the site, they will take the risk of their account being closed. This can be found in our Terms.
However, we gave this user his deposited funds back.

I don't want to defend or accuse anyone, but I don't think I understand everything.
You claim that the user has used Tipster service help, which is not allowed on your website.
Could you please explain how did you check that this bet was placed with Tipster help?
I have my suspicions that any bet could be voided in this way. Can you check if the player was informed for example by a neighbor or it was Tipster service?

Strange to see something like this. Players are difficult to win if accused of using tipster services. We don't know if someone is wearing it or not. So there is no need to conclude if that person cheated. Moreover, tips from tipster services do not fully win unless in the game there is a match fixing but it's very difficult to happen.

[younger41]

This forum simply must start banning scammers to advertise themselves and keep stealing ppl money

I absolutely agree! No one is even trying to help, just waiting for them to get a freebet or some bonus. I have problems with batchoin and playbetr and also no one called to support and help me, but when $ 10 freebet is shared, everyone is there to praise them!!!

It would be best for everyone to open their own bookmaker and start scam peoples in public without any shame.

[LUCKMCFLY]

i read the kyc is not required there, can some players confirm that they cashed out?
for me its important to stay anonymous so no kyc would be ideal

We do not require any kind of KYC.
All players can gamble anonymous on our site without verification.

I know this because I have bet here and one of the things that I have found great is the fact of anonymity and that the bets are always executed at the same time and everything is 100% verifiable, I have not had any problem with it. I think that if they continue like this it will be a great platform, 'I can say that I also lost a bet with PSG, it was really a huge surprise at Man City, at least for me.

[MonsterV]

This forum simply must start banning scammers to advertise themselves and keep stealing ppl money

I absolutely agree! No one is even trying to help, just waiting for them to get a freebet or some bonus. I have problems with batchoin and playbetr and also no one called to support and help me, but when $ 10 freebet is shared, everyone is there to praise them!!!

It would be best for everyone to open their own bookmaker and start scam peoples in public without any shame.

It looks obvious what is going on. you were placing bets on Champions League for only 50 EUR, and then place 300 EUR on a match where nobody ever heard of these team names?
And now you complain that Playbetr also had a problem with you ? Trying to cheat is asking for problems.
Playbetr is a sponsor of PSG, so who would be right here? If I may give you a friendly advice: Just play fair on bookies, and there won't be any problems.

i read the kyc is not required there, can some players confirm that they cashed out?
for me its important to stay anonymous so no kyc would be ideal

We do not require any kind of KYC.
All players can gamble anonymous on our site without verification.

I know this because I have bet here and one of the things that I have found great is the fact of anonymity and that the bets are always executed at the same time and everything is 100% verifiable, I have not had any problem with it. I think that if they continue like this it will be a great platform, 'I can say that I also lost a bet with PSG, it was really a huge surprise at Man City, at least for me.

PSG managed to take a 0-1 advantage, but City was just to good I think.

[younger41]

This forum simply must start banning scammers to advertise themselves and keep stealing ppl money

I absolutely agree! No one is even trying to help, just waiting for them to get a freebet or some bonus. I have problems with batchoin and playbetr and also no one called to support and help me, but when $ 10 freebet is shared, everyone is there to praise them!!!

It would be best for everyone to open their own bookmaker and start scam peoples in public without any shame.

It looks obvious what is going on. you were placing bets on Champions League for only 50 EUR, and then place 300 EUR on a match where nobody ever heard of these team names?
And now you complain that Playbetr also had a problem with you ? Trying to cheat is asking for problems.
Playbetr is a sponsor of PSG, so who would be right here? If I may give you a friendly advice: Just play fair on bookies, and there won't be any problems.

So if they are a PSG sponsor they must always be right, is that your conclusion? The biggest nonsense I've ever heard! 1xbet is a sponsor of the French league and Olympique Lyonnais, so they are not fraudsters according to you, they are sponsors of a popular club and league, a great conclusion!
This bookmaker allows bets of 2-3k euros on all leagues, so I don't know why the problem is if I bet 300 euros. this bookmaker brags about having a great range of sports and leagues, and then they make a problem when you bet a lower league.
Obviously I'm not the only one who has a problem with this bookmaker, as far as I can see no one on the forum has yet successfully withdraw their money. When you're already talking like that, try to open an account yourself and bet for a couple of days so we can see you.

When you already mention my problem with playbetr.com, you are free to add betcoin.ag to that list, they took all the money from my account without the right to a deposit refund, and they will not attach any evidence! I've been betting for years, I've only recently started playing at crypto bookmakers, and I'm certainly not crazy about opening multiple accounts at one bookmaker!

it's really scary how you betting members defend each other on the forum. Players have no rights, you take their money without 1 proof that they cheated!

[brassnuts]

It's now 72 hours since I requested the above withdrawal from 4444. I have not received an email of any kind from them since I requested said withdrawal.

I placed many bets there, all standard bets on big markets. I won some, I lost some, but fortunately I made some profit. It appears 4444 do not like punters who land on the good side of luck.

Here are some examples of the bets I placed, and I am happy to post the rest if anyone is interested.








I strongly recommend that no-one bet here whatsoever, until at least 4444 come up with some sort of sound reasoning for the delay in the process of the withdrawal. As it stands 4444 are a brand new company who lack any type of integrity at all.

It does not take much in terms of logic to conclude that there's a high probability 4444sport has no intention to run a fair sportsbook and is more than likely an exit scam in the making.

[4444sport.com]

@brassnuts
We already answered you in previous posts. You have placed nearly 300 bets, and it take some time to verify these bets and the validity of it.
Pleae check our Terms:

7.5 All withdrawals will be processed within 72 hours, unless further review is required. This decision will be based on the gaming activity and the placed bets.

[brassnuts]

@brassnuts
We already answered you in previous posts. You have placed nearly 300 bets, and it take some time to verify these bets and the validity of it.
Pleae check our Terms:

7.5 All withdrawals will be processed within 72 hours, unless further review is required. This decision will be based on the gaming activity and the placed bets.

All my bets were on big markets. There is no other books taking 3 days to verify things in this situation on these type of markets.

You need to do the right thing if you want your business to gain any traction.