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December 01, 2024, 10:40:07 PM
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And as early as today, there are reports that once Ryan get over that one year ban on his head, he will go back but it will be in a exhibition fights, hmmm. Sound familiar but who could be his opponents though? either of the Paul Brothers for a cool $20 million start?

But he is at welterweight, meaning just 147 lbs, but the Paul Brothers are huge guys, and fighting around super middle-weight.

I still like Ryan having a rematch which Devin Haney, that could really be entertaining and can generate huge money between them.

His next fight has already been announced. It will be against Manny Pacquiao’s former opponent Rukiya Anpo. The crazy thing is that the PPV price for this exhibition will be more expensive than the Usyk vs. Fury rematch.

It is a decent stay busy fight for Ryan, but I am not sure that he is serious enough to return to real boxing. His only goal is to make a lot of money as an influencer and that is why he is chasing the Jake Paul fight.



Similar to what I have already mentioned on another boxing thread, King Ry's payperview will be more expensive because it will certainly have more demand than a championship fight with Tank Davis. We can clearly predict with confidence that every boxer near King Ry's weight division will certainly desire to challenge King Ry because he can gather much fans and much money in his fights.

I reckon that uncle Dana and the arab master Turki should offer something for King Ry to manage his career and leave Golden Boy. Terence Crawford appears that he will be under uncle Dana and master Turki's new boxing promotion that will be announced next year on January.

Yeah, but HE Turki should know that Ryan has some attitude so before signing, their contract should be air tight, not like what he did against Golden Boy here but fighting this fight without notifying them, and it's obvious this is a breach of contract.

Of course, if he goes with the Saudi, me might see him fighting the best at 140 lbs to 147 lbs. And it's surprising although I reckon that this is the walking weight or at least this is how natural his body at 153 lbs and so him and Anpo agreed to this weight.

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December 02, 2024, 01:29:58 AM
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And as early as today, there are reports that once Ryan get over that one year ban on his head, he will go back but it will be in a exhibition fights, hmmm. Sound familiar but who could be his opponents though? either of the Paul Brothers for a cool $20 million start?

But he is at welterweight, meaning just 147 lbs, but the Paul Brothers are huge guys, and fighting around super middle-weight.

I still like Ryan having a rematch which Devin Haney, that could really be entertaining and can generate huge money between them.

His next fight has already been announced. It will be against Manny Pacquiao’s former opponent Rukiya Anpo. The crazy thing is that the PPV price for this exhibition will be more expensive than the Usyk vs. Fury rematch.

It is a decent stay busy fight for Ryan, but I am not sure that he is serious enough to return to real boxing. His only goal is to make a lot of money as an influencer and that is why he is chasing the Jake Paul fight.


Similar to what I have already mentioned on another boxing thread, King Ry's payperview will be more expensive because it will certainly have more demand than a championship fight with Tank Davis. We can clearly predict with confidence that every boxer near King Ry's weight division will certainly desire to challenge King Ry because he can gather much fans and much money in his fights.

Ryan is still one of the cash cow no matter what. He could be acting crazy and all of that stuff, but that's how the fans love him and so he can still bring fans on the seat in the arena or buy his PPV fights even if it is very expensive for casual fans.

I reckon that uncle Dana and the arab master Turki should offer something for King Ry to manage his career and leave Golden Boy. Terence Crawford appears that he will be under uncle Dana and master Turki's new boxing promotion that will be announced next year on January.

He has been seen in Saudi and for sure there are talks of him and the powerful broker. It's all about the money and so he might be offer money that he can't refuse. If I'm not mistaken, Crawford is under the banner of Turki already as a brand ambassador or something like that. So he is already with him, that's why we saw his reaction when Crawford had a hard time against Madrimov because the whole Alvarez vs Crawford might be in jeopardy if Crawford lost that fight.

Who has been in Saudi, uncle Dana or King Ry? We can be quite certain that uncle Dana will be spending much of his time with master Turki because they will be organizing their new company. However, if you are telling me that this is King Ry then this should be very much exciting for all types of boxing fans and also fans of sports because this will be something similar if Tom Brady was traded to the San Francisco 49ers during the season of 2020 heheehehhe.

It appears that it will not only be Bud vs. Canelo for uncle Dana and master Turki's new boxing promotion on 2025. They might also have a rematch for King Ry vs. Devin hehehehehe.



After Devin Haney posted on his X account "The game hasn't been the same...it's time for me to come back," he received a response from Turki Alalshikh, who is chairman of the General Authority for Entertainment by Royal Decree of the Royal Court of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and who has made a name for himself as a boxing promoter through Riyadh Season.

"Do your job, champ," Turki Alalshikh wrote to Haney, later adding that he was expected in Riyadh.

As someone who has shown in recent days to have no filter under any circumstances, Ryan Garcia took the opportunity to jump on the bandwagon and responded to the tweet to propose himself as the opponent for an eventual rematch.

"We can arrange it in Riyadh if you wish, Mr. Turki ", KingRy wrote, to then put himself at your command and accept any condition to take him into account: "I will do everything you ask me to do, including drug tests every day. So please, if you can, make it happen."


Read in full https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/08/15/66be0abbca4741cd148b457b.html

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December 02, 2024, 09:54:27 AM
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^^ For me, there seems to be a beef between Canelo and HE Turki Alalshikh, so I doubt that he will ever fight in Saudi for now,



https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1820700851528196362

And it all started when Turki criticized Canelo for not wanting to fight Benavidez, and so Canelo felt that he is being disrespected. Also he could really earn more if he will go under the banner, but for now, Canelo might be thinking that he is great than boxing itself as he is the cash cow.

So everything from what he had after a couple of months ago has taken shape already. So we might be looking for Beterbiev vs Bivol rematch. And obviously we will have the rematch as well between Usyk and Fury before the end of the year.

Haney's name is also mentioned, so who knows, after the Anpo vs Garcia fight, we might see them next year in Saudi too.

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December 04, 2024, 04:30:06 AM
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^^ For me, there seems to be a beef between Canelo and HE Turki Alalshikh, so I doubt that he will ever fight in Saudi for now,



https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1820700851528196362

And it all started when Turki criticized Canelo for not wanting to fight Benavidez, and so Canelo felt that he is being disrespected. Also he could really earn more if he will go under the banner, but for now, Canelo might be thinking that he is great than boxing itself as he is the cash cow.

So everything from what he had after a couple of months ago has taken shape already. So we might be looking for Beterbiev vs Bivol rematch. And obviously we will have the rematch as well between Usyk and Fury before the end of the year.

Haney's name is also mentioned, so who knows, after the Anpo vs Garcia fight, we might see them next year in Saudi too.

I am very much quite certain that the roadmap of master Turki and uncle Dana will be a celebration on the greatness of the sport of boxing! Canelo might be angry, however, this is also a business. He cannot ignore the money to be created and the challenge of a superfight between him and Bud Crawford. I am quite certain Canelo speculates that he can have the victory against Bud.

Also, King Ry vs. Devin Haney is a certainty to be another fight that will be promoted and to occur in Saudi Arabia. What is the biggest holiday in Saudi Arabia?

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December 04, 2024, 06:00:13 AM
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^^ We will see about Canelo, we all know that he has full of pride, he bolted out of Golden Boy and up till now him and Oscar are still not seeing eye to eye. He had a huge contract before and then went to become a free agent or at least just signing for per fight basis with Eddie Hearn and other manager.

So I wouldn't be surprised if he is not on boat with HE Turki's plan and proposal with regards to boxing right now. It's good money though, but Canelo might think that he is already settled and so he is ok if Dana and Turki will exclude him on the plans to take over boxing in the next couple of years.

 
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December 05, 2024, 02:28:15 AM
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@Yaunfitda. However, Canelo's anger on Golden Boy and his anger on master Turki is very different because why would Canelo be truly angry if master Turki's criticism is very much true? The fans are shouting for Canelo vs. Benavidez because this is the best challenger for Canelo and Canelo will be angry if he is being criticized for avoiding Benavidez? Hehehehe this is very headshaking.

In any case, uncle Dana and master Turki will certainly make boxing great again heheheh.

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December 05, 2024, 06:29:58 PM
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^^ For me, there seems to be a beef between Canelo and HE Turki Alalshikh, so I doubt that he will ever fight in Saudi for now,



https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1820700851528196362

And it all started when Turki criticized Canelo for not wanting to fight Benavidez, and so Canelo felt that he is being disrespected. Also he could really earn more if he will go under the banner, but for now, Canelo might be thinking that he is great than boxing itself as he is the cash cow.

So everything from what he had after a couple of months ago has taken shape already. So we might be looking for Beterbiev vs Bivol rematch. And obviously we will have the rematch as well between Usyk and Fury before the end of the year.

Haney's name is also mentioned, so who knows, after the Anpo vs Garcia fight, we might see them next year in Saudi too.

Turki mentioned any amount yet? In the past months Canelo was asking around $100M right?  I think what he meant being disrespected is that the amount offered is not enough or maybe he changed his mind this time its more than 100M?

Garcia vs Haney 2 is unlikely to happen. Ryan after receiving lots of criticism from the Haney camp will probably asks a lot more money also. His Anpo fight I think is just his tune up but he pis likely more interested to Tank vs him again.
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December 05, 2024, 06:41:42 PM
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@Yaunfitda. However, Canelo's anger on Golden Boy and his anger on master Turki is very different because why would Canelo be truly angry if master Turki's criticism is very much true? The fans are shouting for Canelo vs. Benavidez because this is the best challenger for Canelo and Canelo will be angry if he is being criticized for avoiding Benavidez? Hehehehe this is very headshaking.

In any case, uncle Dana and master Turki will certainly make boxing great again heheheh.
Simple: he doesn't take this constructive criticism lightly, maybe he feel that he is being pin-pointed by Turki himself and so it's a lose-lose situation. His defense is that whoever he fights, there will be criticism on him.

I agree that the criticism is true and as fans we wanted Canelo vs Benavidez, and when he says that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican when he just fought Jaime Munguia two fights ago? So for me, Canelo might not happen if Canelo head is too big and doesn't want to accept the constructive criticism before throw on him.

 
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December 05, 2024, 07:49:52 PM
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^^ For me, there seems to be a beef between Canelo and HE Turki Alalshikh, so I doubt that he will ever fight in Saudi for now,

And it all started when Turki criticized Canelo for not wanting to fight Benavidez, and so Canelo felt that he is being disrespected. Also he could really earn more if he will go under the banner, but for now, Canelo might be thinking that he is great than boxing itself as he is the cash cow.

So everything from what he had after a couple of months ago has taken shape already. So we might be looking for Beterbiev vs Bivol rematch. And obviously we will have the rematch as well between Usyk and Fury before the end of the year.

Haney's name is also mentioned, so who knows, after the Anpo vs Garcia fight, we might see them next year in Saudi too.

Turki mentioned any amount yet? In the past months Canelo was asking around $100M right?  I think what he meant being disrespected is that the amount offered is not enough or maybe he changed his mind this time its more than 100M?

I'm not sure if Turki has mentioned any amount as far as Canelo goes, but it seems that Canelo is not interested for now, although I also heard that $100m. But Turki hasn't replied since his criticism of Canelo.

Garcia vs Haney 2 is unlikely to happen. Ryan after receiving lots of criticism from the Haney camp will probably asks a lot more money also. His Anpo fight I think is just his tune up but he pis likely more interested to Tank vs him again.

Turki though might be interested, as he mentions Haney is one of those that he wanted to make a fight in Saudi. Garcia fighting Anpo could be just another money grab and tune up fight for him in preparation of his ban as it will be lifted in April if I'm not mistaken. So at least fighting in December, he might have shaken his ring rust and by the time around June he could be ready to make a comeback. Not necessarily against Haney, but a true boxing match.

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December 05, 2024, 10:37:40 PM
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^^ For me, there seems to be a beef between Canelo and HE Turki Alalshikh, so I doubt that he will ever fight in Saudi for now,



https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1820700851528196362

And it all started when Turki criticized Canelo for not wanting to fight Benavidez, and so Canelo felt that he is being disrespected. Also he could really earn more if he will go under the banner, but for now, Canelo might be thinking that he is great than boxing itself as he is the cash cow.

So everything from what he had after a couple of months ago has taken shape already. So we might be looking for Beterbiev vs Bivol rematch. And obviously we will have the rematch as well between Usyk and Fury before the end of the year.

Haney's name is also mentioned, so who knows, after the Anpo vs Garcia fight, we might see them next year in Saudi too.

I am very much quite certain that the roadmap of master Turki and uncle Dana will be a celebration on the greatness of the sport of boxing! Canelo might be angry, however, this is also a business. He cannot ignore the money to be created and the challenge of a superfight between him and Bud Crawford. I am quite certain Canelo speculates that he can have the victory against Bud.

I seeing that the roadmap is still Canelo vs Bud Crawford. Everything leads to Canelo still, as he is the cash cow, although Turki doesn't like what he see during the Crawford against Madrimov so for now they fight might not happen. Maybe we will see Bud fight again next year at 154 lbs and Turki gauging if he can make the weight at 168 lbs and see if he has a chance against Canelo before setting this plan.

Also, King Ry vs. Devin Haney is a certainty to be another fight that will be promoted and to occur in Saudi Arabia. What is the biggest holiday in Saudi Arabia?

Doesn't matter, Turki can create a holiday for the sake of boxing there so that many fans can watch. That's how influential this guy is, he already have February set for for the rematch between Bivol and Beterbiev, and then the Dubois defending his belt against Parker.

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December 06, 2024, 01:41:52 AM
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^^ We will see about Canelo, we all know that he has full of pride, he bolted out of Golden Boy and up till now him and Oscar are still not seeing eye to eye. He had a huge contract before and then went to become a free agent or at least just signing for per fight basis with Eddie Hearn and other manager.

So I wouldn't be surprised if he is not on boat with HE Turki's plan and proposal with regards to boxing right now. It's good money though, but Canelo might think that he is already settled and so he is ok if Dana and Turki will exclude him on the plans to take over boxing in the next couple of years.
Isn't he known as boxer who is more playing it safe for now, Canelo also has several businesses and he is full of wealth so I don't think it surprise if he refuses or disagrees with what HE Turkey has planned.
Indeed many people especially other boxers also criticized Canelo, but we all know who Canelo is and he is fighter who is considered gold so whatever Canelo decides will definitely not be changed by anyone.
On the other hand, in an interview session it also showed that Benavidez also doesn't really care about his desire to be able to fight Canelo, haha ​​now maybe both of them will focus on their respective goals.
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December 06, 2024, 06:26:28 AM
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@Yaunfitda. However, Canelo's anger on Golden Boy and his anger on master Turki is very different because why would Canelo be truly angry if master Turki's criticism is very much true? The fans are shouting for Canelo vs. Benavidez because this is the best challenger for Canelo and Canelo will be angry if he is being criticized for avoiding Benavidez? Hehehehe this is very headshaking.

In any case, uncle Dana and master Turki will certainly make boxing great again heheheh.
Simple: he doesn't take this constructive criticism lightly, maybe he feel that he is being pin-pointed by Turki himself and so it's a lose-lose situation. His defense is that whoever he fights, there will be criticism on him.

I agree that the criticism is true and as fans we wanted Canelo vs Benavidez, and when he says that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican when he just fought Jaime Munguia two fights ago? So for me, Canelo might not happen if Canelo head is too big and doesn't want to accept the constructive criticism before throw on him.

He does not take the truth lightly because he is very much afraid to fight David Benavidez heheheh. This Canelo is not anymore on a similar status as Pacman. This present Canelo is very similar to Tank Davis, an boxer who is acting similar to an ICO scammer hehehehe.

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December 06, 2024, 08:31:03 AM
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@Yaunfitda. However, Canelo's anger on Golden Boy and his anger on master Turki is very different because why would Canelo be truly angry if master Turki's criticism is very much true? The fans are shouting for Canelo vs. Benavidez because this is the best challenger for Canelo and Canelo will be angry if he is being criticized for avoiding Benavidez? Hehehehe this is very headshaking.

In any case, uncle Dana and master Turki will certainly make boxing great again heheheh.
Simple: he doesn't take this constructive criticism lightly, maybe he feel that he is being pin-pointed by Turki himself and so it's a lose-lose situation. His defense is that whoever he fights, there will be criticism on him.

I agree that the criticism is true and as fans we wanted Canelo vs Benavidez, and when he says that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican when he just fought Jaime Munguia two fights ago? So for me, Canelo might not happen if Canelo head is too big and doesn't want to accept the constructive criticism before throw on him.

He does not take the truth lightly because he is very much afraid to fight David Benavidez heheheh. This Canelo is not anymore on a similar status as Pacman. This present Canelo is very similar to Tank Davis, an boxer who is acting similar to an ICO scammer hehehehe.
And that's what most of us believed, that Canelo making a lot of excuses, but at the end of the day, he doesn't want to fight Benavidez or Morrell for that matter. And so this two monsters go up in weight at 175 lbs and fight each other.

I agree, most of the time, the truth hurt and that's what Turki is saying when he posted that tweet and so Canelo reacted negatively. We haven't heard who's Canelo next fight is, usually he fights in May, so by now we should be hearing so that he will have 8 full weeks of training. Maybe early next year, but I don't know who's next for him.

 
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@Yaunfitda. If master Turki finds a very acceptable opponent for Bud Crawford who also has a big name, this will certainly cause and begin Canelo's insignificance for the fans in the sport of boxing very much similar to Tank Davis. Their revenue on their events will decrease and this is where master Turki and uncle Dana can make them an offer to force them to fight the best challengers hehehehe.

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December 13, 2024, 09:37:54 PM
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Murodjon Akhmadaliev and Ricardo Espinoza fight, here is the official weigh-in,



Both make the weight, Murodjon Akhmadaliev (121lbs) vs Ricardo Espinoza Franco (121.6lbs).

So let's see if MJ Akhmadaliev can get back into the picture in the super bantamweight division. It's not that Inoue doesn't want to fight or has duck him, it's that Inoue has better plans and that he will be fighting in the US next year.

And with that, if he vacated the belt, Akhmadaliev might be another fighting that will be given the chance since he is a former champion. So this is a test that he needs to pass in order to be in the contention next year.

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December 13, 2024, 10:03:22 PM
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^ I checked the odds on this fight, and it shows the Murodjon Akhmadaliev is huge favorite. I think I will go with Akhmadaliev here by decision, the knockout was not that attractive at 1.40. I do hope that Espinoza will come with heavy hands and so we can see how Murodjon will handle that kind of power and maybe the fight going into distance.

The odds for Murodjon Akhmadaliev by decision is 3.x so that is huge but obviously, it's a big risk. So let's see, again, Espinoza might come firing very early in the fight and Murodjon doing the counter punching. Best of luck to those who are going to bet on this fight.

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December 14, 2024, 10:56:14 AM
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I really haven't paid that much attention to boxing in years.  My favorite kind of boxing is when the big boys are fighting and when they are good.  Holyfield, Tyson, Lennox Lew etc.  However I have tuned in, shamefully , to a couple of that doucher's fights.  Is he even close to being ready to fight a legitimate boxer or is that just never going to happen?  I'm guess that he really gains nothing from a loss.

I'm curious though, where are his match drawing, as in number of people watching/attended? Are there legit pro boxers beating him out in category?
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There was a major upset tonight as Jaime Munguia got knocked out in his hometown of Tijuana. His opponent, Bruno Surace, only had 4 knockouts in his previous 27 fights. Surace looked very outmatched and was losing every round, but as we know, Munguia is very careless with his defense. Tonight it came back to bite him in a classic “cherry pick gone wrong” moment.



I really haven't paid that much attention to boxing in years.  My favorite kind of boxing is when the big boys are fighting and when they are good.  Holyfield, Tyson, Lennox Lew etc.  However I have tuned in, shamefully , to a couple of that doucher's fights.  Is he even close to being ready to fight a legitimate boxer or is that just never going to happen?  I'm guess that he really gains nothing from a loss.

I'm curious though, where are his match drawing, as in number of people watching/attended? Are there legit pro boxers beating him out in category?

If the douche you are referring to is Jake Paul, I don’t believe he will fight a legitimate opponent until he is ready to cash out and move on from the sport. He will probably continue fighting weaker opponents until Canelo has aged a bit more and that will be his last fight. An older and smaller Canelo still beats him convincingly in my opinion.

As far as drawing power, Jake Paul is a bigger star than any boxer outside of Canelo, and even then it might be debatable after Jake, along with Mike Tyson, broke the state of Texas’ records for attendance and revenue which was previously held by Canelo.

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December 15, 2024, 10:17:58 AM
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^ I checked the odds on this fight, and it shows the Murodjon Akhmadaliev is huge favorite. I think I will go with Akhmadaliev here by decision, the knockout was not that attractive at 1.40. I do hope that Espinoza will come with heavy hands and so we can see how Murodjon will handle that kind of power and maybe the fight going into distance.

The odds for Murodjon Akhmadaliev by decision is 3.x so that is huge but obviously, it's a big risk. So let's see, again, Espinoza might come firing very early in the fight and Murodjon doing the counter punching. Best of luck to those who are going to bet on this fight.
It looks like you have thoroughly analysed the match before picking Akhmadaliev to win, but indeed if you look at what he has shown in each of his fights so far, it is certainly a smart decision to choose to bet on Akhmadaliev, especially if we want to find higher betting value in the fight, Akhmadaliev have excellent technical skills and the ability to survive in a long fight, so that could be an important factor if Espinoza provides strong resistance in the fight later.
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There was a big upset as Jaime Munguia was knockout by Bruno Surace in his hometown of Tijuana, Mexico.

Munguia was a huge favorite going into this fight and he has been looking to fight rival Puerto Rico's Edgar Berlanga after this one. But it's obvious that it might not happen for now, as Munguia will have to go back to the drawing board.

So this is a big challenge for him, but I think he can still make a name, he is still very young and maybe we can see a rematch between the two.

Murodjon Akhmadaliev knockout Espinoza in round 3, so there is no decision or fight going into distance.

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