Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[bbc.reporter]

I am presently very much confused. There was an announcement on this thread that King Ry will fight Rolly Romero and this will not be Pitbull Cruz. However, there was a video in Teddy Atlas' channel in youtube.com that mentioned King Ry's opponent will be Pitbull.

In any case, we can be quite certain that there very much will be more excitement if this opponent will be Pitbull Cruz who has a tactic similar to Mike Tyson but there is lesser head movement. This will be a danger for King Ry's left hook hheheheh!

Don't rely on Teddy Atlas though, he is not involved on any of this boxers, probably he mentioned it so that they have something to talk about in his podcast. You should follow HE Turki.



https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1881487525597925797

And if I remember it correctly, Pitbull will have a incoming fight this weekend against Angel Fierro. So everything has been set up already by the Saudis, there will be tune up fight for Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney before their much anticipated rematch.

He might only be late on his information. Also, it was not Teddy Atlas who mentioned this. There was another person in his podcast who asked Teddy Atlas his speculation on King Ry vs. Pitbull. I reckon the person who asked Teddy assumed that King Ry negotiated with Pitbull's team already.

However, this mistake should not be given importance. I reckon it would be better to speculate what would be the next fight for King Ry and Devin Haney if they have the victories on their next fight against Rolly and Polly heheheheh. I predict this will be King Ry vs. Haney 2.

[Yaunfitda]

I am presently very much confused. There was an announcement on this thread that King Ry will fight Rolly Romero and this will not be Pitbull Cruz. However, there was a video in Teddy Atlas' channel in youtube.com that mentioned King Ry's opponent will be Pitbull.

In any case, we can be quite certain that there very much will be more excitement if this opponent will be Pitbull Cruz who has a tactic similar to Mike Tyson but there is lesser head movement. This will be a danger for King Ry's left hook hheheheh!

Don't rely on Teddy Atlas though, he is not involved on any of this boxers, probably he mentioned it so that they have something to talk about in his podcast. You should follow HE Turki.

https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1881487525597925797

And if I remember it correctly, Pitbull will have a incoming fight this weekend against Angel Fierro. So everything has been set up already by the Saudis, there will be tune up fight for Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney before their much anticipated rematch.

He might only be late on his information. Also, it was not Teddy Atlas who mentioned this. There was another person in his podcast who asked Teddy Atlas his speculation on King Ry vs. Pitbull. I reckon the person who asked Teddy assumed that King Ry negotiated with Pitbull's team already.

Fair enough, and I would say that during the discussions here, the name of Pitbull Cruz has also surface so we might be getting the same source of the news that time that he is the potential opponent until HI Turki Alalshikh confirmed it in his social meida account that Ryan is now going to face Rolly Romero.

However, this mistake should not be given importance. I reckon it would be better to speculate what would be the next fight for King Ry and Devin Haney if they have the victories on their next fight against Rolly and Polly heheheheh. I predict this will be King Ry vs. Haney 2.

Yes, we will give it a pass, the most important thing is that both Ryan and Devin will have their tune up fights set already. And we can finally see them again, after a long time and for sure we are very excited and looking forward. And hopefully, the storyboard will be validated, we need to see them both winning that fight so that the rematch will happen as plan.

[TravelMug]

It's obvious that this is a tune up fight, but it can go wrong with him if he doesn't have the motivation to fight again and just going to like fight just for the money here. I remember Roy Jones Jr fighting in Australia against a unknown in Danny Green.

He is coming from a big win from Jeff Lacy, but obviously this version of Jones has somewhat been crack already as he had a lot of loses already. But he says that he can still fight, unfortunately he got the worst beating of his career and was knockout by Danny Green.

Possible to happen also as Thurman can travel that same route especially fighting inside the country that controvercies can take place, though we should wait for the fight and see how Thurman composed himself and make something to impress his fans, on the side, it's also a good exposure to his opponent's in case that things favor his side and create a much brighter career after beating Thurman.

He knows the risks for sure and that's why he love to travel to Australia to fight this young guy. For sure they have calculated everyone and so he needs to be very very ready as the crowd is going to be against him.

However, we have seen Thurman throughout his career and he could be familiar with that kind of hostility. Although I would agree that it is still the question whether he still has the same power that he got pre Manny Pacquiao lost or is he will be just another stepping stone by this young Australian fighter.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

It's obvious that this is a tune up fight, but it can go wrong with him if he doesn't have the motivation to fight again and just going to like fight just for the money here. I remember Roy Jones Jr fighting in Australia against a unknown in Danny Green.

He is coming from a big win from Jeff Lacy, but obviously this version of Jones has somewhat been crack already as he had a lot of loses already. But he says that he can still fight, unfortunately he got the worst beating of his career and was knockout by Danny Green.

Possible to happen also as Thurman can travel that same route especially fighting inside the country that controvercies can take place, though we should wait for the fight and see how Thurman composed himself and make something to impress his fans, on the side, it's also a good exposure to his opponent's in case that things favor his side and create a much brighter career after beating Thurman.

He knows the risks for sure and that's why he love to travel to Australia to fight this young guy. For sure they have calculated everyone and so he needs to be very very ready as the crowd is going to be against him.

However, we have seen Thurman throughout his career and he could be familiar with that kind of hostility. Although I would agree that it is still the question whether he still has the same power that he got pre Manny Pacquiao lost or is he will be just another stepping stone by this young Australian fighter.

I think Thurman is done already, he might win this fight though, but even if he will, he won't be cracking the top 5. Or even if he did, if he fight the list of champions right now, I do not think that he can won in the 140-147-lbs.

This is already a different generation and he is the outsider already. I'm seeing that he still wanted to fight because of money. He has no motivation, Manny really take out the best version of Keith when they six years ago.

[Baofeng]

I am presently very much confused. There was an announcement on this thread that King Ry will fight Rolly Romero and this will not be Pitbull Cruz. However, there was a video in Teddy Atlas' channel in youtube.com that mentioned King Ry's opponent will be Pitbull.

In any case, we can be quite certain that there very much will be more excitement if this opponent will be Pitbull Cruz who has a tactic similar to Mike Tyson but there is lesser head movement. This will be a danger for King Ry's left hook hheheheh!

I do understand, it's because in the beginning, there are two names floating for Ryan Garcia's comeback fight. First, it was Teo Lopez, however, it was scrapped as maybe the plan of Turki is to have Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia for a rematch, so it doesn't make sense for Ryan to take another champion.

And so Pitbull Cruz was the best option, but he declined, not that he doesn't want to fight Garcia, it's going to be a huge payday for him, but reports says that he wanted to see his fight with Fierro first, maybe he wants to gauge his performance before accepting the fight. But the Saudi's are not going to wait for it and so they have the next better option and that is Rolly Romero.

[TravelMug]

^^ And it will be a dangerous fight for Ryan if they chooses to go with Pitbull Cruz.

Rolly Romero has suffered 2 defeats already and should have lost    Ismael Barroso, but he was gifted with a win and then lost the belt next to Pitbull next. So Rolly doesn't look good in his last couple of fights and probably that's why he was cherry pick.

And the height though, Ryan might find it hard to deal with Pitbull as he was a smaller fighter. Here, Rolly is 5'8 so that is a better target for him.

[Fredomago]

It's obvious that this is a tune up fight, but it can go wrong with him if he doesn't have the motivation to fight again and just going to like fight just for the money here. I remember Roy Jones Jr fighting in Australia against a unknown in Danny Green.

He is coming from a big win from Jeff Lacy, but obviously this version of Jones has somewhat been crack already as he had a lot of loses already. But he says that he can still fight, unfortunately he got the worst beating of his career and was knockout by Danny Green.

Possible to happen also as Thurman can travel that same route especially fighting inside the country that controvercies can take place, though we should wait for the fight and see how Thurman composed himself and make something to impress his fans, on the side, it's also a good exposure to his opponent's in case that things favor his side and create a much brighter career after beating Thurman.

He knows the risks for sure and that's why he love to travel to Australia to fight this young guy. For sure they have calculated everyone and so he needs to be very very ready as the crowd is going to be against him.

However, we have seen Thurman throughout his career and he could be familiar with that kind of hostility. Although I would agree that it is still the question whether he still has the same power that he got pre Manny Pacquiao lost or is he will be just another stepping stone by this young Australian fighter.

I think Thurman is done already, he might win this fight though, but even if he will, he won't be cracking the top 5. Or even if he did, if he fight the list of champions right now, I do not think that he can won in the 140-147-lbs.

This is already a different generation and he is the outsider already. I'm seeing that he still wanted to fight because of money. He has no motivation, Manny really take out the best version of Keith when they six years ago.

After he suffered from that embarassing defeat against the people's champ for me he wanted to try but more on the money side now, knowing that the generation now are composed of tough fighters who really aiming to be on top, without that kind of dedications it's a going to be a rough and tough road to climb back, much better to take some fight and earn I think that's the goal as he still got his name and interest of his loyal fans and those gamblers who still supporting him will gives him decent amount of profits when the fight rolls.

[bbc.reporter]

^^ And it will be a dangerous fight for Ryan if they chooses to go with Pitbull Cruz.

Rolly Romero has suffered 2 defeats already and should have lost    Ismael Barroso, but he was gifted with a win and then lost the belt next to Pitbull next. So Rolly doesn't look good in his last couple of fights and probably that's why he was cherry pick.

And the height though, Ryan might find it hard to deal with Pitbull as he was a smaller fighter. Here, Rolly is 5'8 so that is a better target for him.

I reckon King Ry's original choice was Pitbull Cruz. This was before King Ry's team has spoken with the rich Arab master Turki. However, I speculate that after speaking with master Turki and after knowing master Turki's plan on King Ry vs. crying Haney 2, King Ry's team has changed their roadmap for 2025 and chose an more weaker opponent.

Also, why is master Turki always taking Ronaldo with him? Is master Turki doing sexy time with Ronaldo? There are people who say that Arabs are known to do this hehehehehee.

[btc_angela]

^^ And it will be a dangerous fight for Ryan if they chooses to go with Pitbull Cruz.

Rolly Romero has suffered 2 defeats already and should have lost    Ismael Barroso, but he was gifted with a win and then lost the belt next to Pitbull next. So Rolly doesn't look good in his last couple of fights and probably that's why he was cherry pick.

And the height though, Ryan might find it hard to deal with Pitbull as he was a smaller fighter. Here, Rolly is 5'8 so that is a better target for him.

I reckon King Ry's original choice was Pitbull Cruz. This was before King Ry's team has spoken with the rich Arab master Turki. However, I speculate that after speaking with master Turki and after knowing master Turki's plan on King Ry vs. crying Haney 2, King Ry's team has changed their roadmap for 2025 and chose an more weaker opponent.

Yeah, perhaps sitting down with Turki, they convinced Ryan to just go with Rolly Romero, much easier opponent for him as he can bully Rolly. Unlike Pitbull who are going to fight back, so much better choice of opponents. For Haney, it will be a dangerous fight for him as Ramirez is a former champion. But again, hopefully, they win their respective bout so that everything is going to be set for one of the biggest fight for this year.

Also, why is master Turki always taking Ronaldo with him? Is master Turki doing sexy time with Ronaldo? There are people who say that Arabs are known to do this hehehehehee.

So ask P. Diddy, Lol  . But what can you do? Turki is very powerful man and so he can take anyone he likes with him.

[Hirose UK]

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There is just risk from this fight, if Haney or Garcia have problems like injuries then it will clearly be very detrimental even though both are unlikely to experience something like that, what is clear is that after this fight both will have more emotions to meet soon and we will see fairly heated hype between Haney vs Garcia in the future.
Turki really made crazy card and in the rematch later what do you think whether Haney or Garcia will get the victory but for their fight hopefully there will be no drama that will happen and in the fight against Romero Garcia can be used as warm-up after receiving one-year ban.

Let's not get ourselves and think about those injuries, we can only hope that they will be healthy all throughout so that we can see the best version of this two fighters when they face again (without the peds on Ryan's system).

Ryan is still very young and for sure he is very much that active still even during his suspension. He even had a fight in Japan but they said that he got injured (I doubt that), so ring rust might not be a big thing for him.

It just thought about risk because we also know that there are some fighters who failed to do their fights and had to be postponed due to injury problems, we don't want that to happen to either Haney or Garcia so that later their fights can be carried out according to schedule and can show truly maximum fight.

Garcia is recognized by anyone that he is great and strong fighter, even no fighter has really been able to make Garcia have difficulty in winning, hopefully after this ban on fighting it will not affect him.

[bbc.reporter]

^^ And it will be a dangerous fight for Ryan if they chooses to go with Pitbull Cruz.

Rolly Romero has suffered 2 defeats already and should have lost    Ismael Barroso, but he was gifted with a win and then lost the belt next to Pitbull next. So Rolly doesn't look good in his last couple of fights and probably that's why he was cherry pick.

And the height though, Ryan might find it hard to deal with Pitbull as he was a smaller fighter. Here, Rolly is 5'8 so that is a better target for him.

I reckon King Ry's original choice was Pitbull Cruz. This was before King Ry's team has spoken with the rich Arab master Turki. However, I speculate that after speaking with master Turki and after knowing master Turki's plan on King Ry vs. crying Haney 2, King Ry's team has changed their roadmap for 2025 and chose an more weaker opponent.

Yeah, perhaps sitting down with Turki, they convinced Ryan to just go with Rolly Romero, much easier opponent for him as he can bully Rolly. Unlike Pitbull who are going to fight back, so much better choice of opponents. For Haney, it will be a dangerous fight for him as Ramirez is a former champion. But again, hopefully, they win their respective bout so that everything is going to be set for one of the biggest fight for this year.

Also, why is master Turki always taking Ronaldo with him? Is master Turki doing sexy time with Ronaldo? There are people who say that Arabs are known to do this hehehehehee.

So ask P. Diddy, Lol  . But what can you do? Turki is very powerful man and so he can take anyone he likes with him.

I reckon these opponents chosen for King Ry and Devin Haney by their teams and the rich Arab master Turki are similar to movies. These are only previews to the real movie which is King Ry vs. Haney 2 which will be organized for the tourist months in Saudi Arabia. This will be between October and March. I speculate that this rematch might be on October to begin the tourist months or on December during christmas time, the season where rich people will be spending their money hehehe.

[Baofeng]

Del Boy Chisora beats Otto Wallin to be the mandatory for the IBF belt,



So another big break for Derek here as he will have a chance again for the title. But I don't know if he can beat Dubois, although Daniel will have a fight with Parker and he needs to win that fight to keep his belt.

[TravelMug]

^^ I watched the highlights and Otto Wallin is really tough boxer, but the power of Chisora is too much and as you can see in the first knockdown, he stumbled and I say that it's just a matter of time that the referee will step up and stop the fight as Wallin is taking too much damage already.

Either way though, I do not think that he can beat Dubois or Parker. Chisora is old and wash up already, it was really a careful match making on the side of Derek and that's why he really looks good. But against a elite HW fighter, I do not see him winning.

[btc_angela]

^^ And it will be a dangerous fight for Ryan if they chooses to go with Pitbull Cruz.

Rolly Romero has suffered 2 defeats already and should have lost    Ismael Barroso, but he was gifted with a win and then lost the belt next to Pitbull next. So Rolly doesn't look good in his last couple of fights and probably that's why he was cherry pick.

And the height though, Ryan might find it hard to deal with Pitbull as he was a smaller fighter. Here, Rolly is 5'8 so that is a better target for him.

I reckon King Ry's original choice was Pitbull Cruz. This was before King Ry's team has spoken with the rich Arab master Turki. However, I speculate that after speaking with master Turki and after knowing master Turki's plan on King Ry vs. crying Haney 2, King Ry's team has changed their roadmap for 2025 and chose an more weaker opponent.

Yeah, perhaps sitting down with Turki, they convinced Ryan to just go with Rolly Romero, much easier opponent for him as he can bully Rolly. Unlike Pitbull who are going to fight back, so much better choice of opponents. For Haney, it will be a dangerous fight for him as Ramirez is a former champion. But again, hopefully, they win their respective bout so that everything is going to be set for one of the biggest fight for this year.

Also, why is master Turki always taking Ronaldo with him? Is master Turki doing sexy time with Ronaldo? There are people who say that Arabs are known to do this hehehehehee.

So ask P. Diddy, Lol  . But what can you do? Turki is very powerful man and so he can take anyone he likes with him.

I reckon these opponents chosen for King Ry and Devin Haney by their teams and the rich Arab master Turki are similar to movies. These are only previews to the real movie which is King Ry vs. Haney 2 which will be organized for the tourist months in Saudi Arabia. This will be between October and March. I speculate that this rematch might be on October to begin the tourist months or on December during christmas time, the season where rich people will be spending their money hehehe.

We can compare to it or simply it's the best move for now for Ryan and Devin, to fight someone that is very durable and good in paper but they can easily defeat them. So that is master Turki's plan and there are no denying that both teams can't refuse the offer of the powerful broker from Saudi.s

Yes, I do think that October will be the date of this superfight, and I reckon that this could be also with other huge fight, who knows, it could be in the same card as Crawford vs Canelo in Saudi?

If that happens then that could be the biggest fight in history.

[bittraffic]

Yes, I do think that October will be the date of this superfight, and I reckon that this could be also with other huge fight, who knows, it could be in the same card as Crawford vs Canelo in Saudi?

If that happens then that could be the biggest fight in history.

Sure.  The money is just peony for Turki, he can afford Canelo-Crawford and then co-main event is Garcia-Haney.  Although the result may still be Ryan, anyone who watched their fight would be very interested to watch the rematch to see it happen again.

These are just I think what we wanna see but if Turki feels like the entertainment is worth, he can make fights come to fruition.

[Fredomago]

Yes, I do think that October will be the date of this superfight, and I reckon that this could be also with other huge fight, who knows, it could be in the same card as Crawford vs Canelo in Saudi?

If that happens then that could be the biggest fight in history.

Sure.  The money is just peony for Turki, he can afford Canelo-Crawford and then co-main event is Garcia-Haney.  Although the result may still be Ryan, anyone who watched their fight would be very interested to watch the rematch to see it happen again.

These are just I think what we wanna see but if Turki feels like the entertainment is worth, he can make fights come to fruition.

I agree, and for sure the money is not a problem as he can set it up and bring it to the table if he seen that entertainment will be more exciting and for sure fans and viewers will be at his back to support the fights that he'll be providing, it's  a matter of how things will work out with the talks between camps and how those fighters and their camps will agree to make things happen.

[Yaunfitda]

Yes, I do think that October will be the date of this superfight, and I reckon that this could be also with other huge fight, who knows, it could be in the same card as Crawford vs Canelo in Saudi?

If that happens then that could be the biggest fight in history.

Sure.  The money is just peony for Turki, he can afford Canelo-Crawford and then co-main event is Garcia-Haney.  Although the result may still be Ryan, anyone who watched their fight would be very interested to watch the rematch to see it happen again.

These are just I think what we wanna see but if Turki feels like the entertainment is worth, he can make fights come to fruition.

That's what his goal was, to bring the best fight out there for the fans, so it make sense if it will be in the same card, although I would say it might be suited if they have their own date to see what will be the numbers for each fight and let's see how fans are going to push for the PPV numbers if they are in a separate fight. Both are crowd drawing, specially Garcia vs Haney as it is the biggest fight last year as far as PPV numbers in boxing although I might be wrong. So let's see, the most important thing is that this year, we will have another series of great fight just like last year when Turki put up a good show for the boxing fans inside Saudi and in the US.

[bbc.reporter]

^^ And it will be a dangerous fight for Ryan if they chooses to go with Pitbull Cruz.

Rolly Romero has suffered 2 defeats already and should have lost    Ismael Barroso, but he was gifted with a win and then lost the belt next to Pitbull next. So Rolly doesn't look good in his last couple of fights and probably that's why he was cherry pick.

And the height though, Ryan might find it hard to deal with Pitbull as he was a smaller fighter. Here, Rolly is 5'8 so that is a better target for him.

I reckon King Ry's original choice was Pitbull Cruz. This was before King Ry's team has spoken with the rich Arab master Turki. However, I speculate that after speaking with master Turki and after knowing master Turki's plan on King Ry vs. crying Haney 2, King Ry's team has changed their roadmap for 2025 and chose an more weaker opponent.

Yeah, perhaps sitting down with Turki, they convinced Ryan to just go with Rolly Romero, much easier opponent for him as he can bully Rolly. Unlike Pitbull who are going to fight back, so much better choice of opponents. For Haney, it will be a dangerous fight for him as Ramirez is a former champion. But again, hopefully, they win their respective bout so that everything is going to be set for one of the biggest fight for this year.

Also, why is master Turki always taking Ronaldo with him? Is master Turki doing sexy time with Ronaldo? There are people who say that Arabs are known to do this hehehehehee.

So ask P. Diddy, Lol  . But what can you do? Turki is very powerful man and so he can take anyone he likes with him.

I reckon these opponents chosen for King Ry and Devin Haney by their teams and the rich Arab master Turki are similar to movies. These are only previews to the real movie which is King Ry vs. Haney 2 which will be organized for the tourist months in Saudi Arabia. This will be between October and March. I speculate that this rematch might be on October to begin the tourist months or on December during christmas time, the season where rich people will be spending their money hehehe.

We can compare to it or simply it's the best move for now for Ryan and Devin, to fight someone that is very durable and good in paper but they can easily defeat them. So that is master Turki's plan and there are no denying that both teams can't refuse the offer of the powerful broker from Saudi.s

Yes, I do think that October will be the date of this superfight, and I reckon that this could be also with other huge fight, who knows, it could be in the same card as Crawford vs Canelo in Saudi?

If that happens then that could be the biggest fight in history.

This will not be a very good financial decision if the rich Arab master Turki will organize King Ry vs. Haney and Bud Crawford vs. Canelo in one card, I reckon. This will certainly be separate and this will be in different locations. We can be quite certain that one of these fights will be in Saudi Arabia, however, for the superfight between Canelo and Bud, this will be in Las Vegas.

It appears that the biggest fights in boxing are under master Turki's organization. Has he presently become the new Don King of boxing?

[pawel7777]

Oleksandr Usyk reveals he has just two fights left in his career & wants Daniel Dubois-Joseph Parker winner next
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/30964/13307874/oleksandr-usyk-reveals-he-has-just-two-fights-left-in-his-career-wants-daniel-dubois-joseph-parker-winner-next

There we go. Usyk confirmed he's willing to fight the winner of Dubois Vs. Parker next and also said he only expects to fight two more times before hanging off the gloves. We've seen many boxers announcing retirements and changing their minds later, but I think in Usyk's case, that's probably a well-thought decision and he meant what he said. That would make sense as he would be around 40 when that happens.

Dubois fights Parker on 22nd Feb and is an x1.35 favourite, which I think are fair odds, but it's possible that Parker will make a surprise.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Oleksandr Usyk reveals he has just two fights left in his career & wants Daniel Dubois-Joseph Parker winner next
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/30964/13307874/oleksandr-usyk-reveals-he-has-just-two-fights-left-in-his-career-wants-daniel-dubois-joseph-parker-winner-next

There we go. Usyk confirmed he's willing to fight the winner of Dubois Vs. Parker next and also said he only expects to fight two more times before hanging off the gloves. We've seen many boxers announcing retirements and changing their minds later, but I think in Usyk's case, that's probably a well-thought decision and he meant what he said. That would make sense as he would be around 40 when that happens.

Dubois fights Parker on 22nd Feb and is an x1.35 favourite, which I think are fair odds, but it's possible that Parker will make a surprise.

I do agree that Parker is more dangerous than AJ for Dubois. We have seen that Parker has a good boxing IQ as well specially against that fight in Zhang wherein he was able to weathered the strong punches of Zhang and won that fight.

So Dubois should be very careful here, as Parker might derail his plans for a super fight with Usyk in the future.

Let's see how it goes, Dubois and Parker might be unwinding their trainings and sitting down with their coach and trainer to strategized.