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February 14, 2025, 11:24:57 AM
 #5241

Yes, I do think that October will be the date of this superfight, and I reckon that this could be also with other huge fight, who knows, it could be in the same card as Crawford vs Canelo in Saudi?

If that happens then that could be the biggest fight in history.

Sure.  The money is just peony for Turki, he can afford Canelo-Crawford and then co-main event is Garcia-Haney.  Although the result may still be Ryan, anyone who watched their fight would be very interested to watch the rematch to see it happen again.

These are just I think what we wanna see but if Turki feels like the entertainment is worth, he can make fights come to fruition.

That's what his goal was, to bring the best fight out there for the fans, so it make sense if it will be in the same card, although I would say it might be suited if they have their own date to see what will be the numbers for each fight and let's see how fans are going to push for the PPV numbers if they are in a separate fight. Both are crowd drawing, specially Garcia vs Haney as it is the biggest fight last year as far as PPV numbers in boxing although I might be wrong. So let's see, the most important thing is that this year, we will have another series of great fight just like last year when Turki put up a good show for the boxing fans inside Saudi and in the US.

I like the idea, let them have their own schedule and allow the fans to support each fights, knowing that there are many out there who wanted to see those fighters bringing all in and make the fight really entertaining, especially that they are well-known crowd favorite they can seperately brings attentions.

Let see if how the promoters will bring it to happen and what would be the decision if seperately or they will push for making them co-main event of the schedule.

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February 14, 2025, 11:34:46 AM
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Yes, I do think that October will be the date of this superfight, and I reckon that this could be also with other huge fight, who knows, it could be in the same card as Crawford vs Canelo in Saudi?

If that happens then that could be the biggest fight in history.

Sure.  The money is just peony for Turki, he can afford Canelo-Crawford and then co-main event is Garcia-Haney.  Although the result may still be Ryan, anyone who watched their fight would be very interested to watch the rematch to see it happen again.

These are just I think what we wanna see but if Turki feels like the entertainment is worth, he can make fights come to fruition.

That's what his goal was, to bring the best fight out there for the fans, so it make sense if it will be in the same card, although I would say it might be suited if they have their own date to see what will be the numbers for each fight and let's see how fans are going to push for the PPV numbers if they are in a separate fight. Both are crowd drawing, specially Garcia vs Haney as it is the biggest fight last year as far as PPV numbers in boxing although I might be wrong. So let's see, the most important thing is that this year, we will have another series of great fight just like last year when Turki put up a good show for the boxing fans inside Saudi and in the US.

I like the idea, let them have their own schedule and allow the fans to support each fights, knowing that there are many out there who wanted to see those fighters bringing all in and make the fight really entertaining, especially that they are well-known crowd favorite they can seperately brings attentions.

Let see if how the promoters will bring it to happen and what would be the decision if seperately or they will push for making them co-main event of the schedule.

Business side though, even if Turki has a lot of money, it doesn't make sense that this big fights are going to be in the same card. It's really better if they have their separate date so that fans are going to be see this great fights and maybe compare the numbers per PPV or how many are watching in live gates.

Maybe we are more interested on the Garcia vs Haney rematch, as there are a story behind the two. And there have been trash talking or Haney suing Garcia for the damage when he lost the fight and then Ryan getting caught with performance enhancing drugs so the Garcia win was taken away and it was declared a NC. As compare to Crawford, who has to move 2 weight class to fight the cash cow in Canelo and others speculated already that Canelo is going to win because he has all the advantage already. But in terms of money, this fighters are surely getting a lot from their respective fights.

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February 14, 2025, 01:18:39 PM
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Yes, I do think that October will be the date of this superfight, and I reckon that this could be also with other huge fight, who knows, it could be in the same card as Crawford vs Canelo in Saudi?

If that happens then that could be the biggest fight in history.

Sure.  The money is just peony for Turki, he can afford Canelo-Crawford and then co-main event is Garcia-Haney.  Although the result may still be Ryan, anyone who watched their fight would be very interested to watch the rematch to see it happen again.

These are just I think what we wanna see but if Turki feels like the entertainment is worth, he can make fights come to fruition.

It could be a legendary co main event if Turki can put that next. But for boxing fans, it might be better if this will be a separate card. Ryan Garcia can carry his fight all along and for sure he don't want to have the same card with Canelo as we really don't know who has the best numbers and will will carry the card. And if we will remember, him and Canelo has somewhat a beef when Garcia move out of the Eddy Reynoso gym.

For sure Turki knows what's best for the boxing world and I'm seeing that he will make this card separate from each other.

A Garcia-vs-Haney is already a superfight and he could have some under card that can be side b-side fighters  but still fans wanted to see that fight before the actual main event.

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February 19, 2025, 11:38:41 AM
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Since Beterbiev vs Bivol is near, I don't know if you guys have seen this before,



https://x.com/ABeterbiev/status/1858539052682670182

It looks like he is calling Jake Paul, Lol. And from what I read, he is like asking $100 million for this fight. So not sure if Jake Paul is interested as we all know that he is going to be knockout here.

Or Jake Paul's target is Canelo and the money could be around that as well for that fight to happen.

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February 19, 2025, 10:06:02 PM
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^^ That is one of the biggest fight is this is going to happen in the future. However, it's obvious that Beterbiev is looking for his final paycheck, and it could really come from fighting Jake Paul. And if I'm not mistaken, he says that in the past, his idol is Mike Tyson and when he saw that Jake Paul beat him, his thinking of avenging Mike Tyson and that's why he is calling Paul for a fight.

But that could be a good storyboard for him and for his fans. But if we look at it, Beterbiev is 40 years old, although he can still fight, we all know that Father time is undefeated, and so it's just a matter of time that he will have to hang up his gloves and retire. But before it happens, he is looking for a retirement check and so his ticket for that will be a fight with Jake Paul.

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Regarding the fight of Shakur Stevenson against Schofield, it has been reported that the fight is off and the replacement will be Josh Padley.



https://x.com/ringmagazine/status/1892199642504310880

It's says that Schofield has food poisoning leading up to the fight. Too bad for him, others says that he back off because he doesn't want any of that smoke from Stevenson. Regardless of the reasons, they've made adjustment already and Padley is already on the plan going to Riyadh for this big fight.

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^^ That is one of the biggest fight is this is going to happen in the future. However, it's obvious that Beterbiev is looking for his final paycheck, and it could really come from fighting Jake Paul. And if I'm not mistaken, he says that in the past, his idol is Mike Tyson and when he saw that Jake Paul beat him, his thinking of avenging Mike Tyson and that's why he is calling Paul for a fight.

But that could be a good storyboard for him and for his fans. But if we look at it, Beterbiev is 40 years old, although he can still fight, we all know that Father time is undefeated, and so it's just a matter of time that he will have to hang up his gloves and retire. But before it happens, he is looking for a retirement check and so his ticket for that will be a fight with Jake Paul.

That's interesting and yeah I see your point in terms of calling for Jake Paul that's create a noise surely fans will start calling for it and will gather the attentions of Paul's camp a good amount of Paycheck will be waiting for Betervbiev and since he's no longer getting any younger those kinds of excibition will allow him to earn decently.

And the fact that if the fight will take place and there's no condition behind, possible that he might avenge his idol Iron Mike that if there's no script hahaha..

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Regarding the fight of Shakur Stevenson against Schofield, it has been reported that the fight is off and the replacement will be Josh Padley.



https://x.com/ringmagazine/status/1892199642504310880

It's says that Schofield has food poisoning leading up to the fight. Too bad for him, others says that he back off because he doesn't want any of that smoke from Stevenson. Regardless of the reasons, they've made adjustment already and Padley is already on the plan going to Riyadh for this big fight.

This will certainly be only another ordinary fight for Shakur that will not add anything to him as a boxer and this might also not help him find bigger opportunities for the future. I reckon he should add weight and challenge Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia. I am very much certain that he is very skillful to win against these boxers. However, it appears that he only wants to become some similar to the scammer Tank Davis heheheheh. No one cares for these types of boxers after years of their retirement.

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Regarding the fight of Shakur Stevenson against Schofield, it has been reported that the fight is off and the replacement will be Josh Padley.

https://x.com/ringmagazine/status/1892199642504310880

It's says that Schofield has food poisoning leading up to the fight. Too bad for him, others says that he back off because he doesn't want any of that smoke from Stevenson. Regardless of the reasons, they've made adjustment already and Padley is already on the plan going to Riyadh for this big fight.

After seeing Shakur dominate opponents like Herring and Valdez, I thought it was a matter of time before he was at the top of the pound for pound lists, but his career has stagnated over these past years. Fighters are unwilling to fight him because he is boring and he has no desire to change his style to be more appealing. Boxing is a business foremost, and a safety first style doesn’t sell. It doesn’t matter how many times he changes promoters, his career is going nowhere if he continues to play it safe against these no-hope fighters that he should be knocking out.

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Regarding the fight of Shakur Stevenson against Schofield, it has been reported that the fight is off and the replacement will be Josh Padley.

https://x.com/ringmagazine/status/1892199642504310880

It's says that Schofield has food poisoning leading up to the fight. Too bad for him, others says that he back off because he doesn't want any of that smoke from Stevenson. Regardless of the reasons, they've made adjustment already and Padley is already on the plan going to Riyadh for this big fight.

After seeing Shakur dominate opponents like Herring and Valdez, I thought it was a matter of time before he was at the top of the pound for pound lists, but his career has stagnated over these past years. Fighters are unwilling to fight him because he is boring and he has no desire to change his style to be more appealing. Boxing is a business foremost, and a safety first style doesn’t sell. It doesn’t matter how many times he changes promoters, his career is going nowhere if he continues to play it safe against these no-hope fighters that he should be knocking out.
I agree, I also thought that he could be one of those who are going to be the face of boxing, but his style and his charisma as well doesn't sit with the boxing fans. He is boring, doesn't want to go and take the risk and most of his opponents are underrated. Maybe except for that two fights, Herring and Valdez that he did take that risk but obviously he is very hungry that time, specially against Herring as it is a unified fight if I'm not mistaken. But after that, most of his fans are in his city and the opponents they've chosen for him as no names and so it's an obvious cherry pick fight. Although he has been calling Tank Davis or even Loma.

 
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Regarding the fight of Shakur Stevenson against Schofield, it has been reported that the fight is off and the replacement will be Josh Padley.

https://x.com/ringmagazine/status/1892199642504310880

It's says that Schofield has food poisoning leading up to the fight. Too bad for him, others says that he back off because he doesn't want any of that smoke from Stevenson. Regardless of the reasons, they've made adjustment already and Padley is already on the plan going to Riyadh for this big fight.

After seeing Shakur dominate opponents like Herring and Valdez, I thought it was a matter of time before he was at the top of the pound for pound lists, but his career has stagnated over these past years. Fighters are unwilling to fight him because he is boring and he has no desire to change his style to be more appealing. Boxing is a business foremost, and a safety first style doesn’t sell. It doesn’t matter how many times he changes promoters, his career is going nowhere if he continues to play it safe against these no-hope fighters that he should be knocking out.
The fight will be in my opinion as a crazy fight full of twists and turns, because with Schofield's exit it is clear that the fight should will bring together stronger opponents to face Stevenson, but in fact he will only face Josh Padley who is actually ranked 12th in the WBC who will actually also face Dalton Smith in April later,   he will challenge Stevenson less than 6 months after his last fight against Chamberlain and obviously that it will be suicidal for Padley, because so far he has not been in good form after his last fight, but even then,  I think  Stevenson not as a boring boxer, because all this time I have seen him have an incredible fighting style with a left-handed hand that is ready to destroy his opponents.
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Regarding the fight of Shakur Stevenson against Schofield, it has been reported that the fight is off and the replacement will be Josh Padley.

https://x.com/ringmagazine/status/1892199642504310880

It's says that Schofield has food poisoning leading up to the fight. Too bad for him, others says that he back off because he doesn't want any of that smoke from Stevenson. Regardless of the reasons, they've made adjustment already and Padley is already on the plan going to Riyadh for this big fight.

This will certainly be only another ordinary fight for Shakur that will not add anything to him as a boxer and this might also not help him find bigger opportunities for the future. I reckon he should add weight and challenge Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia. I am very much certain that he is very skillful to win against these boxers. However, it appears that he only wants to become some similar to the scammer Tank Davis heheheheh. No one cares for these types of boxers after years of their retirement.

I agree, another easy fight for Shakur and most likely HE Turki can't do anything but have someone to replace Schofield here so that Shakur can still fight in the card and for fans to see him. I think he should go with Tank Davis, that could be a great fight but it looks like Tank doesn't want to fight him for now.

But his style though, that what makes us not wanting to see him in the ring because it's boring. Although he could really be a great fighter, but then it's a different era now, boxers tends to play it safe and then look for money fights.

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@Kemarit. Agreed. However, Schofield was also not a big name that will help increase the Shakur's next purse or give him an increase in Ringside's rankings which would imply a more bigger purse. This is very headshaking as fan of this sport.

Also, on the argument that boxers of the present want only money and play it safe, this is very much true. But this is only another way of telling ourselves that they are something similar to ICO scammers heehhehe.

Yeah, and I was surprised to see that Josh Padley is rank higher than Schofield in the WBC ranking, Lol. Padley is rank 12, while Schofield is 13, so it just shows that either Shakur as a champion is too good that no one wants to fight him, or he doesn't want to take risk and fight the mandatory or the top 5 fighters in the organization.

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@btc_angela. These WBC ranked boxers are not big names and it will not anymore make a difference on who will be the replacement. Also, on his next target, how can we be certain if Loma or Tank will be the next target? I reckon the WBO champion in his division will be the next target for Tank, Loma and Shakur because it would be the weakest heheheh.

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@btc_angela. These WBC ranked boxers are not big names and it will not anymore make a difference on who will be the replacement. Also, on his next target, how can we be certain if Loma or Tank will be the next target? I reckon the WBO champion in his division will be the next target for Tank, Loma and Shakur because it would be the weakest heheheh.

If Loma, Shakur or Tank is holding 2 championships and challenge for another unification, this might give them the bigger purse.

Loma said that he will be in hiatus so not sure when he is coming back, Tank is also targeting him, but it's up to Loma and Top Rank if they can negotiate that fight. For Shakur's belt, yes, pretty much unknown boxers in that organization and I think Shakur can beat them.

So it might be better if there is will be unification fight along the way. Sort of like bringing the hype again at this division. When Garcia, and Teo Lopez and Haney where at 135 lbs, many boxing fans are watching this division. Now it's just Tank, who also doesn't want to take risks on fighting name opponents, it seems that this division has lost it's mark as the champions are not fighting each other.

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@btc_angela. These WBC ranked boxers are not big names and it will not anymore make a difference on who will be the replacement. Also, on his next target, how can we be certain if Loma or Tank will be the next target? I reckon the WBO champion in his division will be the next target for Tank, Loma and Shakur because it would be the weakest heheheh.

If Loma, Shakur or Tank is holding 2 championships and challenge for another unification, this might give them the bigger purse.

Keyshawn Davis would arguably be the best fighter Tank has ever fought. He doesn’t have the strongest resume yet, but he is naturally very gifted. With only a dozen pro fights he easily destroyed Berinchyk in only 4 rounds to win a world title. I don’t think Tank will fight him next because he is too dangerous and doesn’t have a big enough name. When Tank fights an unknown opponent, it is always somebody like Lamont Roach, who poses almost no risk whatsoever.

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@btc_angela. These WBC ranked boxers are not big names and it will not anymore make a difference on who will be the replacement. Also, on his next target, how can we be certain if Loma or Tank will be the next target? I reckon the WBO champion in his division will be the next target for Tank, Loma and Shakur because it would be the weakest heheheh.

If Loma, Shakur or Tank is holding 2 championships and challenge for another unification, this might give them the bigger purse.

Keyshawn Davis would arguably be the best fighter Tank has ever fought. He doesn’t have the strongest resume yet, but he is naturally very gifted. With only a dozen pro fights he easily destroyed Berinchyk in only 4 rounds to win a world title. I don’t think Tank will fight him next because he is too dangerous and doesn’t have a big enough name. When Tank fights an unknown opponent, it is always somebody like Lamont Roach, who poses almost no risk whatsoever.

Lamont roach who is a career 130 lbs and then was force to go up in weight so that he can have a sweepstakes fight with Tank Davis. I do agree with Keyshawn, he had made a name for himself already and is the WBO champion.

But I doubt that Tank is going to fight Keyshawn as he has been going on his social tirade accusing Tank of carefully hand picking his opponents. Keyshawn has been calling Tank for quite sometime now, even questioning if he has the balls to fight him.

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@btc_angela. These WBC ranked boxers are not big names and it will not anymore make a difference on who will be the replacement. Also, on his next target, how can we be certain if Loma or Tank will be the next target? I reckon the WBO champion in his division will be the next target for Tank, Loma and Shakur because it would be the weakest heheheh.

If Loma, Shakur or Tank is holding 2 championships and challenge for another unification, this might give them the bigger purse.

Keyshawn Davis would arguably be the best fighter Tank has ever fought. He doesn’t have the strongest resume yet, but he is naturally very gifted. With only a dozen pro fights he easily destroyed Berinchyk in only 4 rounds to win a world title. I don’t think Tank will fight him next because he is too dangerous and doesn’t have a big enough name. When Tank fights an unknown opponent, it is always somebody like Lamont Roach, who poses almost no risk whatsoever.

However, if we compare next potential opponents for Shakur for a unification, would will be the boxer that will make it very much less hardest for Shakur to have the victory? Will this be the scammer Tank, the oldman Loma or the man with a small name Keyshawn?

We can be quite certain that the scammer Tank will be the most difficult challenge. This might be a decision for Shakur's team if they want a bigger purse because a bigger purse would certainly be a fight against Loma. He will also more to Shakur's name and career.

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The big Chinese guy was taken out by Agit Kabayel.

Kabayel has a good strategy by targeting Zhang's body early on. And although he taste the canvass, he was able to get back and fight. However, Zhang was too tired and was really hurt by the body shots that Kabayel is throwing.

And with this win, Kabayel is not the interim WBC and will have a shot at Usyk if the governing body will mandated it. Usyk was their to give the Kabayel the belt though. But it was obvious that maybe in the future they will have to face each other.

 
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