Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Kemarit]

The big Chinese guy was taken out by Agit Kabayel.

Kabayel has a good strategy by targeting Zhang's body early on. And although he taste the canvass, he was able to get back and fight. However, Zhang was too tired and was really hurt by the body shots that Kabayel is throwing.

And with this win, Kabayel is not the interim WBC and will have a shot at Usyk if the governing body will mandated it. Usyk was their to give the Kabayel the belt though. But it was obvious that maybe in the future they will have to face each other.

Sooner or later Zhang age and gas tank will be his downfall, not his power. And we have seen that already when Parker beat him, if his power didn't work, then it will be just a matter of time before he goes down and lost because of exhaustion.

And in this fight, Kabayel has a strategy and that is to attack that body to soften Zhang.

Same with Shakur's win against Josh Padley. Padley did his best in this fight, but Shakur is very sharp and also go after his body in this game to score a knockout win with a body blow.

[Baofeng]

Josh Padley has no boxer, he is just below the level of Shakur that's why he looks so great and he is just a replacement for Schofield so we really don't know if he really train that hard against Stevenson.

Nevertheless, we can't take down away from Shakur and defend his belt, and hopefully his next fight will be a unification fight.

And I do agree that Zhang has power but power stamina. He had knockdown or knockdown a lot of big guys in this division. But this will be an easy fight for Usyk if they are going to fight next. And maybe it's time for Zhang to hang up his gloves at 41 years old.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Josh Padley has no boxer, he is just below the level of Shakur that's why he looks so great and he is just a replacement for Schofield so we really don't know if he really train that hard against Stevenson.

Nevertheless, we can't take down away from Shakur and defend his belt, and hopefully his next fight will be a unification fight.

Shakur really failed to impress against a guy who is a full time electrician and part time boxer. It was not the performance that makes me think he can beat Tank Davis, not because he doesn’t have the skills, but because he has no desire to do more than the bare minimum to collect a paycheck. If he fights like he is scared to get hit against someone on the level of Padley, against Tank I imagine he would be even more reluctant to throw punches. He might make Tank look really bad, but avoiding punches for 12 rounds isn’t enough by itself to win a decision.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Josh Padley has no boxer, he is just below the level of Shakur that's why he looks so great and he is just a replacement for Schofield so we really don't know if he really train that hard against Stevenson.

Nevertheless, we can't take down away from Shakur and defend his belt, and hopefully his next fight will be a unification fight.

Shakur really failed to impress against a guy who is a full time electrician and part time boxer. It was not the performance that makes me think he can beat Tank Davis, not because he doesn’t have the skills, but because he has no desire to do more than the bare minimum to collect a paycheck. If he fights like he is scared to get hit against someone on the level of Padley, against Tank I imagine he would be even more reluctant to throw punches. He might make Tank look really bad, but avoiding punches for 12 rounds isn’t enough by itself to win a decision.

He should really target Tank next, there's no way that he will take another paycheck fight against top 5-10 fighters of his division. He should take risk, he is talking about Davis and yet he seem to not go and fight him.

Floyd Schofield could be a good fight for him, but again, it's very unfortunate that he has missed this great opportunity to show his talent on the world stage as he was sick. Tank will have a fight with Lamont Roach so let's see if Shakur will be in the arena to watch and see if he will go to the stage after Tank wins and ask for a fight.

[Fredomago]

Josh Padley has no boxer, he is just below the level of Shakur that's why he looks so great and he is just a replacement for Schofield so we really don't know if he really train that hard against Stevenson.

Nevertheless, we can't take down away from Shakur and defend his belt, and hopefully his next fight will be a unification fight.

Shakur really failed to impress against a guy who is a full time electrician and part time boxer. It was not the performance that makes me think he can beat Tank Davis, not because he doesn’t have the skills, but because he has no desire to do more than the bare minimum to collect a paycheck. If he fights like he is scared to get hit against someone on the level of Padley, against Tank I imagine he would be even more reluctant to throw punches. He might make Tank look really bad, but avoiding punches for 12 rounds isn’t enough by itself to win a decision.

He should really target Tank next, there's no way that he will take another paycheck fight against top 5-10 fighters of his division. He should take risk, he is talking about Davis and yet he seem to not go and fight him.

Floyd Schofield could be a good fight for him, but again, it's very unfortunate that he has missed this great opportunity to show his talent on the world stage as he was sick. Tank will have a fight with Lamont Roach so let's see if Shakur will be in the arena to watch and see if he will go to the stage after Tank wins and ask for a fight.

If that will happen that's going to be a good match if Davis will call on him and a  responds having an interest might bring that heat, though it's going to be a tough fight a not easy paycheck but surely the amount would be much better, especially if fans will buy it and will bring ticket and so with gamblers who will bring interest and create decent volume in a sport gaming industry..

[Kemarit]

Josh Padley has no boxer, he is just below the level of Shakur that's why he looks so great and he is just a replacement for Schofield so we really don't know if he really train that hard against Stevenson.

Nevertheless, we can't take down away from Shakur and defend his belt, and hopefully his next fight will be a unification fight.

Shakur really failed to impress against a guy who is a full time electrician and part time boxer. It was not the performance that makes me think he can beat Tank Davis, not because he doesn’t have the skills, but because he has no desire to do more than the bare minimum to collect a paycheck. If he fights like he is scared to get hit against someone on the level of Padley, against Tank I imagine he would be even more reluctant to throw punches. He might make Tank look really bad, but avoiding punches for 12 rounds isn’t enough by itself to win a decision.

He should really target Tank next, there's no way that he will take another paycheck fight against top 5-10 fighters of his division. He should take risk, he is talking about Davis and yet he seem to not go and fight him.

Floyd Schofield could be a good fight for him, but again, it's very unfortunate that he has missed this great opportunity to show his talent on the world stage as he was sick. Tank will have a fight with Lamont Roach so let's see if Shakur will be in the arena to watch and see if he will go to the stage after Tank wins and ask for a fight.

If that will happen that's going to be a good match if Davis will call on him and a  responds having an interest might bring that heat, though it's going to be a tough fight a not easy paycheck but surely the amount would be much better, especially if fans will buy it and will bring ticket and so with gamblers who will bring interest and create decent volume in a sport gaming industry..

It will really depends on the negotiations, we all know that Tank loves to be the A-side and so he will dictate all the terms. But the problem is that if Shakur is going to accept it. He might felt that they might be low-balling him and so that fight is not going to happen and then we will hear them blaming each other.

There's no doubt that fans are going to buy the tickets, specially Tank knows how to sell the fight. Specially if it will be in a big venue like in Las Vegas wherein there are a lot of gamblers that are going to bet for this fight. It's not a matter of negotiation and which will get the biggest purse and how the PPV numbers are going to be split.

[Baofeng]

Josh Padley has no boxer, he is just below the level of Shakur that's why he looks so great and he is just a replacement for Schofield so we really don't know if he really train that hard against Stevenson.

Nevertheless, we can't take down away from Shakur and defend his belt, and hopefully his next fight will be a unification fight.

Shakur really failed to impress against a guy who is a full time electrician and part time boxer. It was not the performance that makes me think he can beat Tank Davis, not because he doesn’t have the skills, but because he has no desire to do more than the bare minimum to collect a paycheck. If he fights like he is scared to get hit against someone on the level of Padley, against Tank I imagine he would be even more reluctant to throw punches. He might make Tank look really bad, but avoiding punches for 12 rounds isn’t enough by itself to win a decision.

Yes, just another regular fight for Shakur and he could have taken him down much early.

For the Ortiz vs Madrimov, not sure what happen to Madrimov, or maybe it's their style, but it looks like he wasn't the same when he fought Crawford. So with that win, I wanted to see Ortiz vs Fundora next.

On the other side of the globe, Junto Nakatani stops Cuellar, and post fight interview, he says that he wants a unification fight with fellow Japanese Ryosuke Nishida.

[bbc.reporter]

Josh Padley has no boxer, he is just below the level of Shakur that's why he looks so great and he is just a replacement for Schofield so we really don't know if he really train that hard against Stevenson.

Nevertheless, we can't take down away from Shakur and defend his belt, and hopefully his next fight will be a unification fight.

Shakur really failed to impress against a guy who is a full time electrician and part time boxer. It was not the performance that makes me think he can beat Tank Davis, not because he doesn’t have the skills, but because he has no desire to do more than the bare minimum to collect a paycheck. If he fights like he is scared to get hit against someone on the level of Padley, against Tank I imagine he would be even more reluctant to throw punches. He might make Tank look really bad, but avoiding punches for 12 rounds isn’t enough by itself to win a decision.

I reckon when good boxers fight another boxer on quick replacement, this might have a negative occurrence that happens in their minds where they begin to become less feeling the eye of the tiger and only want the fight to be safe and avoid an injury to prepare for the next fight that deserves the feeling of eye of the tiger.

In any case, this also happens to these boxers who are not in the sport for legacy and only fight for money against opponents with no names. They are person who are not similar to Pacman.

[bisdak40]

The big Chinese guy was taken out by Agit Kabayel.

Kabayel has a good strategy by targeting Zhang's body early on. And although he taste the canvass, he was able to get back and fight. However, Zhang was too tired and was really hurt by the body shots that Kabayel is throwing.

And with this win, Kabayel is not the interim WBC and will have a shot at Usyk if the governing body will mandated it. Usyk was their to give the Kabayel the belt though. But it was obvious that maybe in the future they will have to face each other.

I’m quite surprised at how easily Agit Kabayel defeated the big Chinese fighter. Kudos to Kabayel for sticking to his game plan and focusing on Zhang’s body, which proved to be too much for Zhang to handle. I hope Usyk is interested in fighting Kabayel, as he only has two fights left before retiring for good.

[Dave1]

The big Chinese guy was taken out by Agit Kabayel.

Kabayel has a good strategy by targeting Zhang's body early on. And although he taste the canvass, he was able to get back and fight. However, Zhang was too tired and was really hurt by the body shots that Kabayel is throwing.

And with this win, Kabayel is not the interim WBC and will have a shot at Usyk if the governing body will mandated it. Usyk was their to give the Kabayel the belt though. But it was obvious that maybe in the future they will have to face each other.

I’m quite surprised at how easily Agit Kabayel defeated the big Chinese fighter. Kudos to Kabayel for sticking to his game plan and focusing on Zhang’s body, which proved to be too much for Zhang to handle. I hope Usyk is interested in fighting Kabayel, as he only has two fights left before retiring for good.

Not surprised by the strategy to hit the body of Zhang to somewhat slow him down. And although Kabayel went down, he quickly recovered and stick to the game plan of softening Zhang in the body.

And it really not just slow down Zhang, but it took the energy out of him. Not sure though if Usyk will give Kabayel a fight, he might be looking for bigger money, sort of retiring paycheck and I do not think that Kabayel will give that to him. Maybe Dubois will be a great fight for Usyk, But Dubois will not to recover first.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

The big Chinese guy was taken out by Agit Kabayel.

Kabayel has a good strategy by targeting Zhang's body early on. And although he taste the canvass, he was able to get back and fight. However, Zhang was too tired and was really hurt by the body shots that Kabayel is throwing.

And with this win, Kabayel is not the interim WBC and will have a shot at Usyk if the governing body will mandated it. Usyk was their to give the Kabayel the belt though. But it was obvious that maybe in the future they will have to face each other.

I’m quite surprised at how easily Agit Kabayel defeated the big Chinese fighter. Kudos to Kabayel for sticking to his game plan and focusing on Zhang’s body, which proved to be too much for Zhang to handle. I hope Usyk is interested in fighting Kabayel, as he only has two fights left before retiring for good.

And like Bivol, he just stick to his game plan even if he was knockdown. He didn't panic and like go toe to toe with Zhang. We should give congratulations to his corner as well because they really give him good advise.

So let's see if Usyk will be fighting Kabayel next, Agit is not the interim champion, and so it's about time that Usyk should fight him to just have one champion in the WBC. But not sure what kind of gameplan Agit and his tea will have because Usyk is very different and even Tyson Fury was not successful in defeating the great Usyk.

[Baofeng]

Chris Eubank vs Connor Benn



There was a brawl in the face off as Chris Eubank slap Connor Benn with a egg in the face. So this makes the fight really personal between the two. If you guys remember, this two was supposed to fight in October 2022 but was found to have tested positive for a ban substance and was suspended.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I’m quite surprised at how easily Agit Kabayel defeated the big Chinese fighter. Kudos to Kabayel for sticking to his game plan and focusing on Zhang’s body, which proved to be too much for Zhang to handle. I hope Usyk is interested in fighting Kabayel, as he only has two fights left before retiring for good.

Zhang might have cement blocks for hands but he is incredibly slow, lacks stamina, and he’s 41 years old. He is like a Chinese Deontay Wilder, who relies almost entirely on brute knockout power to win fights. He will always be considered a dangerous threat, but there are plenty of weaknesses that can be exploited by someone with an intelligent strategy.

At this level, he can only beat lower tier heavyweights, but he will struggle against anybody elite that is still in their prime. A puncher’s chance would be his only hope against Usyk or Dubois.

[Kemarit]

Regarding the egg incident between Conor and Chris, they said that the final conference is going to be off or something. But this came from Eddie Hearn himself, the manager of Conor Benn.

But if I check the account of @Turki_alalshikh and it seems that it's going to happen.

So we will see how they will set this up or how will they separate the two because for sure Chris Eubank might want to do something as well to retaliate.

[Baofeng]

If boxing fans are looking for an update from Ryan Garcia, here is the latest,

https://x.com/ringmagazine/status/1894576428152492113

It was reported that he is working with his former coach and trainer, Eddy Reynoso. Maybe he did go back to Eddy for his preparation fight against Devin Haney, and it's good, it will really bring balance for him as he Eddy was his first training and did guide him to have a breakout in boxing.

He looks huge though, but plenty of time for him to trim and go back to fighting weight of 140 lbs or in a catchweight.

[bbc.reporter]

@Kemarit. My reply to you for this. The thread has been locked.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5521796.msg65110175#msg65110175

I disagree that Bivol will be dishonorable and fight David Benavidez next. I would agree if Bivol had the victory with a dominant unanimous decision. However, he did not. This rematch is very much similar to Beterbiev vs. Bivol 1. We can be quite certain thay Dmitry Bivol will honor Beterbiev and fight a trilogy. This will also not only be about honor or legacy. This trilogy fight will certainly give Bivol a bigger purse than a fight against David Benavidez hehehehe.

[UNTO Chain]

I think it's great that you've started this thread! I'm looking forward to hearing about your thoughts on the upcoming fights!

[Dave1]

@Kemarit. My reply to you for this. The thread has been locked.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5521796.msg65110175#msg65110175

I disagree that Bivol will be dishonorable and fight David Benavidez next. I would agree if Bivol had the victory with a dominant unanimous decision. However, he did not. This rematch is very much similar to Beterbiev vs. Bivol 1. We can be quite certain thay Dmitry Bivol will honor Beterbiev and fight a trilogy. This will also not only be about honor or legacy. This trilogy fight will certainly give Bivol a bigger purse than a fight against David Benavidez hehehehe.

Yeah, I think it will still be his biggest check if he will fight for a trilogy. But it seems though that there's not much of a talk about it in social media. Unless the Saudi's are going to brokered it again but it seems that they are also quiet about it.

But obviously, the biggest purse will be Canelo, but we all know that Canelo is going to be busy this year with his May fight with Scull and then the highly anticipated fight with Crawford this September. So perhaps Bivol will just take a break for now and not pursue a trilogy right away.

[Yaunfitda]

Regarding the egg incident between Conor and Chris, they said that the final conference is going to be off or something. But this came from Eddie Hearn himself, the manager of Conor Benn.

But if I check the account of @Turki_alalshikh and it seems that it's going to happen.

So we will see how they will set this up or how will they separate the two because for sure Chris Eubank might want to do something as well to retaliate.

It will still a go if I'm going to speculate, of course they are going to be separated this time but probably they can still trash talk against each other during the final press conference. And this is going to be good for the fight, as least it make some noises as well and who knows, the organizers might be very strict so that this kind of untoward incidence are not going to happen in the future. We have seen worst though, fighters hitting each other like what Canelo did to Caleb Plant during their face off and then they chooses to settle it inside the ring. But this could really trigger Benn to be really very aggressive and make this fight very personal as well and get his revenge by winning this fight.

[Kemarit]

@Kemarit. My reply to you for this. The thread has been locked.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5521796.msg65110175#msg65110175

I disagree that Bivol will be dishonorable and fight David Benavidez next. I would agree if Bivol had the victory with a dominant unanimous decision. However, he did not. This rematch is very much similar to Beterbiev vs. Bivol 1. We can be quite certain thay Dmitry Bivol will honor Beterbiev and fight a trilogy. This will also not only be about honor or legacy. This trilogy fight will certainly give Bivol a bigger purse than a fight against David Benavidez hehehehe.

I the impression that he welcomes any comer to get and defend his belt, and so that is against David Benavidez, a fighter that Canelo is ducking. Just imagine if he beats Benavidez, I think it will really put him in some fans mind that he is a better fighter because Canelo keeps avoiding Benavidez and then he just beat that guy.

Besides, in his post fight interview, the way I interpret it, there is no rush to have a rematch and his manager and Eddie Hearn could be heading on fighting a different boxer once he heals his body after this very hard fight against Beterbiev.