[CHESS] World Championship 2021: Carlsen Vs. Nepomniachtchi

[wildan88]

Chess is also available on many sites to bet on. It seems that the Norwegian is just too good. Have also read that he owns all titles in the chess circuit. That Russian isn't that bad, is it? 
According to the rankings from the world.
Still, Carlsen won with great force majeure. In chess, there is only 1 game played. A big advantage for the reigning world champion, who only has to defeat 1 opponent in this way.
Weird format actually, if you think about it.

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[Lucasgabd]

I think that no sport has a comparison in the equivalent, it is the science sport say out there, but some do not consider it a sport, although it is officially recognized as a sport.

When chess is played for entertainment or as a board game as such, it does not occur to anyone to call it a sport, but when you spend 10 hours sitting or more playing and the consequent mental effort it requires, then you end up understanding that it can be considered a sport, in the equivalent that we could usually tie to it is badminton, which has even been an Olympic sport.

totally makes sense since chess can be really demanding for the mind and even for the body, focusing 10h+ on a game is probably really tiresome

Chess is also available on many sites to bet on.

which sites? any of these are crypto only?

Chess is not just easy game you need to practice a long time to be a    chess player cause if you play this game you need to think higher how  you can defense and offense some in other games but you can not compare the skills one to a mind one football, basketball, softballs these are the example of physical games but chess is different from them your mind was your best partners if you play chess game.

it's hard to compare different games but chess is definitely hard
these Grand masters can see 5 or more plays and calculate a lot in terms of future possibilities
it's really impressive

[aoluain]

I think that no sport has a comparison in the equivalent, it is the science sport say out there, but some do not consider it a sport, although it is officially recognized as a sport.

When chess is played for entertainment or as a board game as such, it does not occur to anyone to call it a sport, but when you spend 10 hours sitting or more playing and the consequent mental effort it requires, then you end up understanding that it can be considered a sport, in the equivalent that we could usually tie to it is badminton, which has even been an Olympic sport.

totally makes sense since chess can be really demanding for the mind and even for the body, focusing 10h+ on a game is probably really tiresome

Chess is a strange one as regards calling it a sport. Every other sport involves a
degree of physical activity but Chess requires mental strength and agility.
I'm sure players physically work out to condition the body as well as their mind
because I'm sure it has been proven that a healthy body can benefit a healthy brain.

Aside from the skill levels required to play top level Chess there is no physical challenge.
The nearest sport I can think of which requires only skill and not a physical advantage
is Darts.

[Lucasgabd]

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Chess is a strange one as regards calling it a sport. Every other sport involves a
degree of physical activity but Chess requires mental strength and agility.
I'm sure players physically work out to condition the body as well as their mind
because I'm sure it has been proven that a healthy body can benefit a healthy brain.

Aside from the skill levels required to play top level Chess there is no physical challenge.
The nearest sport I can think of which requires only skill and not a physical advantage
is Darts.

you are right
I'd say chess is a game and not a sport
I know many don't agree with it, but when I think about sports I think about effort and sweat
there's effort in chess, of course, but it's way more about the mind than about the body

[famososMuertos]

I think that no sport has a comparison in the equivalent, it is the science sport say out there, but some do not consider it a sport, although it is officially recognized as a sport.

When chess is played for entertainment or as a board game as such, it does not occur to anyone to call it a sport, but when you spend 10 hours sitting or more playing and the consequent mental effort it requires, then you end up understanding that it can be considered a sport, in the equivalent that we could usually tie to it is badminton, which has even been an Olympic sport.

totally makes sense since chess can be really demanding for the mind and even for the body, focusing 10h+ on a game is probably really tiresome

Chess is a strange one as regards calling it a sport. Every other sport involves a
degree of physical activity but Chess requires mental strength and agility.
I'm sure players physically work out to condition the body as well as their mind
because I'm sure it has been proven that a healthy body can benefit a healthy brain.

Aside from the skill levels required to play top level Chess there is no physical challenge.
The nearest sport I can think of which requires only skill and not a physical advantage
is Darts.

That is the point, I think you have to live it to understand it, the fact of sitting for a few hours makes you think that there is no physical exhaustion and maybe if you do it from time to time it may not affect you, but it exhausts, the Poker is a sport in some countries, for example Brazil and that allows us to compare it, in fact, many professional poker players have switched to professional poker.

Today's professional players in the chess world have a different preparation even if you compare them with past champions, their physical condition is very different.

But whatever the definition of sport has to be redefined to new times, because driving a drone is considered a competitive sport today, I think that in the end it is a matter of how it is practiced and under what healthy competitive conditions it is performed.

[qwertyup23]

I think that no sport has a comparison in the equivalent, it is the science sport say out there, but some do not consider it a sport, although it is officially recognized as a sport.

When chess is played for entertainment or as a board game as such, it does not occur to anyone to call it a sport, but when you spend 10 hours sitting or more playing and the consequent mental effort it requires, then you end up understanding that it can be considered a sport, in the equivalent that we could usually tie to it is badminton, which has even been an Olympic sport.

totally makes sense since chess can be really demanding for the mind and even for the body, focusing 10h+ on a game is probably really tiresome

Chess is a strange one as regards calling it a sport. Every other sport involves a
degree of physical activity but Chess requires mental strength and agility.
I'm sure players physically work out to condition the body as well as their mind
because I'm sure it has been proven that a healthy body can benefit a healthy brain.

Aside from the skill levels required to play top level Chess there is no physical challenge.
The nearest sport I can think of which requires only skill and not a physical advantage
is Darts.

I think chess can be one of the most brutal sports compared to any other sport that is recognized.

While it does not involve any physical activity, the mental and psychological torture is beyond incomprehensible to us mere mortals. Imagine, playing 9-15 hours of straight chess which needs continuous concentration and focus where one mistake in your calculation can result to a loss. That is why it is definitely heartbreaking if a player lost a very long-game. That is also the reason on why classical chess is the pinnacle of any other chess mode (e.g. rapid, blitz, bullet, etc.).

[South Park]

I think that no sport has a comparison in the equivalent, it is the science sport say out there, but some do not consider it a sport, although it is officially recognized as a sport.

When chess is played for entertainment or as a board game as such, it does not occur to anyone to call it a sport, but when you spend 10 hours sitting or more playing and the consequent mental effort it requires, then you end up understanding that it can be considered a sport, in the equivalent that we could usually tie to it is badminton, which has even been an Olympic sport.

I guess the same can be applied to many e-sport games. Chess is probably the most similar to e-sports of the "traditional" sports

When people think of the word sport they think of a competition of a physical nature, however there are also mind sports, and without a doubt chess falls in that category, after all the amount of effort, preparation and time that chess players need to dedicate to the game makes it very similar to what we see in traditional sports, however with the advent of esports people are becoming more accepting about alternative sports, and taking into account that chess has existed for a very long time then it is natural that it is now finally being recognized as a sport as well.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think that no sport has a comparison in the equivalent, it is the science sport say out there, but some do not consider it a sport, although it is officially recognized as a sport.

When chess is played for entertainment or as a board game as such, it does not occur to anyone to call it a sport, but when you spend 10 hours sitting or more playing and the consequent mental effort it requires, then you end up understanding that it can be considered a sport, in the equivalent that we could usually tie to it is badminton, which has even been an Olympic sport.

I guess the same can be applied to many e-sport games. Chess is probably the most similar to e-sports of the "traditional" sports

When people think of the word sport they think of a competition of a physical nature, however there are also mind sports, and without a doubt chess falls in that category, after all the amount of effort, preparation and time that chess players need to dedicate to the game makes it very similar to what we see in traditional sports, however with the advent of esports people are becoming more accepting about alternative sports, and taking into account that chess has existed for a very long time then it is natural that it is now finally being recognized as a sport as well.

Well I can attest that when you play chess for many hours a day you come out very tired, very hungry and wanting to sleep, in fact when I was in college that sport kept me very alert and with my thoughts at 1000%, and It really is a sport that wants to practice and practice many plays all the time, in fact there are many chess players who have so much theory that from the beginning they make very strange starts and the truth is that the strategy is very broad, it covers many strategies. What happens is that my chess technique is very traditional, there are already many master moves that are really very advanced moves.

[Lucasgabd]

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That is the point, I think you have to live it to understand it, the fact of sitting for a few hours makes you think that there is no physical exhaustion and maybe if you do it from time to time it may not affect you, but it exhausts, the Poker is a sport in some countries, for example Brazil and that allows us to compare it, in fact, many professional poker players have switched to professional poker.

Today's professional players in the chess world have a different preparation even if you compare them with past champions, their physical condition is very different.

But whatever the definition of sport has to be redefined to new times, because driving a drone is considered a competitive sport today, I think that in the end it is a matter of how it is practiced and under what healthy competitive conditions it is performed.

I agree with you that chess can be quite hard
and I understand many consider it a sport, for me it's a game since sports would have sweat and more physicality
as an example, I don't consider eSports as sports since they're computer games

but here I'm talking a bit more on my personal definitions than the general consensus

[romero121]

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That is the point, I think you have to live it to understand it, the fact of sitting for a few hours makes you think that there is no physical exhaustion and maybe if you do it from time to time it may not affect you, but it exhausts, the Poker is a sport in some countries, for example Brazil and that allows us to compare it, in fact, many professional poker players have switched to professional poker.

Today's professional players in the chess world have a different preparation even if you compare them with past champions, their physical condition is very different.

But whatever the definition of sport has to be redefined to new times, because driving a drone is considered a competitive sport today, I think that in the end it is a matter of how it is practiced and under what healthy competitive conditions it is performed.

I agree with you that chess can be quite hard
and I understand many consider it a sport, for me it's a game since sports would have sweat and more physicality
as an example, I don't consider eSports as sports since they're computer games

but here I'm talking a bit more on my personal definitions than the general consensus

What you said is true. Myself too have the same definition when it comes to chess. Maybe we can call it a mind game, because the win is much associated with the thinking and not about the physical acts. As said eSports were just a resembling of real sports, and not real sports. But the naming is done in a right way adding "e" to the sports.

[bittraffic]

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That is the point, I think you have to live it to understand it, the fact of sitting for a few hours makes you think that there is no physical exhaustion and maybe if you do it from time to time it may not affect you, but it exhausts, the Poker is a sport in some countries, for example Brazil and that allows us to compare it, in fact, many professional poker players have switched to professional poker.

Today's professional players in the chess world have a different preparation even if you compare them with past champions, their physical condition is very different.

But whatever the definition of sport has to be redefined to new times, because driving a drone is considered a competitive sport today, I think that in the end it is a matter of how it is practiced and under what healthy competitive conditions it is performed.

I agree with you that chess can be quite hard
and I understand many consider it a sport, for me it's a game since sports would have sweat and more physicality
as an example, I don't consider eSports as sports since they're computer games

but here I'm talking a bit more on my personal definitions than the general consensus

What you said is true. Myself too have the same definition when it comes to chess. Maybe we can call it a mind game, because the win is much associated with the thinking and not about the physical acts. As said eSports were just a resembling of real sports, and not real sports. But the naming is done in a right way adding "e" to the sports.

Watching games like this is boring for someone not interested. I was once among the kids to represent my grade level to compete within our school but eventually lose. I think I'm the only one who knew chess in the 4th grade that time which I only learn because my father needs someone to play with.

After showing him I'm not very interested in the game, he was very disappointed. He started to just play with the chess hustlers, I think chess players has to mess up with chess hustlers on parks in preparation to compete, its where they real game is. More pro than olympics.

[qwertyup23]

What you said is true. Myself too have the same definition when it comes to chess. Maybe we can call it a mind game, because the win is much associated with the thinking and not about the physical acts. As said eSports were just a resembling of real sports, and not real sports. But the naming is done in a right way adding "e" to the sports.

I find it also amusing that chess indeed is the sport that involves mentally and psychological battle between you and your opponent. The slightest mistake could definitely cost the match that may have lasted for several hours depending on the game format (e.g. classical, rapid, blitz, or bullet). Though many have argued that chess is not considered as a "real sport", I do think that suffering a loss here can be brutally painful.

I am just thrilled that this sport has been widespread recognized and its popularity is steadily increasing. I just hope that more people would try it out as it is definitely enjoyable!

[South Park]

What you said is true. Myself too have the same definition when it comes to chess. Maybe we can call it a mind game, because the win is much associated with the thinking and not about the physical acts. As said eSports were just a resembling of real sports, and not real sports. But the naming is done in a right way adding "e" to the sports.

I find it also amusing that chess indeed is the sport that involves mentally and psychological battle between you and your opponent. The slightest mistake could definitely cost the match that may have lasted for several hours depending on the game format (e.g. classical, rapid, blitz, or bullet). Though many have argued that chess is not considered as a "real sport", I do think that suffering a loss here can be brutally painful.

I am just thrilled that this sport has been widespread recognized and its popularity is steadily increasing. I just hope that more people would try it out as it is definitely enjoyable!

A defeat in a chess match is one of the most crushing things that you can experience in the sport world, and I will explain why, in almost any sport there is a huge element of chance mixed in the game, so even if you lose you can find a lot of circumstances that went against you during that game and if a single one of them had turned on your favor then you could have gotten a win, this gives you some peace of mind and it lets you to more easily accept the defeat.

But in chess this is no possible, as nothing on the board is up to chance and the one to win is simply the one that plays the best.

[Boristhecat]

By the way, did anyone watch the World Rapid and Blitz Championship which ended at the end of December?
First, Magnus, due to additional indicators, took third place in rapid, and then, after he was very indignant about this, he showed an even worse result in the blitz - 12th place. This once again shows that it is high time to change the formula for playing the chess crown, and in fair conditions the reigning champion will feel much less comfortable than now.

[STT]

Chess is a strange one as regards calling it a sport. Every other sport involves a
degree of physical activity but Chess requires mental strength and agility.

Its a sport, if people can call computer games sports with leagues and all kinds of parallels its definitely as much a sport.  I get the point but the reason why it qualifies is the competitive element and the requirement to be 'fit' for the competition.   So there is a degree of training and good fitness in mind at least, if you are a mess tired or just not right in some way it will mean you are no longer competitive and able to play.  For these reasons I do think it is a sport.

[Lucasgabd]

Chess is a strange one as regards calling it a sport. Every other sport involves a
degree of physical activity but Chess requires mental strength and agility.

Its a sport, if people can call computer games sports with leagues and all kinds of parallels its definitely as much a sport.  I get the point but the reason why it qualifies is the competitive element and the requirement to be 'fit' for the competition.   So there is a degree of training and good fitness in mind at least, if you are a mess tired or just not right in some way it will mean you are no longer competitive and able to play.  For these reasons I do think it is a sport.

so, trading is a sport?
it also has a competitive element and it's mental
imo it's not

my point is that computer games are not sports either, even though people call it eSports it's a term that makes no sense

let's take the definition of sports

Code:

Sports
noun
An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
Such activities considered as a group.
A usually challenging activity undertaken for amusement.

physical + skill
not only mental, you need your body too...

anyways, being a bit picky here, not sure if this matters that much

but games are games, sports are sports

[qwertyup23]

By the way, did anyone watch the World Rapid and Blitz Championship which ended at the end of December?
First, Magnus, due to additional indicators, took third place in rapid, and then, after he was very indignant about this, he showed an even worse result in the blitz - 12th place. This once again shows that it is high time to change the formula for playing the chess crown, and in fair conditions the reigning champion will feel much less comfortable than now.

Unfortunately, that is where he stands right now but you also have to consider that Magnus was also preparing for the WCC 2021 while the other players are busy preparing for rapid and blitz championships. I do think that Magnus performs exceptionally well when his back is against the wall- like he is on the verge/edge of defeat. That is what sparks his interest and competitiveness that unleashes his inner instincts more compared to preparation.

I do think that he will be getting his revenge by next year given that there is something that he has to prove. Being at the top can definitely make someone lose their motivation and the fact that Magnus was not able to snatch rapid and blitz championships this year, he will definitely be hungry for next year.

[Boristhecat]

By the way, did anyone watch the World Rapid and Blitz Championship which ended at the end of December?
First, Magnus, due to additional indicators, took third place in rapid, and then, after he was very indignant about this, he showed an even worse result in the blitz - 12th place. This once again shows that it is high time to change the formula for playing the chess crown, and in fair conditions the reigning champion will feel much less comfortable than now.

Unfortunately, that is where he stands right now but you also have to consider that Magnus was also preparing for the WCC 2021 while the other players are busy preparing for rapid and blitz championships. I do think that Magnus performs exceptionally well when his back is against the wall- like he is on the verge/edge of defeat. That is what sparks his interest and competitiveness that unleashes his inner instincts more compared to preparation.

I do think that he will be getting his revenge by next year given that there is something that he has to prove. Being at the top can definitely make someone lose their motivation and the fact that Magnus was not able to snatch rapid and blitz championships this year, he will definitely be hungry for next year.

I follow many chess players (more precisely, I watch how they play on YouTube and Twitch) and I know for sure that most of them did not really prepare for this championship. Well, or we can say that they prepared for the championship every day - time control when playing on the Internet from a minute to a maximum of three.
I think the reason for Magnus's defeat lies in his age - the advantage of young chess players in small time control is growing and after a year Magnus is unlikely to have more chances.

[Lucasgabd]

interesting, I've been playing some blitz (5 min) and rapid games (10-15 min)
It's much harder to make good decisions on the really short time frames

I see it as a good way to prepare for long games but they probably play all ranges of time

the habits are usually underestimated
if you have a good routine of training you are always prepared for tournaments.

[Boristhecat]

The strongest bullet chess championship in history ended yesterday (the time limit is 1 minute per game and you can take a berserk). By the way, the prize fund was one bitcoin.
After the first day, Carlsen was 15 points behind the leader and was in third place, and for some reason the whole second game day he played a moronic opening (king F2 for white and king F7 for black) and eventually finished outside the top ten. It looks like he is in a crisis, but is trying to pretend that everything is fine.