🌍⚽Sportsbet.io AFCON 2024 prediction pool discussion thread

[Igebotz]

Salah paid the price of being the 5th penalty kick taker, I would never choose my best taker to be last. Yes, if it comes to the 5th, you want your best guy there - but too often it doesn't because someone who is a worse taker screws up before that.

As usual, he wanted to be in the spotlight, and he always wanted to be the one that came in and went out as your best manager. Penalty takers must either be the first to take to boost team confidence or the last to take to determine the final kick. My finest taker will be the final taker if I become a manager.

nevertheless, in the end finished 2nd in the leader-board, 0,5 points below CLS63, did not expect that, but forcing 0:0 on Egypt pushed me up

Only three users got the 0-0 right and I glad I ended my pool with a 3 points and a Hat( don't know how that go on my head lol.

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[CLS63]

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[darxiaomi]

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[cryptofrka]

As usual, he wanted to be in the spotlight, and he always wanted to be the one that came in and went out as your best manager. Penalty takers must either be the first to take to boost team confidence or the last to take to determine the final kick. My finest taker will be the final taker if I become a manager.

I understand the spotlight - but it is also important to be able to get the chance to be in the spotlight.

My best shooter would probably shoot as either number 3 or 4, I understand the argument to have him as a 1st as well but there are always at least 2-3 good takers in any team so the 1st taker can usually be a good taker without the need for him to be your main man.

Egypt went to penalties 3 times in this year's AFCON, Salah took only 1 penalty. That one was a winning one though.

[Trofo]

As usual, he wanted to be in the spotlight, and he always wanted to be the one that came in and went out as your best manager. Penalty takers must either be the first to take to boost team confidence or the last to take to determine the final kick. My finest taker will be the final taker if I become a manager.

I understand the spotlight - but it is also important to be able to get the chance to be in the spotlight.

My best shooter would probably shoot as either number 3 or 4, I understand the argument to have him as a 1st as well but there are always at least 2-3 good takers in any team so the 1st taker can usually be a good taker without the need for him to be your main man.

Egypt went to penalties 3 times in this year's AFCON, Salah took only 1 penalty. That one was a winning one though.

Don't know why teams must give the list of penalty takers before they start. Why wouldn't they just take the penalties as situation demands. Ref can just write down each taker as he takes it so there is no double takers.

[Igebotz]

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Don't know why teams must give the list of penalty takers before they start. Why wouldn't they just take the penalties as situation demands. Ref can just write down each taker as he takes it so there is no double takers.

How can you not know or learn to know your team's good PK takers? How can you let them take it at random when the players already know who is good at PK and who isn't? Even if they take it at random, those who don't know how to take PK will always make room for the team's best takers. You should have a list of the top five takers and a list of the next best five in case the PK advances to the second round.

[Trofo]

Don't know why teams must give the list of penalty takers before they start. Why wouldn't they just take the penalties as situation demands. Ref can just write down each taker as he takes it so there is no double takers.

How can you not know or learn to know your team's good PK takers? How can you let them take it at random when the players already know who is good at PK and who isn't? Even if they take it at random, those who don't know how to take PK will always make room for the team's best takers. You should have a list of the top five takers and a list of the next best five in case the PK advances to the second round.

Of course you know. My point is that the list does not need to be given to referee. For instance Egypt knows their best taker is Salah and they can use him when they deem most necessary. This way he did not take the penalty since he was written as 5th, my way he would have taken let's say 3rd penalty when it started to go wrong.

[cryptofrka]

Don't know why teams must give the list of penalty takers before they start. Why wouldn't they just take the penalties as situation demands. Ref can just write down each taker as he takes it so there is no double takers.

Yep, makes no sense at all.

How can you not know or learn to know your team's good PK takers? How can you let them take it at random when the players already know who is good at PK and who isn't? Even if they take it at random, those who don't know how to take PK will always make room for the team's best takers. You should have a list of the top five takers and a list of the next best five in case the PK advances to the second round.

You know who your best takers are but if you miss the first 2 penalties you want your best guy to take the next one, and he is on the list you submitted on the 5th spot, meaning that he will probably not shoot at all. Or you have a lead already and the next penalty can be a winning one, you again want your best player to take that one.

[casperBGD]

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You know who your best takers are but if you miss the first 2 penalties you want your best guy to take the next one, and he is on the list you submitted on the 5th spot, meaning that he will probably not shoot at all. Or you have a lead already and the next penalty can be a winning one, you again want your best player to take that one.

agree, that giving the list is probably not the best tactics
but, having decision one-by-one could add pressure to takers and coach as well, since you need to think before each penalty who will take it, and this could add tension to the team as well (maybe not in situation where you have one star, as Salah in Egypt, but think about Ronaldo and Bruno in Manchester United, and coach that have to decide before the penalty, when things go wrong (would be interesting to watch))

nevertheless, it would be too much to win over with three penalty roulette

[Igebotz]

For instance Egypt knows their best taker is Salah and they can use him when they deem most necessary. This way he did not take the penalty since he was written as 5th, my way he would have taken let's say 3rd penalty when it started to go wrong.

It makes no difference when he takes; we've seen situations where the first and last takers both missed it, and how confident are you that Salah would have scored? There will always be that one person who ruins the team. GK, not the players, usually decides who wins. The PK taker list is strategically designed so that if the first person mess up, the second person cannot make a mistake, which is why you rarely see a team make two consecutive double misses.

agree, that giving the list is probably not the best tactics
but, having decision one-by-one could add pressure to takers and coach as well, since you need to think before each penalty who will take it, and this could add tension to the team as well

Another disadvantage of not keeping a list of PK takers, and another reasons why submitting a list is a good idea, is that the GK will have a better understanding of who is taking the penalty.

[Trofo]

For instance Egypt knows their best taker is Salah and they can use him when they deem most necessary. This way he did not take the penalty since he was written as 5th, my way he would have taken let's say 3rd penalty when it started to go wrong.

It makes no difference when he takes; we've seen situations where the first and last takers both missed it, and how confident are you that Salah would have scored? There will always be that one person who ruins the team. GK, not the players, usually decides who wins. The PK taker list is strategically designed so that if the first person mess up, the second person cannot make a mistake, which is why you rarely see a team make two consecutive double misses.

I have no clue if Salah would have scored but I am sure both he and his manager were expecting him to take a penalty. My way would allow for "best" penalty takers to almost always have opportunity to take the most demanding penalty. GK are learning about opposition players before the match so the list does not matter to them. When he sees who is taking the kick he just adjusts to that.

[Igebotz]

It makes no difference when he takes; we've seen situations where the first and last takers both missed it, and how confident are you that Salah would have scored? There will always be that one person who ruins the team. GK, not the players, usually decides who wins. The PK taker list is strategically designed so that if the first person mess up, the second person cannot make a mistake, which is why you rarely see a team make two consecutive double misses.

I have no clue if Salah would have scored but I am sure both he and his manager were expecting him to take a penalty. My way would allow for "best" penalty takers to almost always have opportunity to take the most demanding penalty. GK are learning about opposition players before the match so the list does not matter to them. When he sees who is taking the kick he just adjusts to that.

Salah was expected to make the game-winning kick; he's the team's most trusted and clinical penalty taker; he decided the Quarterfinal and Semifinal shootouts, and they were anticipating the same thing this time; but, penalty shootouts are always a 50-50 game.

Salah and the manager did everything they were intended to do, but things didn't go as planned.

[cryptofrka]

Salah was expected to make the game-winning kick; he's the team's most trusted and clinical penalty taker; he decided the Quarterfinal and Semifinal shootouts, and they were anticipating the same thing this time; but, penalty shootouts are always a 50-50 game.

Salah and the manager did everything they were intended to do, but things didn't go as planned.

Actually not really. He decided the Round of 16 game against Ivory Coast and then did not shoot against Cameroon in the semifinal - Cameroon missed 3 penalties and Egypt needed only 3 penalty takers. Their Quarter final game was Morocco - they won in overtime before the penalties.

He did not shoot again in the final so he took only 1 penalty in their 3 shootouts.

[Marykeller]

Don't know why teams must give the list of penalty takers before they start. Why wouldn't they just take the penalties as situation demands. Ref can just write down each taker as he takes it so there is no double takers.

Yep, makes no sense at all.

How can you not know or learn to know your team's good PK takers? How can you let them take it at random when the players already know who is good at PK and who isn't? Even if they take it at random, those who don't know how to take PK will always make room for the team's best takers. You should have a list of the top five takers and a list of the next best five in case the PK advances to the second round.

You know who your best takers are but if you miss the first 2 penalties you want your best guy to take the next one, and he is on the list you submitted on the 5th spot, meaning that he will probably not shoot at all. Or you have a lead already and the next penalty can be a winning one, you again want your best player to take that one.

Your best guy can miss a penalty kick. A penalty kick is not about having your best guy take the first spot of the pk or the last spot pk. Anybody can miss a penalty. Even Messi and Ronaldo have all missed a pk when all hopes are on them to win a match through pk.
I don't believe that pk is best played by the best players.

[Trofo]

Your best guy can miss a penalty kick. A penalty kick is not about having your best guy take the first spot of the pk or the last spot pk. Anybody can miss a penalty. Even Messi and Ronaldo have all missed a pk when all hopes are on them to win a match through pk.
I don't believe that pk is best played by the best players.

Messi is nowhere near best penalty takers, he is just taking them to build up his personal stats and the team is going with it since he brings so much with his other qualities. I have a feeling Ronaldo is a bit better on penalties but I firmly believe he is the worst free kick taker in the world in the last couple of years

Check Matt Le Tissier stats for some really incredible numbers.

Taking penalties takes mental strength, nothing to do with how good player is otherwise. I am sure all professional players score almost all penalties on training but when the stakes are high it becomes a different story.

[muratsink]

Don't know why teams must give the list of penalty takers before they start. Why wouldn't they just take the penalties as situation demands. Ref can just write down each taker as he takes it so there is no double takers.

How can you not know or learn to know your team's good PK takers? How can you let them take it at random when the players already know who is good at PK and who isn't? Even if they take it at random, those who don't know how to take PK will always make room for the team's best takers. You should have a list of the top five takers and a list of the next best five in case the PK advances to the second round.

Of course you know. My point is that the list does not need to be given to referee. For instance Egypt knows their best taker is Salah and they can use him when they deem most necessary. This way he did not take the penalty since he was written as 5th, my way he would have taken let's say 3rd penalty when it started to go wrong.

we don't know what was going through Carlos Queiroz's mind so that he had to put Mohamed wrong to the last kick in the penalty shootout lineup even though many other teams put many of their main kickers at the start rather than having to be decisive in the penalty shootout process, and it was felt by Muhammad that it was wrong where he couldn't be an executor when there were so many failures made by Egyptian players in the high-fived drama, it should be an evaluation considering that of the 3 African cup penalty shootout dramas.Mohamed Salah only got one time. in the process

[Igebotz]

Messi is nowhere near best penalty takers, he is just taking them to build up his personal stats and the team is going with it since he brings so much with his other qualities. I have a feeling Ronaldo is a bit better on penalties but I firmly believe he is the worst free kick taker in the world in the last couple of years

Check Matt Le Tissier stats for some really incredible numbers.

Messi is a clinical penalty taker, but he doesn't take as many as Ronaldo. Ronaldo loves the penalty taker game; he has about 50+ PK goals, which is more than any current footballer. Messi takes it whenever he feels like it; both of them are good, but not near the best. Mario Balotelli remains the only player with 100 percent conversation, despite playing only 8 times. His run and hoop technique is one of the best PK techniques after Jorginho If I had a gun on my head, I'd choose Jorginho to take a PK in order to save my life.

Ronald knows he's terrible at freekick, but he keeps playing anyway. That's one thing I don't like about his game; he's been taking freekicks to the birds for two years, so why keep taking? Why not give it to someone else?

Mess
Taking penalties takes mental strength, nothing to do with how good player is otherwise. I am sure all professional players score almost all penalties on training but when the stakes are high it becomes a different story.

Lol.. The bad ones also miss at training as well, which is why they rarely make the top five takers in a PK shootout; they are chosen according on their training results.

[Trofo]

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[cryptofrka]

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