🌍⚽Sportsbet.io AFCON 2024 prediction pool discussion thread

[casperBGD]

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Nigeria will go far in this one, I don't think they win but they are my pick for semifinal.

also see Eagles going far, but not seeing them winning this one
interesting to me that Ghana is listed @15 for a win, they are not at their best, but full of talent

Morocco is also seen as a pick for SF, hosts should be there as well
but my two picks will reside with Ghana to win as underdog, and South Africa to pass group, also as underdog, for the time being

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[Igebotz]

Onana is a good keeper, he just didn't have the right guys in front of him at United, plus all of them are totally not fit to ETH strategy. He wants to play like City but his players want to play like Mourinho lol

What's your definition of a good goal Keeper? A good passer with a dreadlock hairstyle? Onana should be playing as a midfielder and not as goalie. Lol

Same thing in AFC cup, South Korea is talented but they have Klinsmann as coach, I know he's a good guy but he is their biggest weakness. Nigeria will go far in this one, I don't think they win but they are my pick for semifinal.

I've seen enough, if Nigeria manages to qualify from the group stage we won't make it through the quarter finals. This is a team our President just approved $1.3m to support for the tournament.

Call me a madman but our team lacks winining mentality, just play and vibes.

Morroco is winning this one.

[slaman29]

What's your definition of a good goal Keeper? A good passer with a dreadlock hairstyle? Onana should be playing as a midfielder and not as goalie. Lol

A keeper who helped keep Ajax defense the best for 3 years running, 33% clean sheets. Then goes to Italy and keeps 50% clean sheets. I only saw him properly vs City in CL final but he was confident with ball to feet, like all modern keepers. United needed to modernize their goalie, but they forgot Onana style needs defense like Ajax or Inter, or City or Liverpool.

Give him Maguire and Dalot and Wan Bissaka who PANIC with ball, then he cannot keep his own composure.

You right tho lol at this time, he is better DM than keeper thanks to United LOL

Call me a madman but our team lacks winining mentality, just play and vibes.

Morroco is winning this one.

In AFCON the winning team is exactly mentality and how all players buy in. Morocco, Senegal, Egypt seem the most attuned as a team. Like Japan, Morocco, Argentina in WC.

Morocco is also seen as a pick for SF, hosts should be there as well
but my two picks will reside with Ghana to win as underdog, and South Africa to pass group, also as underdog, for the time being

Hosts always go far true, South Africa, I have no idea. In my mind they should be among the best team (among biggest country). Morocco and Egypt and Nigeria seem to follow this logic (size wise).

I’m not sure that Onana’s problems do not lie in himself - I looked at the clips of goals that he missed throughout the entire last season (and part of this season) and I can say that in 25-30 percent of cases this is definitely his mistake. Moreover, often this is not just a mistake, but a mistake due to the fact that he wants to play beautifully and not reliably. That’s why you can find video clips of him making beautiful saves. But on average, it seems to me that he does not play at the level of top goalkeepers.

100% in CL I saw almost all goals his mistake but that is mentality affected by defense in front of him. The same issue turned de Gea from titan into goblin in goal. You can put Ederson and Alisson in United and they will turn into Onana with United defense. Guaranteed.

[Igebotz]

What's your definition of a good goal Keeper? A good passer with a dreadlock hairstyle? Onana should be playing as a midfielder and not as goalie. Lol

A keeper who helped keep Ajax defense the best for 3 years running, 33% clean sheets. Then goes to Italy and keeps 50% clean sheets. I only saw him properly vs City in CL final but he was confident with ball to feet, like all modern keepers. United needed to modernize their goalie, but they forgot Onana style needs defense like Ajax or Inter, or City or Liverpool.

Give him Maguire and Dalot and Wan Bissaka who PANIC with ball, then he cannot keep his own composure.

You right tho lol at this time, he is better DM than keeper thanks to United LOL

Honestly, Ajax had some of the finest CB and DM and had over 84% total win, they were by far one of the most complete teams under ETH and any other goalie could have performed as well as Onana did because he didn't face as many shots on goal as he does now.

De Gea competed for the Golden Glove for three consecutive seasons despite having Maguire and Lindelof in front of him without an actual DM. Manchester United's current defence is an upgrade compared to last season.

Goalie job is to keep out what the defenders missed and not to pass the ball around, I'm not in for this modern ball playing goalie nonsense. Bravo started the whole shit and die off after two good season.

BreakingNews: Onana to miss the first game for Cameron to stay at United- ridiculous decision.

[Trofo]

BreakingNews: Onana to miss the first game for Cameron to stay at United- ridiculous decision.

There was talk that he will play both games earlier and then memes started how he is trying to break record for most conceded goals in 48 hours 

Tottenham players happier then ever. Maybe even their new acquisition, I will try to miss more chances than Nunez - Werner, will manage to score now. To make it even funnier Werner said he came to Spurs to win trophies  I almost dropped from my chair at work after reading that.

[KTChampions]

I’m not sure that Onana’s problems do not lie in himself - I looked at the clips of goals that he missed throughout the entire last season (and part of this season) and I can say that in 25-30 percent of cases this is definitely his mistake. Moreover, often this is not just a mistake, but a mistake due to the fact that he wants to play beautifully and not reliably. That’s why you can find video clips of him making beautiful saves. But on average, it seems to me that he does not play at the level of top goalkeepers.

100% in CL I saw almost all goals his mistake but that is mentality affected by defense in front of him. The same issue turned de Gea from titan into goblin in goal. You can put Ederson and Alisson in United and they will turn into Onana with United defense. Guaranteed.

Interesting point of view. Looking at how Casemiro in just one season (if you take the number of games) turned from the best midfielder in the world (according to Neymar and here I see no reason not to trust Neymar despite the fact that he is an asshole) into someone who is not suitable for United ( looool) i can believe this 100%. United is a merciless graveyard of talent 

[Igebotz]

BreakingNews: Onana to miss the first game for Cameron to stay at United- ridiculous decision.

There was talk that he will play both games earlier and then memes started how he is trying to break record for most conceded goals in 48 hours 

Goalkeeper appears to be a major issue for West African teams; we are stuck with Francis Uzoho, by far Africa's worst goalkeeper, and everyone in Nigeria despises him so much and no matter how poorly he performs, he is still chose above everyone. The Cameron team is experiencing the same thing.

Tottenham players happier then ever. Maybe even their new acquisition, I will try to miss more chances than Nunez - Werner, will manage to score now. To make it even funnier Werner said he came to Spurs to win trophies  I almost dropped from my chair at work after reading that.

Does he know the club he signed for ? Lol   

[Oluwa-btc]

What's your definition of a good goal Keeper? A good passer with a dreadlock hairstyle? Onana should be playing as a midfielder and not as goalie. Lol

A keeper who helped keep Ajax defense the best for 3 years running, 33% clean sheets. Then goes to Italy and keeps 50% clean sheets. I only saw him properly vs City in CL final but he was confident with ball to feet, like all modern keepers. United needed to modernize their goalie, but they forgot Onana style needs defense like Ajax or Inter, or City or Liverpool.

Give him Maguire and Dalot and Wan Bissaka who PANIC with ball, then he cannot keep his own composure.

You right tho lol at this time, he is better DM than keeper thanks to United LOL

Honestly, Ajax had some of the finest CB and DM and had over 84% total win, they were by far one of the most complete teams under ETH and any other goalie could have performed as well as Onana did because he didn't face as many shots on goal as he does now.

De Gea competed for the Golden Glove for three consecutive seasons despite having Maguire and Lindelof in front of him without an actual DM. Manchester United's current defence is an upgrade compared to last season.

Goalie job is to keep out what the defenders missed and not to pass the ball around, I'm not in for this modern ball playing goalie nonsense. Bravo started the whole shit and die off after two good season.

BreakingNews: Onana to miss the first game for Cameron to stay at United- ridiculous decision.

Now you've said it all, I don't like disco tagging Andrea Onana as a bad goalkeeper, he needs good defense and Manchester never had that at the start of this season.

Those defending players at Ajax complemented his performance, and same goes with Inter Milan who they all contributed to the Champions League finals.

Last season David De Gea had Lisandro Martinez and Rapheal Varane most them games. They complemented him and he added his individual performance.
Harry Maguire and Lindelof last season played less. Every big side implementing the modern day stuff you call BS ( Bayern Munich been doing that with Neuer all these while ). Infact, both Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp has both utilized that to win both the Premier League Competition and the UEFA Champions League. I know him to be stubborn when it gets to his international duties, but his more focused on Manchester United than Cameroon. Bottom line is, without bias, Manchester United has a good goalkeeper. He's just had a wrong start with Manchester United from the Pre-season.

[CLS63]

I also agree with the thought that Onana is a good goalkeeper generally. However he made so many big mistakes this season and I think that these weren't related to the defensive players. He caused Manchester United to get eliminated from Europe by causing his team to lose points in both Galatasaray matches in the Champions League.

Tottenham players happier then ever. Maybe even their new acquisition, I will try to miss more chances than Nunez - Werner, will manage to score now. To make it even funnier Werner said he came to Spurs to win trophies  I almost dropped from my chair at work after reading that.

Does he know the club he signed for ? Lol   

I wonder what Harry Kane thought after reading this statement of Werner's.

[Igebotz]

Now you've said it all, I don't like disco tagging Andrea Onana as a bad goalkeeper, he needs good defense and Manchester never had that at the start of this season.

Manchester United and Liverpool tied for the most clean sheets this season, proving that the defence is not as bad as Onana had you assume. Stop looking at analytics and start watching the game. He's not just a poor shot stopper, but he's also prone to errors.

I wonder what Harry Kane thought after reading this statement of Werner's.

Harry Kane must be chuckling somewhere in the pub; Werner either didn't goggle about Tottenham or is indirectly laughing at the fans. Werner came to watch our game at Bridge twice, won the heart of the fans only to pull the strings. Lol

[Trofo]

Now you've said it all, I don't like disco tagging Andrea Onana as a bad goalkeeper, he needs good defense and Manchester never had that at the start of this season.

Manchester United and Liverpool tied for the most clean sheets this season, proving that the defence is not as bad as Onana had you assume. Stop looking at analytics and start watching the game. He's not just a poor shot stopper, but he's also prone to errors.

I am actually going with just the opposite. You need good defense to keep clean sheets but bad defense is actually perfect for GK to show his worth. It is much easier to be on goal when opponents are shooting at you every few minutes. Even if you concede few, you still make plenty of good saves and build a name for yourself. There is nothing harder for the goalkeeper than having to have to make one good save after doing nothing for 80 minutes. You screw that one up and there is no chance for redemption and you are never totally in the game.

[slaman29]

I know him to be stubborn when it gets to his international duties, but his more focused on Manchester United than Cameroon. Bottom line is, without bias, Manchester United has a good goalkeeper. He's just had a wrong start with Manchester United from the Pre-season.

Agree. I still think Onana is a good keeper. Not great overall but in his form you cannot ignore, and his performance for Cameroon is all that matters. Personally I think his discipline at WC haunts him, and that's partly why he is coming late, I hope he puts on his best tho, or risk being banished by Cameroon.

Interesting point of view. Looking at how Casemiro in just one season (if you take the number of games) turned from the best midfielder in the world (according to Neymar and here I see no reason not to trust Neymar despite the fact that he is an asshole) into someone who is not suitable for United ( looool) i can believe this 100%. United is a merciless graveyard of talent 

Lol yes remember Casemiro scored a lot of goals for United as a defender tho so he did great for points return but honestly he needed a good team around him. United is a mental problem. They act like Galacticos and make statement buys but have a lot of players who need Galactico treatment. Then they face teams who don't fear them, and they all get scared.

AFCON teams are complete opposite, everyone respect every one too much so few goals scored.

[Igebotz]

Now you've said it all, I don't like disco tagging Andrea Onana as a bad goalkeeper, he needs good defense and Manchester never had that at the start of this season.

Manchester United and Liverpool tied for the most clean sheets this season, proving that the defence is not as bad as Onana had you assume. Stop looking at analytics and start watching the game. He's not just a poor shot stopper, but he's also prone to errors.

I am actually going with just the opposite. You need good defense to keep clean sheets but bad defense is actually perfect for GK to show his worth. It is much easier to be on goal when opponents are shooting at you every few minutes. Even if you concede few, you still make plenty of good saves and build a name for yourself. There is nothing harder for the goalkeeper than having to have to make one good save after doing nothing for 80 minutes. You screw that one up and there is no chance for redemption and you are never totally in the game.

That's exactly my point! Onana gets 10 shots on target and concedes 8. De Gea and Krul are good examples of good shot stoppers; these guys faced an average of 7-9 shots on target and produced numerous saves. Pickford is the current good shot stopper in the league, and whether his side wins or loses, he always has a better game for himself.

BreakingNews: The Gambia national team players returned to Gambia shortly after takeoff because the AC on the small plane provided to them was inadequate and nearly smothered the men onboard.

[buwaytress]

Right then, we're near the first game and we've trashed Onana and Nigeria and AFC, but is anyone up for quick sidebets?

I don't know the players well enough, but I'll offer a 1mbtc like-for-like bet on these outcomes of these group games:

• Ivory Coast clean sheet vs Guinea Bissau
• Amoura to score vs Angola
• El Khannouss to have 2+ shots vs Tanzania

If anyone wants to go against them, feel free! Better than bookie odds, so I'm giving away free money haha.

[Trofo]

Right then, we're near the first game and we've trashed Onana and Nigeria and AFC, but is anyone up for quick sidebets?

I don't know the players well enough, but I'll offer a 1mbtc like-for-like bet on these outcomes of these group games:

• Ivory Coast clean sheet vs Guinea Bissau
• Amoura to score vs Angola
• El Khannouss to have 2+ shots vs Tanzania

If anyone wants to go against them, feel free! Better than bookie odds, so I'm giving away free money haha.

Ok, I will take you for Amoura to score against Angola. So my bet is that he doesn't score. Seems like good bet even if I have no idea who Amoura is and which country he plays for. So I would appreciate if you tell me that. Angola is usually quite solid in defense and that is enough for me.

[casperBGD]

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Seems like good bet even if I have no idea who Amoura is and which country he plays for. So I would appreciate if you tell me that. Angola is usually quite solid in defense and that is enough for me.

seems that buwaytress is following Jupiler league, as well as Dutch Ere
it is a new addition and young star from title fighting Royale Union in Belgium, and in top form for the club
not sure for Algeria dough

wouldn't go on other sidebets, seem as good choices from your side

[un_rank]

I have placed some bets for the first few matches. I must say it is like walking in blind with the predictions cause international matches are few and far between.

Might not get to see all the matches so most of my choices will be based on what the bookies have to say. As the tournament progresses, favorites will become clearer. Wish me luck 

- Jay -

[KTChampions]

Interesting point of view. Looking at how Casemiro in just one season (if you take the number of games) turned from the best midfielder in the world (according to Neymar and here I see no reason not to trust Neymar despite the fact that he is an asshole) into someone who is not suitable for United ( looool) i can believe this 100%. United is a merciless graveyard of talent 

Lol yes remember Casemiro scored a lot of goals for United as a defender tho so he did great for points return but honestly he needed a good team around him. United is a mental problem. They act like Galacticos and make statement buys but have a lot of players who need Galactico treatment. Then they face teams who don't fear them, and they all get scared.

AFCON teams are complete opposite, everyone respect every one too much so few goals scored.

Do you expect the same low performance as in the World Cup qualifiers? The most popular score is 1-0, 0-0, 0-1? Tomorrow we need to make a forecast for the poll, and I haven’t decided how to forecast yet  There are many teams of completely different levels in the groups, so I still expect better perfomanc, but in games of teams of equal strength, we should probably make the choice 0-0, not 1-1 if we assume that there will be a draw.

[Trofo]

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Number is growing steadily. We did not reach 20 yet but I don't we are that far off. Will do a bit of recap tomorrow and post it here.

Really hope this AFCON will be much better than last one   Nobody wants to watch 0:0 games.

[cryptofrka]

A lot of heavy favorites in the first few group games, I think we'll see a bunch of goals in this round.
Generally though - I'd bet on a low-scoring tournament again.

Are there any teams other than the host that will have a home atmosphere in Ivory Coast? Not really familiar with politics there, will Guinea/Ghana have any advantage or not?