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Something is not right about the Fury vs Whyte fight because the WBC have given Whyte to return signed contracts by 21st February 2022. It seems the brother of Whyte is saying the fight might not go ahead. Whyte is after a 70/30 split of the purse and this is getting messy but Fury has been taunting Whyte is typical Fury fashion
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Something is not right about the Fury vs Whyte fight because the WBC have given Whyte to return signed contracts by 21st February 2022. It seems the brother of Whyte is saying the fight might not go ahead. Whyte is after a 70/30 split of the purse and this is getting messy but Fury has been taunting Whyte is typical Fury fashion Isn't he already getting 25%? That's the best payday he'll be getting ever unless he wins the fight for that extra 4 mill bonus (which he probably knows almost certainly isn't going to happen). Maybe this is just a business tactic to try squeeze some extra juice out of it before signing. I doubt Dillian is going to let this fight slip away though so I'm sure he'll sign on the dotted line before the due date and is probably just being cheeky trying to see what extra he can get. It's going to be annoying if all these fights keep getting pushed back because it leads to less big-name fights for this year and I'm sure we're all wanting to see the winners of this fight and the AJ Usyk before the end of the year.
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February 02, 2022, 09:56:15 PM |
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It seems the brother of Whyte is saying the fight might not go ahead.
Maybe the brother is having the feeling that Whyte may not be able to survive the fight if he goes ahead to fight Fury. Sometimes feelings like that can come up and it is better to prevent death in he ring. Whyte is no march for Fury at all. Am sure whatever split Whyte is asking for may be to stall the fight as he is likely to know that the Fury side may not agree to it. Whyte is after a 70/30 split of the purse and this is getting messy but Fury has been taunting Whyte is typical Fury fashion Is there any boxer who does not taunt? It is a psychological thing for all of them.
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Something is not right about the Fury vs Whyte fight because the WBC have given Whyte to return signed contracts by 21st February 2022. It seems the brother of Whyte is saying the fight might not go ahead. Whyte is after a 70/30 split of the purse and this is getting messy but Fury has been taunting Whyte is typical Fury fashion It is a fact that Dillian Whyte is not showing any interest for the fight, i doubt it is because of the fight purse because a loss here from Tyson Fury will delay his chances for a rematch against Anthony Joshua and that is a huge money fight for him as well and he does have a real chance to beat Anthony Joshua rather than defeating Tyson Fury, so you cannot complain about his tactics as well .
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There were hassles in trying to promote the fight because Whyte was after 70/30 split from the beginning which is why the WBC took action and forced a blind bid and also a split which was nearer to 80/20 but with a bonus involved for the winner. Currently as it stands, Whyte will get $7.4 million for the fight which is around 18% of the $41 million purse and Fury will get $29.5 million which is around 72%. To be fair to Whyte he has a point because he was hoping to get $12 million for a 30% share because he is the WBC number one contender. Even if Whyte somehow manages to win the fight he will pocket $7.4 million plus the $4.1 million bonus which equates to $11.5 million which is around 28% of the purse. I sympathise with him because the purse split works in favour of Fury because he will probably win in style and pocket the $4.1 million bonus which takes his total of the purse to $33.6 million which is around 82%. Keeping all that aside, I would cite Whyte as being at fault here because he should have negotiated a deal before the WBC forced all this to happen. Now he can go arbitration trying to get a bigger share but it is probably too late. If Whyte fails to sign the contract by 21st February 2022 then the WBC might remove Whyte from as number one contender and Whyte might never get another chance to fight for a heavyweight title again. I would like to see this fight take place then wait for a heavyweight unification fight happen before the end of the year. Something is not right about the Fury vs Whyte fight because the WBC have given Whyte to return signed contracts by 21st February 2022. It seems the brother of Whyte is saying the fight might not go ahead. Whyte is after a 70/30 split of the purse and this is getting messy but Fury has been taunting Whyte is typical Fury fashion Isn't he already getting 25%? That's the best payday he'll be getting ever unless he wins the fight for that extra 4 mill bonus (which he probably knows almost certainly isn't going to happen). Maybe this is just a business tactic to try squeeze some extra juice out of it before signing. I doubt Dillian is going to let this fight slip away though so I'm sure he'll sign on the dotted line before the due date and is probably just being cheeky trying to see what extra he can get. It's going to be annoying if all these fights keep getting pushed back because it leads to less big-name fights for this year and I'm sure we're all wanting to see the winners of this fight and the AJ Usyk before the end of the year.
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There were hassles in trying to promote the fight because Whyte was after 70/30 split from the beginning which is why the WBC took action and forced a blind bid and also a split which was nearer to 80/20 but with a bonus involved for the winner.
Currently as it stands, Whyte will get $7.4 million for the fight which is around 18% of the $41 million purse and Fury will get $29.5 million which is around 72%. To be fair to Whyte he has a point because he was hoping to get $12 million for a 30% share because he is the WBC number one contender.
Even if Whyte somehow manages to win the fight he will pocket $7.4 million plus the $4.1 million bonus which equates to $11.5 million which is around 28% of the purse. I sympathise with him because the purse split works in favour of Fury because he will probably win in style and pocket the $4.1 million bonus which takes his total of the purse to $33.6 million which is around 82%.
Keeping all that aside, I would cite Whyte as being at fault here because he should have negotiated a deal before the WBC forced all this to happen. Now he can go arbitration trying to get a bigger share but it is probably too late. If Whyte fails to sign the contract by 21st February 2022 then the WBC might remove Whyte from as number one contender and Whyte might never get another chance to fight for a heavyweight title again.
I would like to see this fight take place then wait for a heavyweight unification fight happen before the end of the year.
Whyte should understand that this is the one and only chance to get at a world title again if he loses the opportunity he will have a long wait to get a crack again because there's negotiation for World title unification and there's also Joshua and besides this is a Fury, considered to be the number one heavyweight champion, he should move forward get himself ready for the biggest fight of his career if he wins this one, it's like winning a lottery he will be in command and he is in a better position to deal now. Based on the poll nobody wants to put a bet on Whyte even if he is capable of knocking out Fury, I also don't see him hitting Fury because he is to huge and to quick for Whyte.
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February 03, 2022, 11:05:11 AM |
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I'm still rooting on Fury with this one even though Whyte has defeated Alexander Povetkin in their second fight, he still has lots to learn compared to Tyson Fury. The guy is undefeated and has a high rate of knocking down his opponent in a surprising way. I want to watch Fury fight again, no matter who will be his opponent he can actually beat them and somehow win the fight.
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There were hassles in trying to promote the fight because Whyte was after 70/30 split from the beginning which is why the WBC took action and forced a blind bid and also a split which was nearer to 80/20 but with a bonus involved for the winner.
Currently as it stands, Whyte will get $7.4 million for the fight which is around 18% of the $41 million purse and Fury will get $29.5 million which is around 72%. To be fair to Whyte he has a point because he was hoping to get $12 million for a 30% share because he is the WBC number one contender.
Even if Whyte somehow manages to win the fight he will pocket $7.4 million plus the $4.1 million bonus which equates to $11.5 million which is around 28% of the purse. I sympathise with him because the purse split works in favour of Fury because he will probably win in style and pocket the $4.1 million bonus which takes his total of the purse to $33.6 million which is around 82%.
It seems it's actually an 80/20 split according to sources (unless they've rounded it up): https://www.ringtv.com/633384-dillian-whyte-continues-to-pursue-equitable-purse-split-versus-tyson-fury/Which I think is fair to be honest and they're both getting what they deserve. Fury earned a minimum of £20million for the trilogy fight against Wilder while Whyte only earned £4million for his rematch against Povetkin. I can't blame him for wanting more but he's really not the draw here. I don't think the PPV numbers will do anything close to what the Fury/Wilder fights did and next to nobody is going to be watching this for Dillian. Whyte should understand that this is the one and only chance to get at a world title again if he loses the opportunity he will have a long wait to get a crack again because there's negotiation for World title unification and there's also Joshua and besides this is a Fury, considered to be the number one heavyweight champion, he should move forward get himself ready for the biggest fight of his career if he wins this one, it's like winning a lottery he will be in command and he is in a better position to deal now.
Based on the poll nobody wants to put a bet on Whyte even if he is capable of knocking out Fury, I also don't see him hitting Fury because he is to huge and to quick for Whyte.
He isn't going to let this chance go. He'll just kick up a fuss to try squeeze some extra cash out of the fight but I'd bet a bollock he signs that contract before the deal expires. He loses far too much by not taking it and especially when the belts are on the line.
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My understanding is that the blind bid was $41 million and it has been accepted by the WBC. What the WBC decided to do in order to force the fight because Fury and Whyte could not agree terms was to operate a blind bid. After that they wanted to keep 10% of the bid ($4.1 million) as a bonus for the winner and wanted the 80/20 split of the remaining 90% What that means is it is actually 90% of the $41 million that will be split 80/20 which equates to: 90% of $41 million = $36.9 million 10% of $41 million to the winner as a bonus = $4.1 million 80% of $36.9 million to Fury ($29.5 million) 20% of $36.9 million to Whyte ($7.38 million) Whyte is looking at arbitration in trying to get that $41 million changed to a straight 70/30 split because he feels he is getting less than he deserves. He is the WBC number one contender. It might have been different if Fury was billed to fight say Wilder or Usyk or Joshua and one of them got injured so Whyte or Parker were called in at short notice to take the fight - then all the negotiating power would be with Fury but Whyte is the official WBC number contender so he deserves to get more than the $7.4 million. If Whyte drags this out past 21st February 2022 without returning a signed contract to the WBC all the while Fury is making it clear he is sticking to financial arrangements imposed by the WBC, then Whyte will be stripped of the number contender status and will probably not get another chance. Fury will simply move on to another fighter the WBC award the number one contender title to. https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1030964/anthony-joshua-tyson-fury-dillian-whyte-purse-bids/There were hassles in trying to promote the fight because Whyte was after 70/30 split from the beginning which is why the WBC took action and forced a blind bid and also a split which was nearer to 80/20 but with a bonus involved for the winner.
Currently as it stands, Whyte will get $7.4 million for the fight which is around 18% of the $41 million purse and Fury will get $29.5 million which is around 72%. To be fair to Whyte he has a point because he was hoping to get $12 million for a 30% share because he is the WBC number one contender.
Even if Whyte somehow manages to win the fight he will pocket $7.4 million plus the $4.1 million bonus which equates to $11.5 million which is around 28% of the purse. I sympathise with him because the purse split works in favour of Fury because he will probably win in style and pocket the $4.1 million bonus which takes his total of the purse to $33.6 million which is around 82%.
It seems it's actually an 80/20 split according to sources (unless they've rounded it up): https://www.ringtv.com/633384-dillian-whyte-continues-to-pursue-equitable-purse-split-versus-tyson-fury/Which I think is fair to be honest and they're both getting what they deserve. Fury earned a minimum of £20million for the trilogy fight against Wilder while Whyte only earned £4million for his rematch against Povetkin. I can't blame him for wanting more but he's really not the draw here. I don't think the PPV numbers will do anything close to what the Fury/Wilder fights did and next to nobody is going to be watching this for Dillian. Whyte should understand that this is the one and only chance to get at a world title again if he loses the opportunity he will have a long wait to get a crack again because there's negotiation for World title unification and there's also Joshua and besides this is a Fury, considered to be the number one heavyweight champion, he should move forward get himself ready for the biggest fight of his career if he wins this one, it's like winning a lottery he will be in command and he is in a better position to deal now.
Based on the poll nobody wants to put a bet on Whyte even if he is capable of knocking out Fury, I also don't see him hitting Fury because he is to huge and to quick for Whyte.
He isn't going to let this chance go. He'll just kick up a fuss to try squeeze some extra cash out of the fight but I'd bet a bollock he signs that contract before the deal expires. He loses far too much by not taking it and especially when the belts are on the line.
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If Whyte drags this out past 21st February 2022 without returning a signed contract to the WBC all the while Fury is making it clear he is sticking to financial arrangements imposed by the WBC, then Whyte will be stripped of the number contender status and will probably not get another chance. Fury will simply move on to another fighter the WBC award the number one contender title to.
Am sure Whyte will sign the contract before the deadline because he stands to lose more if he does not. Also, he seems like a man who will need that money to sort out bills if we consider how little his last fight made him. He has to understand that his hands are tied here. If he wants to earn better he has to beat Fury in the fight and then stand a chance to call the shots next time as a champ after that. I do not like the split too but there is nothing we can do to change it.
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I hope Whyte will sign the contract too. I am convinced he deserves a bigger share of the purse, it should be around $12 million in his pocket but instead he is going to receive $7.4 million. Younger boxers are coming up through the ranks therefore it is hard to see how Whyte will be ever be the WBC number one contender again in future - he has to seize this opportunity and try his best in the ring to dominate Fury even though the chances of him winning are slim to none. In my opinion, Fury will have an easy fight and an easy victory. If Whyte drags this out past 21st February 2022 without returning a signed contract to the WBC all the while Fury is making it clear he is sticking to financial arrangements imposed by the WBC, then Whyte will be stripped of the number contender status and will probably not get another chance. Fury will simply move on to another fighter the WBC award the number one contender title to.
Am sure Whyte will sign the contract before the deadline because he stands to lose more if he does not. Also, he seems like a man who will need that money to sort out bills if we consider how little his last fight made him. He has to understand that his hands are tied here. If he wants to earn better he has to beat Fury in the fight and then stand a chance to call the shots next time as a champ after that. I do not like the split too but there is nothing we can do to change it.
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I hope Whyte will sign the contract too. I am convinced he deserves a bigger share of the purse, it should be around $12 million in his pocket but instead he is going to receive $7.4 million. Younger boxers are coming up through the ranks therefore it is hard to see how Whyte will be ever be the WBC number one contender again in future - he has to seize this opportunity and try his best in the ring to dominate Fury even though the chances of him winning are slim to none.
In my opinion, Fury will have an easy fight and an easy victory.
Like you, I'm 100% sure he'll sign the contract or he will regret this for the rest of his life every heavyweight would like to be in his position right now, fighting for millions of dollars and having a chance to fight the undisputed heavyweight champion, even if he is not getting a good percentage, that's one way to motivate yourself that you'll get more if you beat Fury, the odds are too huge, but if Ruiz did, it why not Whyte
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In my opinion, Fury will have an easy fight and an easy victory.
That is what it looks like and it is the general believe. I do not foresee an upset. Whyte looks weary and tired out already psychologically from what I see in him. Am sure this will be his last fight in the ring. I do have pity on him though but am sure he too would have asked for a bigger portion if he is the champion going into that fight. That is life for you. We do not always get what we want all the time. I hope he does not get severely beaten to the point of death. We saw how Fury dealt with Wilder in the rematch fight and burst his ear drum. Fury is a beast of a fighter.
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That is what it looks like and it is the general believe.
You shouldn't have said it general belief when we both know that one man's food is another man's poison. Although, Fury is a great fighter but he came out of a bad situation, rebuild himself and he's now a champ I think thats also the story of Whyte now. I think we should underestimate him while will overestimate Fury since they are once a friend and probably have some weaknesses about each other. I do not foresee an upset. Whyte looks weary and tired out already psychologically from what I see in him.
Thats what I once believe but after since last fight with Povetkin I see something different and that why I believe he's still has a chance against Fury.
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In my opinion, Fury will have an easy fight and an easy victory.
That is what it looks like and it is the general believe. I do not foresee an upset. Whyte looks weary and tired out already psychologically from what I see in him. Am sure this will be his last fight in the ring. I do have pity on him though but am sure he too would have asked for a bigger portion if he is the champion going into that fight. That is life for you. We do not always get what we want all the time. I hope he does not get severely beaten to the point of death. We saw how Fury dealt with Wilder in the rematch fight and burst his ear drum. Fury is a beast of a fighter. If I were Fury's trainer I would not advise Fury to go comfortable with Whyte, this is boxing anything can happen in a fight I would not want Fury to have a mentality of Joshua where he feels comfortable going against Andy Ruiz Jr., and look what happen he got the biggest surprised of his life, a 100% Fury can beat against a well-conditioned and 100% Whyte, but if he will go to the fight at 50% he is risking his title and record.
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I respect Whyte for coming back from the shock defeat to Povetkin and winning the rematch with style but Fury is way ahead in teems of power and skills. Techincally, Whyte is not even close to being in the same league as Fury and if he will lose this fight he should try his best to try to get a bigger share of the purse. I really do not like the way Whyte has been treated here with regards to the financial split and I hope his plans via arbitration to get more money is successful but it will not affect the opinion that Fury should have a very easy fight. In my opinion, Fury will have an easy fight and an easy victory.
That is what it looks like and it is the general believe. I do not foresee an upset. Whyte looks weary and tired out already psychologically from what I see in him. Am sure this will be his last fight in the ring. I do have pity on him though but am sure he too would have asked for a bigger portion if he is the champion going into that fight. That is life for you. We do not always get what we want all the time. I hope he does not get severely beaten to the point of death. We saw how Fury dealt with Wilder in the rematch fight and burst his ear drum. Fury is a beast of a fighter.
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I hope Whyte will sign the contract too. I am convinced he deserves a bigger share of the purse, it should be around $12 million in his pocket but instead he is going to receive $7.4 million. Younger boxers are coming up through the ranks therefore it is hard to see how Whyte will be ever be the WBC number one contender again in future - he has to seize this opportunity and try his best in the ring to dominate Fury even though the chances of him winning are slim to none.
In my opinion, Fury will have an easy fight and an easy victory.
He'll sign it before the deadline. There's no way he's walking away from this fight over a little extra cash. He's just trying to squeeze some more juice out of it which is what I would do in his position so I can't blame him. He won't get this opportunity again and it's more than just cash on the line as the belts are up for grabs so he's just playing hardball whilst he can. Like most I don't believe he will trouble Fury but you never know with boxing. Even a good performance from Whyte will gain him some fans though and up his stock for future fights. One thing I'm excited for about Tyson is he's actively seeking all the fights I want him to and mentioned earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0cS-3f702AAfter Whyte, he wants the winner of Usyk/AJ and then the Francis Ngannou superfight. That would be a great ending trilogy to Tyson's career.
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I really do not like the way Whyte has been treated here with regards to the financial split and I hope his plans via arbitration to get more money is successful but it will not affect the opinion that Fury should have a very easy fight.
It's quite the split, however nothing out of the ordinary for boxing. While, I'm not saying its right, I'd be willing to step in the ring with Fury for a couple of million. It's a record breaking amount I believe, which means despite his split being low in terms of percentage, it's still a large amount of money. I don't know what Whyte has made in past fights, but I can't imagine it being bigger than what he's getting from this fight, and if it was then it wouldn't be by much. Fury should have an easy night, but you never know with Fury. He has demonstrated before that in lesser opponents he tends to get hit a lot more, and doesn't seem as motivated. See the Wallin fight, unless I'm actually discrediting Wallin there, and he's actually better than a lot of people think. Though, I do think Fury underestimated that fight, and on the night despite winning pretty much convincingly could have gone about it a safer way. If he does that against Whyte then there's definitely a potential knockout on the cards.
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There is no doubting Whyte can pack a punch therefore once inside the ring anything can happen. Just one punch connected well to the opponent can end the fight but not many will have Whyte winning. The thread poll shows 19-1 in favour of Fury. Regarding the split, Canelo vs Golovkin was 55/45... Joshua vs Parker was around 65-70/30-35. I think it is usually (but not always) the case that the split is around 70/30. Whyte is not looking at the $7.4 million he is guaranteed, he is looking at 30% of the purse which means he should receive over $12 million. Even at 20% he should be getting $8.2 million and at 25% he should be getting $10.25 million. There is no doubt Whyte is being forced to fight for a smaller percentage than he deserves. I really do not like the way Whyte has been treated here with regards to the financial split and I hope his plans via arbitration to get more money is successful but it will not affect the opinion that Fury should have a very easy fight.
It's quite the split, however nothing out of the ordinary for boxing. While, I'm not saying its right, I'd be willing to step in the ring with Fury for a couple of million. It's a record breaking amount I believe, which means despite his split being low in terms of percentage, it's still a large amount of money. I don't know what Whyte has made in past fights, but I can't imagine it being bigger than what he's getting from this fight, and if it was then it wouldn't be by much. Fury should have an easy night, but you never know with Fury. He has demonstrated before that in lesser opponents he tends to get hit a lot more, and doesn't seem as motivated. See the Wallin fight, unless I'm actually discrediting Wallin there, and he's actually better than a lot of people think. Though, I do think Fury underestimated that fight, and on the night despite winning pretty much convincingly could have gone about it a safer way. If he does that against Whyte then there's definitely a potential knockout on the cards.
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After Whyte, he wants the winner of Usyk/AJ and then the Francis Ngannou superfight. That would be a great ending trilogy to Tyson's career.
You think he will end his career after several fights? There is still Joseph Parker that might give Fury some troubles. What about fourth fight against Wilder? That will be hilarious and really humiliating if he wins. Situation with Fury might turn into situation with Canelo, when there are no more new opponent to beat. With Canelo, there are options to change fighting division, with Fury - doubtfully. That the only option for him to fight, Ruiz for example, looser of Usyk/AJ.
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