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There is much debate about whether sanctions have the same effect as were supposed before they were imposed. But the undisputed fact remains that russia is just running out of money, which is very good. They can shout as much as they want that they have the best army, but when there is no money for daily needs and store shelves becomes empty, it is somehow difficult to think about financing the creation of new tanks and missiles.
Yeah, people do not care about having the highest military or whatsoever, the most important thing to them is having a good economy and enough food for everyone to be healthy. If their economy should continue to go down, and things continues to be difficult in the country, a lot of people might start lashing out at their government, and they would start requesting that the government should look into making peace and bringing things back to order as it were before. The sanction that has been imposed on Russia has affected a lot of individuals, and I believe that those individuals wouldn’t be happy right now due to what has happened.
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April 03, 2022, 11:32:53 PM |
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So what else would you have suggested that the world should do apart from sanction? Do you have a better option than what is being done already? Would have been good if you stated your own opinion on what would have been done instead of placing sanctions on Russia.
As for me I believe that this action is a good move as that would cripple their economy. and the reason that this sanction was placed on Russia is because that the world wanted them to end the war, and they were warned beforehand. But, since they have decided to go ahead and attack Ukraine the world then decided to place sanction on them as a way to cripple their economy and also force them to give up.
^ If there was no such thing as sanctions in the world, then the countries would have been wiped out by fighting among themselves. Not having a ban means getting a license to do whatever you want. Russia is acting dictatorially and Ukraine is facing a terrible war. The war may not have caused much damage to Russia, but the war in Ukraine has brought a terrible situation, and it is clear that Russia will not stop without completely crippling Ukraine. And you know that other countries have mixed opinions about this war. Most countries do not support this war. But is Russia listening to them? No. Not even in the imagination. So, in my opinion, the various sanctions imposed on Russia are now a timely initiative to prevent Russian aggression.
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April 04, 2022, 01:05:18 PM |
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So what else would you have suggested that the world should do apart from sanction? Do you have a better option than what is being done already? Would have been good if you stated your own opinion on what would have been done instead of placing sanctions on Russia.
As for me I believe that this action is a good move as that would cripple their economy. and the reason that this sanction was placed on Russia is because that the world wanted them to end the war, and they were warned beforehand. But, since they have decided to go ahead and attack Ukraine the world then decided to place sanction on them as a way to cripple their economy and also force them to give up.
The current military aggression by Russia, which is trying to seize Ukraine by military means, has shown the complete inability of the world community to curb the aggressor country and force it to comply with international norms. I believe that it is necessary to create a completely different world system security. It is necessary to create international armed forces that could be used at lightning speed in such cases when establishing the culprit of unleashing a military conflict. Sanctions are important, but their effect is very slow, and in some cases they are simply not effective, because there are so many loopholes to get around them. The current sanctions against Russia, which continue to intensify, will eventually do their job. But it is necessary that all countries join them.
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April 05, 2022, 07:57:41 AM |
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Yeah, people do not care about having the highest military or whatsoever, the most important thing to them is having a good economy and enough food for everyone to be healthy. If their economy should continue to go down, and things continues to be difficult in the country, a lot of people might start lashing out at their government, and they would start requesting that the government should look into making peace and bringing things back to order as it were before.
The sanction that has been imposed on Russia has affected a lot of individuals, and I believe that those individuals wouldn’t be happy right now due to what has happened.
Unfortunately, those who are dissatisfied with the sanctions and feel the consequences do not draw the right conclusions. They continue to accuse the world of "unfriendliness towards russia", of russophobia andjust the fear of great russia. They do not make causal links between sanctions and the fact that their country is waging war against Ukraine. And not just war, but the destruction of the whole nation. Therefore, sanctions have only an indirect effect, they can drive russians into poverty and hunger, but they do nothing with the ideological component that has been created by russian propaganda for decades.
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April 10, 2022, 08:21:20 AM |
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Will sanctions revive the lost souls in the Ukraine war? Even if properties can be bought, what about pain and agony and war trauma? The USA and the Western world are those that are escalating the war to the present stage. giving weapons to Ukraine to stand and fight a war they may not possibly win should it happens to them instead of toiling the part of the peace
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April 10, 2022, 08:49:08 AM |
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Will sanctions revive the lost souls in the Ukraine war? Even if properties can be bought, what about pain and agony and war trauma? The USA and the Western world are those that are escalating the war to the present stage. giving weapons to Ukraine to stand and fight a war they may not possibly win should it happens to them instead of toiling the part of the peace
Of course not and even the sanctions imposed by European countries and the United States on Russia don't seem to mean much, I think diplomacy is a better way than imposing sanctions, but even so, diplomacy doesn't run smoothly. humanity is more important and hope this war can end soon
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April 10, 2022, 11:41:37 AM |
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Will sanctions revive the lost souls in the Ukraine war? Even if properties can be bought, what about pain and agony and war trauma? The USA and the Western world are those that are escalating the war to the present stage. giving weapons to Ukraine to stand and fight a war they may not possibly win should it happens to them instead of toiling the part of the peace
Of course not and even the sanctions imposed by European countries and the United States on Russia don't seem to mean much, I think diplomacy is a better way than imposing sanctions, but even so, diplomacy doesn't run smoothly. humanity is more important and hope this war can end soon I also think that international sanctions are not the right choice. Because it is proven until now that Russia has not stopped their invasion, even according to the data I read in articles on the internet, Russia is currently the country with the most international sanctions. But Russia is not afraid of the international sanctions imposed on them. Since a country as big as Russia must have thought about the repercussions of their invasion, so they already have a solution to overcome it. So there has to be another way to stop what the Russians are doing, you are right diplomacy is indeed a much better way to do it. But it's not that easy to do diplomacy, because looking at Putin's character the diplomatic path will be difficult to reach an agreement. There is another way, namely by changing the regime in Russia, but Putin's absolutism and nuclear power run the risk of more casualties, so still diplomacy is the best way to do it. For the safety of Ukrainian civilians, I hope this war can be stopped as soon as possible.
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Sanctions put pressure on Putin, but were not strong enough to force him to back down. Russia has had first-hand experience with sanctions when they invaded Crimea, so they were expecting this and took it into account. What would have made Putin stop was a treaty with NATO but that's a bit too late now, is it? If the US doesn't have any ill intentions against Russia, then it's very easy for them to say "no, we're not going to make Ukraine an ally" because Ukraine doesn't qualify anyway. And since it's a treaty, the US could have made counter demands like "they would only agree if Russia promises never to invade any country again." But they didn't, proving all of Putin's claims in the face of the world. Yet the rest of the world decided to join the US in sanctioning Russia anyway, which they've never done when the US invaded Afghanistan for a fabricated claim. But Russia will survive the sanction and the countries that sanctioned it will be the true losers of this war because they've lost a lot but didn't gain anything. Ukraine is still gripped by war.
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April 11, 2022, 04:51:27 PM |
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Sanctions put pressure on Putin, but were not strong enough to force him to back down. Russia has had first-hand experience with sanctions when they invaded Crimea, so they were expecting this and took it into account. What would have made Putin stop was a treaty with NATO but that's a bit too late now, is it? If the US doesn't have any ill intentions against Russia, then it's very easy for them to say "no, we're not going to make Ukraine an ally" because Ukraine doesn't qualify anyway. And since it's a treaty, the US could have made counter demands like "they would only agree if Russia promises never to invade any country again." But they didn't, proving all of Putin's claims in the face of the world. Yet the rest of the world decided to join the US in sanctioning Russia anyway, which they've never done when the US invaded Afghanistan for a fabricated claim. But Russia will survive the sanction and the countries that sanctioned it will be the true losers of this war because they've lost a lot but didn't gain anything. Ukraine is still gripped by war.
You have described the problem very well. All the world's media are shouting that the war started because Putin wants to conquer Ukraine and take it for himself, but no one remembers that for several years he asked the West to refuse to join Ukraine in NATO, not to interfere in Russia's affairs. In the end, how did.
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April 12, 2022, 11:35:41 AM |
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Sanctions put pressure on Putin, but were not strong enough to force him to back down. Russia has had first-hand experience with sanctions when they invaded Crimea, so they were expecting this and took it into account. What would have made Putin stop was a treaty with NATO but that's a bit too late now, is it? If the US doesn't have any ill intentions against Russia, then it's very easy for them to say "no, we're not going to make Ukraine an ally" because Ukraine doesn't qualify anyway. And since it's a treaty, the US could have made counter demands like "they would only agree if Russia promises never to invade any country again." But they didn't, proving all of Putin's claims in the face of the world. Yet the rest of the world decided to join the US in sanctioning Russia anyway, which they've never done when the US invaded Afghanistan for a fabricated claim. But Russia will survive the sanction and the countries that sanctioned it will be the true losers of this war because they've lost a lot but didn't gain anything. Ukraine is still gripped by war.
You have described the problem very well. All the world's media are shouting that the war started because Putin wants to conquer Ukraine and take it for himself, but no one remembers that for several years he asked the West to refuse to join Ukraine in NATO, not to interfere in Russia's affairs. In the end, how did. Ok, let's assume you're right. Then a couple of simple questions: 1. When did Ukraine officially decide to join NATO? 2. Before that, were there NATO countries bordering Russia? If so, do they pose a threat to Russia? And why is Ukraine more dangerous for Russia? 3. What happened before - the event of the annexation of the Crimea and part of the eastern regions, or Ukraine's statement about the desire to join NATO?
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April 12, 2022, 11:49:21 AM |
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Ok, let's assume you're right. Then a couple of simple questions: 1. When did Ukraine officially decide to join NATO? 2. Before that, were there NATO countries bordering Russia? If so, do they pose a threat to Russia? And why is Ukraine more dangerous for Russia? 3. What happened before - the event of the annexation of the Crimea and part of the eastern regions, or Ukraine's statement about the desire to join NATO?
Okay, let's look at this story in terms of the chronology of events: 1994 February, Ukraine signed a framework agreement with NATO as part of the Partnership for Peace initiative
1995 to 2003 Ukraine and the United States annually conduct the Peace Shield exercise
1997 July, at the NATO summit in Madrid, the “Charter on a Distinctive Partnership between NATO and Ukraine” was signed.
1997 July, command and staff exercises "Cooperative Neighbor-1997" were held in Yavoriv
1997, Yeltsin and Kuchma signed an agreement on the presence of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation in Sevastopol for the next 20 years until 2017
1997 An agreement was signed between the Russian Federation and NATO on the non-deployment of NATO bases in the countries of Eastern Europe and the Baltic States of permanent bases.
1997 NATO Information and Documentation Center opened in Kyiv.
1998 a Ukrainian representative office appeared at NATO headquarters and a special military representative of Ukraine began work
1998 November, President Kuchma signed the "Program of cooperation between Ukraine and NATO for the period up to 2001"
1999 April, NATO mission opened in Kyiv.
1999 June, Ukraine supported the NATO operation in the Balkans.
1999 Ukraine-NATO summit
2000 for the first time in history, the annual meeting of NATO's main political body, the North Atlantic Council, was held in Kyiv, outside of NATO member countries,
2000 Ukraine and NATO signed the "Status of Forces Agreement"
In 2001, the training center of the International Center for Peacekeeping and Security was opened in Yavoriv, Lviv region.
2002 Ukraine-NATO summit
2002 Adopted the "Individual Partnership Plan with NATO".
2002 May, the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine adopted the NATO Strategy, which provided for the revision of the non-aligned status in favor of starting a process whose ultimate goal was to become a full-fledged NATO membership for Ukraine.
On July 2002, within the framework of the Partnership for Peace program, Ukraine and NATO signed a memorandum on Ukraine's support for NATO operations.
2002 November, The NATO-Ukraine Action Plan is adopted, the relationship is further strengthened, within the framework of this plan annual Ukraine-NATO Target Plans began to be developed.
In 2002, the exercises "Cooperative Adventure-2002" were held on the territory of Ukraine, which became the largest NATO exercises in the territory of the CIS countries.
Exercises with NATO have been held before. Subsequently, joint exercises with NATO became almost annual.
2003 Ukraine supported the US operation in Iraq by sending its "peacekeeping contingent" to the region[18].
2004 April, the Verkhovna Rada adopted a law on the free access of NATO forces to the territory of Ukraine.
June 2004, in the Military Doctrine of Ukraine, a provision appeared on Ukraine's policy of Euro-Atlantic integration, the ultimate goal of which was to join NATO.
2004 July, following a meeting of the Ukraine-NATO Commission, President Kuchma issued a decree stating that joining NATO was no longer the country's goal, only "a significant deepening of relations with NATO and the European Union as guarantors of security and stability in Europe" was needed.
2004 August, US Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld and Ukrainian President Kuchma meet in Crimea
2005 April, after the Orange "revolution" and Yushchenko came to power, a meeting of the "Ukraine-NATO" commission was held as part of an informal meeting of the Foreign Ministers of the NATO countries. Cooperation with NATO acquired the format of "Accelerated Dialogue", which was intended to be the first step towards Ukraine's entry into NATO.
2005 April, Yushchenko returned to the military doctrine of Ukraine the strategic goal of Ukraine - "full membership in NATO and the EU."
January 2006, in Budapest, following a meeting of NATO defense ministers and Ukrainian Defense Minister Hrytsenko, it was announced that these states were ready to support Ukraine's entry into NATO.
April 2006, at a meeting of NATO foreign ministers, the representative of the NATO Secretary General Appathurai said that all members of the alliance support the speedy integration of Ukraine into NATO. Russia, for its part, expressed concern about this development.
2006 September, after the government was headed by Prime Minister Yanukovych, there was a turn in Ukraine's foreign policy. Yanukovych's foreign policy statements contradicted Yushchenko's course.
2006 August, the press service of the new Ukrainian government announced that Ukraine was postponing the adoption of a "NATO membership action plan."
September 2006, Yanukovych paid a working visit to Brussels, where he made a statement about Ukraine's unpreparedness to join NATO.
2008 April, the US made significant efforts to convince its NATO allies of the need for Georgia and Ukraine to join the MAP at the alliance's Bucharest summit. This caused a complication of relations between Russia and NATO.
2008 there was a scandal, the reason for which was the statement of the NATO Secretary General that the organization had received a letter signed by the President of Ukraine, Prime Minister Tymoshenko and Parliament Speaker Yatsenyuk with a request to join Ukraine to the NATO Membership Action Plan.
2009 August, at NATO Headquarters, a Declaration was signed supplementing the Charter on a Distinctive Partnership.
2010 coming to power of Yanukovych. Non-bloc status has once again become a foreign policy priority for Ukraine. The law "On the fundamentals of domestic and foreign policy" was adopted
2010 April, Yanukovych liquidated the interdepartmental commission on preparing the country for NATO accession and the national center for Euro-Atlantic integration
April 2010, in Kharkov, Presidents Medvedev and Yanukovych signed an agreement to extend the stay of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol from 2017 to 2042. This caused indignation among the Ukrainian opposition and a brawl in the Verkhovna Rada.
2010 November, At the NATO summit, the former line on the involvement of Ukraine in the NATO Strategic Concept was consolidated
2013 February, Ukraine officially joined the NATO counter-piracy operation "Ocean Shield"
2013 November, Visit to Ukraine of the delegation of the NATO International Secretariat
2014 February, power changed in Ukraine
2014 February, visit of the delegation of the NATO Council
2014 March, Crimea was taken by Russia
2014 March, Ukrainian military delegation went to NATO Headquarters in Brussels to discuss "areas of strengthening cooperation" between Ukraine and NATO
2014 April, formation of the DNR and LNR
2014 April, a law was adopted on the admission of units of the armed forces of other states to the territory of Ukraine to participate in multinational exercises.
2014 from May to November, Ukraine is scheduled to participate in 15 NATO exercises
2014 NATO Secretary General Rasmussen at a meeting of alliance defense ministers in Brussels said that NATO remains "a sincere friend of Ukraine"
2014 December, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted a bill introduced by President Poroshenko, which canceled the non-bloc status of Ukraine
2015 January, Visit of a NATO delegation to Ukraine to hold the 20th meeting of the NATO-Ukraine joint working group in Kyiv
2015 September, The military doctrine was adopted, the priority task is "deepening cooperation with NATO and achieving full compatibility of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the armies of NATO member countries by 2020."
2016 July, At the NATO summit, Russia was recognized as the main security threat to the alliance, and its containment was officially proclaimed the new NATO mission
2017 June, the Verkhovna Rada enshrined at the legislative level: NATO membership is one of Ukraine's foreign policy priorities
2017 July, NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg opened a new organization office in Kyiv
March 2018, Ukraine received the status of a NATO postgraduate country. Poroshenko asked for a NATO membership action plan to be provided to his country.
2018 July, President Poroshenko signed the law "On the National Security of Ukraine", which will help achieve defense compatibility with NATO countries.
2018 July, in Brussels, within the framework of the NATO summit, a meeting was held in the Ukraine-Georgia-NATO format
In 2019, constitutional amendments came into force, fixing the strategic course for obtaining full membership of Ukraine in the European Union and NATO at the level of a constitutional norm
September 2019, in New York, Zelensky met with NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg.
2019 October, the NATO Council and the Secretary General of the Stoltenberg Alliance visited Ukraine
2020 June, NATO granted Ukraine Enhanced Opportunities Partner status
2021 Ukraine held eight joint exercises with NATO countries
in June 2021, NATO leaders reaffirmed the decision of the 2008 Bucharest summit that Ukraine would be granted a NATO Membership Action Plan
2021 November, a meeting of the Foreign Ministers of NATO countries was held in Riga, to which the Foreign Ministers of Ukraine and Georgia were invited
2021 December, the Russian Foreign Ministry published draft agreements with the United States and NATO countries on ensuring the security of Russia and the alliance member countries. Namely, to legally consolidate NATO's refusal to further expand to the east and join the alliance of Ukraine. Kyiv considers such demands unacceptable.
2021 December, NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg rejected Moscow's demands.
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I feel like sanctions may not be the most perfect solution, but at the same time what else could you do, what options do you have that could help you tell Russia to stop? Europe and the USA wanted to find a way to tell Russia to back off but they didn't know how to do that, which meant that they had one option which was sanctions. They could have attacked in a military way, but that would have resulted with a bloody and risky thing, remember most of these nations have nuclear programs as well.
So, sanctions was the mildest way to tell Russia to back of and stop attacking. I am sure if there was some other way they would have done that, but even this wasn't big enough to stop them anyway.
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I feel like sanctions may not be the most perfect solution, but at the same time what else could you do, what options do you have that could help you tell Russia to stop? Europe and the USA wanted to find a way to tell Russia to back off but they didn't know how to do that, which meant that they had one option which was sanctions. They could have attacked in a military way, but that would have resulted with a bloody and risky thing, remember most of these nations have nuclear programs as well.
So, sanctions was the mildest way to tell Russia to back of and stop attacking. I am sure if there was some other way they would have done that, but even this wasn't big enough to stop them anyway.
This time, sanctions were imposed on Russia, such as weapons for America and especially for European countries, where they cannot escape their dependence on buying oil and gas from Russia. here it is clear that Russia still holds the key and the sanctions seem to have disappeared because Russia is also cooperating with China, where we know China seems to dominate the world economy for now. and I agree that diplomacy with Russia and asking to stop the war is the best way, where if they attack Russia, there seems to be no economic return, it can even be said that they will suffer losses, apart from Russia having nuclear weapons.
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.... Okay, let's look at this story in terms of the chronology of events: ....
I'm all for it ! Let's ! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Well then, questions to which I want to hear the answers ! 1. Well, what is the list of events? Specify specifically which of these events is the fact that Ukraine filed a request to join NATO? I will slightly dilute this list with such a fact that for some reason you decided to "forget: - 03/07/2000 Sunday and. about. Russian President Vladimir Putin made a loud statement. In an interview with the BBC, he said that he did not rule out the possibility of Russia joining NATO. Putin said that in 2000 Russia could join NATO. In 2000, during the visit of Bill Clinton, Putin personally made a request to accept Russia into NATO. So my question is - does this mean "NATO threat to the Russian Federation" is a fake? Or if the Russian Federation is in NATO, then it’s not a threat, but if Ukraine, in 2022, then a threat? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) 2. The fact that you sent a lot of text does not mean that you have proven something ... An attempt to simply shower with low-value events that do not confirm Ukraine's ENTRY into NATO BEFORE the Russian aggression, nothing more. Remember - the effectiveness of the work is not measured by the time spent, or the number of characters, it is measured by efficiency. So here the efficiency is 0 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But I appreciated your attempt and I have further questions: 3. Why do you have such a selective or "leaky memory"? Well, let's go through the CHRONOLOGY, taking into account other events, shall we? For example, in 2003 - the incident on Tuzla Island, when the Russian Federation once again showed aggression and tried to seize Ukrainian territory? Forgot, correct - enter! And why is there no attack on Ukraine and the seizure of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea in the list in 2014? And where is Russia's attempt to seize the southeastern regions of Ukraine? Well, what happened to the chronology? 4. And where did the events go, where Russia was the initiator of many military conflicts with the countries of the ex-USSR? Where the Russian Federation either provoked military conflicts or supported terrorist separatists. This will make the picture more complete. Can you help to collect these events ? Or are they like "nothing to do with"? These are full-fledged combat actions. I have not yet taken into account the various types of terrorist attacks carried out by the Russian Federation both inside and outside the Russian Federation. - 1992 Ossetian-Ingush conflict, provoked and controlled by Russia - 1992-1993 - Russia occupied Transnistria - 1992-1993 - Russia provoked and supported the Abkhaz war - 1994-1996 - The first Russian-Chechen war - 1999 - Dagestan war - 1999–2009 - Second Russian-Chechen war - 2008 - Russian-Georgian war The only thing I can admit is that Ukraine, realizing the futility of alliances with the Russian Federation (and this is the "merit" of the Russian Federation itself), was looking for new vectors for the development and restructuring of partnerships to strengthen defense capabilities, develop the economy, participate in more adequate unions than the Customs Union or the stillborn CIS. And what's wrong here?
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I am just asking isn't there is any other alternative that we can use to punish Russia instead of putting sanctions on them. Right now Russian people don't support war with Ukraine but if they lose their economy they might hate the west as well. Why do you think we instill punishment, just in other for the wronged side to receive adequate consequence of it wrong doing and when punishing someone you instill pain and hardship on such entity so as to regret taken such a wrong step, in the case of Russia, sanction is the only way the world could punish Russia except if they will engage on a III world war but what i think should be better in place is for Putin himself to face the consequences by the raised petitions against him for trial.
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Will sanctions revive the lost souls in the Ukraine war? Even if properties can be bought, what about pain and agony and war trauma? The USA and the Western world are those that are escalating the war to the present stage. giving weapons to Ukraine to stand and fight a war they may not possibly win should it happens to them instead of toiling the part of the peace
Putin does not accept any other conditions from Ukraine, other than its complete surrender, the renunciation of a large part of its territories, and the virtual loss of its sovereignty. The Russian military is now massively killing civilians in Ukraine, in fact, having arranged the genocide of the Ukrainian people. Therefore, the Ukrainians have no other way out than to defend their freedom and independence with arms in hand, no matter how hard the price is. With the help of weapons donated by other countries, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already inflicted a crushing military defeat on the occupiers, so Ukraine's position is correct. The current aggression of Russia became possible due to the insufficient rebuff of civilized states to Putin's aggressive plans earlier, when he attacked Georgia in 2008, Moldova and Ukraine in 2014. If Ukraine were now occupied by Russia, Putin would not stop there and went to the Baltic countries and Poland. Tough sanctions against Russia, this is the mildest response of civilized states in this case. In fact, it was more correct in such cases to send international military rapid reaction forces to the aggressor country. Then there would have been a sharp decrease in those wishing to unleash such wars of conquest.
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Russia for many years does not allow its neighboring countries to live in peace, the multiple military conflicts listed in this topic are proof of this. And what is happening now in Ukraine is very reminiscent of what happened in Finland in 1939, russia also "saved the working class", but as it turned out, no one needed its salvation and 3 millionth Finland was able to adequately rebuff the aggressor. Because the Finnish people rallied, they defended their land and their homes, as the Ukrainians do now. Finland also received assistance from the European countries of the allies.
There are many parallels with that war, but russia does not draw any conclusions, a blind desire to revive an unnecessary empire will collapse every time. People who fight for their land, protect their homes will always win. Occupiers who come to a foreign land to loot, kill civilians and destroy their homes will always loose. Because ordinary people will join the army and it will already be a guerrilla war. The outcome of the russian-Ukrainian war has already been determined - this is the failure of all plans of russia. And now they want chop off at least a piece of land in order to frame it as a victory, but I’m not sure they will even that succeed.
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Although undesirable, we should also accept the fact that such factors affect society to help people progress and develop more, it may take time to change negative issues until people realize their own mistakes in their own lives. I was born and raised since the country went through the invasion and the period of economic development. What I felt until now, looking back on all that has happened, is that it is still a matter of control. Controlling interests brings different sides. Maybe we are living in a peaceful time, but looking back at how the big countries have treated us, they invade, control, and limit our business economy. But that also can't prevent a person's learning, obligations, and rights. Our leader expressed the view that a country that cannot shoulder everything on its own but depends on someone for a good future cannot have freedom.
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Sanctions are a way to destroy or weaken a country's economy. Now we are seeing how our habitual existence is changing. I think that if after the imposed sanctions the country has not changed its course, it means they are not working. Maybe it makes sense to change tactics and try to solve the issue in a different way? What will be next? Strengthening sanctions or lifting them?
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April 18, 2022, 10:55:42 PM |
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Sanctions are a way to destroy or weaken a country's economy. Now we are seeing how our habitual existence is changing. I think that if after the imposed sanctions the country has not changed its course, it means they are not working. Maybe it makes sense to change tactics and try to solve the issue in a different way? What will be next? Strengthening sanctions or lifting them?
You cant say that it wasnt working yet we arent really still able to see if they are really secretly been affected with the current sanctions if we do talk about Russia country considering that they have launched some invasive attack or war against UK.We've seen on how other countries and services did really made out some sanctions towards it but we cant really deny that they've been hanging up despite of the condition. Basically means that they had prepared out for such condition or scenario since the leader of that country already knows on what or on how to handle up such situation.
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