PH banned online cockfighting - Worst gambling-related cases recorded!

[South Park]

^ After downloading and depositing Php100 registration fee, they can start betting with cryptocurrencies. Withdrawal would be easy but converting them to fiat would be harder because third party exchanges in the Philippines are highly regulated. I just don't know if these bettors use Binance and other unregistered CEX/Custodial services.

If they are using Cryptocurrency the bettors can keep themselves untracked, they can do peer to peer, using a wallet with internal exchange and trade it on DEX or CEX, or they can even use a mixer if it involved a huge amount, the ballgame changes if they are using Cryptocurrency and it will continue if the authorities cannot trace them.
If there's a will there's a way and we all know gambling operators like online sabong, will find a way because there is huge money to be made here.

We know that even if cockfighting is made illegal there are going to be people that are going to want to take advantage of the situation and they will still organize those fights, but at least by making them illegal you will decrease the amount of animals becoming victims of that activity, and in the case you can find those that are organizing those events then you can put them in jail, so while it is clear that cockfighting will keep existing the number of those events will go down.

[Taskford]

^ After downloading and depositing Php100 registration fee, they can start betting with cryptocurrencies. Withdrawal would be easy but converting them to fiat would be harder because third party exchanges in the Philippines are highly regulated. I just don't know if these bettors use Binance and other unregistered CEX/Custodial services.

If they are using Cryptocurrency the bettors can keep themselves untracked, they can do peer to peer, using a wallet with internal exchange and trade it on DEX or CEX, or they can even use a mixer if it involved a huge amount, the ballgame changes if they are using Cryptocurrency and it will continue if the authorities cannot trace them.
If there's a will there's a way and we all know gambling operators like online sabong, will find a way because there is huge money to be made here.

We know that even if cockfighting is made illegal there are going to be people that are going to want to take advantage of the situation and they will still organize those fights, but at least by making them illegal you will decrease the amount of animals becoming victims of that activity, and in the case you can find those that are organizing those events then you can put them in jail, so while it is clear that cockfighting will keep existing the number of those events will go down.

Actually cockfighting is not totally banned and the one who get stoppage is the famous online betting site which called E-sabong and physical cockfighting still allowed if the owners get a permit and this will be held on proper venue. Although we still have this I think its still ok because not everyone can access easily on physical arena so for sure even if this event is not totally banned for sure we can see the number of gamblers decrease.

[carlisle1]

What seems difficult to me is the total prohibition of this, the reason is simple, if they prohibit it but they see that the business model is very juicy and many people can benefit from it, they will look for a way to do it, this is something normal more when the people are irreverent to governments, because governments or third parties are not strong enough to end an entire network of profits or entertainment.

I think that this will be something difficult to fight, it could generate new ways of doing the fights, this is something that they cannot control but obviously they will or they will find a way to do it.

If there's money there's always a way to continue, the only thing that being prohibited is the online facilitations but the offline will

Continue to work. It's been a part of the culture and people all around do love this kind of gambling. Operator can simply use the

legal cockfighting's arena and ask those gamblers to bet, an easy access to stream the game and let bettors to pick side then earn

from those gamblers who will continue to play.

[traderethereum]

We know that even if cockfighting is made illegal there are going to be people that are going to want to take advantage of the situation and they will still organize those fights, but at least by making them illegal you will decrease the amount of animals becoming victims of that activity, and in the case you can find those that are organizing those events then you can put them in jail, so while it is clear that cockfighting will keep existing the number of those events will go down.

They will continue to play cockfighting if they have played often and the government will find it difficult to ban it because the organizer or people who gamble will hide the place.
But hopefully, the number of the events can go down so that gradually, there will be no more victims, either from animals or people who can become addicted.
But the use of crypto in online cockfighting can make crypto popular among gamblers because they can gamble without using their bank account.

[Yamifoud]

We know that even if cockfighting is made illegal there are going to be people that are going to want to take advantage of the situation and they will still organize those fights, but at least by making them illegal you will decrease the amount of animals becoming victims of that activity, and in the case you can find those that are organizing those events then you can put them in jail, so while it is clear that cockfighting will keep existing the number of those events will go down.

They will continue to play cockfighting if they have played often and the government will find it difficult to ban it because the organizer or people who gamble will hide the place.
But hopefully, the number of the events can go down so that gradually, there will be no more victims, either from animals or people who can become addicted.
But the use of crypto in online cockfighting can make crypto popular among gamblers because they can gamble without using their bank account.

I just found out yesterday from a friend that online esabong still exists with some illegal online platform. We can actually gamble if we like, but we should bear in mind that it's illegal and what we are doing is against the law, if we get scammed, we cannot complain to the authority as including us will be charge.

[Japinat]

We know that even if cockfighting is made illegal there are going to be people that are going to want to take advantage of the situation and they will still organize those fights, but at least by making them illegal you will decrease the amount of animals becoming victims of that activity, and in the case you can find those that are organizing those events then you can put them in jail, so while it is clear that cockfighting will keep existing the number of those events will go down.

They will continue to play cockfighting if they have played often and the government will find it difficult to ban it because the organizer or people who gamble will hide the place.
But hopefully, the number of the events can go down so that gradually, there will be no more victims, either from animals or people who can become addicted.
But the use of crypto in online cockfighting can make crypto popular among gamblers because they can gamble without using their bank account.

I just found out yesterday from a friend that online esabong still exists with some illegal online platform. We can actually gamble if we like, but we should bear in mind that it's illegal and what we are doing is against the law, if we get scammed, we cannot complain to the authority as including us will be charge.

It really exists, but better not try it because if you get hooked, you might be addicted to it and face the problem later. It's banned for a reason, the government sees that the addiction rate has increased due to online sabong, so if you will still persist in gambling despite it's already declared as illegal, you might also be in trouble in the long run.

[robelneo]

We know that even if cockfighting is made illegal there are going to be people that are going to want to take advantage of the situation and they will still organize those fights, but at least by making them illegal you will decrease the amount of animals becoming victims of that activity, and in the case you can find those that are organizing those events then you can put them in jail, so while it is clear that cockfighting will keep existing the number of those events will go down.

They will continue to play cockfighting if they have played often and the government will find it difficult to ban it because the organizer or people who gamble will hide the place.
But hopefully, the number of the events can go down so that gradually, there will be no more victims, either from animals or people who can become addicted.
But the use of crypto in online cockfighting can make crypto popular among gamblers because they can gamble without using their bank account.

I just found out yesterday from a friend that online esabong still exists with some illegal online platform. We can actually gamble if we like, but we should bear in mind that it's illegal and what we are doing is against the law, if we get scammed, we cannot complain to the authority as including us will be charge.

We know gambling operators like E-sabong they will take every opportunity to run their operations even the underground, they know there is demand, they know there is a market, and they know they can make a lot of money from continuing operating their e-sabong, there is competition among operators and they will continue operating if there are other e-sabong operating.

Because of the continuous operation in the underground, there's corruption from authorities and these operators will pay people to protect them, what is grease or protection money if they will rake a lot of profit.

[Japinat]

We know that even if cockfighting is made illegal there are going to be people that are going to want to take advantage of the situation and they will still organize those fights, but at least by making them illegal you will decrease the amount of animals becoming victims of that activity, and in the case you can find those that are organizing those events then you can put them in jail, so while it is clear that cockfighting will keep existing the number of those events will go down.

They will continue to play cockfighting if they have played often and the government will find it difficult to ban it because the organizer or people who gamble will hide the place.
But hopefully, the number of the events can go down so that gradually, there will be no more victims, either from animals or people who can become addicted.
But the use of crypto in online cockfighting can make crypto popular among gamblers because they can gamble without using their bank account.

I just found out yesterday from a friend that online esabong still exists with some illegal online platform. We can actually gamble if we like, but we should bear in mind that it's illegal and what we are doing is against the law, if we get scammed, we cannot complain to the authority as including us will be charge.

We know gambling operators like E-sabong they will take every opportunity to run their operations even the underground, they know there is demand, they know there is a market, and they know they can make a lot of money from continuing operating their e-sabong, there is competition among operators and they will continue operating if there are other e-sabong operating.

Because of the continuous operation in the underground, there's corruption from authorities and these operators will pay people to protect them, what is grease or protection money if they will rake a lot of profit.

Most likely that's what they are doing as it's easy to detect an illegal gambling site, but with protection, these operators will have the confidence to still continue running their business, they are just an online Ponzi scheme that is when discovered by authorities, they will just change into a different domain and recruit people to play for them.

[noormcs5]

We know that even if cockfighting is made illegal there are going to be people that are going to want to take advantage of the situation and they will still organize those fights, but at least by making them illegal you will decrease the amount of animals becoming victims of that activity, and in the case you can find those that are organizing those events then you can put them in jail, so while it is clear that cockfighting will keep existing the number of those events will go down.

They will continue to play cockfighting if they have played often and the government will find it difficult to ban it because the organizer or people who gamble will hide the place.
But hopefully, the number of the events can go down so that gradually, there will be no more victims, either from animals or people who can become addicted.
But the use of crypto in online cockfighting can make crypto popular among gamblers because they can gamble without using their bank account.

I just found out yesterday from a friend that online esabong still exists with some illegal online platform. We can actually gamble if we like, but we should bear in mind that it's illegal and what we are doing is against the law, if we get scammed, we cannot complain to the authority as including us will be charge.

Is that platform operating from Philippines where the online cockfighting is banned ?

If so, better ask him to report it so the authorities may take action to take it down. I hope people show some responsibility and avoid such platforms only to make some money.

[xSkylarx]

We know that even if cockfighting is made illegal there are going to be people that are going to want to take advantage of the situation and they will still organize those fights, but at least by making them illegal you will decrease the amount of animals becoming victims of that activity, and in the case you can find those that are organizing those events then you can put them in jail, so while it is clear that cockfighting will keep existing the number of those events will go down.

They will continue to play cockfighting if they have played often and the government will find it difficult to ban it because the organizer or people who gamble will hide the place.
But hopefully, the number of the events can go down so that gradually, there will be no more victims, either from animals or people who can become addicted.
But the use of crypto in online cockfighting can make crypto popular among gamblers because they can gamble without using their bank account.

I just found out yesterday from a friend that online esabong still exists with some illegal online platform. We can actually gamble if we like, but we should bear in mind that it's illegal and what we are doing is against the law, if we get scammed, we cannot complain to the authority as including us will be charge.

We know gambling operators like E-sabong they will take every opportunity to run their operations even the underground, they know there is demand, they know there is a market, and they know they can make a lot of money from continuing operating their e-sabong, there is competition among operators and they will continue operating if there are other e-sabong operating.

Because of the continuous operation in the underground, there's corruption from authorities and these operators will pay people to protect them, what is grease or protection money if they will rake a lot of profit.

As you can see, the person behind the online sabao is really rich. There are allegations, as you can see from the news, that there are 24 people missing because of this. Running it underground is really easy for them. They have the money and the power because the owners of this are politicians and powerful people. But still, they shouldnt be very known to others that they are running this again. You know it will be stopped later, but still they can continue it. So far from now, I haven't seen any operation from them. I think they will just cool it off right now.

[stadus]

This kind of game only makes the rich(operator) richer, while the poor (gamblers) poorer.

Nothing to oppose but the reality that we will continue to see while this kind of business continues to operate, even the online ban has been implemented, the operation from the actual cockfight still kicking. Many of those who got addicted will find ways to bet and try some luck if they will win or they will continue to lose their money.

Making those operators to continue collecting more money from people who love to use this venue for their gambling satisfactions..

In reality, there's a coliseum for these types of activities where they have the blessing of the government and permit to carry on, and there is no denying that there's also a problem on that but the government doesn't want to be too much involved as it's a tradition in the Philippines. Although these addicts will continue to gamble on the said venues if they wanted to but their movement is limited because they can't gamble on the same activity everyday because these coliseums are only open once or twice a week.

That is probably much better than the online Sabong which can be played anywhere 24/7 if the gambler want it.

[ethereumhunter]

In that case, there is a possibility that DEX will grow in the Philippines as the exchange will become increasingly crowded with bettors looking to convert their money to crypto and vice versa. This will also trigger an increase in local sellers which will help bettors.

If it's just about having access to betting in online cockfighting, that won't be the reason for using DEX to grow here in PH. And I doubt, really really doubt at 100% that the majority of bettors will use DEX or even a much simple interface in Binance. These bettors won't probably spend time doing some extra steps just to place a bet.

If that's the case, these people will just find another gambling type that will suit their convenience. No way I think the majority of online cockfights enthusiasts here will even try to use DEX or crypto-exchange just to place a bet. They will find an agent instead like the usual method used before during the first phase of e-sabong but since currently, temporarily halted, it's difficult to find a legit agent for now.

I think it's possible because as the number of crypto users increases, it will keep the government from putting pressure on big exchanges like Binance and others. We have already seen how exchanges require their users to KYC, which will later affect gamblers who use CEX to switch to DEX.

Gamblers will certainly be able to find other types of gambling that can make them comfortable. If they can find a type of gambling that uses crypto, they will try it after gambling online cockfighting. It is only a matter of time until they can try other types of gambling games and if they see that there are so many crypto-based gambling games, they will be more interested in trying them.

[traderethereum]

We know that even if cockfighting is made illegal there are going to be people that are going to want to take advantage of the situation and they will still organize those fights, but at least by making them illegal you will decrease the amount of animals becoming victims of that activity, and in the case you can find those that are organizing those events then you can put them in jail, so while it is clear that cockfighting will keep existing the number of those events will go down.

They will continue to play cockfighting if they have played often and the government will find it difficult to ban it because the organizer or people who gamble will hide the place.
But hopefully, the number of the events can go down so that gradually, there will be no more victims, either from animals or people who can become addicted.
But the use of crypto in online cockfighting can make crypto popular among gamblers because they can gamble without using their bank account.

I just found out yesterday from a friend that online esabong still exists with some illegal online platform. We can actually gamble if we like, but we should bear in mind that it's illegal and what we are doing is against the law, if we get scammed, we cannot complain to the authority as including us will be charge.

This means that people can still gamble using online platforms even if it is illegal.
But they shouldn't use it because it's illegal and to stay out of trouble.
They can still look for other types of gambling if online esabong is illegal because gambling is not only about cockfighting but also many gambling games.
If, in their country, gambling is illegal, they are better off avoiding it.

[Saisher]

I just watched on the local news that there is a possibility that e-sabong will be back in the mainstream, it will be strictly regulated, and the new government has a huge budget deficit and the President stated that he is not going to sell state properties to get more funds and will look for revenues elsewhere and e-sabong was recommended to be relaunch, the government has seen money generated from e-sabong and they still want the revenues coming from e-sabong instead of corrupt officials benefiting from grease money. 

[stadus]

I just watched on the local news that there is a possibility that e-sabong will be back in the mainstream, it will be strictly regulated, and the new government has a huge budget deficit and the President stated that he is not going to sell state properties to get more funds and will look for revenues elsewhere and e-sabong was recommended to be relaunch, the government has seen money generated from e-sabong and they still want the revenues coming from e-sabong instead of corrupt officials benefiting from grease money.  

If that's true, please do attach some source because I'm also curious about that matter. As far as I know, the newly elected president has been so vocal that he won't let the E-Sabong to resume their operations again because of the same reason of the outgoing president, the revenues that E-sabong is generating are good but the effect is just too much.
Also, the new government have said that they won't sell state properties to get more funds because there are taking some steps to gain other type of revenue where there's no need on selling these properties.

[Fredomago]

This kind of game only makes the rich(operator) richer, while the poor (gamblers) poorer.

Nothing to oppose but the reality that we will continue to see while this kind of business continues to operate, even the online ban has been implemented, the operation from the actual cockfight still kicking. Many of those who got addicted will find ways to bet and try some luck if they will win or they will continue to lose their money.

Making those operators to continue collecting more money from people who love to use this venue for their gambling satisfactions..

In reality, there's a coliseum for these types of activities where they have the blessing of the government and permit to carry on, and there is no denying that there's also a problem on that but the government doesn't want to be too much involved as it's a tradition in the Philippines. Although these addicts will continue to gamble on the said venues if they wanted to but their movement is limited because they can't gamble on the same activity everyday because these coliseums are only open once or twice a week.

That is probably much better than the online Sabong which can be played anywhere 24/7 if the gambler want it.

In the sense of limitation yes, but we don't know how deep the connections of those who are willing to facilitate even the ban was already been implemented, the gamblers who got addicted to this gambling will continue to find ways and illegal operators who are well-aware of those kinds of people will take advantage and will continue to ear huge amount of money even the risk is too high.

[coin-investor]

I just watched on the local news that there is a possibility that e-sabong will be back in the mainstream, it will be strictly regulated, and the new government has a huge budget deficit and the President stated that he is not going to sell state properties to get more funds and will look for revenues elsewhere and e-sabong was recommended to be relaunch, the government has seen money generated from e-sabong and they still want the revenues coming from e-sabong instead of corrupt officials benefiting from grease money.  

If that's true, please do attach some source because I'm also curious about that matter. As far as I know, the newly elected president has been so vocal that he won't let the E-Sabong to resume their operations again because of the same reason of the outgoing president, the revenues that E-sabong is generating are good but the effect is just too much.
Also, the new government have said that they won't sell state properties to get more funds because there are taking some steps to gain other type of revenue where there's no need on selling these properties.

I believe it will return, all the elements are here.

- Government needs funding
- there are lobbyists, these lobbyists include big-time gamblers who use to make billions of pesos
- if held underground there will be corruption, operators are willing to pay corrupt officials
- there is a huge market and demand
- Everything is in place there are bookies and online sites, and they all need a go signal.

[Distinctin]

We know that even if cockfighting is made illegal there are going to be people that are going to want to take advantage of the situation and they will still organize those fights, but at least by making them illegal you will decrease the amount of animals becoming victims of that activity, and in the case you can find those that are organizing those events then you can put them in jail, so while it is clear that cockfighting will keep existing the number of those events will go down.

They will continue to play cockfighting if they have played often and the government will find it difficult to ban it because the organizer or people who gamble will hide the place.
But hopefully, the number of the events can go down so that gradually, there will be no more victims, either from animals or people who can become addicted.
But the use of crypto in online cockfighting can make crypto popular among gamblers because they can gamble without using their bank account.

I just found out yesterday from a friend that online esabong still exists with some illegal online platform. We can actually gamble if we like, but we should bear in mind that it's illegal and what we are doing is against the law, if we get scammed, we cannot complain to the authority as including us will be charge.

We know gambling operators like E-sabong they will take every opportunity to run their operations even the underground, they know there is demand, they know there is a market, and they know they can make a lot of money from continuing operating their e-sabong, there is competition among operators and they will continue operating if there are other e-sabong operating.

Because of the continuous operation in the underground, there's corruption from authorities and these operators will pay people to protect them, what is grease or protection money if they will rake a lot of profit.

Most likely that's what they are doing as it's easy to detect an illegal gambling site, but with protection, these operators will have the confidence to still continue running their business, they are just an online Ponzi scheme that is when discovered by authorities, they will just change into a different domain and recruit people to play for them.

Things will be more tricky for the new government if how will they keep these things from growing. Finding these operators will be like a hide-n-seek avenue because these operators are willing to take some extra measures so that they can still operate even though there's a ban implemented. They are also not afraid because those who have power or authority are on their payroll, if there will be news, these operators will be given some early tip-off so that they will be safe.

[Lanatsa]

We know that even if cockfighting is made illegal there are going to be people that are going to want to take advantage of the situation and they will still organize those fights, but at least by making them illegal you will decrease the amount of animals becoming victims of that activity, and in the case you can find those that are organizing those events then you can put them in jail, so while it is clear that cockfighting will keep existing the number of those events will go down.

They will continue to play cockfighting if they have played often and the government will find it difficult to ban it because the organizer or people who gamble will hide the place.
But hopefully, the number of the events can go down so that gradually, there will be no more victims, either from animals or people who can become addicted.
But the use of crypto in online cockfighting can make crypto popular among gamblers because they can gamble without using their bank account.

I just found out yesterday from a friend that online esabong still exists with some illegal online platform. We can actually gamble if we like, but we should bear in mind that it's illegal and what we are doing is against the law, if we get scammed, we cannot complain to the authority as including us will be charge.

Is that platform operating from Philippines where the online cockfighting is banned ?

If so, better ask him to report it so the authorities may take action to take it down. I hope people show some responsibility and avoid such platforms only to make some money.

There are people who are really in concern when it comes to these things where they do sent out some reports whenever they do see platforms or sites offering online betting despite of the ban and some won't really be tending to do so just because they are one of the bettors which it's understandable that they would really be making out bets and just let them be.

Cockfighting isn't totally banned but only to those online bets which particularly in mattering about tax evasion with these operators I presumpt.

[robelneo]

Cockfighting isn't totally banned but only to those online bets which particularly in mattering about tax evasion with these operators I presumpt.

No, it's not the tax evasion, the online cockfighting operators are more than willing to pay taxes and surcharges the government wants to charge them in fact they like the government to impose more taxes on them because it will make them legal and accepted and recognized by the government, this e-sabong could have been operating until now and for many more months or years if only for those missing people that witnesses are associating to e-sabong, the society cannot tolerate people going missing or getting killed.