PH banned online cockfighting - Worst gambling-related cases recorded!

[Boristhecat]

But the adoption of cryptocurrencies will make transactions with money even easier for children, right? But we do not oppose adoption because of this, but on the contrary, we are all waiting for it. All phenomena have both pluses and minuses, but we cannot constantly forbid something because the phenomenon is not ideal and has minuses. We need to look for other solutions to this problem.

Everything that is inhuman is banned but people find the way to have entreatment.
Guess what - in our country gambling is banned - but people have find bitcoin and last year there was a huge spike in the funds from the crypto owners.
So bans are there but people know how to break laws as well.

Exactly. Prohibitions only lead to new ways to circumvent them and in some ways draw people into still more illegal areas. I think that in cases where we are talking about a crime without a victim (who suffered from the fact that I "illegally" bet on cockfights?), punishments/restrictions should be removed and not vice versa.

[iv4n]

If this Gambling totally affecting their peoples Lives and also the gambling is addicting and uncontrollable  then The president of that country is generous banning the  game, and besides this is not the only place where their government can earn revenue so best to stop it and find other areas than letting their people lose their Lives and lose their families and friends .

Well, cockfighting is there for centuries, you can't ban something like that! People will still do it, they will find a way, and of course, it will be 100% illegal! I believe that creates even more criminals!

Banning something should be the last measure! Regulations are always better, but regulations can't work in a deeply corrupt country! I live in one, so I guess I know those things!

Worst cases happen all around the world, but it's not something that "just happens"! The source of the problem lies in the early development stage of any human (and later), and many people start their life in disastrous conditions if we can say it like that! And that happens in all countries, even developed ones...

Tacitus:

“The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.”

[Distinctin]

I have this feeling that there is a possibility that online sabong will be back in the new administration there is a budget deficit as a huge part of the budget is going for payment of oustanding loanthe new presient may have won overwhelmingly but the business sector is not giving him a good score in investment priority from foreign investors, it will exhaust every means to generate revenues.

IMHO, the new administration will not let the online cockfighting to re-operate because the reason why it was banned is it affects the morality of the general public as citizens can play online cockfighting with ease and anywhere to the extent that their lives were affected one way or another, most of the people who use the online sabong platform don't have the discipline or lack the discipline that a good gambler must have.

Besides, if the new administration will tackle this issue this might lead to another debate/protest from the opposition and fuel their supporters to stage a rally that can cause chaos to the public so better to let this issue die its natural death.

Yes, this next new administration will also take the same steps of the outgoing administration and I think they will impose more strict rules towards these kinds of gambling. There is certainly a good reason why the current administration choses to ban the E-Sabong despite getting good revenues from it because in-exchange for that huge revenues is the life of the citizens as yes they are that freely to do gambling anywhere and anytime hassle free.

[carlfebz2]

~Snip~

If you are a parent or guardian who doesnt really monitor your kids often or doesnt have a good track on what they've been doing or what they've been involved into then having these situations could really happen.

I agree that new generation kids are way too intelligent in terms of new technology that we do have today which they do easily adapt and learn and we know that some service is already or can
be available online which would really be that easy to be accessed.Its on one of the government duties and responsibilities on protecting their citizens which is understandable.

parental supervision, early childhood moral education and honesty that must be instilled in children will be very significant from one house to another, policies, attention and supervision are starting to fade for children since parents may be familiar with the internet and focus on what they are interested in. they forget that the next generation (their children) are free to roam around their internet world, maybe with a little VPN and social media interaction and this money will make it easier for children to access important data or buy other people's data. for the sake of curiosity and He's curious. In various countries, there may be pros and cons, especially if you haven't arrived yet. But is it possible in your country to access cockfighting gambling like this, my friend?

I did make out some PH online sabong website.

https://talpakan.ph/
https://www.sabongonlinegame.com/
http://www.sabong.net/

I could access the sites.

[Johnyz]

But the adoption of cryptocurrencies will make transactions with money even easier for children, right? But we do not oppose adoption because of this, but on the contrary, we are all waiting for it. All phenomena have both pluses and minuses, but we cannot constantly forbid something because the phenomenon is not ideal and has minuses. We need to look for other solutions to this problem.

Everything that is inhuman is banned but people find the way to have entreatment.
Guess what - in our country gambling is banned - but people have find bitcoin and last year there was a huge spike in the funds from the crypto owners.
So bans are there but people know how to break laws as well.

Exactly. Prohibitions only lead to new ways to circumvent them and in some ways draw people into still more illegal areas. I think that in cases where we are talking about a crime without a victim (who suffered from the fact that I "illegally" bet on cockfights?), punishments/restrictions should be removed and not vice versa.

If the government is really strict on implementing their laws, people will have no choice but to follow it just like in some countries, if the government bans gambling no one will attempt to gamble on that country because for sure they will face the highest consequences if they violate it. Cockfighting can’t totally ban in the Philippines since it is being managed by rich people and we know their connections to the government, I wonder what will be the stand of the new administration on online cockfighting.

[btc_angela]

https://talpakan.ph/
https://www.sabongonlinegame.com/
http://www.sabong.net/

I could access the sites.

I can access the first two sets, although the second site is not loading those images. The 3rd one is inaccessible at my end.

Perhaps the government might want to look at this sites and shut it down if they are really very keen on shutting the whole system down. Otherwise, it will just continue and make lives are still going to be ruined by this online games. Hopefully, the incoming President of the Philippines will really shut it down for good.

[Shamm]

But the adoption of cryptocurrencies will make transactions with money even easier for children, right? But we do not oppose adoption because of this, but on the contrary, we are all waiting for it. All phenomena have both pluses and minuses, but we cannot constantly forbid something because the phenomenon is not ideal and has minuses. We need to look for other solutions to this problem.

Everything that is inhuman is banned but people find the way to have entreatment.
Guess what - in our country gambling is banned - but people have find bitcoin and last year there was a huge spike in the funds from the crypto owners.
So bans are there but people know how to break laws as well.

Exactly. Prohibitions only lead to new ways to circumvent them and in some ways draw people into still more illegal areas. I think that in cases where we are talking about a crime without a victim (who suffered from the fact that I "illegally" bet on cockfights?), punishments/restrictions should be removed and not vice versa.

If the government is really strict on implementing their laws, people will have no choice but to follow it just like in some countries, if the government bans gambling no one will attempt to gamble on that country because for sure they will face the highest consequences if they violate it. Cockfighting can’t totally ban in the Philippines since it is being managed by rich people and we know their connections to the government, I wonder what will be the stand of the new administration on online cockfighting.

These are the problem of Filipinos when the government implemented a law the Filipinos in the community they are not immediately follow because of those politicians or in high position that disobeying their own rules. And about this cock fighting for sure it won't be totally gone because of the hard-headed countrymen that can not control their self and play cock fighting in a secret/hiden place.

[Mahanton]

https://talpakan.ph/
https://www.sabongonlinegame.com/
http://www.sabong.net/

I could access the sites.

I can access the first two sets, although the second site is not loading those images. The 3rd one is inaccessible at my end.

Perhaps the government might want to look at this sites and shut it down if they are really very keen on shutting the whole system down. Otherwise, it will just continue and make lives are still going to be ruined by this online games. Hopefully, the incoming President of the Philippines will really shut it down for good.

3rd link is down already, is this the effect of such ban? or simply its just been closed intentionally? If they are on a new government then revoking or revising such laws or regulation might really be changing up.
Or they would really be continuing on what the past or former president had decided in regarding with this online betting of cockfighting.If it does really came to a reason on becoming too rampant
and affecting the way of living or situation of lots of its citizens then it is really just right for it to be stopped.

[blockman]

I did make out some PH online sabong website.

https://talpakan.ph/
https://www.sabongonlinegame.com/
http://www.sabong.net/

I could access the sites.

I also saw one from a post of my friend that's still an agent for this. These are considered illegal now and in my place, there are really those physical betting places for online cockfighting.
But I haven't checked if they're closed just after the announcement of its ban. Maybe later by the weekend, I'll get to see them since I'll be passing by on those areas.

[carlfebz2]

I did make out some PH online sabong website.

https://talpakan.ph/
https://www.sabongonlinegame.com/
http://www.sabong.net/

I could access the sites.

I also saw one from a post of my friend that's still an agent for this. These are considered illegal now and in my place, there are really those physical betting places for online cockfighting.
But I haven't checked if they're closed just after the announcement of its ban. Maybe later by the weekend, I'll get to see them since I'll be passing by on those areas.

Basing on said decision, it wasnt been finalized yet

Palace: No official order yet closing e-sabong; Pagcor to find new revenue source
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1592301/fwd-palace-no-official-order-yet-on-e-sabong-closure-pagcor-to-find-new-revenue-source

So they are still minding about the revenue that it could possibly give thats why i do still doubtful that there would be some banning for this.

[chaser15]

These are considered illegal now and in my place, there are really those physical betting places for online cockfighting.

Physical bets on the cockpit arena itself are legal and 100% operational. It's safe to bet there.

Only the online "sabong" is halted but cannot be considered illegal for now as it was just suspended until further notice.

If you see online sabong still streamed, then it was running under the shadows and not held in the official arena. But I'm sure it's just a small market like the online color games, online bingo, online "perya" games, etc.

[Reatim]

If this Gambling totally affecting their peoples Lives and also the gambling is addicting and uncontrollable  then The president of that country is generous banning the  game, and besides this is not the only place where their government can earn revenue so best to stop it and find other areas than letting their people lose their Lives and lose their families and friends .

Well, cockfighting is there for centuries, you can't ban something like that! People will still do it, they will find a way, and of course, it will be 100% illegal! I believe that creates even more criminals!

Actually we are talking about ONLINE COCKFIGHTING here mate , and this is not something that has been in the field for long time , this has been operated by syndicates  and some Big time gambler in the Philippines so Yes this is Banable.

But the Real Cockfighting ? i am not arguing about that because like what you said? it has been in circulation for centuries and I myself grow with this gambling surrounding me, But the Online area is what i tend to disagree .

[Peanutswar]

The issue starts on the event handle by the higher person in the world of PH sabong which is some of the sabogero/Gambler are getting missing that's why the president makes a ban with the use of this game its just a casual game before that people keep enjoying but recently they see that its like an easy money and does not paying tax at all of the games and the people of the PH are getting addicted that causes their assets and money losses i guess President Duterte makes this a good move to prevent people wasting too much not productive in this game.

[doomloop]

The negative effects of online cockfighting is way worse than the positive effects that it can give to the country.
TBH, I just don't know why they allowed it in our country. Tax? Revenue? You can get that in other ways but the morale and the effects of it to the people especially for those who lose all already are irreversible.

If you're from PH, you might seen some news from some bettors regarding what happened to them after losing to E-sabong. We've also saw around 30+ people that are missing just because of cockfighting. Some said that they stole money from other people. Some don't have families anymore because of it. Some feel sorry for themselves and regret what they did etc. As I'm watching these news and what is happening to these people, the more I agree with what our President did.

Now the Election is over and in a few weeks we have a new president. I just hope that this will remain the same and will not re-open online cockfighting to the public.

It can be a combination of tax and revenue but other than that, cock fighting is a classic game on this country plus the world now is slowly turning to online, that is why online cock fighting became a hit but its only sad that its career have now ended, it didn't last for too long but with the newly elected president, there might be a chance that it will be allowed again. That should give him an early boost.

Morale and effects of gambling to the people can change but of course if that person is willing to change but with the horrible news that are happening on this country and the ban that happened, many gamblers will realize that it's risky to get involved in this game.

[rhomelmabini]

The issue starts on the event handle by the higher person in the world of PH sabong which is some of the sabogero/Gambler are getting missing that's why the president makes a ban with the use of this game its just a casual game before that people keep enjoying but recently they see that its like an easy money and does not paying tax at all of the games and the people of the PH are getting addicted that causes their assets and money losses i guess President Duterte makes this a good move to prevent people wasting too much not productive in this game.

That concerns a lot to the President I'd say since this is just the incident that happen where lot of missing person was gone in just a day then just found dead with lots of gunshots on their bodies. I think it was a good call from the President to do his duty for his people and besides if the virus is contained a lot of people will enjoy the traditional cockfighting they always love to attend if the government prioritize the containment. Is just around the corner I guess.

[btc78]

This Gambling should have been stopped long ago and not just now because there are already abused in this game and there are so much individuals and families that has now having a broken life.
not to mentioned those missing people because of the involvement in this operation in which being said that already killed by this time.
The Philippine president did it better and hope that the next administration(as the transition of the administration will happen next month) and the banning will stand forever.

Thats true. Many families got wrecked due to their addiction. I remember recently the case of a family wherein the mother sold her baby only 9 months old to pay her debts due to online cockfighting. Though she regret selling her baby after doing it and even ask for help to find the person who took her baby. Its just one of the bad effects of online cockfighting to the gamblers who cant control themselves. I also hope the next administration will continue to banned this game.

I did not watch that news but that is indeed a sad story for a gambler that can manage selling their Baby just to gamble?

And now I come to conclude that This banning is indeed what must be done here .

the president is great with His action here knowing that he is 1 month away from leaving His position as president of Philippines .

[ethereumhunter]

The issue starts on the event handle by the higher person in the world of PH sabong which is some of the sabogero/Gambler are getting missing that's why the president makes a ban with the use of this game its just a casual game before that people keep enjoying but recently they see that its like an easy money and does not paying tax at all of the games and the people of the PH are getting addicted that causes their assets and money losses i guess President Duterte makes this a good move to prevent people wasting too much not productive in this game.

That concerns a lot to the President I'd say since this is just the incident that happen where lot of missing person was gone in just a day then just found dead with lots of gunshots on their bodies. I think it was a good call from the President to do his duty for his people and besides if the virus is contained a lot of people will enjoy the traditional cockfighting they always love to attend if the government prioritize the containment. Is just around the corner I guess.

Well, we think of it as a precautionary measure taken by the President to prevent more people from getting addicted. Traditional cockfighting games can indeed easily get people addicted and waste too much money and these precautions are expected to help people to abandon traditional cockfighting. But don't forget that this traditional game of cockfighting can be played in many places so the President should really give instructions to his subordinates to find those places and arrest those who are still playing the game.

[Maslate]

The issue starts on the event handle by the higher person in the world of PH sabong which is some of the sabogero/Gambler are getting missing that's why the president makes a ban with the use of this game its just a casual game before that people keep enjoying but recently they see that its like an easy money and does not paying tax at all of the games and the people of the PH are getting addicted that causes their assets and money losses i guess President Duterte makes this a good move to prevent people wasting too much not productive in this game.

That concerns a lot to the President I'd say since this is just the incident that happen where lot of missing person was gone in just a day then just found dead with lots of gunshots on their bodies. I think it was a good call from the President to do his duty for his people and besides if the virus is contained a lot of people will enjoy the traditional cockfighting they always love to attend if the government prioritize the containment. Is just around the corner I guess.

Well, we think of it as a precautionary measure taken by the President to prevent more people from getting addicted. Traditional cockfighting games can indeed easily get people addicted and waste too much money and these precautions are expected to help people to abandon traditional cockfighting. But don't forget that this traditional game of cockfighting can be played in many places so the President should really give instructions to his subordinates to find those places and arrest those who are still playing the game.

Cock fighting is not illegal in the Philippines as long as it's done in a license venue, but we should not generalize the cock fighting as only the online cock fighting was stopped, however, under the new presidency, maybe it's possible for them to operate again.

[ChiBitCTy]

Fights between animals should be prohibited because they are bloody, unethical and harmful.
I understand that they bring income to the State but in the end it is an industry that takes resources without producing anything, at most simple entertainment.
In this case there Is also an issue related gambling addiction... Well It was a good choice but I think a better information should always be provided because this time Is with this game the next time It could be another one

100% I am so fucking sick of people gambling on animals of any kind whether it’s dog racing or horse racing but especially even more sickening and cruel types such a cock fighting and dog fighting. What in the world is wrong with your government?! Some sort of savages, Jesus Christ. The whole world has a major issue when it comes to gambling on animal sports but especially the eastern world , and in particular Asia. Asia seems to be a century behind the rest of the world in terms of what is ethical and what’s not. I would love to give anyone who supports this bullshit a punch right fucking face. This angers me to no end!!!!

[Fredomago]

These are considered illegal now and in my place, there are really those physical betting places for online cockfighting.

Physical bets on the cockpit arena itself are legal and 100% operational. It's safe to bet there.

Only the online "sabong" is halted but cannot be considered illegal for now as it was just suspended until further notice.

If you see online sabong still streamed, then it was running under the shadows and not held in the official arena. But I'm sure it's just a small market like the online color games, online bingo, online "perya" games, etc.

Operators are still there and willing to gamble with the risk, knowing that many people will continue to patronize the business. In their part, since the permits are suspended, they are facilitating without any implemented taxes. It's worth the risk if there's a big money involve, like the examples that you mentioned, those online perya games are considered illegal but people continue to play. Though not in the mainstream anymore if dealing with online Sabong.

There are gamblers and bankers who continue to regulate. Even the suspension from the government has already been announced.

They are willing to cater to those who are also willing to gamble and risk their money.