Wheat War I is going to be World War III

[bestcoins1]

There are femine in one part of the world and there is flood in the other part of the world
There are two extrems and stilll we are throwing bombs to fight with the our country men.

In which country do you live that you still have to throw bombs to fight with the state? Because if the war continues, there will never be an increase in the price of cryptocurrency and it will be difficult for changes to occur in the market because worsening world conditions can also greatly affect the market. So make peace with the state and don't fight just to defend your ego or whatever is still possible to be resolved in a good way.

[pooya87]

Compared to the situation the world experienced few months back, right now it seems like there is good production of wheat to fulfill the present needs. Due to war it was much discussed about the food shortage to happen around the world. Somehow things have got better with time. Maybe the production from Russia and Ukraine reaching the global market will lower the price that have reached its peak.

I somewhat agree with you that the situation has gotten slightly better but not enough to eliminate our concerns. Keep in mind that some issues will take time to show their ugly heads. For example the fertilizer shortage I mentioned in OP will start showing its effects mostly during spring as farmers start having shorter yield.
Same with food shortage, almost all countries have strategic storages which would again take time to run out. Granted they've all been trying to fill it but I haven't seen major success yet.

[Obito]

The global demand for wheat is going to increase steeply in the long-term, because the population growth is very high in major wheat importing countries such as Egypt, Algeria, Bangladesh, Nigeria and Morocco. On the other hand, apart from Russia and Ukraine, the wheat yield is down in most of the exporting countries due to drought and other reasons. In terms of price movements, wheat is very similar to crude oil. Two years ago, wheat was trading at <$200 per ton. Now it is trading at almost 2x that amount.

Some Asian countries wouldn't be affected too much by it since rice is still available although they do have bread, I don't think that they're going to be hit big. Maybe this wheat shortage should be a wake up call for many countries to find alternative or maximize growing their own wheat because a collapse in global supply chain is disastrous.

[Oasisman]

The global demand for wheat is going to increase steeply in the long-term, because the population growth is very high in major wheat importing countries such as Egypt, Algeria, Bangladesh, Nigeria and Morocco. On the other hand, apart from Russia and Ukraine, the wheat yield is down in most of the exporting countries due to drought and other reasons. In terms of price movements, wheat is very similar to crude oil. Two years ago, wheat was trading at <$200 per ton. Now it is trading at almost 2x that amount.

Some Asian countries wouldn't be affected too much by it since rice is still available although they do have bread, I don't think that they're going to be hit big. Maybe this wheat shortage should be a wake up call for many countries to find alternative or maximize growing their own wheat because a collapse in global supply chain is disastrous.

Well, obviously Asia have like 90% of Rice production globally. So that's not gonna be a problem. The wheat shortage will make people realize that we should be paying more for the farmers and producers rather than the distributors. Hoarding became rampant these days especially after the pandemic. These shortage of foods will also makes us realize that we should not always focus on technological advancements but also agriculturally.
Governments should consider cultivating more lands to grow crops to feed not only their country but globally to increase it's GDP by exporting their goods.

[Majestic-milf]

The global food situation is worsening every second and in a month or two could lead to mass unrest followed by regimes suppressing the violence and eventually a wider war between countries stealing each other's food supplies to ease their domestic unrest, something similar but worse than what we saw during the first months of pandemic where Europeans countries were stealing from each other to ease their own crisis.

Let's take a quick look at a series of events:
1. Russia and Ukraine are two big producers, Russia invades and production is ceased in Ukraine.
2. Russia is sanctioned to put economic pressure on them so their exports to 99% of the world is completely stopped
3. Other producers like India follow this trend and stop their exports
4. Price of food soars as scarcity is now a serious threat
5. Other countries are embracing for the crisis by trying desperately to increase their own production but fertilizer exports are also ceased so the domestic production has also decreased significantly in most countries.
6. China is mass purchasing any food (wheat, etc.) that are found in the world and is also pre-purchasing future production (as much as anybody would sell them) at high prices.
7. France is already telling Ukraine to give up defending so that maybe they can avert food crisis themselves!

The real question is how would each country handle this crisis. And at what scale is the conflicts going to break?

In West Asia we are producing most of our needs already but the pressure is still felt here. The biggest problem we are facing is the neighbors. The borders are already being tightened as we speak to handle immigration and prevent illegal exports that are basically stealing food!

Correct me if I'm wrong but Europe seems to be highly dependent on imports when it comes to basic food (wheat, oil, live-stock feed, etc.) and others and the supply has decreased while the prices are soaring.
US doesn't seem to be doing well either as they are currently trying to rob Ukraine and transfer all their wheat supply to reduce the crisis US itself is facing through the western border while Russia is still busy in the east and south and the world isn't looking.

This is starting to feel like WWII already when the Allies invaded India for example and how Churchil stole their food and starved more than 3 million Indians to death. The difference however is that the option to invade East to survive their European War aka WWII is no longer there for the West, so my guess would be a lot of conflict between different countries in Europe if the food crisis worsens, NATO falling apart and eventual mass migration towards East.

 The US can comfortably produce these products that they are pilfering from the Ukrainians and I'm tempted to assume it's because of this act of theirs that they have decided to covertly support with arms.

 The question I can't quite wrap my head on is why take from another country who are in a war and would use these as a means to strengthen themselves while in a fraught situation? Is it that by buying from them, you are helping financially or you are just not okay with taking from your own?

[blue_hurricanger]

Forget about wheat. The common food stamp for poor people, rice is under threat as two countries known for at top 5 rice export in volume, Vietnam #2 and Thailand #3 want to cooperate on raising the price of rice. With Pakistan #4 in rice export (in terms of volume) under heavy floods, loss of rice crops and even asking for food aid, the situation looks grim for countries that have huge imports of rice to meet the food need of their citizens.

[swogerino]

"The greatest politician in the world, the greatest genius, with his second army of the world," began to squeal and demand negotiations with Ukraine. Through his bedside dog Peskov, he conveyed the following: Putin is ready to negotiate with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky on how the "special operation" will be terminated and the observance not of conditions, but of Russia's interests.

...what a pitiful sight! ))

So finally even he the "the greatest politician in the world" is starting to realize that he lost near 1/3 of his combat force so far in the war against Ukraine and things are looking even worse for him now that a heavy counteroffensive is taking place in the occupied territory of Kherson.

This if deployed successfully then the Ukrainian forces will have also the power to liberate Crimea as there are no routes in which more Russian soldiers can come to the aid of the existing ones trapped in Donetsk.Apparently Putin is not a great general and he screw it up really big with this war,Russia is suffering heavy losses both in men power and economically the most,no one is happy there in Russia yet the people still support Putin and I don't understand this.

As for the wheat it will be no problem,they have both agreed in a humanitarian corridor which is working and so far a lot of ships have left there to their destinations untroubled.

[lucates]

The global demand for wheat is going to increase steeply in the long-term, because the population growth is very high in major wheat importing countries such as Egypt, Algeria, Bangladesh, Nigeria and Morocco. On the other hand, apart from Russia and Ukraine, the wheat yield is down in most of the exporting countries due to drought and other reasons. In terms of price movements, wheat is very similar to crude oil. Two years ago, wheat was trading at <$200 per ton. Now it is trading at almost 2x that amount.

Compared to the situation the world experienced few months back, right now it seems like there is good production of wheat to fulfill the present needs. Due to war it was much discussed about the food shortage to happen around the world. Somehow things have got better with time. Maybe the production from Russia and Ukraine reaching the global market will lower the price that have reached its peak.

Before the war began, Russia and Ukraine accounted for 24 percent of global wheat exports together. Ukraine alone was the biggest wheat exporter to at least 10 countries. Now all of them are facing shortages. More than 22 million tons of grains are trapped inside Ukraine. They're rotting in warehouses as people go hungry. A global report and food crisis estimates that at least 180 million people in more than 41 countries will face food crisis this year due to the war. Now Russia, Ukraine and Turkey have signed the grain export deal, leading to a major breakthrough.

[Sithara007]

The recent news says that there is such a heavy flooding in Pakistan and approx 33 million people are are displaced.
Which is 6 times more people than those internally displaced in Ukraine from war, that's approximately the population of Canada - this much people are going through food crisis.

Both the scenarios can't be compared. Flooding will be over in a week or two, and for most part Pakistan is a very arid country. What happened there is due to their own mismanagement. Now all the precious runoff will just end up in the sea, rather than being used to irrigate the fields. And in a few months everyone will be complaining about drought. On the other hand, the situation in Ukraine is going on for more than 6 months now. And it is unlikely to end anytime soon. And Ukraine is an European country, which will obviously bring more attention from the Western world.

[kapalmabur]

Before the war began, Russia and Ukraine accounted for 24 percent of global wheat exports together. Ukraine alone was the biggest wheat exporter to at least 10 countries. Now all of them are facing shortages. More than 22 million tons of grains are trapped inside Ukraine. They're rotting in warehouses as people go hungry. A global report and food crisis estimates that at least 180 million people in more than 41 countries will face food crisis this year due to the war. Now Russia, Ukraine and Turkey have signed the grain export deal, leading to a major breakthrough.

The recent news says that there is such a heavy flooding in Pakistan and approx 33 million people are are displaced.
Which is 6 times more people than those internally displaced in Ukraine from war, that's approximately the population of Canada - this much people are going through food crisis.

I think the food crisis is on the rise and this is becoming a serious global problem,
commodity and food prices also increased due to inflation,
If conditions are still like this, it is not impossible that more people will experience a food crisis

[coupable]

The recent news says that there is such a heavy flooding in Pakistan and approx 33 million people are are displaced.
Which is 6 times more people than those internally displaced in Ukraine from war, that's approximately the population of Canada - this much people are going through food crisis.

Both the scenarios can't be compared. Flooding will be over in a week or two, and for most part Pakistan is a very arid country. What happened there is due to their own mismanagement. Now all the precious runoff will just end up in the sea, rather than being used to irrigate the fields. And in a few months everyone will be complaining about drought. On the other hand, the situation in Ukraine is going on for more than 6 months now. And it is unlikely to end anytime soon. And Ukraine is an European country, which will obviously bring more attention from the Western world.

According to meteorological centers, the flood wave could continue in other regions of the world during the winter. If the world is able to cope with the economic changes caused by the Ukrainian crisis, it cannot even predict the extent of the devastation that we will face due to urgent climate changes.
The Ukrainian crisis will deepen the crisis for countries hostile to Russia. The rest of the world's countries that are neutral (relatively, of course) may have better chances of overcoming part of the crisis, but in any case they cannot overcome the inflation crisis, which has become a global pandemic.

[Sithara007]

According to meteorological centers, the flood wave could continue in other regions of the world during the winter. If the world is able to cope with the economic changes caused by the Ukrainian crisis, it cannot even predict the extent of the devastation that we will face due to urgent climate changes.
The Ukrainian crisis will deepen the crisis for countries hostile to Russia. The rest of the world's countries that are neutral (relatively, of course) may have better chances of overcoming part of the crisis, but in any case they cannot overcome the inflation crisis, which has become a global pandemic.

I am residing in a country that has taken a neutral stance in the conflict and I can say that we are getting screwed royally. Wheat and sunflower oil prices have gone through the roof. Gasoline and CNG has become extremely expensive. In general, the inflation now stands at 7-8% per year, compared to 4% per year which we had until 2020. So it is not like countries that have taken a neutral stance on Russia are benefitting in any way. Some of the private companies (such as Reliance) are making a limited amount of profit by importing Russian crude. But compared to the overall scenario, this is insignificant.

[pooya87]

I started this topic 4 months ago and warned about the food crisis that is going to be caused by fertilizer crisis. The "European Fertilizer Producers" just figure it out recently! Their representative announced that the fertilizer industry is already in a full-fledged crisis!
"As a result, over 70% of European production capacity has been curtailed. If the situation prevails, we fear that remaining producers could also be affected."

Interestingly enough they blame the over 1000% increase in gas price, but that is only part of the reason. The major imports of components they used to produce the fertilizers are no longer being sold to them as I said earlier which is why they can not produce enough fertilizers anymore.
Lithuanian fertilizer company, Achema AB has already said as much when they announced they will shut down soon.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-26/europe-s-fertilizer-crisis-deepens-with-70-of-capacity-hit
https://www.newsweek.com/europes-energy-crisis-turning-food-crisis-opinion-1740228

[DrBeer]

According to meteorological centers, the flood wave could continue in other regions of the world during the winter. If the world is able to cope with the economic changes caused by the Ukrainian crisis, it cannot even predict the extent of the devastation that we will face due to urgent climate changes.
The Ukrainian crisis will deepen the crisis for countries hostile to Russia. The rest of the world's countries that are neutral (relatively, of course) may have better chances of overcoming part of the crisis, but in any case they cannot overcome the inflation crisis, which has become a global pandemic.

I am residing in a country that has taken a neutral stance in the conflict and I can say that we are getting screwed royally. Wheat and sunflower oil prices have gone through the roof. Gasoline and CNG has become extremely expensive. In general, the inflation now stands at 7-8% per year, compared to 4% per year which we had until 2020. So it is not like countries that have taken a neutral stance on Russia are benefitting in any way. Some of the private companies (such as Reliance) are making a limited amount of profit by importing Russian crude. But compared to the overall scenario, this is insignificant.

So what do you want if you decide to "quietly sit in the corner" when a crime occurs, instead of reining in the country of a terrorist? You are reaping the fruits of your own "passivity", as it should be! But that's not even the problem! Remember - when you have global problems, many will also, in relation to you, choose a "neutral position" ... Fate.. Karma ... cool things, believe me

[electronicash]

I started this topic 4 months ago and warned about the food crisis that is going to be caused by fertilizer crisis. The "European Fertilizer Producers" just figure it out recently! Their representative announced that the fertilizer industry is already in a full-fledged crisis!
"As a result, over 70% of European production capacity has been curtailed. If the situation prevails, we fear that remaining producers could also be affected."

Interestingly enough they blame the over 1000% increase in gas price, but that is only part of the reason. The major imports of components they used to produce the fertilizers are no longer being sold to them as I said earlier which is why they can not produce enough fertilizers anymore.
Lithuanian fertilizer company, Achema AB has already said as much when they announced they will shut down soon.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-26/europe-s-fertilizer-crisis-deepens-with-70-of-capacity-hit
https://www.newsweek.com/europes-energy-crisis-turning-food-crisis-opinion-1740228

i also dont understand why purposely ban fertilizers from the beginning, it started a chain reaction up to starve countless countries. Sri lanka as i have watched a documentary about it, their president ban fertilizers because they alooking forward to organic planting. the result was that farmers not planting crops instead.

old fertilizers still works like the guano but farmers today are not very familair with it.
hunger clouds judgement of people, which they do bad stuff like robbing qnd looting.

[be.open]

I started this topic 4 months ago and warned about the food crisis that is going to be caused by fertilizer crisis. The "European Fertilizer Producers" just figure it out recently! Their representative announced that the fertilizer industry is already in a full-fledged crisis!
"As a result, over 70% of European production capacity has been curtailed. If the situation prevails, we fear that remaining producers could also be affected."

Interestingly enough they blame the over 1000% increase in gas price, but that is only part of the reason. The major imports of components they used to produce the fertilizers are no longer being sold to them as I said earlier which is why they can not produce enough fertilizers anymore.
Lithuanian fertilizer company, Achema AB has already said as much when they announced they will shut down soon.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-26/europe-s-fertilizer-crisis-deepens-with-70-of-capacity-hit
https://www.newsweek.com/europes-energy-crisis-turning-food-crisis-opinion-1740228

In the chemical fertilizer industry, natural gas is both a source of energy and a raw material. Fertilizers are made from gas using gas. Therefore, next year, European farmers will be forced to switch to organic farming.

The Lithuanian fertilizer plant that you are talking about consumed 50% of the gas in Lithuania before its shutdown.

[pooya87]

i also dont understand why purposely ban fertilizers from the beginning, it started a chain reaction up to starve countless countries.
old fertilizers still works like the guano but farmers today are not very familair with it.

What I've found with my little research is that the problem is about yield.

With these fertilizers (rich with nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium) they can keep reusing the same soil and harvest a lot and multiple times a year. With no fertilizer or with traditional ones the yield significantly decreases and you can't harvest as many times. The soil simply doesn't have what the crop needs to grow.
Not to mention that you can't produce nearly as much traditional fertilizers like guano!

So for example if a wheat farmer was producing 1 ton of wheat before, without these fertilizers they can produce only 20-30% of that.

[$anounimus$]

The global food situation is worsening every second and in a month or two could lead to mass unrest followed by regimes suppressing the violence and eventually a wider war between countries stealing each other's food supplies to ease their domestic unrest, something similar but worse than what we saw during the first months of pandemic where Europeans countries were stealing from each other to ease their own crisis.

The real question is how would each country handle this crisis. And at what scale is the conflicts going to break?

If there is one development in the world that could revolutionize global politics, it is the rise of wheat as a global strategic asset. Yes, The world is headed for a food crisis, and it will continue for a long time.

In my opinion, Government and society together find a way to use less wheat and be able to grow it without invasive chemicals so that we will be able to build harmony in this world. Because wheat is the basis of many products around the world,

Let's hope we can all put our differences aside and get along soon.

[Sithara007]

What I've found with my little research is that the problem is about yield.

With these fertilizers (rich with nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium) they can keep reusing the same soil and harvest a lot and multiple times a year. With no fertilizer or with traditional ones the yield significantly decreases and you can't harvest as many times. The soil simply doesn't have what the crop needs to grow.
Not to mention that you can't produce nearly as much traditional fertilizers like guano!

So for example if a wheat farmer was producing 1 ton of wheat before, without these fertilizers they can produce only 20-30% of that.

Not sure about the figure of 20%-30%, but I agree that the yields will be down by a lot without chemical fertilizers. In Sri Lanka they banned chemical fertilizer and the agricultural sector got completely destroyed as a result. Here in India, there is a shortage of fertilizer (both Ammonia based and Potash based), because of the war in Ukraine. Here the government procures the supply and then gives them to farmers free of charge. But they are unable to secure enough supplies at reasonable rates and as a result we are having an acute shortage.

[be.open]

What I've found with my little research is that the problem is about yield.

With these fertilizers (rich with nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium) they can keep reusing the same soil and harvest a lot and multiple times a year. With no fertilizer or with traditional ones the yield significantly decreases and you can't harvest as many times. The soil simply doesn't have what the crop needs to grow.
Not to mention that you can't produce nearly as much traditional fertilizers like guano!

So for example if a wheat farmer was producing 1 ton of wheat before, without these fertilizers they can produce only 20-30% of that.

Not sure about the figure of 20%-30%, but I agree that the yields will be down by a lot without chemical fertilizers. In Sri Lanka they banned chemical fertilizer and the agricultural sector got completely destroyed as a result. Here in India, there is a shortage of fertilizer (both Ammonia based and Potash based), because of the war in Ukraine. Here the government procures the supply and then gives them to farmers free of charge. But they are unable to secure enough supplies at reasonable rates and as a result we are having an acute shortage.

Meanwhile, in Russia there is simply nowhere to store grain, fertilizers and ammonia (judging by Putin's statements yesterday on the food problem).
1. Russia will supply 30 million tons of grain to needy countries by the end of the year.
2. Russia is ready to donate potash fertilizers to developing countries.
3. Russia is ready to supply ammonia in the amount of two million tons to countries in need.