Ban Appeal For naim027. (SOLVED)

[Dic3L0v3r]

Additionally but more important, what are all plagiarized posts (~ 70 as I saw in OP) were made for what intention? To share news, to hit post quota, to get money from bounties or campaigns. If during that period, no financial-earning intention behind, I think it is somewhat acceptable. Of course, rule was broken but if no financial incentive behind, it's somewhat acceptable.

Thanks for your support. I want to correct it a bit. About 70 posts, not all of them are plagiarized. I wanted to say, From 2017 to October 2021, I made only 70 posts in 5 years, and not all of them were plagiarized. Back then I was not on any signature campaign. I received my first merit on October 16th, 2021. On the date of November 19th, I had only 60 Merits.

The Post Poker Player mentioned was made on March 30 2021 and I had 0 merits back then.

I cannot recall someone literally begging to have his account unbanned for such a long period of time, there is simply a desperation in his attempts to receive a reprieve and that is because he wants to start earning his signature campaign fee. That is his driving factor here and nothing else.

Now, that in itself is not bad thing because c.$400 a month is a lot of money in his country especially to make and that just from one account here. He put a lot of effort in building up his naim027 account for that specific purpose and now it is banned therefore it will hurt financially and in one sense it is understandable he would try every way possible to try to have it rescinded including by sending PMs in the hope of having some support in order to pressure moderators.

I think he should accept the ban and simply move on...

There was a history of being unbanned after two years. Don't act like you don't know anything. About another thing, let me quote myself

I can't stop laughing when I see people talking about my salary. I saw that this was discussed on another thread too and Rikafip also joined there.

Well, Some of you may know or not know that I work for a casino platform as a Support agent Cum Chat Moderator, and I am already getting about more than 6x from the average salary in Bangladesh. That's from my main Job. I also do Telegram Chat Moderation for a start-up platform and get a good amount from there. I have some GPU mining rigs which generate a good amount for me (Mining profitability lowered drastically now). I do gamble a lot in different casinos (You may notice me on the Blackjack leaderboard). That's not the income source but sometimes I get a good amount from gambling. I also do volunteer jobs for a charity organization. Taking care of an Old woman with my personal fund. @MahdiRakib Donated twice. Recently I opened a Lending service to boost up my work (It didn't help much). I feel a bit sad because @MahdiRakib knows a lot about me and I asked him to respond to this thread. But, Either he is too busy or doesn't want to get distrusted by someone who started removing everyone from the trust list if they say something positive about me. It's absurd to talk about my salary here since this is mainly for my unban appeal. Sorry if I am moving off-topic but I had to clear up some things.

One more thing, He was always on my Distrust List. If you want to check, Check Two month ago's data.

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[Poker Player]

I wrote my reasons above, clear enough.

I agree that the Mr.Right85 case sets a precedent. If from now on the forum is going to be much more lenient with plagiarism issues, they could make it public and thus give free rein to plagiarism much more than it is already done.

In the case of naim027, since you mention this:

I don't know about naim027 too clear but months ago I saw naim027's thread in Lending child board. As I know, since then, the user started to rank up well enough from Full Member or Senior Member (maybe from Full Member) to the Hero Member rank.

I take this opportunity to quote the last post of the thread. Someone commenting on his ban:

Good news, probably trying to farm easy green trust. I was very suspicious when he was only catering to high rep users.

Those of us who trusted him and no longer do, and those who never trusted him, see in this type of actions something premeditated that probably has more to do with what that comment says than with something altruistic.

[Dic3L0v3r]

Good news, probably trying to farm easy green trust. I was very suspicious when he was only catering to high rep users.

Those of us who trusted him and no longer do, and those who never trusted him, see in this type of actions something premeditated that probably has more to do with what that comment says than with something altruistic.

I am not sure what should I say now. Should I laugh or should I cry? Do you ever see that Lending Service accepts Applications below Full member rank? I don't think you have read the rules of my lending service thread. I don't think Any service wants to give loans to Jr. Member or a Member ranked member. If they do, I think it's too risky. I didn't want to take the risk after shasan and Little Mouse warned me.

Rank doesn't matter, but I don't expect applications from below Full Member rank.

PP, No matter whatever you say. But, it looks like a few of you guys are angry with me and trying to figure out every possible negative thing. Why so personal? Kudos to you guys.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Lastly, if we count for how recent plagiarism reports were handled very softly, naim027 should be unbanned or at least a second chance. I know Mr.Right85 even made many plagiarism to earn in Livecasino.io's campaign. Got acceptance from manager and started to plagiarize after that. No ban in any sort, so why naim027 were banned like this?

If we talk about the fact that today's ban rules are no longer relevant and do not work for the user, Mr.Right85, then let's officially declare this.

So far, more than one topic has been created with rules on plagiarism, and so far we see that there are no solutions. That is, do the rules work? Did I understand correctly?

Then let's go back in time and ask, those users who were banned in the past, and received privileges from the moderators for unlocking their account, what did they pay?

I was that user. Many thanks to the moderators for their attention and kindness.

I had a two-month ban on posting on the forum, and after a year-long ban on wearing and participating in signature companies.

Now, given that many here agree that naim027 is of value to them on the forum, maybe it's worth being fair?

Isn't it a fair move to ban participation in the company's signature? Deadlines are set by the moderators, but again, it should not be less than a year, right?

However, as suchmoon said, you should not turn your appeal into a "dear diary"

You are allowed to post only about your ban appeal. Turning this thread into "dear diary" isn't helping your case, not that it had any chance to begin with.

But this guy is not endowed with modesty and patience.
Unfortunately. He invites the topic through the PM. Is it like waiting patiently? I see it as a requirement.

[Rikafip]

It should be two cases but I am keen on the first case.

• hacker1001101001
• shasan

Ah yes thank you, that 2nd case I heard about was @hacker1001101001, just couldn't remember his name as I don't see him around anymore.

There was a history of being unbanned after two years.

Its true that RegulusHr got unbanned after 2 years, but in that period he wrote only 6 posts and I don't think that he went around PM people asking for support. The more active you are, the more desperate you will appear.

I think he should accept the ban and simply move on...

If he is here only for the money, "moving on" would mean creating the new account and starting from the scratch which I think many of those permanently banned do, and that's one of the reason why I would like to see signature ban being used more. It of course doesn't mean that people would stop making alt accounts after getting banned, but I do think that some would rather continue being active on the main account.

[Little Mouse]

However, as suchmoon said, you should not turn your appeal into a "dear diary"

True indeed. This thread should be only about discussion on the ban/unban and reason for removing the ban. It’s surprising that how some people are bringing how much Naim would earn in Bangladesh and how much in the forum and a comparison. People should know the average income of a country doesn’t mean everybody earns that amount only. Also, there are some more stupid discussion going on.
I can't remember if I have posted in this thread more than 1 time before. As I said, he was a great contributor in our local thread. Some of you may know how low quality thread it was back in the day but now it was getting some good discussion every now and then. Losing a member like Naim from our local discussion would be a great loss, at least I consider in that way.
Good luck Naim.

[LoyceV]

Funny how a supposedly banned user is still gaming the system:

https://loyce.club/trust/2022-07-23_Sat_05.08h/131361.html

Trust list for: Timelord2067 (Trust: +13 / =10 / -0) (DT1 (-7) 913 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2022-07-23_Sat_05.08h)
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~Timelord2067's judgement is Distrusted by:
45. NEW naim027 Banned! (Trust: neutral) (517 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

That's not "gaiming the system", it doesn't matter for the system. Being banned makes the forum read-only, and adjusting your Trust lists changes how you read the forum. Banned users could be on DT1 but won't be re-elected since they can't fullfill the "post within the last 30 days" requirement. So their Trust list only matters to themselves, and the users who included them. In naim027's case, those are 2 users who aren't included by anyone else, so that's where the "gaiming" ends.

I'm pretty sure doing what Timelord2067 said he did isn't possible.  Or is it?

It's possible, and makes sense. I'm now curious if a banned user can also create or remove feedback.

In brief, I support naim027 here, like LoyceV and The Pharmacist.

Does LoyceV still support him? I have not heard him speak out recently.

I'm a bit more lenient towards plagiarism than I was when massive numbers of shitposters were spamming many boards with posts they copied from a few pages earlier. The Merit system took care of that.
I'm not a Mod, so my opinion doesn't matter. For what it's worth: I didn't report naim027 for plagiarism when I first saw it, because in this quoted post he instantly admitted not being the author, and clearly he didn't know about the plagiarism rule. But I'm not a babysitter, so if a user doesn't fix all his plagiarism after a warning, that's just dumb.

Don't forget that banning for plagiarism is very rare on the internet. Some of the biggest websites on the planet wouldn't even exist without plagiarism (and massive privacy violations).

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Now, that in itself is not bad thing because c.$400 a month is a lot of money in his country especially to make and that just from one account here. He put a lot of effort in building up his naim027 account for that specific purpose and now it is banned therefore it will hurt financially and in one sense it is understandable he would try every way possible to try to have it rescinded including by sending PMs in the hope of having some support in order to pressure moderators.

What is your point? If today for some reason your account is banned then you are saying you will not pressure moderators. I highly doubt. You seems to enjoy hurting others with unnecessary arguments. If signature campaign was not exists then I highly doubt you would contribute to the forum at all. I saw many users who do not wear signature at the beginning, they think it helps them to build up a quick reputation. I read a few response in scam accusations against dulebit (topic a, topic b). A JollyGood is completely opposite in the threads. The aggression you show towards others was missing. In fact from the response anyone will easily mistakenly think that you are hired by them to advocate for Duelbits. Why did I miss the suspicious character of JollyGood but see a completely new JollyGood who single handily taken the lead to clear their employers name?

In brief, I support naim027 here, like LoyceV and The Pharmacist.

I would also like to see naim027 to get his account unlocked. If he was a completely shitposter then I would not show him any mercy.

Don't forget that banning for plagiarism is very rare on the internet. Some of the biggest websites on the planet wouldn't even exist without plagiarism (and massive privacy violations).

The amount of pressure a low rank and newbie account takes in the forum, someday we will find us isolated from the internet.

[Igebotz]

Just my $0.02 in favor of lifting his ban.

Just my 0.004 cent, which is twice what The pharmacist offers

Your math sucks The Pharmacist offered 500 times more.

I'm sorry, I....just had to laugh at that one.  I actually pulled out a calculator and did (0.004)($0.01)(500) since I can't move decimals and do multiplication in my head, and you're right on.  I've no idea where igehhh was coming from with that statement, because even $0.004 isn't double what $0.02 is.  Sorry for veering off topic, but I admire your attention to detail.

In reality, that was a mistake. I only noticed it because LoyceV mentioned it; he's always that one guy who sees everything. It was an error of one extra "0," which would have been difficult for any random user to notice.

Anyway, good luck naim027.  I'm rooting for you, and I don't believe I'm naive in doing so.  If you get unbanned, don't break the trust I have in you, eh?

Well, there is always that one person who believes in us no matter what, but we don't always realize this until we get into trouble. naim027 I hope you now know who your true gees are.

I'm pretty sure doing what Timelord2067 said he did isn't possible.  Or is it?

It's possible, and makes sense. I'm now curious if a banned user can also create or remove feedback.

Why would the system prevent banned users from accessing the merits system while allowing them to access the trust settings? If banned users can provide or remove feedback, we're in big trouble. The system will be tampered with, just as naim027 did with Timelord2026.

[LoyceV]

The amount of pressure a low rank and newbie account takes in the forum, someday we will find us isolated from the internet.

Agreed. It's always good to check back why I created my plagiarism thread:

Users lhmrij and xca900174 deserve a permban. Update: banned.

lhmrij
I noticed this post (archived):

I wonder how the recent BTC TX backlog will affect future byte distributions.

This is a direct copy/past from this post (archived):

I wonder how the recent BTC TX backlog will affect future byte distributions.

I checked the post he made before this one (archived):

Blackcoin's growth is actually quite modest compared to many other alts. I wouldn't read too much into this without context.

It's also a copy/past from someone else (archived):

Blackcoin's growth is actually quite modest compared to many other alts. I wouldn't read too much into this without context.

Edit:
xca900174
This user does the same. Copy/paste (archived):

i have two questions, when the next distribution will be? and can i link the same bitcoin address to another byteball address for the next distribution or i need more bitcoin linked with new address

Original post (archived):

i have two questions, when the next distribution will be? and can i link the same bitcoin address to another byteball address for the next distribution or i need more bitcoin linked with new address?

I doubt they speaks English. Both are Chinese, both use the same SONM ICO signature.

Those users won't be missed by anyone.

I think we should be more lenient for users who copied some text from another website because they found it interesting.

[tranthidung]

Why would the system prevent banned users from accessing the merits system while allowing them to access the trust settings? If banned users can provide or remove feedback, we're in big trouble. The system will be tampered with, just as naim027 did with Timelord2026.

I don't know because I am not banned. 

But my guess goes to

• User only can modify their trust list after a ban
• User can not write a new trust feedback or remove existing trust feedback after a ban
• naim027 can confirm it if he want

[Pmalek]

Is this user causing more trouble than doing good?
Will the forum profit more if he/she is gone and can't post anymore, or if he/she stays?

There are many ways in which people can do good, which would then be beneficial to the forum. If the person will be missed in any way in which they contribute to Bitcointalk, the admins could consider a lighter sentence. 

[Dic3L0v3r]

naim027 can confirm it if he wants

I confirm, that I can modify my trust list which I confirmed to LoyceV via Email a few weeks ago. I cannot leave any new feedback but I can delete old feedback that I left.
One Thing; I am saying again- Timelord Guy was always on my Distrust list. For some reason, I removed him a few weeks ago. Last week I added him again.

[lovesmayfamilis]

naim027 can confirm it if he wants

I confirm, that I can modify my trust list which I confirmed to LoyceV via Email a few weeks ago. I cannot leave any new feedback but I can delete old feedback that I left.
One Thing; I am saying again- Timelord Guy was always on my Distrust list. For some reason, I removed him a few weeks ago. Last week I added him again.

hysterics?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

The system will be tampered with, just as naim027 did with Timelord2026.

I hope I did not get you wrong. Why do you think by tilde a user naim027 tampered the system?  

Those users won't be missed by anyone.

It's exactly the reason I said if a user was shitposter and would not have any contribution then I would not show him a mercy good faith (I think mercy is a wrong choice of word which I used earlier).

naim027, have you requested hilariousandco to check your case? He is one of the most active global moderator who cares a lot to response user in the concerned threads.

[Dic3L0v3r]

naim027, have you requested hilariousandco to check your case? He is one of the most active global moderator who cares a lot to response user in the concerned threads.

Yes, I PM'ed Him twice. One right after creating this thread, Another one a few days ago. I have PM'ed theymos, Cyrus, hilariousandco and mprep. mprep already replied me;

Don't think I've handled the ban and I don't handle ban appeals for bans I didn't create.

[Igebotz]

naim027 can confirm it if he wants

I confirm, that I can modify my trust list which I confirmed to LoyceV via Email a few weeks ago. I cannot leave any new feedback but I can delete old feedback that I left.
One Thing; I am saying again- Timelord Guy was always on my Distrust list. For some reason, I removed him a few weeks ago. Last week I added him again.

hysterics?

If banned users can change and delete old feedback, the system has a bug! This should not be happening; banned users should not be able to access anything other than the "only read mode." Theymos should get up and fix up. Satoshi won't like this.

The system will be tampered with, just as naim027 did with Timelord2026.

I hope I did not get you wrong. Why do you think by tilde a user naim027 tampered the system?

I mean, he's still adjusting his trust settings, and he excluded Timelord2026 from his trust system via his banned account a few weeks ago for being against him! That is "tempered," right?

[Dic3L0v3r]

I mean, he's still adjusting his trust settings, and he excluded Timelord2026 from his trust system via his banned account a few weeks ago for being against him! That is "tempered," right?

Well, Have you verified his claims? I excluded him from my trust list in December 2021 which can be found on the LoyceV Trust list Viewer

That was already discussed in this thread too. I have explained why I don't trust his judgment;

Hello naim027, can you give me a break down as to why you Default Trust Distrust me, please?

Well, That was a long story Timelord. Seems you forgot everything. Once dkbit98 accused me and Poker Player as alts without any evidence and connections. You as a DT1, are Supposed to be investigated further before supporting his claims. You also claimed that my account had a connection with another random guy based on the Bitcoin address I copied from previous signature participants without verifying further. Later, Mr dkbit98 removed the neutral tag from my account after Poker Player submitted some proof of his claims.

Moreover, I saw you have left some feedback which is not correct in my opinion.

For example, You have left positive feedback to Scam busters. (Do you believe scam busters are unlike scam someone?), You left negative feedback just because someone applied on a paused campaign (That's cannot be a reason to be tagged). You have left negative feedback on some Ban evasion account (That's useless, Report to Mods via a thread instead)

So this is not just because he doesn't support my ban appeal. There are a few more people doesn't support my ban appeal. Did I exclude them? Do you still believe it's tempered?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I mean, he's still adjusting his trust settings, and he excluded Timelord2026 from his trust system via his banned account a few weeks ago for being against him! That is "tempered," right?

Adjusting trust setting is completely fine there are nothing to accuse one for it. If this was the case then anyone when add-remove someone then everyone should start to find the reason and starts to accuse them for nothing.

temper can also refer to one's mood in general; if you use the word in this sense, you might describe someone's temper as "angry" or "mild."

Your use of "tampered" was clearly indicating the mood. In other words you were accusing him for adjusting his trust setting. Was it necessary?

A user is here to get his banned account back. He is trying to convince the people who can help him to unban the account but some of you are so negatively attacking that it sounds like you want no one in the forum have their place other than some scam busters.

[Igebotz]

So this is not just because he doesn't support my ban appeal. There are a few more people doesn't support my ban appeal. Did I exclude them? Do you still believe it's tempered?

I confirm, that I can modify my trust list which I confirmed to LoyceV via Email a few weeks ago. I cannot leave any new feedback but I can delete old feedback that I left.
One Thing; I am saying again- Timelord Guy was always on my Distrust list. For some reason, I removed him a few weeks Sometimes ago. Last week I added him again.

I mean your English wasn't clear at first! But now it is!

I mean, he's still adjusting his trust settings, and he excluded Timelord2026 from his trust system via his banned account a few weeks ago for being against him! That is "tempered," right?

Adjusting trust setting is completely fine there are nothing to accuse one for it. If this was the case then anyone when add-remove someone then everyone should start to find the reason and starts to accuse them for nothing.

I mean, how? I've never accused anyone? I was surprised to learn that trust settings could be changed even after being banned! And I made it clear to theymos that if this is permitted, the DT system will be manipulated by enraged banned users! Lady!

Your use of "tampered" was clearly indicating the mood. In other words you were accusing him for adjusting his trust setting. Was it necessary?

Temper = Modify; can be used interchangeably in some cases depending on the sentence. You are the only one who misunderstood my points.

A user is here to get his banned account back. He is trying to convince the people who can help him to unban the account but some of you are so negatively attacking that it sounds like you want no one in the forum have their place other than some scam busters.

Don't do this!  I mean, if naim027 has 10 supporters, I'm one of them, if he has 3 supporters, I'm one of them, and if he has none, I'm dead. From the onset, I've been rooting for him! I gave him my 0.04 cents support. You have my support, naim027.