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November 11, 2022, 02:49:29 PM
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Recently, Russia has focused on attacks in only one place in Ukraine - near Bakhmut, and suffered enormous losses in manpower and equipment there. Every day, Russia is now losing 400 to 900 of its troops, which is about ten times less than the losses of Ukrainian troops. Therefore, Putin and his entourage are feverishly looking for ways to end the war in Ukraine, but at least somehow preserve their reputation. It is unlikely that they will succeed.

Where did you get this information? I've never heard of it and don't believe it either. Like everyone says, in today's world whoever holds the media is the winner, they are brainwashing us and we don't even know it. I do not support war because it causes pain not only for the countries involved in the war, but also for the whole world. But this war cannot not happen, cannot let the US government and their minions bully others or do whatever they think is right. Let's see who benefits the most in this battle and you'll understand, I won't argue who has the upper hand in the fight, let's wait until the final result.

Russia losing 900 troops per day is not even possible. They only have around 160,000 regular troops in Ukraine and on top of that there maybe another 40,000 allied troops. Losing close to a thousand soldiers every day should force them to stop their campaign in a month or so. And only around 20% of the reserve troops who have been recently called up have reached Ukraine. The remainder (80%) are still in Russia, going through various training programs. If the Russians were that desperate, they would immediately shift these troops to Ukraine.
If we arbitrarily take the confirmed losses of Russian troops only as dead (excluding the wounded, who are several times more), then according to the official statistics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they are:
     - October 29 total 70 250 per day 550,
     - 30 October          71 200               950,
     - 31 October          71 820               620,
     - 01 November      72 470               650,
     - 02 November      73 270               800,
     - 03 November      74 000               730,
     - 04 November      74 840               840,
     - 05 November      75 440               600,
     - 06 November      75 930               490,
     - 07 November      76 460               530,
     - 08 November      77 110               650,
     - 09 November      77 950               840,
     - 10 November      78 690               740,
     - 11 November      79 400               710.
These figures are approximate, but in reality the losses can be much higher. Especially now, when the Russians are chaotically retreating in the Kherson region to the left bank of the Dnieper. At first, the invaders for some reason believed that their leadership had agreed with the Armed Forces of Ukraine on an unhindered withdrawal. But after the retreating columns of the Russian Armed Forces were hit with precision weapons, the retreat turned into a stampede to the few remnants of the crossings across the Dnieper. Big traffic jams have formed there, since the Russians themselves have recently destroyed all the watercraft, fearing that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would  cross this river right after them. Now about 20,000 Russian invaders have gathered there, fighting for any opportunity to cross to the other side of the Dnieper.This is a very good goal for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They will either be killed or forced to surrender. Also, the Armed Forces of Ukraine capture a lot of captured equipment. By the way, since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already captured 500 tanks in the Russian troops. Now this number will increase sharply, since the occupiers will simply not be able to transport all the equipment across the Dnieper.

There will be no mercy for them, because retreating, they mined and blew up civilian critical infrastructure, massively robbed and removed equipment from medical and other institutions, museums, as a result of which Kherson, which now includes Ukrainian troops, was left without electricity, water and gas. The invaders forcibly deported part of the population of the Kherson region, including medical workers.

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November 12, 2022, 06:58:58 AM
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Unfortunately Russia will remain as a threat for the global peace and security.
Are you seriously? The West has robbed Russia by freezing its money and is now trying to find justifications to confiscate it. As Otto von Bismarck said:
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Do not expect that once you take advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, do not rely on the Jesuit agreements you have signed that allegedly justify you. They are not worth the paper they are written on. Therefore, it is worth either playing fair with the Russians, or not playing at all.

You stepped on the wrong guy's foot, you'll have to pay for it. I'm Russian, I'll take all your Nutella and make you eat shit. This is my plan, try to stop me if you can.  Grin
Without a doubt, I am not Russian, but I support Russia. The reason I am afraid to like it is also very simple, I adore Mr. Putin, in which he lays flowers for his teacher in the rain, and is very sad, he is a tough guy, and conversely, I don't think that Ukrainian comedian is a good national leader . Besides, NATO and the United States are existences that I have always disliked. The relationship between nations is the same as between us as individuals. If Mr Putin had not considered Ukrainian civilians, the war would have been over.
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I wonder what people with a brain damaged by Russian propaganda will now sing after the situation with Kherson?
Remember the next Russian idiotic fantasies "Kherson is now always in Russia"?  Grin Grin Grin
In reality, there was no surrender of the city.
In real:
1. The total defeat of the Russian terrorist group in the southern direction.
2. Losses that the Russian terrorist army has never suffered in modern history.
3. It will no longer be possible to hide that on the right bank of the Dnieper, a "forgotten" group of approximately 15,000 Russian terrorists has remained. Some of them are already feeding crayfish at the bottom of the Dnieper. Some in women's clothes are hiding in the city, some, dressed in civilian clothes, are trying to somehow get into Russia.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine and the MTR, of course, will find all the terrorists, and ... Well, let's not talk about the well-deserved punishment that the terrorists will suffer Smiley

And most importantly, there are 3 questions:
1. Deadline for the liberation of Donetsk and Luhansk regions from terrorists
2. Liberation of the occupied Crimea
3. Will the Rostov, Belgorod regions and Krasnodar Territory (Kuban) be returned to Ukraine

Well, about the payment of reparations, the question is no longer worth it - all the inhabitants of the terrorist country will pay, and more than one generation! Smiley


UPD And a few words about the "partners" of the country of terrorists, Belarus
Belarusian Defense Minister Khrenin ridiculed the Ukrainian military, who aggressively mine the territory on the border with Belarus:
"We have more foot soldiers than you have min. 7 times!"

You understand ?!  Grin Grin Grin

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November 13, 2022, 09:30:13 AM
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Unfortunately Russia will remain as a threat for the global peace and security.
Are you seriously? The West has robbed Russia by freezing its money and is now trying to find justifications to confiscate it. As Otto von Bismarck said:
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Do not expect that once you take advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, do not rely on the Jesuit agreements you have signed that allegedly justify you. They are not worth the paper they are written on. Therefore, it is worth either playing fair with the Russians, or not playing at all.

You stepped on the wrong guy's foot, you'll have to pay for it. I'm Russian, I'll take all your Nutella and make you eat shit. This is my plan, try to stop me if you can.  Grin
Without a doubt, I am not Russian, but I support Russia. The reason I am afraid to like it is also very simple, I adore Mr. Putin, in which he lays flowers for his teacher in the rain, and is very sad, he is a tough guy, and conversely, I don't think that Ukrainian comedian is a good national leader . Besides, NATO and the United States are existences that I have always disliked. The relationship between nations is the same as between us as individuals. If Mr Putin had not considered Ukrainian civilians, the war would have been over.

Sorry, don't take this as an insult or threat. But I, as a resident of Ukraine, who saw with my own eyes what the "Russian world" did in Bucha, Irpen, Kyiv, I want to wish you that you would know him, the "Russian world" closer. And personally! Do you love him? I hope it will come to your country too. And then you will describe your joyful experiences from meeting him. On the ruins of houses where the corpses of former friends and acquaintances.. Among the destroyed infrastructure... Among the many missing people, who will later be found in hidden mass graves, with traces of inhuman torture. Tell me how much you love Russia, looking into the eyes of a 6-year-old girl raped by 2-3 cute Russian soldiers, in front of her mother ... Whom the soldiers will then brutally kill in front of this girl ... This is exactly what the REAL Russian world looks like, it is Putin who gives orders to commit such crimes...

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Sorry, don't take this as an insult or threat. But I, as a resident of Ukraine, who saw with my own eyes what the "Russian world" did in Bucha, Irpen, Kyiv, I want to wish you that you would know him, the "Russian world" closer. And personally! Do you love him? I hope it will come to your country too. And then you will describe your joyful experiences from meeting him. On the ruins of houses where the corpses of former friends and acquaintances.. Among the destroyed infrastructure... Among the many missing people, who will later be found in hidden mass graves, with traces of inhuman torture. Tell me how much you love Russia, looking into the eyes of a 6-year-old girl raped by 2-3 cute Russian soldiers, in front of her mother ... Whom the soldiers will then brutally kill in front of this girl ... This is exactly what the REAL Russian world looks like, it is Putin who gives orders to commit such crimes...
What Russia did in Ukraine - USA did the same in Afghanistan and PAkistan
Israel did the same in Palestine but no one ever spoke about it - I don't find any forum here talking about USA and Israel blood shed in muslim countries

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Sorry, don't take this as an insult or threat. But I, as a resident of Ukraine, who saw with my own eyes what the "Russian world" did in Bucha, Irpen, Kyiv, I want to wish you that you would know him, the "Russian world" closer. And personally! Do you love him? I hope it will come to your country too. And then you will describe your joyful experiences from meeting him. On the ruins of houses where the corpses of former friends and acquaintances.. Among the destroyed infrastructure... Among the many missing people, who will later be found in hidden mass graves, with traces of inhuman torture. Tell me how much you love Russia, looking into the eyes of a 6-year-old girl raped by 2-3 cute Russian soldiers, in front of her mother ... Whom the soldiers will then brutally kill in front of this girl ... This is exactly what the REAL Russian world looks like, it is Putin who gives orders to commit such crimes...
What Russia did in Ukraine - USA did the same in Afghanistan and PAkistan
Israel did the same in Palestine but no one ever spoke about it - I don't find any forum here talking about USA and Israel blood shed in muslim countries

Let's do it - bring evidence, facts. Namely:
- Mass cynical murder of unarmed citizens of the country
- Mass rape - from young girls to older women.
- Sexual abuse of young boys, men
- Destruction, sadistic civilians and subsequent concealment, through mass graves in hard-to-reach places
- Sadistic torture, mockery and murder of military personnel of the country subjected to aggression.
- Contradictory sadistic antics - decapitation, dismemberment, hanging the disfigured bodies of local residents for display, public executions, ...
- Total destruction of civilian infrastructure. Objects that provide normal living conditions for civilians in cities and villages.
- Intentional, sadistic destruction of pets
- Total looting.
- Destruction of state symbols, persecution on ethnic and linguistic grounds.
- Destruction and theft of historical monuments, cultural values

And I'll tell you who else did this - the USSR, namely in Afghanistan!

PS Even if we admit the delusional nature of your statement that the United States allegedly did this in Afghanistan, is this an JUSTICE for you that the world terrorist country (Russia) is doing in Ukraine ?!


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November 15, 2022, 04:00:20 AM
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If we arbitrarily take the confirmed losses of Russian troops only as dead (excluding the wounded, who are several times more), then according to the official statistics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they are

In warfare, usually there will be 4-5 times injured soldiers when compared to those who are killed. If Russia lost 80,000 soldiers, then there should be 320,000 to 400,000 injured soldiers. This is not possible since they just had 160,000 on ground (200,000 if you add up DNR/LNR troops and PMC Wagner). And moreover, if they had suffered this many casualties, then it would be just impossible for them to counter the Ukrainian army across the frontline, which stretches for more than 1,000 km (Ukrainian strength as of now is more than 1 million).

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What Russia did in Ukraine - USA did the same in Afghanistan and PAkistan
Israel did the same in Palestine but no one ever spoke about it - I don't find any forum here talking about USA and Israel blood shed in muslim countries
What did you expect from a dictatorship that heavily censors anybody who talks about such matters! A couple of days ago Bolton was spewing some bullshit in a conference where someone in the audience stands up and simply asks him "how are we going to trust you when you lied about Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.". He was immediately attacked by armed police forces and dragged out of there in handcuffs!!!

I don't really blame @DrBeer for not knowing these things since he's grown up in this system where they brainwashed him into thinking his country (Ukraine) sending one of the largest number of troops to rape and murder women and children in Iraq was all a "peacekeeping mission".

Let's do it - bring evidence, facts. Namely:
I'm assuming you still have access to the internet and Wikipedia right? Or did the regime censor that too?
Here is from a quick google search https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings
And that's just one big case they couldn't cover up successfully out of millions of cases of war crimes US coalition (that includes Ukraine) committed abroad. You can even see more cases in the "See Also" section of the Wikipedia page!

Obviously there are a lot more sources that have more details and are more reliable. You can find them if you ever bothered to do some research!

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If we arbitrarily take the confirmed losses of Russian troops only as dead (excluding the wounded, who are several times more), then according to the official statistics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they are

In warfare, usually there will be 4-5 times injured soldiers when compared to those who are killed. If Russia lost 80,000 soldiers, then there should be 320,000 to 400,000 injured soldiers. This is not possible since they just had 160,000 on ground (200,000 if you add up DNR/LNR troops and PMC Wagner). And moreover, if they had suffered this many casualties, then it would be just impossible for them to counter the Ukrainian army across the frontline, which stretches for more than 1,000 km (Ukrainian strength as of now is more than 1 million).
If you do not believe the data of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then let's turn to the summary of the Russian Ministry of Defense. The last time such a report was served on Putin's desk was on November 13. It stated that the irretrievable losses of the personnel army of Russia (killed and missing) amount to 81,542 people, the losses of PMCs - 24,723 people, the losses of the Russian Guard - 5384 people. Thus, the total number of Russian losses in the war on the territory of Ukraine as of November 13 was 111,649 people.
 The number of wounded is probably several times higher. Therefore, in order to contain the front, Russia urgently needed mobilization. The cadre army of Russia is practically destroyed in Ukraine.

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If we arbitrarily take the confirmed losses of Russian troops only as dead (excluding the wounded, who are several times more), then according to the official statistics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they are

In warfare, usually there will be 4-5 times injured soldiers when compared to those who are killed. If Russia lost 80,000 soldiers, then there should be 320,000 to 400,000 injured soldiers. This is not possible since they just had 160,000 on ground (200,000 if you add up DNR/LNR troops and PMC Wagner). And moreover, if they had suffered this many casualties, then it would be just impossible for them to counter the Ukrainian army across the frontline, which stretches for more than 1,000 km (Ukrainian strength as of now is more than 1 million).
If you do not believe the data of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then let's turn to the summary of the Russian Ministry of Defense. The last time such a report was served on Putin's desk was on November 13. It stated that the irretrievable losses of the personnel army of Russia (killed and missing) amount to 81,542 people, the losses of PMCs - 24,723 people, the losses of the Russian Guard - 5384 people. Thus, the total number of Russian losses in the war on the territory of Ukraine as of November 13 was 111,649 people.
 The number of wounded is probably several times higher. Therefore, in order to contain the front, Russia urgently needed mobilization. The cadre army of Russia is practically destroyed in Ukraine.

That is why, in December 2022/January 2023, there will be the next stage of recruitment of 300.00 consumables in Russia. A crazy old man, he hasn’t played enough war yet, he doesn’t feel sorry for his citizens, he’s vile, notorious and vengeful. But it's not for long.

By the way, imperceptibly, all the Russians swallowed, as usual, the fact that Putin ANNOUNCED and officially signed the START of mobilization (which, however, he promised not to carry out a little earlier), and when the official deadline for CLOSE it approached, nothing happened! He mumbled something indistinct. And he didn't sign anything. He said that in words he closed it, and in general these are questions for the Ministry of Defense, but he has nothing to do with it Smiley It is called "turn on the idiot mode." Russians take it for granted Smiley

Judging by the ever-growing area, the cemetery all over Russia is indeed Putin's "short victorious war"... But this is not the end yet. 2023 will bring even more unexpected results Smiley Although ... by the new year, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will give out a lot of gifts, expect! Smiley

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I'm assuming you still have access to the internet and Wikipedia right? Or did the regime censor that too?
Here is from a quick google search https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings
And that's just one big case they couldn't cover up successfully out of millions of cases of war crimes US coalition (that includes Ukraine) committed abroad. You can even see more cases in the "See Also" section of the Wikipedia page!

Obviously there are a lot more sources that have more details and are more reliable. You can find them if you ever bothered to do some research!

I know this story! Yes, I do not deny it. But look. I wrote you a huge list, NOT SINGLE, but systemic crimes, for the last 8 months of this year only, committed by Russian Nazis and terrorists. And you told me with difficulty unearthed one story.
I believe that any criminal, be it a Nazi rashist, an American soldier, a soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, or my brother, having committed such crimes, MUST be punished! This is my position, and for me there are no "own" or "foreign" criminals - a criminal is a criminal, and the result of a crime is an inevitable punishment.

Apart from this bottom example that I know of, do you have anything else? Where are the "millions of cases"? Links to reliable sources and not fake Russian media?

By the way - do you know how much the USSR destroyed the civilian population of Afghanistan? Officially - more than 1 million people. One... MILLION... People! They were simply killed by the Soviet bastards. Just because they wanted to live the way they wanted and were used to. Unofficially, given that the "warriors" of the USSR did their best to DESTROY the traces of crimes (burned, buried corpses, simply blew up with powerful charges so that there were no identification options left, etc.), at least 2,000,000 people.
This data can be checked, of course not exactly, but the order of the numbers is accurate.

There is no desire to remember about this?

But about the terrible crimes in Ukraine arranged by the Russians (I do not mean the nationality "Russian", but precisely belonging to the country, I'm talking about citizens of Russia) - there will be many more. The facts of massacres and tortures in Kherson have already been revealed. What happened in Mariupol - under the Russian occupiers - I'm even scared to imagine ... But for everything, retribution and punishment will come. Immediate criminals will be punished, and those who supported them will pay for this for many more generations ....

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By the way - do you know how much the USSR destroyed the civilian population of Afghanistan? Officially - more than 1 million people. One... MILLION... People! They were simply killed by the Soviet bastards. Just because they wanted to live the way they wanted and were used to. Unofficially, given that the "warriors" of the USSR did their best to DESTROY the traces of crimes (burned, buried corpses, simply blew up with powerful charges so that there were no identification options left, etc.), at least 2,000,000 people.
This data can be checked, of course not exactly, but the order of the numbers is accurate.

There is no desire to remember about this?

Don't want to divert the topic, but there are inaccuracies here. It is true that 1 million to 2 million Afghans died during the war (1979-1989). However, most of the casualties resulted from the war between two factions of Afghans (Communists vs Islamists). The USSR had only a few tens of thousands of soldiers in Afghanistan, while the regime troops numbered at least half a million. Communists held on to power until 1992 (three years after the Soviet troop withdrawal), when Yeltsin stopped supplying them with diesel as per orders from the United States.

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Apart from this bottom example that I know of, do you have anything else? Where are the "millions of cases"? Links to reliable sources and not fake Russian media?
We are talking about more than 70 years of war and mayhem and over 35 million innocent people killed directly or indirectly. I already told you that you should start doing your research but you still want me to list them here even though I already listed half a dozen cases!

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By the way - do you know how much the USSR destroyed the civilian population of Afghanistan?
Why do you think I consider USSR, US, NATO and Ukraine to be different from each other?! They are all the same in my eyes and they've all done horrible crimes abroad, some more than others.

My point is that these days criminals are accusing other criminals of crimes they've all committed. That's the definition of hypocrisy.

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Russia is already a super power but its still not as huge as US since they don't have military bases every country in the world. But they proved to be economically prepared than the US economic sanction has put together.

I would however turn to China being the dominant super power since they have already made lots of countries on their side through their Belt and Road Initiative project and as of now, they have BRICS. This alliance had invited poor countries in South America which could turn to military alliance actually like Venezuela. Today, they've cemented the Solomon Island to be an ally which Australia had been very angry since its pretty much a security breach for them.
Russia and China have developed a thriving partnership based in part on their shared interest in undermining the United States.
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By the way - do you know how much the USSR destroyed the civilian population of Afghanistan? Officially - more than 1 million people. One... MILLION... People! They were simply killed by the Soviet bastards. Just because they wanted to live the way they wanted and were used to. Unofficially, given that the "warriors" of the USSR did their best to DESTROY the traces of crimes (burned, buried corpses, simply blew up with powerful charges so that there were no identification options left, etc.), at least 2,000,000 people.
This data can be checked, of course not exactly, but the order of the numbers is accurate.

There is no desire to remember about this?

Don't want to divert the topic, but there are inaccuracies here. It is true that 1 million to 2 million Afghans died during the war (1979-1989). However, most of the casualties resulted from the war between two factions of Afghans (Communists vs Islamists). The USSR had only a few tens of thousands of soldiers in Afghanistan, while the regime troops numbered at least half a million. Communists held on to power until 1992 (three years after the Soviet troop withdrawal), when Yeltsin stopped supplying them with diesel as per orders from the United States.

Do you want to tell me how the Soviet soldiers served there? From India ? Smiley Probably now I can tell the History of India and your formation, your entire family, well, I definitely "know" all this Smiley)))
I will voice it again - to my shame, my father served there and "performed an international duty at the request of the friendly people of Afghanistan." And he told me a lot, from what became the property of the public only after many years. He is a direct participant in this crime. So no need to tell fairy tales here...
At least before you INTENTIONALLY LIE, you would at least read Soviet statistics, which are always corrected "for a beautiful presentation." So, at least more than 510 thousand military personnel fought there. Still bydo about 100 thousand different kinds of civilians.
More than 25,000 soldiers of the USSR died in 18 years (Russia, of course, is a miserable parody of the USSR - in 9 months 80 thousand were killed, and about 240 thousand disabled, after a "successful special operation by the forces of the second army of the world" Smiley )
Total: 26,595 dead, 28,002 missing, 28,541 deserters.

And regarding the victims - I am certainly surprised that Russian propaganda destroys the brains of people in India, but in Afghanistan, more than 1 million civilians died at the hands of the Soviet army. There is no need to lie here habitually ... Understand - you can lie in Russia - there the people always believe everything, and do not even try to double-check. Here such an approach will not work, there are smart people who have access to information Smiley

First study what you are planning to lie about, so as not to look SO stupid Smiley

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By the way - do you know how much the USSR destroyed the civilian population of Afghanistan? Officially - more than 1 million people. One... MILLION... People! They were simply killed by the Soviet bastards. Just because they wanted to live the way they wanted and were used to. Unofficially, given that the "warriors" of the USSR did their best to DESTROY the traces of crimes (burned, buried corpses, simply blew up with powerful charges so that there were no identification options left, etc.), at least 2,000,000 people.
This data can be checked, of course not exactly, but the order of the numbers is accurate.

There is no desire to remember about this?

Don't want to divert the topic, but there are inaccuracies here. It is true that 1 million to 2 million Afghans died during the war (1979-1989). However, most of the casualties resulted from the war between two factions of Afghans (Communists vs Islamists). The USSR had only a few tens of thousands of soldiers in Afghanistan, while the regime troops numbered at least half a million. Communists held on to power until 1992 (three years after the Soviet troop withdrawal), when Yeltsin stopped supplying them with diesel as per orders from the United States.

Do you want to tell me how the Soviet soldiers served there? From India ? Smiley Probably now I can tell the History of India and your formation, your entire family, well, I definitely "know" all this Smiley)))
I will voice it again - to my shame, my father served there and "performed an international duty at the request of the friendly people of Afghanistan." And he told me a lot, from what became the property of the public only after many years. He is a direct participant in this crime. So no need to tell fairy tales here...
At least before you INTENTIONALLY LIE, you would at least read Soviet statistics, which are always corrected "for a beautiful presentation." So, at least more than 510 thousand military personnel fought there. Still bydo about 100 thousand different kinds of civilians.
More than 25,000 soldiers of the USSR died in 18 years (Russia, of course, is a miserable parody of the USSR - in 9 months 80 thousand were killed, and about 240 thousand disabled, after a "successful special operation by the forces of the second army of the world" Smiley )
Total: 26,595 dead, 28,002 missing, 28,541 deserters.

And regarding the victims - I am certainly surprised that Russian propaganda destroys the brains of people in India, but in Afghanistan, more than 1 million civilians died at the hands of the Soviet army. There is no need to lie here habitually ... Understand - you can lie in Russia - there the people always believe everything, and do not even try to double-check. Here such an approach will not work, there are smart people who have access to information Smiley

First study what you are planning to lie about, so as not to look SO stupid Smiley
I don't find any forum here talking about USA and Israel blood shed in muslim countries



For example, I did not find a single forum where it would be discussed to whom Russia has brought peace, prosperity, and development over the past 20 years. CONSPIRACY ? Or maybe for the reason that this simply does not exist and cannot be? Or under the guise of bringing "peace" is actually brought war and destruction? How, for example, when native Russians, Ukrainians, Jews, and others are destroyed under the guise of "saving Russian speakers"? When in the phrase "Russian World" - the word "peace" - this is bullying, torture, murder, violence, looting ...

PS I have been to Israel more than once. Tell me - why in Israel, probably 50% of the workers are ... Muslims, from the same Palestine? And why is Israel not killing them? Why is one of the largest immigrant groups in the US Muslims? Is it some kind of non-Muslims or people from Muslim countries? Smiley

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For example, I did not find a single forum where it would be discussed to whom Russia has brought peace, prosperity, and development over the past 20 years. CONSPIRACY ? Or maybe for the reason that this simply does not exist and cannot be? Or under the guise of bringing "peace" is actually brought war and destruction? How, for example, when native Russians, Ukrainians, Jews, and others are destroyed under the guise of "saving Russian speakers"? When in the phrase "Russian World" - the word "peace" - this is bullying, torture, murder, violence, looting ...

PS I have been to Israel more than once. Tell me - why in Israel, probably 50% of the workers are ... Muslims, from the same Palestine? And why is Israel not killing them? Why is one of the largest immigrant groups in the US Muslims? Is it some kind of non-Muslims or people from Muslim countries? Smiley
good point added - since we are not allowed to travel to Israel and that is written on passport too so I only know what is in news and people's option
Many jews are very good when they are not in their host country - but they are killing many palestinians muslim.
maybe those living in the Israel are the one who are rebel and works on their instruction

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PS I have been to Israel more than once. Tell me - why in Israel, probably 50% of the workers are ... Muslims, from the same Palestine?
In 1800s all the workers in United States were Africans. That didn't mean they were working there out of their own free will; they were slaves that were forced out of their homes and into labor just to stay alive.

P.S. It is interesting how you are trying to whitewash the crimes of the globally condemned apartheid regime.

But Russia has now realized that their true friends are Islamic states.
What about China and India?
What about the other countries in BRICs like Brazil?
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PS I have been to Israel more than once. Tell me - why in Israel, probably 50% of the workers are ... Muslims, from the same Palestine?
In 1800s all the workers in United States were Africans. That didn't mean they were working there out of their own free will; they were slaves that were forced out of their homes and into labor just to stay alive.

P.S. It is interesting how you are trying to whitewash the crimes of the globally condemned apartheid regime.

But Russia has now realized that their true friends are Islamic states.
What about China and India?
What about the other countries in BRICs like Brazil?
Grin
of course - India knows how to play the game they are in good term with USA and they have made good term with Russia as well. They want to benefit their people and they know well how to play double game. This is called smart moves. And they did it very well

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good point added - since we are not allowed to travel to Israel and that is written on passport too so I only know what is in news and people's option
Many jews are very good when they are not in their host country - but they are killing many palestinians muslim.
maybe those living in the Israel are the one who are rebel and works on their instruction

I will answer with the words of my acquaintances in Israel (one is a combat aviation pilot, the other is an IDF officer)
To my question "How does it happen - on the one hand you are fighting with the Palestinians, on the other hand - they work for you!?" followed by the answer:
We are not at war with the Palestinians. We are at war with terrorists and their accomplices who want to destroy us. Among the terrorists there are people of different nationalities and religions. And yes - often they are in the territory of Palestine. We have repeatedly warned Palestine that we will fire DEFENSIVELY to defeat the terrorists in response to their attacks. If Palestine considers it right to provide its territory to terrorists, that is their choice. If Palestine does not provide its territory to terrorists, if it does not support terrorists, then they will not be under attack."

This situation is similar to the question "Why are you Ukrainians killing Russian citizens since 2014?". It sounds touching, if not to say that the inhabitants of Russia, with weapons in their hands, invaded our land in 2014, began to kill our citizens, destroy our country. We HAVE the RIGHT to live, WE HAVE the right to defend ourselves, WE HAVE the RIGHT to destroy terrorists, from whatever country they may be, in this case, from the territory of Russia.

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