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July 30, 2022, 09:50:32 AM
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To be honest with you, I don't think gambling with fake money through fake money gambling app will help an addicted gambler stop gambling, rather, it will only increase or intensify the urge to keep gambling with real money.
I will tell you how, imagine a scenario where you are gambling with fake money and along the line, you won let's say $50,000 in fake money, how would you react to that?
An addicted gambler will say to him or her self, "had this been real money, this $50,000 would have been a lot of money for me to spend".
That thought alone can drive that gambler into continuing to gamble with real money.
At the end of it all, you discover that the fake money gambling app only helped the addicted gambler to Stay away from gambling with real money for just a short period of time.
This is true but for those who got a little wiser, they will know that the situation can changed the moment they step in the real casino. The reason why they can won big in a fake game is that they are not afraid to bet big because they know that once they lose their play money, it will be refilled again after some time.

In other words, it is unlimited. Not unlike if you are betting in real life where you mostly came to the casino with a limited amount of money and you carefully budget it. It's fine if these fake gambling app/site can help us even in a short period of time but at least they can be used by the time, we don't have a money and we are itching to play gambling.

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July 30, 2022, 10:10:38 AM
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It is a have to keep yourself busy doing other things instead of trying to play, even using a play money.

The system inside you will lead you to play back using real money. It's unavoidable.

Yes, that is exactly what I mean. Saying that a gambling addict will have the same or similar satisfaction gambling with play money is like saying that an adrenaline junkie trying to quit base jumping will have similar satisfaction jumping on a trampoline. Because the source of the high is not the same, the euphoria will be different. The same logic applies to pathological gamblers and their pathological behavior.

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July 30, 2022, 01:18:07 PM
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It is a have to keep yourself busy doing other things instead of trying to play, even using a play money.

The system inside you will lead you to play back using real money. It's unavoidable.

Yes, that is exactly what I mean. Saying that a gambling addict will have the same or similar satisfaction gambling with play money is like saying that an adrenaline junkie trying to quit base jumping will have similar satisfaction jumping on a trampoline. Because the source of the high is not the same, the euphoria will be different. The same logic applies to pathological gamblers and their pathological behavior.


I strongly agree.

Also, playing gambling using fake money won't give you anything, you're just fooling yourself. Besides, using fake money doesn't contain any challenge, because of course it's just a game using fake money, compare to real gambling, it has more challenge since we're talking about winnings and profits. Using fake money can't heal someone's addiction, because it will just bore them to the highest and eventually they will start playing the real thing again.
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July 30, 2022, 02:32:29 PM
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I strongly agree.

Also, playing gambling using fake money won't give you anything, you're just fooling yourself. Besides, using fake money doesn't contain any challenge, because of course it's just a game using fake money, compare to real gambling, it has more challenge since we're talking about winnings and profits. Using fake money can't heal someone's addiction, because it will just bore them to the highest and eventually they will start playing the real thing again.
That is correct. Keep yourself busy in some productive activities and do not waste your time by being happy with the fake money.
This fake money is fake happiness which will go away in a jiffy.
However spend your time in productive activities. Its healthy for mind and body.

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It is a have to keep yourself busy doing other things instead of trying to play, even using a play money.

The system inside you will lead you to play back using real money. It's unavoidable.

Yes, that is exactly what I mean. Saying that a gambling addict will have the same or similar satisfaction gambling with play money is like saying that an adrenaline junkie trying to quit base jumping will have similar satisfaction jumping on a trampoline. Because the source of the high is not the same, the euphoria will be different. The same logic applies to pathological gamblers and their pathological behavior.


I strongly agree.

Also, playing gambling using fake money won't give you anything, you're just fooling yourself. Besides, using fake money doesn't contain any challenge, because of course it's just a game using fake money, compare to real gambling, it has more challenge since we're talking about winnings and profits. Using fake money can't heal someone's addiction, because it will just bore them to the highest and eventually they will start playing the real thing again.
Complete waste of time - and not going to work
better spend your time in productive activities - time is money and biggest human assert.

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July 31, 2022, 11:50:10 PM
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It is a have to keep yourself busy doing other things instead of trying to play, even using a play money.

The system inside you will lead you to play back using real money. It's unavoidable.

Yes, that is exactly what I mean. Saying that a gambling addict will have the same or similar satisfaction gambling with play money is like saying that an adrenaline junkie trying to quit base jumping will have similar satisfaction jumping on a trampoline. Because the source of the high is not the same, the euphoria will be different. The same logic applies to pathological gamblers and their pathological behavior.


I strongly agree.

Also, playing gambling using fake money won't give you anything, you're just fooling yourself. Besides, using fake money doesn't contain any challenge, because of course it's just a game using fake money, compare to real gambling, it has more challenge since we're talking about winnings and profits. Using fake money can't heal someone's addiction, because it will just bore them to the highest and eventually they will start playing the real thing again.
Complete waste of time - and not going to work

They need to find more viable option how to address gambling addiction.
For me, this is not the way to do it also. It won't resolve this problem.
They will just be tempted to play more and find ways how to use real money.
If the gambler wants real change, he needs to contemplate on his own why he badly needs a change of lifestyle.
It is in his own accord how he can change things for himself.
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July 31, 2022, 11:50:48 PM
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@Fivestar4everMVP and @Rruchi man you both are right, I think there is a better and a more lasting way to kill gambling addiction and gambling with fake money is not one of those quality and lasting way to kill addiction. But one of the things we should note is that, for what purpose is the gambler breaking away from gambling, is it because the gambler is losing money or because the addiction is taking a hold on their real life and affecting them negatively?
This question needs to be answered because, one needs to set the priority clear if a gambler wants to break an addiction then the best way is a total withdrawal from any form of gambling, and shift attention to another positive real-life activity.


I agree that it will help us save money but I do not think that it will help to avoid gambling addiction.  With exposure in gambling games, using fake money can trigger us to use real money to suffice that curiousness we had in mind.  Aside from that, if we have a good outcome in our fake money gambling engagement, we might get tempted to use real money.  But of course this depends on the subject since different people have different level of cautiousness and level of valuing money.

But if the player wants to take a break because he loses money constantly then use the fake app with no real money to gamble and build the skills before going back to a real gambling platform to test out the skills build on the free app.

Yeah, that is a good way to save money.  After reading this thread, I somehow got curious about trying the fake money to gambling and it is really helpful in knowing different slots game functions without spending a single cent.  Then once I got to hold the mechanics, and found it interesting, it is when I bet with real money.

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Yeah, that is a good way to save money.  After reading this thread, I somehow got curious about trying the fake money to gambling and it is really helpful in knowing different slots game functions without spending a single cent.  Then once I got to hold the mechanics, and found it interesting, it is when I bet with real money.
Saving up is important and also living within your means and try not to harm anyone financially and physically and psychologically.
Fake money is fake happiness and fake happiness is nothing but a way to have a fake satisfaction, would not work - also time is money - dont waste your time

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There may be alternatives to gambling with money but I don't think they will be as fun as gambling with real money. Gambling games like poker or blackjack are fun games but they can't be comparable if they are played with money at stake. The sense of competition and of trying to outwit your playmate is not high when the game is all just for fun without money involved. It is okay to lose when there's no money at stake. With money, losing is avoided at all cost. This causes the adrenaline and the thrill to rise.
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There may be alternatives to gambling with money but I don't think they will be as fun as gambling with real money. Gambling games like poker or blackjack are fun games but they can't be comparable if they are played with money at stake. The sense of competition and of trying to outwit your playmate is not high when the game is all just for fun without money involved. It is okay to lose when there's no money at stake. With money, losing is avoided at all cost. This causes the adrenaline and the thrill to rise.
I don't think there is any alternative for money. Generally a man may play any game for his entertainment, but if a gambler is told to play games with fake money he will never do that. He will deserve that it is value less or just a time killer things. Nothing is more valuable to him than money. So this strategy will never work for gamblers.

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August 01, 2022, 02:24:21 PM
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They need to find more viable option how to address gambling addiction.
For me, this is not the way to do it also. It won't resolve this problem.
They will just be tempted to play more and find ways how to use real money.
If the gambler wants real change, he needs to contemplate on his own why he badly needs a change of lifestyle.
It is in his own accord how he can change things for himself.

Gambling with fake money won't solve gambling addiction, I think it only strengthen the urge to gamble of a gambling addict but for those who are not addicted and are just looking for some entertainment, then using these apps that use fake money will can be an alternative.  It will save us a lot of money but it won't give us real money either.
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They need to find more viable option how to address gambling addiction.
For me, this is not the way to do it also. It won't resolve this problem.
They will just be tempted to play more and find ways how to use real money.
If the gambler wants real change, he needs to contemplate on his own why he badly needs a change of lifestyle.
It is in his own accord how he can change things for himself.

Gambling with fake money won't solve gambling addiction, I think it only strengthen the urge to gamble of a gambling addict but for those who are not addicted and are just looking for some entertainment, then using these apps that use fake money will can be an alternative.  It will save us a lot of money but it won't give us real money either.

Gamblers play gambling because they want to win real money. If you introduce fake money in gambling and stop the usage of real money, many gamblers will quit gambling because the main motive of these gamblers is to make and earn real money.
Yeah, you can ask kids or under age to play gambling with fake money, but never think that grown up adults will agree to gambling with fake money.

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What is your opinion on Fake money gambling apps, do you recognize the potential I think they have to assist in reducing the number of gamblers who loose real money?
I think the idea and method of betting with fake money can't work for heavy gambling addicts.

I have a friend who is addicted to heavy gambling, his nature likes to have fun, splurge, shopping without calculation, he can't be calm/stressed without money for one day, that's what happened to my friend, fact, for that according to my understanding gambling addicts are not just gambling, high imaginations, exceeding normal people.

Someone who is addicted to gambling, he only has thoughts and fantasies of winning continuously, without losing, not a few addicts who justify any means to earn money and bet, if fake money betting ideas and methods are given to gambling addicts, I think it will make that user financially worse, he will gamble every time without working to make money, the ending is stressful, tantrums, emotional and leads to domestic violence or neighbours, if he doesn't have real money.

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August 01, 2022, 05:12:19 PM
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There may be alternatives to gambling with money but I don't think they will be as fun as gambling with real money. Gambling games like poker or blackjack are fun games but they can't be comparable if they are played with money at stake. The sense of competition and of trying to outwit your playmate is not high when the game is all just for fun without money involved. It is okay to lose when there's no money at stake. With money, losing is avoided at all cost. This causes the adrenaline and the thrill to rise.

Indeed, it will only trigger  that urge to gamble even more. If they want to change their lifestyle it should start within themselves or better to ask for a help to   some medical professionals who has their expertise in mental health, it is not bad to ask for help from them. But they should be careful with relapses, there would still some time you will feel the same way like before but they should fight for it.
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There may be alternatives to gambling with money but I don't think they will be as fun as gambling with real money. Gambling games like poker or blackjack are fun games but they can't be comparable if they are played with money at stake. The sense of competition and of trying to outwit your playmate is not high when the game is all just for fun without money involved. It is okay to lose when there's no money at stake. With money, losing is avoided at all cost. This causes the adrenaline and the thrill to rise.

Indeed, it will only trigger  that urge to gamble even more. If they want to change their lifestyle it should start within themselves or better to ask for a help to   some medical professionals who has their expertise in mental health, it is not bad to ask for help from them. But they should be careful with relapses, there would still some time you will feel the same way like before but they should fight for it.
It is very important that one who wants to make a change - they should think about it - once they decide they should stick to their decision.
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There may be alternatives to gambling with money but I don't think they will be as fun as gambling with real money. Gambling games like poker or blackjack are fun games but they can't be comparable if they are played with money at stake. The sense of competition and of trying to outwit your playmate is not high when the game is all just for fun without money involved. It is okay to lose when there's no money at stake. With money, losing is avoided at all cost. This causes the adrenaline and the thrill to rise.

Indeed, it will only trigger  that urge to gamble even more. If they want to change their lifestyle it should start within themselves or better to ask for a help to   some medical professionals who has their expertise in mental health, it is not bad to ask for help from them. But they should be careful with relapses, there would still some time you will feel the same way like before but they should fight for it.
It is very important that one who wants to make a change - they should think about it - once they decide they should stick to their decision.
It is hard to get out of something.But its hard to keep drawing in the puddle of mud and die a slow death. You only live once - live it to perfection.

That's why there are professionals who will guide you through the process because it is definitely going to be hard. And I guess those who are already in the state of addiction can hardly manage to control urges if they're all alone. Of course it needs strong resolve from them and the will to really change. But this isn't enough. Therapists, psychologists, and other rehabilitation experts are there to make sure the change they want to achieve will happen.

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Gamblers play gambling because they want to win real money. If you introduce fake money in gambling and stop the usage of real money, many gamblers will quit gambling because the main motive of these gamblers is to make and earn real money.
Yeah, you can ask kids or under age to play gambling with fake money, but never think that grown up adults will agree to gambling with fake money.
Maybe it would work well for people who accidentally installed a gambling app or they accidentally visited a casino and signed up out of curiosity.
They will not see about using real money because curiosity makes them want to know more about gambling, which is why they still use fake money.
But over time, they realized that gambling games would be more interesting if they used real money.
So the use of counterfeit money can pleasure playing gambling.
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Gambling with fake money won't give the satisfaction you get from betting with real money because you're not taking a risk and you know you are not winning or losing in the real sense. It can't be called gambling if there is no possibility of a true win or loss. I don't think anyone who enjoys gambling would patronize those apps. 

You are right there, how can we enjoy a fake gambling game if the money we earn from those apps is also fake. Of course, as a gambling player we cannot feel the true feeling of winning and losing, it seems that we are just fooling ourselves as a gambler and we are just wasting our time without benefiting from what we are doing and we don't get the real joy here.

Also, if anyone tries to use fake gambling apps, it's probably the people who are not really full-fledged gamblers and are not yet at the point of becoming addicted to gambling. Because if you are a real gambler and you are addicted to gambling I am 100% sure that you will not waste your time on this matter of apps.




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August 02, 2022, 04:24:41 AM
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There may be alternatives to gambling with money but I don't think they will be as fun as gambling with real money. Gambling games like poker or blackjack are fun games but they can't be comparable if they are played with money at stake. The sense of competition and of trying to outwit your playmate is not high when the game is all just for fun without money involved. It is okay to lose when there's no money at stake. With money, losing is avoided at all cost. This causes the adrenaline and the thrill to rise.

Indeed, it will only trigger  that urge to gamble even more. If they want to change their lifestyle it should start within themselves or better to ask for a help to   some medical professionals who has their expertise in mental health, it is not bad to ask for help from them. But they should be careful with relapses, there would still some time you will feel the same way like before but they should fight for it.
It is very important that one who wants to make a change - they should think about it - once they decide they should stick to their decision.
It is hard to get out of something.But its hard to keep drawing in the puddle of mud and die a slow death. You only live once - live it to perfection.
If the gambler is truly decided then there is nothing who can hinder Him from letting it go , the main problem here is that most gamblers says they are quitting once they lost every amount hey have in hand but after gathering another funds? then they will return to the table and play again , they are only fooling themselves , so even if there is play money or other form? it is still the willingness and dedication of the said gambler that will save him off.

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August 02, 2022, 06:59:34 AM
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There may be alternatives to gambling with money but I don't think they will be as fun as gambling with real money. Gambling games like poker or blackjack are fun games but they can't be comparable if they are played with money at stake. The sense of competition and of trying to outwit your playmate is not high when the game is all just for fun without money involved. It is okay to lose when there's no money at stake. With money, losing is avoided at all cost. This causes the adrenaline and the thrill to rise.

I agree with you, without real money in gambling the games like poker or blackjack become very different. I used to play some poker only with play money to try some new strategies and found that people play more aggressive if it's not there own money they lose. There were so many more All ins happening that it became not realistic to keep trying out new strategies. To me the excitement in gambling comes not only from winning or losing, but also from the chance to win a big jackpot. Without the chances of winning real money the thrill is not there. It would be nice to have a casino where you can only win, unfortunately that is not realistic. For us to have the chance to win a jackpot, we must also face the chance to lose money. The only real alternative I see to money would be to gamble with things. For example, you could gamble with your PS4 and if you win you get another one. I did that in the past with CSGO skins, it was a nice way to build up my inventory.
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