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[Trofo]

But looking back at what happened to once giant of Italy - Juventus, anything is very possible and the unimaginable could also happen to them.

It isn't the same offense. Juventus was outright tampering with results and buying of refs. City was "just" cooking the financial books to avoid Financial Fair Play. It isn't the same ruling body as well, FA is not obligated to think about it same way Serie A ruling body was.

For me, this is all one big shit show, where everyone looses. If they strip City of titles, City loses, PL looses and the other clubs that get that titles weren't able to celebrate them properly. If it is relegation or big points deduction, Arsenal is already champion and PL looses a lot of its appeal. If it is just financial fine and transfer ban, that isn't a problem for City at all since they gained much more.

FFP should work in a way that clubs get punished closer to the moment they violate it. Heck these transgressions were in the period from 2009 to 2018. It has been almost 10 years since last charge. Does it really have to be that slow?

[JollyGood]

It might be true that Guardiola knew this was inevitable and decided to distance himself before the controversy became the biggest scandal in Premier League history. He really should have distanced himself from Manchester City years ago but he stayed in his job, he will be unable to escape the scandal though no matter how much he tries as much of the success occurred when he was manager.

I genuinely believe this is a seismic event in football history and Manchester City have no idea how big this moment will be for them. The repercussions of cheating over a decade including falsifying accounts, tax matters, making under the table payments and using £830 million to circumvent the fair play rules and buy the best players in the process.

I have been thinking about this Manchester City incident after watching Rio Ferdinand say he is expecting a golden medal in his cabinet soon. I was like, you mean if any tittle is stripped Manchester city, their players will return the medals; is it so?

If it's so, Manchester city is at risk of facing lawsuit even from their individual players who already recorded those trophies in their archive. What is coming might be bigger than Manchester city to handle.

Maybe Pep saw this coming and honorably bowed out.

[igebotz]

FFP should work in a way that clubs get punished closer to the moment they violate it. Heck these transgressions were in the period from 2009 to 2018. It has been almost 10 years since last charge. Does it really have to be that slow?

Maybe the whistle blower got tired of checking and collecting data  because I don't believe they stopped ripping the league and became an proper club from 2019, nah that's impossible.

The Arabs have been drawn into the whole shit and it's turning into more of a political shit show now. 

[Z-tight]

Maybe the whistle blower got tired of checking and collecting data  because I don't believe they stopped ripping the league and became an proper club from 2019, nah that's impossible.

Isn't this funny coming from a Chelsea fan, talking about a proper club, lol, how else do you think your club was able to close the gap on the red army (Arsenal, Liverpool and United), of course it was through spending above their revenue and cheating too. The only thing is that it was City that was unlucky to get caught, while Chelsea went on to self report the less serious breaches and got a slap on the wrist punishment.

[cryptofrka]

I’m pretty sure it will all end with just financial sanctions - possibly £100–200 million.

There is no chance they will be stripped of past titles or relegated to the Championship. Underlying all this drama are political factors and the significant loss of broadcasting revenue that would occur if Man City were to leave the Premier League.

I don't think that they will lose the titles but I also think that it won't be just financial. I can see them being hit with a huge points deduction which would basically keep them out of Europe.
They can probably hit them with successive 30-point deduction seasons, in which all of their top players would leave and they'd have to rebuild fully, this time according to FFP.

I also think this will annoy their owners, so I would not be at all surprised if they just sell the players and abandon ship - leaving City without money to compete further.

For me, this is all one big shit show, where everyone looses. If they strip City of titles, City loses, PL looses and the other clubs that get that titles weren't able to celebrate them properly. If it is relegation or big points deduction, Arsenal is already champion and PL looses a lot of its appeal. If it is just financial fine and transfer ban, that isn't a problem for City at all since they gained much more.

FFP should work in a way that clubs get punished closer to the moment they violate it. Heck these transgressions were in the period from 2009 to 2018. It has been almost 10 years since last charge. Does it really have to be that slow?

Yep, fully agree. We all knew about this, how is it possible that it takes so long for it to be processed?

[igebotz]

Maybe the whistle blower got tired of checking and collecting data  because I don't believe they stopped ripping the league and became an proper club from 2019, nah that's impossible.

Isn't this funny coming from a Chelsea fan, talking about a proper club, lol, how else do you think your club was able to close the gap on the red army (Arsenal, Liverpool and United), of course it was through spending above their revenue and cheating too. The only thing is that it was City that was unlucky to get caught, while Chelsea went on to self report the less serious breaches and got a slap on the wrist punishment.

It'll get to everyone eventually and if you really think those teams got to where they are without any fraudulent deals then you must be joking - everyone is innocent until proven guity

FYI Chelsea had already won 3 European trophies before Abramovich bought the club in 2004 - and also one of the founding fathers of the European competitions- Chelsea was/is a proper club, they only had financial constraints back in the days.

[Trofo]

Maybe the whistle blower got tired of checking and collecting data  because I don't believe they stopped ripping the league and became an proper club from 2019, nah that's impossible.

Isn't this funny coming from a Chelsea fan, talking about a proper club, lol, how else do you think your club was able to close the gap on the red army (Arsenal, Liverpool and United), of course it was through spending above their revenue and cheating too. The only thing is that it was City that was unlucky to get caught, while Chelsea went on to self report the less serious breaches and got a slap on the wrist punishment.

It'll get to everyone eventually and if you really think those teams got to where they are without any fraudulent deals then you must be joking - everyone is innocent until proven guity

FYI Chelsea had already won 3 European trophies before Abramovich bought the club in 2004 - and also one of the founding fathers of the European competitions- Chelsea was/is a proper club, they only had financial constraints back in the days.

I don't think there are more than 5 clubs total in Premier League and La Liga that aren't guilty of cooking with FFP rules as much as they could. From big clubs in PL only Arsenal comes to my mind, since they were super tight with cash during Wenger era. Maybe Spurs to some extent as well. It's just the way modern football is.

Chelsea is giving life time contracts to avoid FFP. Barcelona is exchanging players with full payment going both ways, like in Pjanic case with Juventus....Everyone is avoiding rules in its own way. If you are asking how those two examples helped, it is because of how transfers are counted under FFP. When you buy the player, fee is stretched over the years he signed his contract. So if you buy a player for 100M on 5 year contract, it is counted as 20M for each of those 5 years. When you sell the player, you immediately get whole amount in that year balance.