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October 21, 2022, 10:34:06 AM
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The Russian and Ukraine War is likely to happen for a long time and has been more than 9 months, the damage and chaos of the Ukraine economy makes us sad because the impact of the war is certainly massive on many people, and of course the global economy is affected by the increasing oil price.

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October 21, 2022, 05:04:57 PM
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The Russian and Ukraine War is likely to happen for a long time and has been more than 9 months, the damage and chaos of the Ukraine economy makes us sad because the impact of the war is certainly massive on many people, and of course the global economy is affected by the increasing oil price.

If you look at the absolute cost in USD terms, countries outside the war zone has suffered more economic damage when compared to both Russia and Ukraine. Crude oil prices have remained high, LNG prices are up by 20x, coal prices are up by 2x, Potash fertilizer has gone up by 3x.etc. Prices of wheat, sunflower oil and barley are at historic highs. We now have double digit inflation in most of the countries. And I would say that the impact is felt more in third world nations such as India, since we import most of the oil and gas from outside.

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October 21, 2022, 07:34:07 PM
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The impact on the global economy is significant. For example:
Approximately 100 speed cameras were stolen in Sweden, the kind of cameras that were later found in downed Russian drones! Smiley
In Sweden for the last few months, unknown people (come on Smiley ) have been stealing speed cameras. Cameras of this particular model are used on unmanned vehicles that the terrorist country uses in the war against Ukraine. The Swedish edition Aftonbladet writes about it.
According to the publication, at least 3 cameras have been stolen on the highway between the cities of Hofors and Falun over the past 24 hours.
Two more were stolen close to Hedemore. The police are investigating the systemic theft of cameras!

There are Canon cameras in metal cabinets along the trails. It is these cameras that are in the Russian "unparalleled" drones "Orlan-10". This is confirmed by the dismantling of many downed drones.


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Russia has shown its historical habits here too - to steal and then lie :)and then lie Smiley

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October 27, 2022, 01:06:06 AM
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If you look at the absolute cost in USD terms, countries outside the war zone has suffered more economic damage when compared to both Russia and Ukraine. Crude oil prices have remained high, LNG prices are up by 20x, coal prices are up by 2x, Potash fertilizer has gone up by 3x.etc. Prices of wheat, sunflower oil and barley are at historic highs. We now have double digit inflation in most of the countries. And I would say that the impact is felt more in third world nations such as India, since we import most of the oil and gas from outside.

I guess sanctions have really "backfired", just like Putin predicted. Now the world is facing the consequences of punishing one of the world's largest exporters of oil and other necessary commodities. Unless the war comes to an end, the global economy will only get worse. I hope both countries (Ukraine and Russia) come through some sort of peace deal for this nightmare to end once and for all. The world doesn't need another war, as many lives are suffering both in and out of the conflict zone.

Not only Ukrainians and Russians are dying, but people from other countries are now facing starvation due to rising food and energy costs. The poor are now poorer, while the rich, richer. COVID-19 may've affected the economy for a short period of time, but the war/invasion that ruined everything for good. No one knows how long the conflict between Ukraine and Russia will last, so we can only hope for the best. Just my thoughts Grin

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Expect another hit to the economy in around 1 week from now. The midterm elections in the United States will be completed by 8th November 2022. And immediately after that I expect the Americans to start refilling their Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR). The SPR is at the lowest level since 1984, and at some point the Americans need to refill it. And it is going to be tricky, given the recent production cuts by the OPEC+, and the proposed cap on Russian crude. I expect the Brent crude prices to climb to $120-125 levels by mid-November.


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On the UAV- sector, it is a direct battle between the Bayraktar drones from Turkey and the Shahed drones from Iran.
They are not in the same category though, Shahed-136 is categorized as loitering munitions while Mohajer-6 is in the same category as TB2. Although that too is not a good comparison since TB2 is more like a Frankenstein where they import each part and put it together inside Turkey while majority of Iranian drones are 100% domestically produced.
https://www.rt.com/russia/564899-ukraine-bayraktar-vovan-lexus/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-0hnhDOtCM
I always knew that Bayraktar drones were terrible but not this much! The chairman of the Committee on National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Serhiy Pashynskyi said they "lost all their Bayraktar drones in first week of the war since they were so useless that they were all shot down by air defenses".

Basically Turkey abused the current situation in Ukraine to globally advertise their useless drone so that they could sell it to idiots elsewhere. That is the same thing US has been doing. One example is their useless Patriot system that used to be sold for $3-6 million per package and now is being sold for up to $12 million.
And some people still have doubts about who is benefiting from this war and who started it Smiley


Pashinsky and RussiaToday are, of course, ideal sources of information  Grin For those who live in fakes - that's it Smiley

Ok, I laughed heartily, let's get real!
After the start of another terrorist attack by a terrorist country on Ukraine, Ukraine received about fifty Bayraktars TB-2. The exact data is hardly available in open sources, but the approximate order can be found out.

It's silly to say (I'm not the Russian media Smiley) part of the bayraktars were lost during the hostilities. Now these devices are used in the east and south directions. But their active use has now decreased. The reasons ? The Armed Forces of Ukraine have more effective means of destroying terrorists, such as HYMARS, kamikaze drones, high-precision artillery, guided missiles, etc.
The approximate number of operating devices (Bayraktars TB-2) is several dozen.

For educational purposes: In Ukraine, the construction of a plant for the production of Bayraktars TB2 and promising models has begun.
A full-fledged unmanned fighter (I understand for Russians with "analogue-shit" weapons this is not very clear Smiley) developed by a Turkish company, equipped with a Ukrainian engine Smiley

PS by the way - I would like to hear your comments on the statements of the Russian media about "the complete destruction of Ukrainian air defense in March 2022"? Smiley Today, the air defense perfectly worked out another raid of drones and missiles of the country of an international terrorist! Only in the Kyiv region and Kyiv, 4 cruise missiles and 10 Shahed-136 drones were shot down.

I don’t ask about the rest of the “successes” of the army of marauders and terrorists, so as not to injure the psyche of supporters of the Kremlin ghouls and their fakes Smiley

And yet - tell me - where are the ragged mobilized ones driven like cattle for slaughter? In which country is the president-terrorist, losing the war, forcing his citizens to die for the sake of his complexes? Smiley

And yet - December-January a surprise awaits you !!! Yes Yes Yes ! Who managed to hide from the first mobilization ... will fall into the second! Which, according to the "president who never lies" is not, will not be, and definitely will not be Smiley

Yes, the second wave of mobilization in Russia is likely to start in January 2023 (after the New Year).  From November 1, 2022, the conscription of young people aged 18-27 for military service begins.  Therefore, the mobilization will be temporarily suspended.  

However, from the New Year, mobilization will resume.  None of the Russians wants to fight anymore (everyone who wishes has already gone to the front on the agenda or voluntarily).  

The world economy is in recession.  It has nothing to do with hostilities between Russia and Ukraine.
The paradox is that 2022-2023 could be (in theory) be incredibly successful for Russia due to rising energy and grain prices after the recession of the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic.  Russia could significantly improve its economic situation, raise the standard of living of its citizens, and at the same time contribute to a faster recovery of the world economy from recession.  

Instead, we are witnessing absolute madness and destruction of the future and present.

I never imagined before how easy it is to manipulate the collective unconscious, suppressing people's will to live and stimulating the will to die.  This is scary.

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Instead of worrying about who speaks what where you should worry about the bad advice the American military is giving your troops that is leading to their loss and destruction. 3 much needed aircraft were destroyed based on that bad advice trying to use million dollar planes to shoot down a $10k-$15k drone! At least one of them was confirmed to be hunted down by the very drone it was trying to shoot down!

Basically US is treating Ukraine as a lab rat where they test strategies they have been testing elsewhere and failing! They did the same exact thing in Saudi Arabia and lost half a dozen planes there too.
This war is not going to end as long as Ukraine is being treated as the "experiment field".

The plane is a trifle against the background of how the Armed Forces of Ukraine every day send hundreds of representatives of the "second most powerful army in the world" to hell, and destroy hundreds of millions of dollars worth of equipment of the terrorist army Smiley
By the way - thanks to Russia for the most powerful Lend Lease! Lend-Lease, which Russia has launched since March 2022, is constantly leaving tens and hundreds of units of military equipment of our army. A very cool fact, easily verifiable - there were fewer tanks and armored personnel carriers in the Armed Forces of Ukraine before the war than in 3 months after the second phase of the terrorist war unleashed by Russia against Ukraine. And this is all due to the abandoned military equipment regularly "regrouped", but in fact cowardly fled, Russian terrorists Smiley
And the United States and Britain really train and advise our army, teach modern warfare technologies, provide real high-tech weapons, and not fake trash, which, with the help of Soyuzmultfiln, raises the ego of a grandfather with the sexual characteristics of a grandmother, and of the entirere Russian people Smiley
More and more people in the West are beginning to scratch their heads wondering why they should be suffering with sky-high inflation, unaffordable utility bills, and unruly mobs of freeloading Ukrainian migrants. Ukrainians' minds are puzzled over the amazing speed at which the Ukrainian government swallows up vast sums of money being sent to the country with nothing to show for it. The public services in the West are failing due to a lack of funds. NATO on the other hand sends numerous kinds of weapons systems, which are being shipped off in the Ukrainian direction, that are either destroyed, sold to third parties around the world or taken as trophies by the Russians. while inflation is making their replacements unaffordable.

Though I do not pray for the war to continue. The war for supremacy should stop. This war between Russia and Ukraine might seem like a movie in eyes of many, simply because it hasn't begun to knock on the doors of other people in various countries. The war between both countries is to subside and be settled amicably, rather than for the US to add more coal to the fire that's already beneath.


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War greatly affects the economy of every countries, it doesn't give any good thing at all but inflation, structural damages, many people will be unemployed, panic, despair, and uncertainty. War consumes a lot of funds for destruction of its enemy while it goes the same thing for the other country, it's just pure idiocracy, where people want to prove how powerful they are in exchange of nothing, to be honest.

War should be avoided as much as possible, but people always choose violence to get what they want, and that's what gonna makes us extinct in this world in the future.
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NATO on the other hand sends numerous kinds of weapons systems, which are being shipped off in the Ukrainian direction, that are either destroyed, sold to third parties around the world or taken as trophies by the Russians.
Weapons "going missing" in such a large scale conflict is normal but the scale of them being sold on black market is outrageous. Some sources like CBS news have claimed in the past that up to 70% of what is donated to Ukraine is being sold on black market.

You'd wish they were taken by the Russians, the worse part is that these weapons are being sold to terrorist organizations. Some of them intentionally where US uses Ukraine as a middle man to arm its proxies like ISIS to cover the paper trail and have someone to blame when they are caught using those weapons in near future.

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War greatly affects the economy of every countries, it doesn't give any good thing at all but inflation, structural damages, many people will be unemployed, panic, despair, and uncertainty. War consumes a lot of funds for destruction of its enemy while it goes the same thing for the other country, it's just pure idiocracy, where people want to prove how powerful they are in exchange of nothing, to be honest.

War should be avoided as much as possible, but people always choose violence to get what they want, and that's what gonna makes us extinct in this world in the future.
Well, the impact of war is quite large for the instability of the world economy, this is triggered by several factors, for example the traffic jam of commodity assets across the world which makes an item's price can soar many times. but that's not the only impact of war that can destroy a country, many children lose their parents and lose their education in that country. it is difficult to describe all of that and what we hope is that peace and tranquility in every country is something that is quite coveted by some countries today. Inflation will continue if the war does not stop and thousands of people die in vain in this case.

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Instead of worrying about who speaks what where you should worry about the bad advice the American military is giving your troops that is leading to their loss and destruction. 3 much needed aircraft were destroyed based on that bad advice trying to use million dollar planes to shoot down a $10k-$15k drone! At least one of them was confirmed to be hunted down by the very drone it was trying to shoot down!

Basically US is treating Ukraine as a lab rat where they test strategies they have been testing elsewhere and failing! They did the same exact thing in Saudi Arabia and lost half a dozen planes there too.
This war is not going to end as long as Ukraine is being treated as the "experiment field".

The plane is a trifle against the background of how the Armed Forces of Ukraine every day send hundreds of representatives of the "second most powerful army in the world" to hell, and destroy hundreds of millions of dollars worth of equipment of the terrorist army Smiley
By the way - thanks to Russia for the most powerful Lend Lease! Lend-Lease, which Russia has launched since March 2022, is constantly leaving tens and hundreds of units of military equipment of our army. A very cool fact, easily verifiable - there were fewer tanks and armored personnel carriers in the Armed Forces of Ukraine before the war than in 3 months after the second phase of the terrorist war unleashed by Russia against Ukraine. And this is all due to the abandoned military equipment regularly "regrouped", but in fact cowardly fled, Russian terrorists Smiley
And the United States and Britain really train and advise our army, teach modern warfare technologies, provide real high-tech weapons, and not fake trash, which, with the help of Soyuzmultfiln, raises the ego of a grandfather with the sexual characteristics of a grandmother, and of the entirere Russian people Smiley
More and more people in the West are beginning to scratch their heads wondering why they should be suffering with sky-high inflation, unaffordable utility bills, and unruly mobs of freeloading Ukrainian migrants. Ukrainians' minds are puzzled over the amazing speed at which the Ukrainian government swallows up vast sums of money being sent to the country with nothing to show for it. The public services in the West are failing due to a lack of funds. NATO on the other hand sends numerous kinds of weapons systems, which are being shipped off in the Ukrainian direction, that are either destroyed, sold to third parties around the world or taken as trophies by the Russians. while inflation is making their replacements unaffordable.

Though I do not pray for the war to continue. The war for supremacy should stop. This war between Russia and Ukraine might seem like a movie in eyes of many, simply because it hasn't begun to knock on the doors of other people in various countries. The war between both countries is to subside and be settled amicably, rather than for the US to add more coal to the fire that's already beneath.

Shortsightedness and infantilism is what drives such thoughts.
Let me explain - if you carefully follow the rhetoric of the country of a terrorist, you should have noticed, and they are talking about it OPENLY, no longer hiding behind some fantasies, that the conversation is not about a war with Ukraine, but about a full-fledged war with the Western world. And now Ukraine is the deterrent that stopped and has already quite successfully defeated the army of Russian terrorists. And the EU, at least now, is more profitable to pay with money and weapons than with the lives of its citizens and its physically destroyed country / countries.
The Kremlin Nazis do not hide the fact that after Ukraine they have quite clear goals - Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland. And then the countries that were part of the Warsaw Pact bloc. And if this new brown plague is not destroyed now, then you will not be indignant, but simply will be destroyed by the Nazis / Russian terrorists in the Kremlin. Do you want to see what these bastards have done to CIVIL, defenseless residents of many peaceful Ukrainian cities? The same will happen to you if we don't drive an aspen stake into the sternum of rashiZm, with your support. Believe me - German Nazism against the background of Russian rashiZm, these are petty dirty tricks, I apologize for such a comparison!

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First of all we are in 2022, not 1997. The global economy today is very different than it used to be. It happened in a very different era, with a very different global economic structure, and underlying causes that are irrelevant today.

With inflation high and the conditions of the war still not over and the storm of recession continuing to have a special impact. In my view the economy is a very big thing and depends on what the government is going to do about it and how we can support them.

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Weapons "going missing" in such a large scale conflict is normal but the scale of them being sold on black market is outrageous. Some sources like CBS news have claimed in the past that up to 70% of what is donated to Ukraine is being sold on black market.

You'd wish they were taken by the Russians, the worse part is that these weapons are being sold to terrorist organizations. Some of them intentionally where US uses Ukraine as a middle man to arm its proxies like ISIS to cover the paper trail and have someone to blame when they are caught using those weapons in near future.

And this is one of the reasons why the US military was reluctant to provide advanced weaponry to Ukraine, despite the pressure from Biden administration. A number of NLAWs and Javelins have popped up in Syria. And I am quite sure that they will be transported to other conflict zones as well (such as Yemen, Afghanistan and Africa). Multiple parties are benefitting here. First in line are the defense industries in the United States who sell these overpriced pieces of junk. Then comes the Ukrainian political establishment, who gets their cut. And further down the pyramid are the Ukrainian military officers who steal the weapon shipments and sell them in the black market.

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Expect another hit to the economy in around 1 week from now. The midterm elections in the United States will be completed by 8th November 2022. And immediately after that I expect the Americans to start refilling their Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR). The SPR is at the lowest level since 1984, and at some point the Americans need to refill it. And it is going to be tricky, given the recent production cuts by the OPEC+, and the proposed cap on Russian crude. I expect the Brent crude prices to climb to $120-125 levels by mid-November.


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If you read ALL the news and not extracts from Russian propaganda, you will learn a lot of new and interesting things. The situation is this:
- In fact, "anti-OPEC +" appears on the market: the USA, China, Japan, India, South Korea and Great Britain.
- The purpose of this "alliance" is to stabilize the oil market by selling part of its strategic reserves.
Who will sell and how much? In total, the US plans to sell 50 million barrels of oil from the SPR, including 18 million barrels that were previously approved, the White House said. Another 32 million barrels will be sold on an exchange basis in the coming months.
Britain intends to sell 1.5 million barrels of oil from its reserves, the Financial Times reported. India, according to Bloomberg, sells 5 million barrels.
There are no specific data regarding the plans of other countries. South Korea announced only the fact of the planned sale, without specifying the volume. Oil sales by China from reserves, according to the consulting company JLC, will amount to at least 7.33 million barrels.

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October 31, 2022, 10:36:14 PM
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why is USA so eager to help Ukraine. Do they aim to destroy Russia only or do they really want to help Ukraine?

This is like a system that one want to control the world and no other country should measure up to it. This is what I think with the US and Russia fighting that it is looking like Russia and Ukraine. US helping Ukraine to bring down the army and strength of Russia. Few days ago the US was sending army around the boundaries of Ukraine to protect it against Russia. I think US is not only helping the Ukraine but protecting to reduce Russia strength to stand against them.
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Nothing will happen Smiley

If you read ALL the news and not extracts from Russian propaganda, you will learn a lot of new and interesting things. The situation is this:
- In fact, "anti-OPEC +" appears on the market: the USA, China, Japan, India, South Korea and Great Britain.
- The purpose of this "alliance" is to stabilize the oil market by selling part of its strategic reserves.
Who will sell and how much? In total, the US plans to sell 50 million barrels of oil from the SPR, including 18 million barrels that were previously approved, the White House said. Another 32 million barrels will be sold on an exchange basis in the coming months.
Britain intends to sell 1.5 million barrels of oil from its reserves, the Financial Times reported. India, according to Bloomberg, sells 5 million barrels.
There are no specific data regarding the plans of other countries. South Korea announced only the fact of the planned sale, without specifying the volume. Oil sales by China from reserves, according to the consulting company JLC, will amount to at least 7.33 million barrels.

You are talking about a total of 50 million or so, spread out across several months. The global crude oil production is more than 100 million barrels per day, and this amount represents less than half of a day's output. And you are ignoring the fact that the reserves need to be refilled at some point, especially when there are heightened chances of a global armed conflict between the super-powers. Americans have already emptied more than half of their reserves. How much more they can sell? They need to make sure that the reserves doesn't dip below a critical threshold.

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Russian War vs Ukraine certainly has a big impact on the world, especially Russia is a country that supplies oil and gas for many countries, when the war is certainly supply disruption so as to make the stock reduced, and of course the long -term impact is an increasingly difficult global economy.


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November 01, 2022, 07:13:38 AM
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And you are ignoring the fact that the reserves need to be refilled at some point, especially when there are heightened chances of a global armed conflict between the super-powers. Americans have already emptied more than half of their reserves. How much more they can sell? They need to make sure that the reserves doesn't dip below a critical threshold.

Yeah, as usual, after the 300$ per barrel prediction, the math teacher strikes again:
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCSSTUS1&f=M

US strategic reserves were at 638,085 in January 2021 they went as low 405 million barrels on the last sale on October 14, 2022, simple 2nd-grade math will tell you that the decline is just one-third and nowhere near the more half you're dreaming in your hate-filled nightmares.
So basically in 8 months of continuous release, the US has emptied just 1/3 of their strategic reserve, not to mention mandatory commercial reserves and the company's stocks, so it could keep on going like that for another year with no problems, unlike someone else who has trouble balancing their budget as Ural oil right now sells for less than before the war.
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Is it possible to believe that Uk partnered with the US to blow up the north stream pipeline?



Did Russia get to know about this through a message sent out by UK citizens?

No comments for now, the whole world is watching and needs to know about this, the involvement of the UK and USA in the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine.



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Weapons "going missing" in such a large scale conflict is normal but the scale of them being sold on the black market is outrageous. Some sources like CBS news have claimed in the past that up to 70% of what is donated to Ukraine is being sold on the black market.

You'd wish they were taken by the Russians, the worse part is that these weapons are being sold to terrorist organizations. Some of them intentionally where US uses Ukraine as a middle man to arm its proxies like ISIS to cover the paper trail and have someone to blame when they are caught using those weapons in near future.

And this is one of the reasons why the US military was reluctant to provide advanced weaponry to Ukraine, despite the pressure from Biden administration. A number of NLAWs and Javelins have popped up in Syria. And I am quite sure that they will be transported to other conflict zones as well (such as Yemen, Afghanistan and Africa). Multiple parties are benefiting here. First in line are the defense industries in the United States who sell these overpriced pieces of junk. Then comes the Ukrainian political establishment, who gets their cut. And further down the pyramid are the Ukrainian military officers who steal the weapon shipments and sell them in the black market.

There is a good Russian saying "do not judge by yourself" Smiley Perhaps in your country and surroundings this is the norm, but everything is different here. Javelin and NLOV are not trash. Rubbish is obtained from "unparalleled" Russian tanks, after meeting with the indicated types of weapons. Warehouse control is quite strict. I do not exclude that single copies could fall into the hands of terrorists (Russians) and were handed over to their subordinate terrorists in late February - early March 2022, when Russia organized the next stage of a terrorist attack on Ukraine, and our troops were forced to retreat in some sectors of the front. But everything else (theft and your other fantasies) is your fantasies, most likely built on personal experience or "traditions" Smiley

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