The impact of Russian and Ukrain war on world economy

[pooya87]

Yes, it also seems to me that Turkey is one of the main beneficiaries of this conflict. 
In general, Turkey's foreign policy, in my opinion, is very reasonable.

There has been some benefits for Turkey and a lot of other countries but I wouldn't say Turkey is the main beneficiary of it considering how the inflation in Turkey is at an all time high of 90%!!!

As for their foreign policy it is their only option and it is the worst policy any country can have. They are stuck between two blocs and have to play both sides without leaning towards either side! If they betray the Western Bloc then the Americans immediately start their war crime file to kick them out of NATO and Greece would invade right away. If they betray the Eastern bloc their energy supply would vanish and their inflation would soar a lot higher than this and depending on what the "betrayal" is they could be invaded from 3 sides (South, East and North) by 4 armies.

They were so worried about a possible war with NATO that they were even going to remove Putin and shift all responsibility for the war in Ukraine onto him.

Do you have any reference for this claim?

[AverageGlabella]

Do you have any reference for this claim?

No they do not because it is made up or by poor quality news that are looking for sensationalist headlines. To many people fall for these types of news and treat them as fact when they could not be further from it.

Greece would invade right away.

Does Greece have the army and finances for an invasion? Their economy collapse only a couple of years ago any drawn out war would put them right into that territory again.

[pooya87]

Does Greece have the army and finances for an invasion? Their economy collapse only a couple of years ago any drawn out war would put them right into that territory again.

Greece has been being armed by United States over the past couple of months.
As I said the possible scenario is that they will first kick Turkey out of NATO then Greece (with the help of NATO) would start the invasion. Keep in mind that Turkish military is the most dependent military despite its size. From their airforce to their defenses are all imported whether fully (eg. bought US aircraft) or parts (like their Bayraktar drones). Kicking them out of NATO means all these imports would stop too and their military suddenly drops down to the weak category.

[Sir Legend]

The impact of the russia vs ukraine war is of course very heavy because it is almost a year of war and there is no sign of ending, for the economy of course russia and ukraine are 2 important countries because they are supplying countries for oil, gas and so on, when the war of course disrupts the supply of the 2 countries .

[DrBeer]

The situation with the fall of two rockets in Przevodov in the Grubeshevsky district of Poland, which is ten kilometers from the border with Ukraine, as a result of which a farm was destroyed and two men were killed, is still controversial in the sense that there is no unambiguous answer to the question of whether these were Russian missiles, or Ukrainian ones, with which Ukraine shot down these attacking Russian missiles.

On November 15, Russia launched a massive missile attack on Ukrainian territory, firing some 97 cruise missiles at Ukrainian cities. Of these, 73 missiles were shot down by Ukrainian air defense. However, as a result of Russian strikes, more than 15 energy infrastructure facilities on the territory of Ukraine were damaged. Millions of Ukrainians were left without electricity.
In Poland, they say that, judging by the discovered remains of the rocket, it is Russian-made. But the United States has already stated that, according to their preliminary estimates, the missile that fell in Poland belongs to the Ukrainian air defense. According to President Joe Biden, this is evidenced by the trajectory of the missiles. It appears that the US is trying to avoid a direct military confrontation between NATO and Russia.

Russia made a statement that none of their air-strikes were located within 35 miles from the Poland border. It has been confirmed already that the missile was fired by the Ukrainian armed forces. NATO still wanted to blame Russia, by issuing a weird statement that although Ukraine had fired the missile, Russia was responsible for it. It is sad that two precious human lives were lost. Hopefully with the winter season starting soon, the fighting will come to a pause and a ceasefire agreement can be reached before the conflict resumes.

Since Russia said that it had nothing to do with it, it means that Russia deliberately did it. It sounds like humor, but in reality it is a fact. As soon as Russia is caught by the ass, she starts squealing and squealing to the whole world that "it's not us !!!!", and quickly trying to hide traces, witnesses and so on.

Yes, I know that now NATO has decided to play the game "let's not escalate", hiding behind the convenient topic "this is the Ukrainian S300 air defense missile, yes it happens, well, Ukraine is defending itself, you yourself understand, we disagree, the problem is solved." Yes, NATO has once again shown its "capacity" and "adherence to the concept." Yes, I don’t like it, but the truth is above all, even if I don’t like it (I understand that such an approach seems “creepy” to supporters of the concept of the Russian world ).
I won’t specify that not 1 but 2 missiles hit Poland, which I respect (the first pictures from the scene of the tragedy showed this), the remains of the rocket filmed by Polish journalists have nothing to do with the rocket from the S-300 complex. Well, and an important clarification - the S-300 missiles have a self-destruct system in case of missing the target, or not reaching the trajectory, or other emergencies. This node is one of the most reliable, for a simple reason - in the course of hostilities, in limited areas, and the absence of 100% guarantees of undermining the target, it can lead to an arrival at its own positions with a non-zero probability. So theoretically it is POSSIBLE to assume that:
1. The missile missed and did not destroy the target
2. The rocket chose such a trajectory that it went to the adjacent territory. For those who served in air defense, tell us about the maximum range of these missiles, and especially for the modification that they pass off as having fallen in Poland, and approximately indicate where the air defense systems are located in western Ukraine, in the border areas with Poland.
3. Missile's Critical Self-Destruct System Failed

We take all these 3 extremely unlikely events and .... We remember about 2 missiles! Those. 2 extremely unlikely events that happened to a couple of objects, at the same time and in the same place?! I am ready to listen to a reasoned answer and refutation, taking into account the above FACTS

[Theones]

The impact of the russia vs ukraine war is of course very heavy because it is almost a year of war and there is no sign of ending, for the economy of course russia and ukraine are 2 important countries because they are supplying countries for oil, gas and so on, when the war of course disrupts the supply of the 2 countries .

the impact is heavy and the after effect is felt in almost all part of the world
and COVID and Afghar - USA crisis this was too much for the world to digest.

[DrBeer]

Does Greece have the army and finances for an invasion? Their economy collapse only a couple of years ago any drawn out war would put them right into that territory again.

Greece has been being armed by United States over the past couple of months.
As I said the possible scenario is that they will first kick Turkey out of NATO then Greece (with the help of NATO) would start the invasion. Keep in mind that Turkish military is the most dependent military despite its size. From their airforce to their defenses are all imported whether fully (eg. bought US aircraft) or parts (like their Bayraktar drones). Kicking them out of NATO means all these imports would stop too and their military suddenly drops down to the weak category.

Let's calm down and calmly find out what's going on?
1. Yes, the United States supplies weapons to Greece. That is exactly what it is. And that is in 2022. All right. I’ll even say for sure - from about May 2022. And I’ll name the reason - the United States itself is forcing Greece to transfer more weapons to Ukraine, promising to supply more modern weapons, NATO standard. You will be surprised, but Greece has very large stocks of weapons produced in the USSR, which, entering Ukraine, without adaptation, are used to destroy Russian terrorist troops.
2. Greece has already transferred a lot of weapons to Ukraine, and when there was a real danger of depletion of weapons, the United States promised to replace them. List of the next delivery of weapons from Greece to Ukraine:
122 BMP-1s along with ammunition;
15 thousand 73 mm shells;
20 thousand AK-47s;
3.2 million rounds of 7.62 mm caliber;
60 MANPADS FIM-92 Stinger;
17 thousand 150 mm artillery shells;
1.1 thousand RPG-18 anti-tank grenades.
3. Greece buys weapons not only in the US. In the EU (Germany, France,....). And this is due to the identification of "thin spots" in the conflict with Turkey in 2020 in the Mediterranean. This is not a secret, Greece openly declares this.
4. Turkey is, of course, a peculiar player, but no one will "throw" him out of NATO. Firstly, it is not beneficial to many European countries. Turkey is a deterrent in the region, for the same Russia. I will not say anything about the combat quality of the Turkish armed forces. But in terms of scale, this army is the largest (commensurate with the miserable "second army of the world"), and besides, it is much more technologically advanced. Plus, Turkey, without looking back anywhere, indicates to Russia where its place is, and does what it needs. Plus, Turkey turned out to be an excellent supplier of "unparalleled" Russian weapons, for in-depth study by NATO partners

[Sithara007]

Does Greece have the army and finances for an invasion? Their economy collapse only a couple of years ago any drawn out war would put them right into that territory again.

Greece has been being armed by United States over the past couple of months.
As I said the possible scenario is that they will first kick Turkey out of NATO then Greece (with the help of NATO) would start the invasion. Keep in mind that Turkish military is the most dependent military despite its size. From their airforce to their defenses are all imported whether fully (eg. bought US aircraft) or parts (like their Bayraktar drones). Kicking them out of NATO means all these imports would stop too and their military suddenly drops down to the weak category.

Apart from the United States, Turkey is the only other NATO member with a combat-ready army. The armed forces of UK and Germany are a joke. And at this point, I don't think that anyone would kick Turkey out of NATO. Replacing Turkey with Saudi Arabia? That maybe a good idea, but the problem is that the Saudis themselves are not interested. And Greece is a laughing stock now. They have a population of 10 million (decreasing at a rate of 1% per year). Forget about Turkey, they would struggle to be competitive against the armed forces of Kosovo.

[pooya87]

the United States itself is forcing Greece to transfer more weapons to Ukraine, promising to supply more modern weapons, NATO standard.

So you just approved what I said, US is arming Greece (with modern weapons that are not meant to be sent to Ukraine). The rest is correct but irrelevant.

4. Turkey is, of course, a peculiar player, but no one will "throw" him out of NATO. Firstly, it is not beneficial to many European countries. Turkey is a deterrent in the region, for the same Russia.

Again you are not wrong but you are missing the point. Turkey is only useful for NATO as long as it is playing for the NATO and not themselves. If for example they get closer to Russia (eg. to solve their energy crisis and the 90% inflation rate) they lose that usefulness.
There are also a lot of other plans they have for Turkey such as invasion and total destruction of another country called Armenia so that NATO can come to the Caspian sea and steal the massive amount of gas there to solve their own energy crisis.
And a bunch more.

As I've said many times before, Turkey is only in NATO as long as it is useful for them. Otherwise they would kick them out very quickly.

Replacing Turkey with Saudi Arabia?

The Europeans can't handle the level of negative public opinion against the dictatorship that brutally murdered a reporter. Besides the plan for the Saudis were another NATO which is commonly known as "Arabic NATO" that would have consist of a dozen countries in West Asia to form an alliance to act as a proxy between US and Iran to fight instead of US!
It never got anywhere though which is a very funny story

[DrBeer]

the United States itself is forcing Greece to transfer more weapons to Ukraine, promising to supply more modern weapons, NATO standard.

So you just approved what I said, US is arming Greece (with modern weapons that are not meant to be sent to Ukraine). The rest is correct but irrelevant.

4. Turkey is, of course, a peculiar player, but no one will "throw" him out of NATO. Firstly, it is not beneficial to many European countries. Turkey is a deterrent in the region, for the same Russia.

Again you are not wrong but you are missing the point. Turkey is only useful for NATO as long as it is playing for the NATO and not themselves. If for example they get closer to Russia (eg. to solve their energy crisis and the 90% inflation rate) they lose that usefulness.
There are also a lot of other plans they have for Turkey such as invasion and total destruction of another country called Armenia so that NATO can come to the Caspian sea and steal the massive amount of gas there to solve their own energy crisis.
And a bunch more.

As I've said many times before, Turkey is only in NATO as long as it is useful for them. Otherwise they would kick them out very quickly.

Replacing Turkey with Saudi Arabia?

The Europeans can't handle the level of negative public opinion against the dictatorship that brutally murdered a reporter. Besides the plan for the Saudis were another NATO which is commonly known as "Arabic NATO" that would have consist of a dozen countries in West Asia to form an alliance to act as a proxy between US and Iran to fight instead of US!
It never got anywhere though which is a very funny story

1. "as you just confirmed what I said, the US is arming Greece (with modern weapons that are not meant to be sent to Ukraine). The rest is correct, but not important." and "Like I said, the possible scenario is that first they kick Turkey out of NATO, and then Greece (with the help of NATO) starts an invasion (of Turkey)." - just my clarification was about the complete delusion of this fantasy of yours And the clarification why the United States is "arming Greece" crosses out your dubious assumptions.
2. Another stupidity - "Turkey is only useful for NATO as long as it plays for NATO and not for itself. If, for example, they are moving closer to Russia (for example, to solve their energy crisis and 90 percent inflation) , they lose that utility." - Turkey considers itself a regional leader (deservedly), for which Russia is only a raw material appendage, and a local enemy, in its Turkish territories, which are of interest to Turkey. And with which she does not intend to reckon, which she has shown more than once. Before the new year, you will see how Turkey will show "its weight" in the region, after the expected failure by Russia to fulfill its promises to Turkey.
Cooperation with NATO is also useful and beneficial for Turkey, because Turkey is a much more profitable partner for NATO than Greece. Even despite some disagreements with the United States. Turkey is a pragmatist, not a populist or a liar and a coward like Russia. Turkey will find a compromise of interests with the US and NATO as a whole.

[Sithara007]

The Europeans can't handle the level of negative public opinion against the dictatorship that brutally murdered a reporter. Besides the plan for the Saudis were another NATO which is commonly known as "Arabic NATO" that would have consist of a dozen countries in West Asia to form an alliance to act as a proxy between US and Iran to fight instead of US!
It never got anywhere though which is a very funny story

Human rights have gone for a toss at the moment, as both the US and EU are racing to secure energy supplies. And that is the reason why Biden went to Saudi Arabia with a begging bowl in hand. But then the Saudis snubbed Biden and rather than increasing their production, they actually decreased the output quotas. Same with Qatar as well. They bluntly told the Germans that if they want Qatari gas, then they need to enter in to long-term partnerships stretching for 20 years. Makes perfect sense, as the EU wants to phase out fossil fuel usage in the medium term.

[pooya87]

Human rights have gone for a toss at the moment, as both the US and EU are racing to secure energy supplies. And that is the reason why Biden went to Saudi Arabia with a begging bowl in hand. But then the Saudis snubbed Biden and rather than increasing their production, they actually decreased the output quotas. Same with Qatar as well. They bluntly told the Germans that if they want Qatari gas, then they need to enter in to long-term partnerships stretching for 20 years. Makes perfect sense, as the EU wants to phase out fossil fuel usage in the medium term.

US has been using Arabs (mainly Saudis) for decades to manipulate the energy market. After all that is the whole idea behind "petrodollar". They print more dollars out of thin air which causes inflation but to export it to other countries they have to order Saudis to increase oil price so that other countries have to "buy more USD" to be able to afford same amount of oil they used to import. But at the same time high energy price causes inflation and/or recession in US so they have to order Saudis to reduce the energy price soon by increasing their production, that way they control inflation and recession in America while the rest of the world suffered from inflation (ie. US exported inflation).

These days that plan no longer works simply because there is a war going on between Eastern bloc and Western bloc. This means if Saudis (or any of the others) try to play the same game as before means a country located in Eastern Bloc is playing a Western game and it would have to face dire consequences from the whole bloc.

Qatar is already very close to Iran and that means they are playing with the regional hegemony.
They Saudis are also whipped into accepting the hegemony. They are also prevented from playing their old game. Russia has already warned them. China has already warned them and has promised to buy their oil. Iran has already sent enough messages to let them know whose the buss.

The tensions are also rising in the energy rich region too since the West is getting more desperate. Remember I talked about the Yemen resources being stolen? The armed forces of Yemen are already getting busy, they've already shot warning shots towards the facilities stealing their oil and recently they took one step further and directly attacked a tanker trying to steal their oil. Another tanker was hit in Oman sea and another British ship was scared of after it saw the swarm of drones above its head.

Another tension is increasing in the separatist occupied Northern Iraq and Syria (oil and gas rich). As I said Turkey is once again trying to prove to be useful for NATO. They are trying to annex part of Syria and Iraq that are gas and oil rich to steal those resources and export it to EU. Specially since their plan to "delete" Armenia and connect to Caspian sea (another energy rich source) for NATO failed miserably after armed forces of Iran crossed the border into Armenia for protection.
Iran + Iraq + resistance armies are already planning to enter and take full control of these regions preventing the Turkish plans while clearing it from terrorist cells that includes the US military bases in the region one of which was already hit hard over the past month in our constant bombardment of the terrorist positions.
It's interesting to see how all this going to unfold (since we are avoiding any major conflict in the entire region) and how it would affect energy prices over the coming month or two.

[Sithara007]

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Another tension is increasing in the separatist occupied Northern Iraq and Syria (oil and gas rich). As I said Turkey is once again trying to prove to be useful for NATO. They are trying to annex part of Syria and Iraq that are gas and oil rich to steal those resources and export it to EU. Specially since their plan to "delete" Armenia and connect to Caspian sea (another energy rich source) for NATO failed miserably after armed forces of Iran crossed the border into Armenia for protection.
Iran + Iraq + resistance armies are already planning to enter and take full control of these regions preventing the Turkish plans while clearing it from terrorist cells that includes the US military bases in the region one of which was already hit hard over the past month in our constant bombardment of the terrorist positions.

This is a very interesting scenario. Turkey has opened multiple fronts in the region. First they tried to annex the Southern provinces of Armenia proper, and now they are invading border regions of Iraq and Syria. Russia is embroiled in Ukraine war and can't defend its allies in either of these two regions. So it is up to Iran to offer support to the anti-Turkish parties. Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is still dreaming about Greater Turania, which will include all of Central Asia, Caucasus, Siberia, Mongolia and Northern parts of China.

[Sang Prabu]

The impact of the Russian War which is almost a year is certainly very pronounced, the global economy becomes problematic because it is disturbed supply from a country that is in war, especially the threat of war that can extend to Europe makes many people afraid of the current situation. And the thing that is most directly affected by war is economic conditions.

[pooya87]

This is a very interesting scenario. Turkey has opened multiple fronts in the region. First they tried to annex the Southern provinces of Armenia proper, and now they are invading border regions of Iraq and Syria. Russia is embroiled in Ukraine war and can't defend its allies in either of these two regions. So it is up to Iran to offer support to the anti-Turkish parties. Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is still dreaming about Greater Turania, which will include all of Central Asia, Caucasus, Siberia, Mongolia and Northern parts of China.

The worst part is that Erdoğan is biting the hand that fed him! He has forgotten that when there was a coup in Turkey trying to eliminate him we brought him to Iran for protection then our intelligence service simply neutralized the coup and brought him back to Turkey and the seat of power. He is like a tiny child who is punching his parents in the knee.

As for his "Great Turkistan", it's a dream he has to take to the grave. The plan is already failed in all regions whether in Armenia or Tajikistan and other regions in its route where we have entered and armed them to prevent Turkish invasion...

[Smartprofit]

This is a very interesting scenario. Turkey has opened multiple fronts in the region. First they tried to annex the Southern provinces of Armenia proper, and now they are invading border regions of Iraq and Syria. Russia is embroiled in Ukraine war and can't defend its allies in either of these two regions. So it is up to Iran to offer support to the anti-Turkish parties. Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is still dreaming about Greater Turania, which will include all of Central Asia, Caucasus, Siberia, Mongolia and Northern parts of China.

The worst part is that Erdoğan is biting the hand that fed him! He has forgotten that when there was a coup in Turkey trying to eliminate him we brought him to Iran for protection then our intelligence service simply neutralized the coup and brought him back to Turkey and the seat of power. He is like a tiny child who is punching his parents in the knee.

As for his "Great Turkistan", it's a dream he has to take to the grave. The plan is already failed in all regions whether in Armenia or Tajikistan and other regions in its route where we have entered and armed them to prevent Turkish invasion...

In my opinion, in this situation, the country that implements the most adequate foreign policy will win. 

Turkey, in my opinion, is becoming more and more authoritarian. 

This is due to the fight against the Turkish opposition.  The Turkish opposition sought to introduce its people as much as possible into all government bodies (including the army). 

However, at present, Erdogan is pursuing a fairly adequate foreign policy.  It seeks not to fight, but to cooperate with all its geopolitical neighbors.  The reconstruction of the Turkish Empire is a very ambitious plan.  It will be very difficult to implement it. 

Nevertheless, Erdogan's cunning, intelligence, composure and patience contribute to the implementation of this plan.

[gabbie2010]

The impact of the russia vs ukraine war is of course very heavy because it is almost a year of war and there is no sign of ending, for the economy of course russia and ukraine are 2 important countries because they are supplying countries for oil, gas and so on, when the war of course disrupts the supply of the 2 countries .

My country depends solely on diesel imported from Russia in fueling heavy duty trucks, Generators and Buses however due to the Russian and Ukrainian conflict the price of diesel had skyrocketed because the importers had to source for alternative means consequently this  had increases the cost of production which resulted to high cost of goods and services, some companies had shut down because of high running cost while others downsized their work force, I am urging the warring countries to dialogue and allow peace to reign when it is achieved the global economy will recover.

[pooya87]

In my opinion, in this situation, the country that implements the most adequate foreign policy will win. 

They first have to find the hegemony and align themselves with it then try to "win". The problem is Turkey wanted to become a hegemony, they spent a lot in Syria, supported ISIS by buying oil from this terrorist organization at $7 a barrel, helped attack Armenia, destabilized Tajikistan, and a lot more but failed in all of their plans simply because they weren't powerful enough.
Now they refuse to accept the reality and accept the West Asia's hegemony, Iran. So they can't win... hence the 90% inflation rate... hence the unrest... hence the energy crisis...

However, at present, Erdogan is pursuing a fairly adequate foreign policy.  It seeks not to fight, but to cooperate with all its geopolitical neighbors.

I disagree. We've already warned him about starting a war in Syria and their other "adventures" elsewhere but he didn't listen. He still insist on invading Syria and Armenia.

The reconstruction of the Turkish Empire is a very ambitious plan.  It will be very difficult to implement it. 

It is impossible as long as the revived Persian Empire is on its way

Nevertheless, Erdogan's cunning, intelligence, composure and patience contribute to the implementation of this plan.

These characteristics are true about a politician who knows both his strength and weaknesses instead of having delusions about his strengths and ignores his weaknesses altogether.

[Lambe Ndumble]

War has occurred for more than 9 months and the two countries claims to win, Russia is increasingly aggressive and resistance from Ukraine also continues, countless victims of life and treasure, and greater impact is to restore the condition of Ukraine, of course it takes a long time, and this be a warning to the world that war can occur at any time.

[DrBeer]

War has occurred for more than 9 months and the two countries claims to win, Russia is increasingly aggressive and resistance from Ukraine also continues, countless victims of life and treasure, and greater impact is to restore the condition of Ukraine, of course it takes a long time, and this be a warning to the world that war can occur at any time.

A little wrong. Russia finally threw off the "suit" of a fighter for the rights of the Russian-speaking population, and openly declared - we just want to destroy Ukraine, because ... Because we want to destroy it. And for this we will use all the methods that are in the arsenal of terrorists. We do not care about moral, ethical, humanitarian norms. we are losing the conventional war to Ukraine, so we are switching to pure terrorism.

And this means that if this cancer on the body of the world is not stopped and destroyed, it will continue its terrorist concept and the destruction of the rest, the adequate world. The choice is for all of us - to be destroyed or to destroy the international evil. The choice is obvious... at least for us, the inhabitants of Ukraine.