The impact of Russian and Ukrain war on world economy

[Argoo]

If NATO troops had fought on the side of Ukraine, this war would have ended with Russia's defeat long ago. Ukraine receives various types of assistance in defending its sovereignty and territorial integrity from many states, including NATO members, but this assistance, especially weapons and military equipment, is very weak and does not allow Ukraine to achieve a relatively quick victory over the aggressor that attacked it.

But Russia has nuclear weapons and that's why NATO can't help it. NATO is much powerful than Russia and if Russia is about to lose, then what's there to stop it from using Nuclear Weapons? Imagine you have a bomb and 5 guys are beating you to death, won't you use the bomb to kill yourself and your enemies? You are dying anyway, so why should you leave your enemies alive when you have the chance to die with including them?

And now an interesting question - who is Ukraine fighting with now? Because Russia does not have enough strength to seize the relatively small Ukraine, it uses elite units of the North Korean troops on the battlefield against Ukraine, as well as armored vehicles, air defense systems and millions of shells from North Korea. Therefore, in fact, there is a war between Russia and North Korea against Ukraine.

Elite units of North Korea? Elite? They are as Elite as Russian troops.

Your comparison with the guys beating up is a bit unfortunate. The thing is that even if Russia loses this war, it will not mean death for its citizens or the country's elite. It will only mean actual death for the instigators of the war, and there are still various other options for them. For Russia itself, if it does not disintegrate into many independent states, this will be a good chance to pursue a different policy and a chance to eventually join the civilized states. Therefore, sensible people will not grab a nuclear club. Otherwise, the preparation for the use of nuclear weapons will definitely become known to the intelligence services of the world's states and then a preventive non-nuclear strike will be carried out on Russia and in this case physical death for many will become real.

As for the use of North Korean troops in the war against Ukraine, they showed themselves poorly only at the first stage, using the tactics of the Second World War, when the infantry went on the attack in large units. But they learn quickly and in the latest battles have already proven themselves to be a serious opponent. In addition, North Korean soldiers are very physically resilient, shoot accurately with small arms, are fearless and almost never surrender, preferring death. During the fighting, only a few North Korean soldiers were captured by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and only because they were wounded. There is information that all the relatives of those captured by the Ukrainian Armed Forces in North Korea were shot.

[CryptoBuds]

In fact, you confirm my words that there were and are no NATO troops on the territory of Ukraine. If regular NATO troops are not waging a war with Russia on the territory of Ukraine, then on what basis do you think that this is a war between NATO and Russia?
There are two possible scenarios here: the war between NATO and Russia is not taking place on the territory of Ukraine, or the war is not being waged by military actions, but is being waged economically, technologically, or some other way. Please clarify your position.

By now, everything has become very clear but you still don't want to admit that Ukraine is just a pawn on the NATO chessboard. I think no matter what I say, our argument will never end.

The possibility of introducing NATO troops into Ukraine as peacekeeping forces is currently being discussed in Europe. Great Britain is ready to send at least 10,000 of its troops to Ukraine, and France, Germany, and a number of other countries are also ready to introduce their troops, placing them in Kyiv, Lvov, and Odessa. In the event of a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine, these forces should deter Russia from a new invasion.

https://www.ukr.net/ru/news/details/politics/110180072.html

https://glavred.info/war/skolko-mirotvorcev-strany-soyuzniki-napravyat-v-ukrainu-starmer-nazval-cifry-10647746.html

Europe? They were not even invited and attended the peace talks organized between Russia and the United States. So such news just makes the story more interesting but leads nowhere, they can't do anything without asking for permission and getting permission from the US.

I think there will be no more war between Russia and Ukraine in the future when the peace deal between Trump and Putin is announced and the conflict ends. Because both Russia and the United States have achieved what they wanted.

After all, small countries are just pawns on the chessboard of big countries. Small countries can hardly decide their own destiny.

[Argoo]

In fact, you confirm my words that there were and are no NATO troops on the territory of Ukraine. If regular NATO troops are not waging a war with Russia on the territory of Ukraine, then on what basis do you think that this is a war between NATO and Russia?
There are two possible scenarios here: the war between NATO and Russia is not taking place on the territory of Ukraine, or the war is not being waged by military actions, but is being waged economically, technologically, or some other way. Please clarify your position.

By now, everything has become very clear but you still don't want to admit that Ukraine is just a pawn on the NATO chessboard. I think no matter what I say, our argument will never end.

The possibility of introducing NATO troops into Ukraine as peacekeeping forces is currently being discussed in Europe. Great Britain is ready to send at least 10,000 of its troops to Ukraine, and France, Germany, and a number of other countries are also ready to introduce their troops, placing them in Kyiv, Lvov, and Odessa. In the event of a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine, these forces should deter Russia from a new invasion.

https://www.ukr.net/ru/news/details/politics/110180072.html

https://glavred.info/war/skolko-mirotvorcev-strany-soyuzniki-napravyat-v-ukrainu-starmer-nazval-cifry-10647746.html

Europe? They were not even invited and attended the peace talks organized between Russia and the United States. So such news just makes the story more interesting but leads nowhere, they can't do anything without asking for permission and getting permission from the US.

I think there will be no more war between Russia and Ukraine in the future when the peace deal between Trump and Putin is announced and the conflict ends. Because both Russia and the United States have achieved what they wanted.

After all, small countries are just pawns on the chessboard of big countries. Small countries can hardly decide their own destiny.

You see, you have no worthy arguments to prove that the current war in Ukraine is a NATO war against Russia. This myth was invented in the Kremlin to somehow explain Russia's heavy defeat by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the battlefield.

However, global changes are currently taking place in NATO due to the fact that Trump is moving away from the principles of NATO's functioning and even threatening to leave this alliance. In this regard, the role of NATO has begun to diminish and in its place another defensive military alliance may emerge, led by European countries, where Ukraine will play a significant role with its technological solutions in the field of unmanned systems, missile programs, invaluable military experience and a significant army.

What Trump and Putin decide between themselves without European countries and Ukraine will have no consequences for them and they have already directly stated this. Trump is sharply moving away from democratic values and, following Putin, wants to make an empire out of the United States. He will not succeed, so in the near future we may see that due to the influence of external factors, he may leave the presidential chair.

[Synchronice]

Your comparison with the guys beating up is a bit unfortunate. The thing is that even if Russia loses this war, it will not mean death for its citizens or the country's elite. It will only mean actual death for the instigators of the war, and there are still various other options for them. For Russia itself, if it does not disintegrate into many independent states, this will be a good chance to pursue a different policy and a chance to eventually join the civilized states. Therefore, sensible people will not grab a nuclear club. Otherwise, the preparation for the use of nuclear weapons will definitely become known to the intelligence services of the world's states and then a preventive non-nuclear strike will be carried out on Russia and in this case physical death for many will become real.

If Russia loses this war, why won't they use nuclear weapons with full force before they die? Putin is old, he is dying and probably many KGB elites are old too. I think we all agree that they aren't sane (no politician is sane) and they have impearialistic dreams, I feel they think like either we get all or nothing, which is crazy. If the world doesn't stop Russia, Russia will stop the world, it's inevitable. Sadly, we fail to stop Russia because Putin is absolutely on another level inside the Russia, words simply can't describe what system this man built, he is immortal, there is no billionaire or any human in Russia that can stand against him, it's probably something that we haven't seen before.

[serveria.com]

In fact, you confirm my words that there were and are no NATO troops on the territory of Ukraine. If regular NATO troops are not waging a war with Russia on the territory of Ukraine, then on what basis do you think that this is a war between NATO and Russia?
There are two possible scenarios here: the war between NATO and Russia is not taking place on the territory of Ukraine, or the war is not being waged by military actions, but is being waged economically, technologically, or some other way. Please clarify your position.

There are lots of NATO troops in Ukraine, including experts processing intelligence data, instructors training AFU troops, hi-tech equipment (HIMARS etc) operators, "mercenaries" (in fact actual military from NATO armies, later found "killed in a skiing accident")...    

The possibility of introducing NATO troops into Ukraine as peacekeeping forces is currently being discussed in Europe. Great Britain is ready to send at least 10,000 of its troops to Ukraine, and France, Germany, and a number of other countries are also ready to introduce their troops, placing them in Kyiv, Lvov, and Odessa. In the event of a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine, these forces should deter Russia from a new invasion.

https://www.ukr.net/ru/news/details/politics/110180072.html

https://glavred.info/war/skolko-mirotvorcev-strany-soyuzniki-napravyat-v-ukrainu-starmer-nazval-cifry-10647746.html

You understand it yourself that it's not going to happen. NATO troops located on Ukrainian soil will make them legitimate targets for Russian forces. Which can potentially lead to WW3 and Russia nuking European capitals London, Paris etc. And please stop quoting UA propaganda media outlets.

So, in other news, the Kursk operation has ended exactly like I have predicted and even worse: 70000 elite forces dead, thousands of vehicles destroyed (about 500-600 abandoned and captured by the Russians).      

[WillyAp]

So, in other news, the Kursk operation has ended exactly like I have predicted and even worse: 70000 elite forces dead, thousands of vehicles destroyed (about 500-600 abandoned and captured by the Russians).      

Well surprisingly,  20 000 more dead than actually were involved. According to Wikipedia 50 000 soldiers were involved.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk_offensive_(2024%E2%80%93present)

[CryptoBuds]

You see, you have no worthy arguments to prove that the current war in Ukraine is a NATO war against Russia. This myth was invented in the Kremlin to somehow explain Russia's heavy defeat by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the battlefield.

The United States is the leader of NATO and if this is not a war between NATO and Russia. Why are peace talks taking place mainly between the two negotiating teams of the United States and Russia, Trump and Putin? Why does Ukraine always call for any peace talks to include Europe and the United States? As I said: the EU and Ukraine did not even participate in the first peace talks in Saudi Arabia. It's not hard to see that and it's as clear as day but some people don't want to admit it.

However, global changes are currently taking place in NATO due to the fact that Trump is moving away from the principles of NATO's functioning and even threatening to leave this alliance. In this regard, the role of NATO has begun to diminish and in its place another defensive military alliance may emerge, led by European countries, where Ukraine will play a significant role with its technological solutions in the field of unmanned systems, missile programs, invaluable military experience and a significant army.

NATO without the US is like a headless snake.
I bet the end result is that the EU will have to accept more defense spending (3-5% of GDP) instead of letting the US pay the bulk of the cost as before. The EU is so weak that it can never escape the embrace of the United States and could collapse if it stopped depending on them.

What Trump and Putin decide between themselves without European countries and Ukraine will have no consequences for them and they have already directly stated this. Trump is sharply moving away from democratic values and, following Putin, wants to make an empire out of the United States. He will not succeed, so in the near future we may see that due to the influence of external factors, he may leave the presidential chair.

The phone call between Trump and Putin is said to be very positive, and it doesn't matter what Europe and Zelensky think or want. The war will soon end with a handshake and a nod between Trump and Putin.

[pooya87]

The phone call between Trump and Putin is said to be very positive, and it doesn't matter what Europe and Zelensky think or want. The war will soon end with a handshake and a nod between Trump and Putin.

One can only hope to see the bloodshed to end but it is still unlikely.

From what has come out of their negotiations we can see that US regime is just trying to buy time, which is why they are trying to push for a short term (30 days) ceasefire instead of a long term peace. They just want to regroup, rearm and force Europeans to spend more on weapons they send to Ukraine and then continue this proxy war with Russia a couple of more years.

Russian demands haven't changed either. Namely stopping NATO expansion and removal of sanctions. Neither one of these are going to happen. For example the US regime is not going to lose the European market for their expensive LNG to cheap Russian gas by removing sanctions. As Biden said before blowing up Nord Stream pipeline they'll never allow Germany and others to buy Russian gas. Hence the deindustrialization of Europe...

[Argoo]

The phone call between Trump and Putin is said to be very positive, and it doesn't matter what Europe and Zelensky think or want. The war will soon end with a handshake and a nod between Trump and Putin.

The war in Ukraine cannot end without the participation of Ukraine and Europe, unless, of course, Russia withdraws its occupation troops from Ukrainian territory. All other conditions for ending the war will require the consent of Ukraine and the EU, regardless of what Trump and Putin agree on.

According to media reports, Trump was very disappointed with the telephone conversation with Putin. That is why he refused to hold a press conference, since there is nothing victorious to report. Trump hoped that Putin would agree to a full-fledged ceasefire for 30 days, which Ukraine and the United States proposed, but Putin only agreed to a ceasefire on energy infrastructure facilities, but in this case he demands that Ukraine stop mobilizing and rearming the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Moreover, this means stopping any military supplies and the transfer of intelligence.

In other words, Putin refused to stop hostilities for 30 days and, as always, at the same time puts forward demands that Ukraine cannot fulfill.

The US predicts further negotiations between representatives of the parties on March 23 in Jeddah, but so far there is no end to the war in Ukraine in sight. Today, Russia attacked Ukraine with 6 missiles and 145 drones, Ukraine, in turn, hit another oil refinery in the city of Kropotkin in the Krasnodar region of Russia.

[DrBeer]

In fact, you confirm my words that there were and are no NATO troops on the territory of Ukraine. If regular NATO troops are not waging a war with Russia on the territory of Ukraine, then on what basis do you think that this is a war between NATO and Russia?
There are two possible scenarios here: the war between NATO and Russia is not taking place on the territory of Ukraine, or the war is not being waged by military actions, but is being waged economically, technologically, or some other way. Please clarify your position.

By now, everything has become very clear but you still don't want to admit that Ukraine is just a pawn on the NATO chessboard. I think no matter what I say, our argument will never end.

Sorry to interfere, but as a citizen of Ukraine, I'm just very much interested in where such “ideas” as the one you mentioned that “Ukraine is a pawn in the NATO game” come from. I will be very grateful to you if you explain this idea, logically of course, with facts, real events, dates, documents ? Tell us - when it started and how it was realized by NATO ?

[serveria.com]

In fact, you confirm my words that there were and are no NATO troops on the territory of Ukraine. If regular NATO troops are not waging a war with Russia on the territory of Ukraine, then on what basis do you think that this is a war between NATO and Russia?
There are two possible scenarios here: the war between NATO and Russia is not taking place on the territory of Ukraine, or the war is not being waged by military actions, but is being waged economically, technologically, or some other way. Please clarify your position.

By now, everything has become very clear but you still don't want to admit that Ukraine is just a pawn on the NATO chessboard. I think no matter what I say, our argument will never end.

Sorry to interfere, but as a citizen of Ukraine, I'm just very much interested in where such “ideas” as the one you mentioned that “Ukraine is a pawn in the NATO game” come from. I will be very grateful to you if you explain this idea, logically of course, with facts, real events, dates, documents ? Tell us - when it started and how it was realized by NATO ?

My time to interfere: I will provide everything you ask, after you will explain (preferably with some real proof) why as a citizen of Ukraine you are still posting on this forum instead of fighting for you Motherland in the trenches in Donbas? You keep shitposting here all through the war, for several years already, so once again: why are you not protecting your beloved Ukraine? Coward? Paraplegic? Retarded? No, obviously not retarded, because retarded people are being drafted into the military in Ukraine, it's completely normal.    So, we are waiting: why are you still posting from the safety of your home? Enlighten us.

[Abiky]

The war in Ukraine cannot end without the participation of Ukraine and Europe, unless, of course, Russia withdraws its occupation troops from Ukrainian territory. All other conditions for ending the war will require the consent of Ukraine and the EU, regardless of what Trump and Putin agree on.

According to media reports, Trump was very disappointed with the telephone conversation with Putin. That is why he refused to hold a press conference, since there is nothing victorious to report. Trump hoped that Putin would agree to a full-fledged ceasefire for 30 days, which Ukraine and the United States proposed, but Putin only agreed to a ceasefire on energy infrastructure facilities, but in this case he demands that Ukraine stop mobilizing and rearming the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Moreover, this means stopping any military supplies and the transfer of intelligence.

In other words, Putin refused to stop hostilities for 30 days and, as always, at the same time puts forward demands that Ukraine cannot fulfill.

The US predicts further negotiations between representatives of the parties on March 23 in Jeddah, but so far there is no end to the war in Ukraine in sight. Today, Russia attacked Ukraine with 6 missiles and 145 drones, Ukraine, in turn, hit another oil refinery in the city of Kropotkin in the Krasnodar region of Russia.

I'm afraid so. Europe will end up defending Ukraine against Russia. My guess is that EU countries will arm Ukraine with nuclear weapons to establish peace between the two countries. Putting some sort of "peacekeepers" will ensure a ceasefire deal will be long-lasting. It's the only solution to help end this mess.

If nothing is done, Russia's Vladimir Putin will continue to escalate the situation until it invades other countries which were once part of the Soviet Union (Georgia, the Baltic States, Finland, etc). The world doesn't want to see another USSR in the future. I hope President Trump settles a deal between Russia and Ukraine before Europe does. Otherwise, it will mark the end of the USA as the world's leading superpower. For the world economy to recover, there must be no wars of any kind. Let's see what happens in the future. Just my two sats.

[pooya87]

For the world economy to recover, there must be no wars of any kind.

That's right but the problem is that for the US economy to recover there needs to be more wars in the world so that they can do two things:
1. Sell more weapons and earn money from that sale and the money they'll earn from the aftermath (eg. taking over Ukraine's valuable resources)
2. Destroy everyone else's economy so that they can remain ahead. Kina like greasing the pole behind!

[DrBeer]

In fact, you confirm my words that there were and are no NATO troops on the territory of Ukraine. If regular NATO troops are not waging a war with Russia on the territory of Ukraine, then on what basis do you think that this is a war between NATO and Russia?
There are two possible scenarios here: the war between NATO and Russia is not taking place on the territory of Ukraine, or the war is not being waged by military actions, but is being waged economically, technologically, or some other way. Please clarify your position.

By now, everything has become very clear but you still don't want to admit that Ukraine is just a pawn on the NATO chessboard. I think no matter what I say, our argument will never end.

Sorry to interfere, but as a citizen of Ukraine, I'm just very much interested in where such “ideas” as the one you mentioned that “Ukraine is a pawn in the NATO game” come from. I will be very grateful to you if you explain this idea, logically of course, with facts, real events, dates, documents ? Tell us - when it started and how it was realized by NATO ?

My time to interfere: I will provide everything you ask, after you will explain (preferably with some real proof) why as a citizen of Ukraine you are still posting on this forum instead of fighting for you Motherland in the trenches in Donbas? You keep shitposting here all through the war, for several years already, so once again: why are you not protecting your beloved Ukraine? Coward? Paraplegic? Retarded? No, obviously not retarded, because retarded people are being drafted into the military in Ukraine, it's completely normal.    So, we are waiting: why are you still posting from the safety of your home? Enlighten us.

Oh again the lone clown show with the methodology from the Kremlin 
Haven't heard your stupid throw-ins in a long time

I answer - from the beginning of 2022 to the end of 2022, I served in Zaporozhye direction in one of the brigades formed from the territorial defense, after the wounding I was demobilized. And you know it very well, because I have already told you about it many times, but you are like a parrot with the memory of a guppie fish, every time you try to throw this “question” again and again . Now I help to provide the liberation units of the AFU with means to destroy the brown plague of Rashism. I answered your question EVERY SINGLE time.
Well, now I let you answer my question, if the one to whom I asked it, expectedly can not answer it .
Let's hear your next attempt to present your morbid marasmus of Kremlin propaganda as “truth” ! I let you, I look forward to this funny show !

PS Just don't forget - links to lying Kremlin MPIs are not a source of evidence. References to Ukrainian legislative base, to official resources, if you don't have such - just admit that you are a pathetic translator of Kremlin propaganda and you have no other sources of “information” except for it.

PS more than sure that in response will not be cited a single official document, but will be again a bunch of lies and fakes from the Kremlin media and their underlings, but not a single fact. However - it has always been like that with you

[Argoo]

So, in other news, the Kursk operation has ended exactly like I have predicted and even worse: 70000 elite forces dead, thousands of vehicles destroyed (about 500-600 abandoned and captured by the Russians).      

The Ukrainian Armed Forces are still present in the Kursk region of Russia, although they currently control a relatively small area. Recently, the best units of the Russian Federation have been deployed there, and there were so many Russian drones on fiber optics that the Ukrainian Armed Forces decided to retreat to more advantageous positions and not lose soldiers and equipment. The figures you cited for Ukrainian Armed Forces losses in the Kursk region are greatly exaggerated. I will only say that Russia lost more there, although not many times more.

At the same time, on March 19, the Ukrainian Armed Forces attacked the neighboring Belgorod region of Russia, broke through the defenses and went about 12 kilometers into this region. This is primarily a war of strategies, and Ukraine is very inventive in this regard.

https://www.dsnews.ua/politics/rosiyski-voyenkori-povidomili-shcho-zsu-zayshli-ta-zakripilisya-v-demidivci-na-byelgorodshchini-20032025-518831

https://www.dialog.ua/war/311245_1742532510

[Synchronice]

The phone call between Trump and Putin is said to be very positive, and it doesn't matter what Europe and Zelensky think or want. The war will soon end with a handshake and a nod between Trump and Putin.

One can only hope to see the bloodshed to end but it is still unlikely.

From what has come out of their negotiations we can see that US regime is just trying to buy time, which is why they are trying to push for a short term (30 days) ceasefire instead of a long term peace. They just want to regroup, rearm and force Europeans to spend more on weapons they send to Ukraine and then continue this proxy war with Russia a couple of more years.

Russian demands haven't changed either. Namely stopping NATO expansion and removal of sanctions. Neither one of these are going to happen. For example the US regime is not going to lose the European market for their expensive LNG to cheap Russian gas by removing sanctions. As Biden said before blowing up Nord Stream pipeline they'll never allow Germany and others to buy Russian gas. Hence the deindustrialization of Europe...

It's time for EU-US separation. EU shouldn't accept refugees, EU shouldn't provide free meals and healthcare for them but EU should deport lots of migrants, those who bring no good to our countries but it should leave those who are very hard working and/or highly skilled workers. EU should make it easy for hard working and talented people to come in EU and start work (today it makes very easy for criminals to come here and live freely but it's hard for honest, hard-working people). EU should try to separate from US and continue developing. It's clear that US didn't let EU to develop well and lots of dumb mistakes were made here. EU should heavily invest in tech and renewable energy, in science and education and then EU countries will be a heavenly good place to live.

By the way, this bloodshed will not stop easily. Russia demands from Ukraine to give up on its large part of territories, never join NATO and Putin will also probably demand from Ukraine to not join EU. I think it's clear now that this war is not only about I'm afraid of NATO near my boarders, Putin wants to revive the Soviet Union.

[DrBeer]

....
By the way, this bloodshed will not stop easily. Russia demands from Ukraine to give up on its large part of territories, never join NATO and Putin will also probably demand from Ukraine to not join EU. I think it's clear now that this war is not only about I'm afraid of NATO near my boarders, Putin wants to revive the Soviet Union.

If a criminal and maniac create conditions for the realization of his complexes - he will not rest, and will continue. If obligations and laws are not fulfilled - the criminal takes advantage of it! In 2014, everyone “forgot” about the Budapest Memorandum. When Rashism will come to Europe - everyone will suddenly remember about the 5th article of NATO .... But it will be too late - the world will have already shown the terrorist and maniac that treaties and promises are worthless.... But war and destruction will already be in the homes of Europeans ... So there will be Taiwan and other countries that counted on security treaties. And the reason is banal - terrorists don't look at laws, rights, duties.....
Believe me - if Ukraine falls, then there will be Baltic States and Poland, which Putin hates to the teeth - because they are not afraid to speak and show the truth about Rashism and Kremlin's crazy Fuhrer. Plus they remember the bloody crimes of the USSR against their countries and peoples, they remember who started the second world war together with Hitler. Then they destroyed Nazism, but did not destroy Rashism and let it germinate. Remember history, the conclusions are simple - either the cancerous tumor of Rashism will be destroyed, or the cancer will destroy the world, as Nazism almost did in the 40s of the last century.

[WillyAp]

My time to interfere: I will provide everything you ask, after you will explain (preferably with some real proof) why as a citizen of Ukraine you are still posting on this forum instead of fighting for you Motherland in the trenches in Donbas?

Are you fighting and post the comments from the front-line?
Which you should, as you brought up that request. 

[serveria.com]

My time to interfere: I will provide everything you ask, after you will explain (preferably with some real proof) why as a citizen of Ukraine you are still posting on this forum instead of fighting for you Motherland in the trenches in Donbas?

Are you fighting and post the comments from the front-line?
Which you should, as you brought up that request. 

No, I should not. I'm not Russian. I'm not Ukrainian either. So why should I take part in this conflict? It's the same as me asking you (or any random person on Bitcointalk): why are you not fighting in Ukraine? 

[pooya87]

EU should heavily invest in tech and renewable energy, in science and education and then EU countries will be a heavenly good place to live.

Good luck with that as long as US regime exists. Because they'll not allow any country to really grow since they count it as a threat (China is the best example!). And for the foreseeable future the orders coming down from Washington is to redirect all those investments into military to continue the proxy war with Russia...