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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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April 25, 2023, 11:41:50 AM
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Last season, Manchester City was also very favored against Real Madrid and maybe what made the difference this time for Manchester City was that they had Haaland in the starting line-up. I admit that Haaland is a monster for any top European team at the moment, including Real Madrid. It's just that even though Manchester City has Haaland it doesn't mean they can guarantee victory. While Real Madrid's squad is still the same as last season, maybe what's different is that some of the young Los Blancos players are now starting to process being better than last season and all Real Madrid players have a winning mentality throughout the season. But for Manchester City, even though they have extraordinary squad depth, they still don't have a winning mentality so far. Maybe it's Manchester City's shortcomings until now that have made them often fail to win the Champions League trophy for the first time.
I'm sure Guardiola will put pressure on their team to be able to win the game in the first leg so that Madrid doesn't have a chance to comeback, marid has a winning mentality sometimes they always surprise in the last minutes so Manchester City needs to play pressing at the start to create a lot goals through Haaland where he is a Manchester City goal machine who is very prolific in scoring goals while playing in Manchester City.

Haaland et al will certainly play as much as possible to avenge them last season which made Manchester City fail to reach the UCL final, the meeting between the two is eagerly awaited because this will be a good match to watch and many eyes will be on this match, I know madrid has a winning mentality but i'm sure this season's UCL belongs to manchester city.

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April 25, 2023, 12:20:12 PM
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I think whoever gets to the final from the Man City vs Real tie will win the trophy. The two Italian teams really aren't that good. I mean they’re 4th and 6th in Serie A.

I think it’s Man City’s year but this is Real’s playground, will be a fascinating watch.

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April 25, 2023, 12:38:21 PM
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I think whoever gets to the final from the Man City vs Real tie will win the trophy. The two Italian teams really aren't that good. I mean they’re 4th and 6th in Serie A.

I think it’s Man City’s year but this is Real’s playground, will be a fascinating watch.

I am sure that none of the teams takes it as easy as you describe it here. If your implied assumption would hold any substance, how in the world did those two teams make it to the semifinals anyway? Names and ranks don't count so much anymore. Tottenham kicked out Manchester City in 2019 in the quarterfinals when nobody expected it at all.

The team winning the game between Real Madrid and Manchester City is going to be the favorite, but they have been the favorites right from the start, so nothing really changes. The final is also just a single game. There is no possibility to make up for mistakes or unlucky events of any kind. In a one game situation anything can happen.

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April 25, 2023, 12:52:52 PM
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I think whoever gets to the final from the Man City vs Real tie will win the trophy. The two Italian teams really aren't that good. I mean they’re 4th and 6th in Serie A.
I think it’s Man City’s year but this is Real’s playground, will be a fascinating watch.

I definitely agree with everyone in here that is saying that Manchester City is the strongest team in this season and therefore the big favorite to win the Champions League this year, BUT that was also already the case in the last year and the year before that but still they were not able to win that competition yet. I think that Pep Guardiola sometimes wants to make to special things when playing those very big matches like the semi-final or the final of the CL. He overcomplicates the game than and makes it harder for his team. He should just let them play as usual and they have a very high chance to win it this year.
Of course Real Madrid is still a very dangerous opponent and you also need luck, momentum and so on.
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April 25, 2023, 01:22:12 PM
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I can't wait to see how Haaland is going to perform against Real Madrid because Haaland is a player with strong attacking powers while Real Madrid they have strong defenders too, in the other hand Karim Benzema can be a hope for Real Madrid. On one side we have Real Madrid with Karim Benzema and the other side has Haaland I think Haaland got better luck against Real Madrid to score goals.

Benzema is even better compared with haaland. If we are seeing based on the history and benzema has ever won ballon d'or as the best striker. It's not only benzema. You shall remember that if there are so many players in madrid who have same capability to make the goals. Valverde, rodrygo, Vini and many more. I remember when rodrygo was destroying manchester city last season by creating comeback against real madrid. Manchester city is strong but im thinking now if real madrid is in another level compared with manchester city. The consistency of real madrid is also very good at this moment. Madrid has won a trophy and it may increase as madrid become even closer to the copa del rey and UCL. Glad to see that if bookies were favoring city instead of real madrid.
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Camavinga may also try to prevent haaland. It has alaba as well who is ready to block haaland's movement. Haaland has a good physic, but it doesn't mean if he can't be stopped.

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April 25, 2023, 01:41:07 PM
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I'm sure Guardiola will put pressure on their team to be able to win the game in the first leg so that Madrid doesn't have a chance to comeback, marid has a winning mentality sometimes they always surprise in the last minutes so Manchester City needs to play pressing at the start to create a lot goals through Haaland where he is a Manchester City goal machine who is very prolific in scoring goals while playing in Manchester City.
Yes, it's true that Real Madrid is the God of Fortune, always making surprises at the end of the game that can make the opponent think nothing of it. When compared from the front line, there is no doubt that Manchester City has Haland, who always acts as a goal-scoring machine and has scored 26 goals for Manchester City so far. Meanwhile, Real Madrid is still led by Benzema, who has just scored 25 goals. Meanwhile, in defense, Manchester City's goal is guarded by Ederson, who has so far appeared solid with only 4 goals conceded, while Real Madrid's goal is guarded by Courtois, who has conceded 8 times by opposing attackers. to avoid unwanted things from happening at the end of the game, Manchester City should have carried out a lot of attacks in the early minutes to score a few goals first, at least it can get into a safe position and this can make Real Madrid far from lucky.

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April 25, 2023, 01:48:36 PM
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I must say Manchester City is better than Real Madrid in this season.

Casemiro leaving Real Madrid is a big lose, his performance is stable and he's very good with counter attack strategy. Yeah Real Madrid still have veteran midfielders e.g. Modric and Kroos, but their performance are decreasing due to their old ages. Tchouameni and Camavinga are still need to learn and get experiences. Rodrygo and Vinicius are same, they sometime play very good and sometime not, only Valverde had stable performance.

Now take a look with Manchester City, they have De Bruyne, Grealish, Mahrez, and Gundongan, all of them having stable performance. Actually Haaland don't have a stable performance, but even though he play not that good, his teammates can still score many goals without him.

Yes, Manchester city is better than Real Madrid in this season because the way Manchester city demonstrated in this champions league tournament to qualified for semi-finals easily showed that they are more stronger than Real Madrid. I believe, some of the players that left Real Madrid in this season really affected the team performance negatively because their performance was so poor, despite they made it to semi-final in the champion league competition. I think, Manchester city coach is doing a great job in this season, because his players are doing well in all their position that is giving their fans hope of winning this champions league title this season.


With consecutive wins won by Man City, they are a team that is very strong and consistently wins, until later when they face Real Madrid, this will be a fierce match between the strongest teams in this league, but big opportunities will still come. obtained by Man City, I really hope for an epic match in the match later
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April 25, 2023, 01:56:18 PM
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Experience in this semi-final will decide everything. Real Madrid have a lot of experience in the history of the Champions League and many cups. Manchester City can only boast that they played in the final against Chelsea in 2021 and lost. I think they can't win this year either and will lose to Real. Real are here to win another title like they did last year.
For this season I have a slightly different belief than what you said because this season Manchester City has played well and extraordinary in every match in the Champions League so that Manchester City can reach the semifinals again this season in the Champions League.

So that Manchester City has the possibility to win the Champions League title this season even though Manchester City has to fight a team that already has many trophies and experience in the Champions League. I think the only thing that can prevent Manchester City from winning the Champions League this season is luck, because that is a very difficult factor for anyone to reach.
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April 25, 2023, 02:04:05 PM
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I'm sure Guardiola will put pressure on their team to be able to win the game in the first leg so that Madrid doesn't have a chance to comeback, marid has a winning mentality sometimes they always surprise in the last minutes so Manchester City needs to play pressing at the start to create a lot goals through Haaland where he is a Manchester City goal machine who is very prolific in scoring goals while playing in Manchester City.

Haaland et al will certainly play as much as possible to avenge them last season which made Manchester City fail to reach the UCL final, the meeting between the two is eagerly awaited because this will be a good match to watch and many eyes will be on this match, I know madrid has a winning mentality but i'm sure this season's UCL belongs to manchester city.
Pep Guardiola has been impressive this season though he has always been that standout manager even in previous seasons. It will be delight to see his team win all three trophies they are currently fighting for this season including the premier league and FA cup trophy. They are in very good form and it will be very interesting to see how they can survive Real Madrid in the semi finals.

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April 25, 2023, 02:39:27 PM
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I'm sure Guardiola will put pressure on their team to be able to win the game in the first leg so that Madrid doesn't have a chance to comeback, marid has a winning mentality sometimes they always surprise in the last minutes so Manchester City needs to play pressing at the start to create a lot goals through Haaland where he is a Manchester City goal machine who is very prolific in scoring goals while playing in Manchester City.

Haaland et al will certainly play as much as possible to avenge them last season which made Manchester City fail to reach the UCL final, the meeting between the two is eagerly awaited because this will be a good match to watch and many eyes will be on this match, I know madrid has a winning mentality but i'm sure this season's UCL belongs to manchester city.
Pep Guardiola has been impressive this season though he has always been that standout manager even in previous seasons. It will be delight to see his team win all three trophies they are currently fighting for this season including the premier league and FA cup trophy. They are in very good form and it will be very interesting to see how they can survive Real Madrid in the semi finals.

@Pokapoka124 Pep is a perfectionist and he’ll want the very best from his team, hence I’m expecting a very entertaining game between these two sides. Also Haaland can give his audition for Real Madrid as they would be targeting a striker to replace Benzema, thus if he scores few goals against them then he’ll definitely pass his audition test of scoring in important games.
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April 25, 2023, 03:42:00 PM
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Pep Guardiola has been impressive this season though he has always been that standout manager even in previous seasons. It will be delight to see his team win all three trophies they are currently fighting for this season including the premier league and FA cup trophy. They are in very good form and it will be very interesting to see how they can survive Real Madrid in the semi finals.
Manchester city and real madrid are currently fighting for the treble winners now. I see that how serious pep guardiola was thinking about how to beat real madrid in the upcoming match. Real madrid will be also facing very busy schedule soon. It's very hard to keep the team to be very healthy. Ancelotti is also thinking very hard about how to prevent players from becoming exhausted due to a busy schedule. Real madrid is the strongest club in UCL. Manchester city was losing last season against madrid. Will city repeat the same result against real madrid soon? This is a very interesting question for us. City will be playing with haaland as the main striker. This is also making the team become different.

Real madrid and manchester city have same chances to be qualified for the final but it seemed to me if real madrid had more chance compared with manchester city. City has haaland but he has not ever meet real madrid before.
Real madrid is everything in all of lines. I would like to call that as perfect team

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April 25, 2023, 03:59:01 PM
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Manchester city and real madrid are currently fighting for the treble winners now. I see that how serious pep guardiola was thinking about how to beat real madrid in the upcoming match. Real madrid will be also facing very busy schedule soon. It's very hard to keep the team to be very healthy. Ancelotti is also thinking very hard about how to prevent players from becoming exhausted due to a busy schedule. Real madrid is the strongest club in UCL. Manchester city was losing last season against madrid. Will city repeat the same result against real madrid soon? This is a very interesting question for us. City will be playing with haaland as the main striker. This is also making the team become different.

Real madrid and manchester city have same chances to be qualified for the final but it seemed to me if real madrid had more chance compared with manchester city. City has haaland but he has not ever meet real madrid before.
Real madrid is everything in all of lines. I would like to call that as perfect team

The match between Real Madrid and Manchester City is the Champions League final before the main final. Both teams have so many things in common. Both of them are chasing trebles and they are both second in their leagues. Both teams are coached by two of the best coaches in the world. Manchester City has a better opportunity in the EPL because if they can win all their games, Arsenal will be forced to the second position. But Real Madrid has little or no chance to win La Liga because Barcelona is leading with eleven points.

For me, Manchester City has a better side to win the semifinals because they have been consistent this season, and their attackers a slightly sharper than Real Madrid. Generally, this match cannot be predicted because of the quality of both sides. The winner of this game might likely be the winner of the UCL this season.

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April 25, 2023, 03:59:08 PM
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Experience in this semi-final will decide everything. Real Madrid have a lot of experience in the history of the Champions League and many cups. Manchester City can only boast that they played in the final against Chelsea in 2021 and lost. I think they can't win this year either and will lose to Real. Real are here to win another title like they did last year.
For this season I have a slightly different belief than what you said because this season Manchester City has played well and extraordinary in every match in the Champions League so that Manchester City can reach the semifinals again this season in the Champions League.

So that Manchester City has the possibility to win the Champions League title this season even though Manchester City has to fight a team that already has many trophies and experience in the Champions League. I think the only thing that can prevent Manchester City from winning the Champions League this season is luck, because that is a very difficult factor for anyone to reach.
Your belief is well-founded, Manchester City has managed to maintain its quality when other EPL teams such as Manchester United and Chelsea are having a bad period at the start of the season. The presence of several new ammunition in the Manchester City squad has made them even more favored in the UCL. Manchester City have also learned from last season's failures that prevented them from achieving their long-cherished dream.

The record as the club that has collected the most UCL trophies does not mean that Real Madrid cannot be beaten, this season Real Madrid appearance has experienced a slight decline which made them almost lose the La Liga trophy. Pep Guardiola will try to suppress Real Madrid in every way possible, a win over Real Madrid will open a wider path for Manchester City to get a trophy that has never been won in the club's history.

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April 25, 2023, 04:15:24 PM
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Benzema is even better compared with haaland. If we are seeing based on the history and benzema has ever won ballon d'or as the best striker. It's not only benzema. You shall remember that if there are so many players in madrid who have same capability to make the goals. Valverde, rodrygo, Vini and many more. I remember when rodrygo was destroying manchester city last season by creating comeback against real madrid. Manchester city is strong but im thinking now if real madrid is in another level compared with manchester city. The consistency of real madrid is also very good at this moment. Madrid has won a trophy and it may increase as madrid become even closer to the copa del rey and UCL. Glad to see that if bookies were favoring city instead of real madrid.
That makes me feel so good with

If both Man City and Real Madrid are at their best then I'm afraid, Man City is winning the tie. Man City's best is better than Real Madrid's best. Man City on their best can beat any team. The treat Real Madrid pose most is not their current form or their players, its how effective they are in the Champions league and logically speaking, you can't use that to judge the outcome of a match because its not everything it works. If that always works them Madrid would have won the champions league every year.
On paper and based on current form, Man City is the favorites but we know the favorite doesn't always win the champions league.

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April 25, 2023, 04:25:24 PM
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With consecutive wins won by Man City, they are a team that is very strong and consistently wins, until later when they face Real Madrid, this will be a fierce match between the strongest teams in this league, but big opportunities will still come. obtained by Man City, I really hope for an epic match in the match later
You shall not feel worry about that. It will become another epic match. Manchester city and real madrid can be considered as the strongest club this season in EU. Manchester city has goal machine while real madrid will be coming with a perfect squad.
Real madrid has a target to defend its UCL trophy while manchester city is aiming to get a new trophy since city is not even owning UCL trophy. UCL is the main target by pep guardiola at this moment.
You shall not worry about the match. It will become a high tension match between two best clubs in EU

The italian match seems already abandoned by so many people. I think that intermilan has more possibility to win against ac milan. I were picking the result from previous matches as intermilan is far better compared with ac milan.
Intermilan was able winning against ac milan in several matches. The same story will repeat again soon.

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April 25, 2023, 04:36:52 PM
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Benzema is even better compared with haaland. If we are seeing based on the history and benzema has ever won ballon d'or as the best striker. It's not only benzema. You shall remember that if there are so many players in madrid who have same capability to make the goals. Valverde, rodrygo, Vini and many more. I remember when rodrygo was destroying manchester city last season by creating comeback against real madrid. Manchester city is strong but im thinking now if real madrid is in another level compared with manchester city. The consistency of real madrid is also very good at this moment. Madrid has won a trophy and it may increase as madrid become even closer to the copa del rey and UCL. Glad to see that if bookies were favoring city instead of real madrid.
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If both Man City and Real Madrid are at their best then I'm afraid, Man City is winning the tie. Man City's best is better than Real Madrid's best. Man City on their best can beat any team. The treat Real Madrid pose most is not their current form or their players, its how effective they are in the Champions league and logically speaking, you can't use that to judge the outcome of a match because its not everything it works. If that always works them Madrid would have won the champions league every year.
On paper and based on current form, Man City is the favorites but we know the favorite doesn't always win the champions league.


If he chooses Real Madrid in the bet, let it happen, because we also have many choices in betting, of course they can be free to choose whichever team will win in this match. But there is one thing that I want to convey, that Benzema and Haaland cannot be used as a comparison regarding the achievement of getting the Ballon d'or, because their ages are also very different.

If you want to judge achievements, then comparisons have to be age-appropriate as well, because it's impossible for a young player to win the Ballon d'or. Also, I think when in the past Benzema was as old as Haaland is now, I believe Benzema hasn't achieved much. Meanwhile, Haaland at this moment has at least scored many goals, including the hat-trick that Haaland often manages to score.

Therefore, if at this moment you compare Benzema with Haaland, then of course Haaland is still better. But if you compare the ballon d'or, then it's an unequal comparison, because for Benzema himself it took a very long time to get the ballon d'or and it wasn't achieved at a young age, right.

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April 25, 2023, 04:46:16 PM
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Camavinga may also try to prevent haaland. It has alaba as well who is ready to block haaland's movement. Haaland has a good physic, but it doesn't mean if he can't be stopped.

From past experiences, we should know by now that man-marking a player always ends up badly for the team doing the man-marking. When you put a particular player to try and stop a certain player, then you're asking the player to 100% be on the player his marking.
If either or both Camavinga and Alaba are tasked with the job of stopping Halland, that limits them to only stopping Halland. They won't be able to express themselves freely in the game because the moment they may want to express themselves may be the moment Halland would exploit.
I like players to be free on the field, and stop the opposing players as a team because if we're being honest, everybody in Man City is a treat, you can't be focused on certain players and leave certain players. Every single player in Man City can hurt you, including their goalkeeper.
Halland and every other player in Man City can be stopped but you can only stop them as a team.

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April 25, 2023, 04:48:23 PM
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I'm sure Guardiola will put pressure on their team to be able to win the game in the first leg so that Madrid doesn't have a chance to comeback, marid has a winning mentality sometimes they always surprise in the last minutes so Manchester City needs to play pressing at the start to create a lot goals through Haaland where he is a Manchester City goal machine who is very prolific in scoring goals while playing in Manchester City.
Haaland et al will certainly play as much as possible to avenge them last season which made Manchester City fail to reach the UCL final, the meeting between the two is eagerly awaited because this will be a good match to watch and many eyes will be on this match, I know madrid has a winning mentality but i'm sure this season's UCL belongs to manchester city.
Pep Guardiola has been impressive this season though he has always been that standout manager even in previous seasons. It will be delight to see his team win all three trophies they are currently fighting for this season including the premier league and FA cup trophy. They are in very good form and it will be very interesting to see how they can survive Real Madrid in the semi finals.
@Pokapoka124 Pep is a perfectionist and he’ll want the very best from his team, hence I’m expecting a very entertaining game between these two sides. Also Haaland can give his audition for Real Madrid as they would be targeting a striker to replace Benzema, thus if he scores few goals against them then he’ll definitely pass his audition test of scoring in important games.

The Manchester City team has been the favorite team in the Champions League for the last few seasons. But they could not win the title. The team's performance suddenly deteriorated in the semi-finals and finals. But if Haaland is able to play well against Madrid then I believe Manchester City will qualify for the final. Manchester City players are very confident this time. They are strong as a team. Moreover, due to the strong midfield, Haaland is able to score a lot of goals.

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April 25, 2023, 05:31:27 PM
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Camavinga may also try to prevent haaland. It has alaba as well who is ready to block haaland's movement. Haaland has a good physic, but it doesn't mean if he can't be stopped.

From past experiences, we should know by now that man-marking a player always ends up badly for the team doing the man-marking. When you put a particular player to try and stop a certain player, then you're asking the player to 100% be on the player his marking.
If either or both Camavinga and Alaba are tasked with the job of stopping Halland, that limits them to only stopping Halland. They won't be able to express themselves freely in the game because the moment they may want to express themselves may be the moment Halland would exploit.
I like players to be free on the field, and stop the opposing players as a team because if we're being honest, everybody in Man City is a treat, you can't be focused on certain players and leave certain players. Every single player in Man City can hurt you, including their goalkeeper.
Halland and every other player in Man City can be stopped but you can only stop them as a team.
I agree with this. Because it's true that when a player is focused on keeping one of the opposing players tight, in fact this can actually create a loss for the guard's own team. because a player who closely guards one of these players will have limited movements because he will only focus on guarding that one person. And it's true that keeping Haaland tight I don't think will be enough to dampen the line of attack that Man City has. Because we can see in the Man City vs Bayern match this has been practiced. and as a result Bayern suffered defeat because some of their players were too focused on keeping Haaland tight. this makes Bayern have several gaps. But I'm pretty sure Real Madrid have a more effective tactic than just having to keep the haaland tight.

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Experience in this semi-final will decide everything. Real Madrid have a lot of experience in the history of the Champions League and many cups. Manchester City can only boast that they played in the final against Chelsea in 2021 and lost. I think they can't win this year either and will lose to Real. Real are here to win another title like they did last year.
For this season I have a slightly different belief than what you said because this season Manchester City has played well and extraordinary in every match in the Champions League so that Manchester City can reach the semifinals again this season in the Champions League.

So that Manchester City has the possibility to win the Champions League title this season even though Manchester City has to fight a team that already has many trophies and experience in the Champions League. I think the only thing that can prevent Manchester City from winning the Champions League this season is luck, because that is a very difficult factor for anyone to reach.

IMO, in this season, City is better than Real Madrid. whether it's in terms of players, tactics, statistics, also in terms of goal productivity. every game City played, they always dominated. except, in the second leg when they visited Bayern Munich. if I have to be honest, City deserves more to qualify for the next phase and even to win the Champions League trophy this season. i guess they have a complete cast. whether it's in defense, midfield, wings, also strikers who are hungry for goals. So far, Haaland has scored 32 goals in the Domestic league, 12 goals in the Champions League, this is amazing. I don't think it's a matter of having experience or not, but more about team strength, team play, teamwork, tactical, plus a bit of luck.

As for Real Madrid, I'm sure Don Carlo understands very well that his opponent this time is a very tough team. so, Madrid will not play recklessly in the match later. actually, when it comes to strength, from my point of view, City are stronger. it's just that, in football anything can happen. the only ultimate strength that Madrid has is, a quick counter attack. therefore too, Pep will try to anticipate it. what is certain, this match still has a time lag and both teams will both learn every weakness of their respective opponents.

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