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Ten Hag knew very well that in his first season he would not be able to win a trophy unless United were really lucky.
He and Manchester United are climbing up to a third position in Premier League but I agree that thinking of the trophy is too optimistic. A third or second position at the end can be great for them. Again we should remember that Ole Solskajer had a season with a runner-up position with Manchester United but after all he was sacked by them. This should be an ongoing process without expecting any achievements in a season that has been filled with inconsistent team performances. I'm not going to forbid them from setting a target of becoming champions, but it takes time for a team that has just recently resurrected like Manchester United. I think it will be very hasty in its first season already targeting a trophy which at the beginning received the team in not good condition. I think that the target must be to enter into the top 4 until the season. You can dream if MU will be winning the current season but the problem is when you are aware about the fact that if arsenal has a very big gap to the MU. that was not possible for MU to be able to surpass arsenal if it keeps doing more and more win streak. I think that we shall try to used our logic. We can even know if MU will not be possible to go to the champion for this season. We must be realistic with the gap between MU and arsenal. What you were saying just like you can't accept the truth if arsenal has the biggest chance to win this season and not MU
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This should be an ongoing process without expecting any achievements in a season that has been filled with inconsistent team performances. I'm not going to forbid them from setting a target of becoming champions, but it takes time for a team that has just recently resurrected like Manchester United. I think it will be very hasty in its first season already targeting a trophy which at the beginning received the team in not good condition.
Wouldn't it be better if a team like Manchester United were able to win the Europa League trophy in conditions like now this season? Because the Manchester United team is a big team and has also had a very long career in football so there is no rush or first season here because Manchester United needs a trophy to prove to the public that they are still very strong and able to achieve what they want. And it can also be a boost for team motivation for the next season again.
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I'm not a Manchester fan, but I like Ten Hag's coaching style more than any previous coach with the exception of Sir Alex Ferguson. Speaking of United, as far as I'm concerned, Erik Ten Hag has never stated that he is aiming for any trophy. Teh Hag came to coach United, to bring Manchester Uniter in a better direction. he only targets victory after victory in each of his matches, both in domestic competition and the Europa League. after all, Ten Hag is a coach who has high integrity and has the ability to bring United on a par with clubs competing in the Champions League.
Ten Hag knew very well that in his first season he would not be able to win a trophy unless United were really lucky. after all, currently Arsenal and Manchester City are more favored in their domestic league competition. for the Europa league, because we don't know the newcomers who will be brought to Old Trafford. So far, we're just guessing. for sure, Barcelona vs United will present a very interesting match for us to watch. for the Gunners, they remain the strongest candidate to win a trophy in this competition with their positive trending performance.
Having a manager with a good system is always a tricky thing. It means you are going to not get wins right away, because it requires players to learn more about the team and the system, but it also means that you are going to be growing better eventually and that gives some potential. Plus, if you buy players that fit the system better, which they already have done and only lacking a striker if they do not want to continue with Rashford, then it would be even quicker adjustment as well. I think it's obvious that we are seeing what could be a start of a great team so far and they are not at that "win title" level yet but they show promise of future that they could become that team.
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However, Rashford is not really the answer to United's needs in the centre-forward position. like it or not, Ten Hag had to bring in some newcomers, especially pure stickers, to sharpen their front line. We'll see which players Ten Hag will bring in this January. If he brings in the right players, I'm sure Manchester United will be an opponent who can again be on a par with the big clubs competing in the European League competition. before preparing for the match for the playoffs later, Ten Hag will focus his troops more on the Domestic League competition to maintain the ranking they currently occupy.
Agree. United needs a center-forward The Red Devils lack a striker to play in all the leagues they currently participate in (Premier League, Europe League, etc) Erik Ten Hag also expressed his desire to sign more strikers. The rumors today. The Red Devils are in the market to bring Dani Olmo from RB Leipzig. And for a short-term option, the Red Devils reportedly want to borrow AC Milan, striker. Olivier Giroud. Though Rashford is not doing badly currently, I think the club needs a central forward, and Oliver Giroud isn't a bad striker but as it stands now I don't think Oliver Giroud can fit into Manchester United's pattern of play. Lately, man united plays without much dependency on a point man, and I think it's fine that way, if anyone should join Man united now I think Dani Olmo is the best option. He can play as an attacking midfielder or a winger. Olmo and Rashford can make a formidable pair compared to Giroud who is already aging.
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This should be an ongoing process without expecting any achievements in a season that has been filled with inconsistent team performances. I'm not going to forbid them from setting a target of becoming champions, but it takes time for a team that has just recently resurrected like Manchester United. I think it will be very hasty in its first season already targeting a trophy which at the beginning received the team in not good condition.
Wouldn't it be better if a team like Manchester United were able to win the Europa League trophy in conditions like now this season? Because the Manchester United team is a big team and has also had a very long career in football so there is no rush or first season here because Manchester United needs a trophy to prove to the public that they are still very strong and able to achieve what they want. And it can also be a boost for team motivation for the next season again. Anyway, nothing is certain and any outcome can happen for Manchester United but if Manchester United can beat Barcelona, then at least Manchester United will have more chances to become candidates for the Europa League title this season. Erik ten Hag has also been very impressive so far this season for Manchester United so yes, Manchester United this season does have a chance to go further. Because after all, in the group stage Manchester United did not get too good results because they were only runners up. But now Ronaldo is not in the Manchester United squad so I feel Manchester United's performance looks better, because that also happened to their good results in the Premier League after the World Cup break.
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Barcelona's only chance is that United will treat the Europa League as their second priority this season. There are all prerequisites for this - United are doing well in the Premier League and they have every chance of not only gaining a foothold in the top 4 but even climbing higher. Given the value of qualifying for the Champions League, this looks like a bigger deal than beating Barcelona. Winning the Europa League also gives a direct ticket to the Champions League but it is less "guaranteed" as there is a lot of randomness in the knockout games.
I think that Barcelona has the better chances here but the fact that they are directly fighting with Real Madrid to win the La Liga makes it a bit more difficult for them compared to Manchester United which has no title winning objective and it is impossible for them to win the title in the Premier League. Barcelona when compared player by player I think has a better quality and normally should qualify further in the Europa League and be a strong contender to win the Europa League but in these encounters you never know how it might go because it is just a 2 game elimination so it can be anyone's game. I'm not at all sure that in terms of players, Barcelona will be ahead, but it doesn't matter - football is a team game and United look much stronger here. United are more flexible and they are able to play with different opponents using different strategies. I don't follow Barcelona much but their game looks like either stupid ball rolling or crosses on Lewandowski "for good luck" with extremely low efficiency. Is there any chance Xavi will come up with something new? I highly doubt it.
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This is like the brightest season for Arsenal in the recent years.
They have a pretty good chance to go for the English Premier League and Europa League titles both. They have done a good work so far about balancing them. For now they are completely concentrated on their EPL matches and things are going well there. They haven't faced a bigger team than PSV in the Europa League yet. But I think they would still show a good performance. Their results in their domestic league must be a good proof for that. As they care about both tournaments they wouldn't be complacent here as well. Besides they are lucky about another thing that one of the biggest title contenders is going to be out of the tournament by this stage already.
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This is like the brightest season for Arsenal in the recent years.
They have a pretty good chance to go for the English Premier League and Europa League titles both. They have done a good work so far about balancing them. For now they are completely concentrated on their EPL matches and things are going well there. They haven't faced a bigger team than PSV in the Europa League yet. But I think they would still show a good performance. Their results in their domestic league must be a good proof for that. As they care about both tournaments they wouldn't be complacent here as well. Besides they are lucky about another thing that one of the biggest title contenders is going to be out of the tournament by this stage already.
I for one have enjoyed Arsenals game so far, as long as this season is concerned. Their performance after the world cup break has shown a steady rise in team spirit mostly following the absence of Gabriel Jesus to injury. a As title contenders, their contention for the Europa League title is a hard fought one with more hopes of success than failure. Till they face a bigger team, only then can you and I steady our faith in their abilities to even lift a trophy this season.
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This is like the brightest season for Arsenal in the recent years.
They have a pretty good chance to go for the English Premier League and Europa League titles both. They have done a good work so far about balancing them. For now they are completely concentrated on their EPL matches and things are going well there. They haven't faced a bigger team than PSV in the Europa League yet. But I think they would still show a good performance. Their results in their domestic league must be a good proof for that. As they care about both tournaments they wouldn't be complacent here as well. Besides they are lucky about another thing that one of the biggest title contenders is going to be out of the tournament by this stage already.
In current situation Arsenal and Manchester United both are looking for their chance into this Europa League because both are having good results in their respective league and their squad depth is also at their best which can give them good success in this league as well with most chances Arsenal is having better position but as we all know UEFA is having record of unpredictable results and title winners here any team can win on his day now after we have few teams are eliminated from the Champions League things looking more interesting but still these both having better chance for the win with their recent performance and quality of the game in all competitions.
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This is like the brightest season for Arsenal in the recent years.
They have a pretty good chance to go for the English Premier League and Europa League titles both. They have done a good work so far about balancing them. For now they are completely concentrated on their EPL matches and things are going well there. They haven't faced a bigger team than PSV in the Europa League yet. But I think they would still show a good performance. Their results in their domestic league must be a good proof for that. As they care about both tournaments they wouldn't be complacent here as well. Besides they are lucky about another thing that one of the biggest title contenders is going to be out of the tournament by this stage already.
They have been very good in the EPL and Manchester City keeps slipping off when you least expect them to do so. As for Europa, I think there is still a huge mountain for them to claim. I still see a number of teams that can cause an Upset if they met Arsenal at a certain stage in the tournament such as Barcelona, Roma, Manchester United, Ajax, Record winners Sevilla etc Still too early to guess who the winner might be in my opinion.
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Barcelona's only chance is that United will treat the Europa League as their second priority this season. There are all prerequisites for this - United are doing well in the Premier League and they have every chance of not only gaining a foothold in the top 4 but even climbing higher. Given the value of qualifying for the Champions League, this looks like a bigger deal than beating Barcelona. Winning the Europa League also gives a direct ticket to the Champions League but it is less "guaranteed" as there is a lot of randomness in the knockout games.
I think that Barcelona has the better chances here but the fact that they are directly fighting with Real Madrid to win the La Liga makes it a bit more difficult for them compared to Manchester United which has no title winning objective and it is impossible for them to win the title in the Premier League. Barcelona when compared player by player I think has a better quality and normally should qualify further in the Europa League and be a strong contender to win the Europa League but in these encounters you never know how it might go because it is just a 2 game elimination so it can be anyone's game. I'm not at all sure that in terms of players, Barcelona will be ahead, but it doesn't matter - football is a team game and United look much stronger here. United are more flexible and they are able to play with different opponents using different strategies. I don't follow Barcelona much but their game looks like either stupid ball rolling or crosses on Lewandowski "for good luck" with extremely low efficiency. Is there any chance Xavi will come up with something new? I highly doubt it. I also think that Manchester United is stronger and more organized than Barcelona. The Barcelona team has many star players. But the bonding between the players is still not good enough. Barcelona shared points with the likes of Espanyol in their last La Liga match. It will be very difficult for Barcelona to win against United with such a team. Barcelona still has plenty of time to sort out their internal problems. Hope they can stabilize the team.
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January 04, 2023, 09:58:42 PM |
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This is like the brightest season for Arsenal in the recent years.
They have a pretty good chance to go for the English Premier League and Europa League titles both. They have done a good work so far about balancing them. For now they are completely concentrated on their EPL matches and things are going well there. They haven't faced a bigger team than PSV in the Europa League yet. But I think they would still show a good performance. Their results in their domestic league must be a good proof for that. As they care about both tournaments they wouldn't be complacent here as well. Besides they are lucky about another thing that one of the biggest title contenders is going to be out of the tournament by this stage already.
I for one have enjoyed Arsenals game so far, as long as this season is concerned. Their performance after the world cup break has shown a steady rise in team spirit mostly following the absence of Gabriel Jesus to injury. a As title contenders, their contention for the Europa League title is a hard fought one with more hopes of success than failure. Till they face a bigger team, only then can you and I steady our faith in their abilities to even lift a trophy this season. So far Arsenal have won more than half of the total matches they are expected to play. So I don't think there's anything left for them to prove other than maintaining their team spirit. Winning against a big team should be a subjective topic because arsenal have already recorded a win against big clubs like Chelsea, Liverpool, Tottenham, Ac Milan and many others. If there is any other big-name team awaiting Arsenal's defeat, it should be Man united and Manchester city, and with the current signing made by the club, I think Arsenal is fully prepared for any challenge ahead.
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January 04, 2023, 09:59:34 PM |
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This is like the brightest season for Arsenal in the recent years.
They have a pretty good chance to go for the English Premier League and Europa League titles both. They have done a good work so far about balancing them. For now they are completely concentrated on their EPL matches and things are going well there. They haven't faced a bigger team than PSV in the Europa League yet. But I think they would still show a good performance. Their results in their domestic league must be a good proof for that. As they care about both tournaments they wouldn't be complacent here as well. Besides they are lucky about another thing that one of the biggest title contenders is going to be out of the tournament by this stage already.
There is no doubt after the retirement of the legendary coach Aresen Wenger now they are at their best and having fair chance of winning trophies because Arteta done good job in last few months and able to have strong squad which can bring good and consistent results for them in any competition right now they are clearly leading the Premier League and having good success in Europa Cup as well hopefully things could be good and positive for them in coming weeks as well which will give them good success in these both competitions. There was chance due to Gabriel Jesus injury they will suffer but things looking good and better, hopefully they will improve in coming weeks and January window is also can bring quality replacement for them for having their squad better for this season.
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January 04, 2023, 10:08:23 PM |
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I'm not at all sure that in terms of players, Barcelona will be ahead, but it doesn't matter - football is a team game and United look much stronger here. United are more flexible and they are able to play with different opponents using different strategies. I don't follow Barcelona much but their game looks like either stupid ball rolling or crosses on Lewandowski "for good luck" with extremely low efficiency. Is there any chance Xavi will come up with something new? I highly doubt it.
Right now, we are nearly forty days away from this game which is clearly good length and during this time anything can happen which can bring trouble for any team with any team can go much better but in current situation performance and quality is clearly supporting Manchester United which is doing good performance after the International break and having three good wins with clean sheets . Moreover, Barcelona is having one derby match which was ended in a draw so if Barcelona wants to win against Manchester United then surely they need to improve their performance and having better depth in squad will help them in Manchester United now things looking better which are helping them for having improved results and better quality.
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This should be an ongoing process without expecting any achievements in a season that has been filled with inconsistent team performances. I'm not going to forbid them from setting a target of becoming champions, but it takes time for a team that has just recently resurrected like Manchester United. I think it will be very hasty in its first season already targeting a trophy which at the beginning received the team in not good condition.
Wouldn't it be better if a team like Manchester United were able to win the Europa League trophy in conditions like now this season? Because the Manchester United team is a big team and has also had a very long career in football so there is no rush or first season here because Manchester United needs a trophy to prove to the public that they are still very strong and able to achieve what they want. And it can also be a boost for team motivation for the next season again. It would be so good for manchester united caused by it will make will be able to be qualified instantly for the UCL. There's no a better thing for europa club other than has a chance to compete at the top of competition in EU. I think that with the current performance of MU to beat barcelona was an easy thing. Rashford is performing more than what people expected to him. I didn't even expect rashford to make a great comeback like that. MU become even crazy and it has found its best formation. Another club like barcelona must be careful with the new MU. The new MU that already developed by ten haag was another beast that was coming back from its sleep. I would like to see MU to destroy barcelona next month
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Barcelona vs Manchester United match has now become the main object of Europa League discussion. But I still have little fear for clubs like PSV, Roma, bayern leverkusen, midtjylland and Monaco. This clubs are doing well in their league but their chances of winning their league is much quite narrow compared to their chances of winning the Europa League, for that they might show much more curiosity in winning Europa league matches than clubs like Barcelona and Arsenal. Therefore one should not underrate them in Europa league matches.
Yes, in fact it is the game they are most looking forward to, the Europa League now has a lot of emotions, the teams that are here want to be first, show that they are the best and that they need to be in the UCL quickly, I think both Juve and the Rome and Barcelona will be the teams that will provide the most emotions for the players. As for the Barcelona game, I think they can win, I don't like to be very optimistic about Barcelona, but I see it as much better than Manchester, in my personal opinion as long as Ten Hag remains in charge of Manchester it will lead them to the abyss that will not they will be able to get out so easily, they already have their other victim, so this is like one of the unsuccessful cycles that do not end. Ten Hag knew very well that in his first season he would not be able to win a trophy unless United were really lucky.
He and Manchester United are climbing up to a third position in Premier League but I agree that thinking of the trophy is too optimistic. A third or second position at the end can be great for them. Again we should remember that Ole Solskajer had a season with a runner-up position with Manchester United but after all he was sacked by them. This should be an ongoing process without expecting any achievements in a season that has been filled with inconsistent team performances. I'm not going to forbid them from setting a target of becoming champions, but it takes time for a team that has just recently resurrected like Manchester United. I think it will be very hasty in its first season already targeting a trophy which at the beginning received the team in not good condition. I think that the target must be to enter into the top 4 until the season. You can dream if MU will be winning the current season but the problem is when you are aware about the fact that if arsenal has a very big gap to the MU. that was not possible for MU to be able to surpass arsenal if it keeps doing more and more win streak. I think that we shall try to used our logic. We can even know if MU will not be possible to go to the champion for this season. We must be realistic with the gap between MU and arsenal. What you were saying just like you can't accept the truth if arsenal has the biggest chance to win this season and not MU Well before I used to think Man United was a team that could make a difference but because of everything they've been through they can get promoted instead and yes it's very nice but the hard part is staying there like they say Arsenal It is a team that is very hungry for everything, I think that this time they will not be discouraged by anyone, and they will do whatever it takes to be in that precious position, and I like that, because they are thinking big, they are not falling behind as They have done it for some time, for me Arsenal will have a better emergence than Man United itself, I don't have the slightest bit of confidence that things will work out for them with Ten Hag in charge of Man United. And well, Arsenal starred in a controversial match against Newcastle: Arsenal fan puts together ridiculous thread on why referee 'favoured' Newcastle United
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVVwNcZO.png&t=665&c=y5PX2BSoAXTVAA) One Arsenal fan has come up with the most ridiculous theory ever as to why referee Andrew Madley 'favoured' Newcastle United in Tuesday's 0-0 draw.
It was a frustrating night all round for both teams, as they looked to cement their surprisingly good positions in the Premier League.
Neither side could create the chance that would have earned them all three points to strengthen their bid for the league title, in Arsenal's instance, or to finish in the top four, for Newcastle.
It was the Gunners who were left more annoyed, especially their manager Mikel Arteta, as they desperately appealed for two potential penalties.
Source: https://www.sportbible.com/football/arsenal-fan-thread-referee-newcastle-untied-551113-20230104
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January 05, 2023, 02:06:04 AM |
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I also think that Manchester United is stronger and more organized than Barcelona. The Barcelona team has many star players. But the bonding between the players is still not good enough. Barcelona shared points with the likes of Espanyol in their last La Liga match. It will be very difficult for Barcelona to win against United with such a team. Barcelona still has plenty of time to sort out their internal problems. Hope they can stabilize the team.
United was in the best form now. Ten haag already found the best formation for MU. Rashford is a beast now. That means the chance for barcelona to be qualified for the next round has become even lower than before. I think that we shall take a look at the fact that statistic didn't even matter a lot. The golden time for barcelona has gone and barcelona will be facing a strong team right now. i doubt if barcelona can win against MU. Mu may able to beat barcelona with huge score. People were so underrating MU at this moment while ten haag has been slowly making the club going up. Rashford will be destroying barcelona. Moreover MU has good defender like casemiro which has been fully experienced against barcelona
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Jody.Drummer
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January 05, 2023, 05:13:45 AM |
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I also think that Manchester United is stronger and more organized than Barcelona. The Barcelona team has many star players. But the bonding between the players is still not good enough. Barcelona shared points with the likes of Espanyol in their last La Liga match. It will be very difficult for Barcelona to win against United with such a team. Barcelona still has plenty of time to sort out their internal problems. Hope they can stabilize the team.
United was in the best form now. Ten haag already found the best formation for MU. Rashford is a beast now. That means the chance for barcelona to be qualified for the next round has become even lower than before. I think that we shall take a look at the fact that statistic didn't even matter a lot. The golden time for barcelona has gone and barcelona will be facing a strong team right now. i doubt if barcelona can win against MU. Mu may able to beat barcelona with huge score. People were so underrating MU at this moment while ten haag has been slowly making the club going up. Rashford will be destroying barcelona. Moreover MU has good defender like casemiro which has been fully experienced against barcelona With the return of the league and us seeing the performances of the two clubs that will meet later, it slowly changes our view because we look at the recent performances of the clubs. It's no wonder now that the advantage has shifted to Manchester United, who look better than Barcelona in their respective domestic leagues. Even though before that I myself leaned a little towards Barcelona, but now it's slowly changing. I don't know whether Barcelona will be able to appear more promising in the next match or if it's even worse. They will meet Atletico Madrid in Week 16 of La Liga, and it will be a very difficult opponent for them. There are approximately 1.5 months left for us to watch the Europa League matches.
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Silence Scream
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January 05, 2023, 05:23:24 AM |
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This should be an ongoing process without expecting any achievements in a season that has been filled with inconsistent team performances. I'm not going to forbid them from setting a target of becoming champions, but it takes time for a team that has just recently resurrected like Manchester United. I think it will be very hasty in its first season already targeting a trophy which at the beginning received the team in not good condition.
Wouldn't it be better if a team like Manchester United were able to win the Europa League trophy in conditions like now this season? Because the Manchester United team is a big team and has also had a very long career in football so there is no rush or first season here because Manchester United needs a trophy to prove to the public that they are still very strong and able to achieve what they want. And it can also be a boost for team motivation for the next season again. I think Manchester United also want to win the trophy, but there is a difficult obstacle in front of them. They will have to eliminate Spanish giant Barcelona first. Their performance in the Premier League has been on the rise and if they continue like this, they have a chance to knock out Barcelona. If they beat Barcelona, they could go all the way to the final.
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January 05, 2023, 05:38:10 AM |
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This should be an ongoing process without expecting any achievements in a season that has been filled with inconsistent team performances. I'm not going to forbid them from setting a target of becoming champions, but it takes time for a team that has just recently resurrected like Manchester United. I think it will be very hasty in its first season already targeting a trophy which at the beginning received the team in not good condition.
Wouldn't it be better if a team like Manchester United were able to win the Europa League trophy in conditions like now this season? Because the Manchester United team is a big team and has also had a very long career in football so there is no rush or first season here because Manchester United needs a trophy to prove to the public that they are still very strong and able to achieve what they want. And it can also be a boost for team motivation for the next season again. I think Manchester United also want to win the trophy, but there is a difficult obstacle in front of them. They will have to eliminate Spanish giant Barcelona first. Their performance in the Premier League has been on the rise and if they continue like this, they have a chance to knock out Barcelona. If they beat Barcelona, they could go all the way to the final. As long as MU will always be performing like when the club was able getting some wins in EPL and i do believe MU capable to beat barcelona easily without any doubt about that. MU is on the rise now in EPL while barcelona faced another difficult match against espanyol and it was not able to get full points from there while real madrid has been almost surpassing barcelona again. I think that the performance from barcelona will not be so good. In my opinion if barcelona is under pressure by real madrid while MU was getting new performance again. MU was quite better for now but the match is still a month away and i think that there will be so many changes to come soon. MU itself has been preparing some big transfers to make sure if it will be getting a good striker for the rest of season. MU looks so strong right now.
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