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Question: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Sevilla - 20 (55.6%)
Juventus - 7 (19.4%)
Bayer Leverkusen - 2 (5.6%)
Roma - 7 (19.4%)
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March 23, 2023, 10:04:01 PM
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All the adequacy of these quotes collapses when we see that the chances of Sevilla are only two times lower than the chances of Juventus (despite the fact that Sevilla has already got into the draw  the favorite of the tournament - United). And Juventus will be waiting for them in the semi-finals  Grin To be honest, I don't understand what math the bookmakers used when they drew up this line.

Hm the odds are interesting but when you think about it, what would you actually criticize? Should Juventus be less, perhaps something around 4.5? I think that Manchester United is the favorite, although the gap between them and Juventus is too big. Roma is probably put at the same as Juventus because they have the "easier" way to go when they win against Feyenoord.

Generally I think the draw is a bit unlucky because in a worst case scenario the final does not sound as spectacular as I would wish for. It's fine if the best teams win, but when the draws pre-determine that big teams must get kicked out because they face each other, I am not sure I like that a lot.

Juventus is one of the favourites, but who is Sevilla? A team that is literally two points from the relegation zone (and this is not the Premier League but La Liga where competition in the basement is weak) has a chance of only two times worse than Juventus (top 2 in Serie A if you do not take into account the penalty). It seems to me that this is complete nonsense from bookmakers, even considering the fact that these are knockout games, everyone has a chance, etc.

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March 23, 2023, 11:05:11 PM
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We must not forget about Sevilla because Sevilla is one of the teams that have won the Europa League the most times, and Sevilla will definitely be a serious obstacle for Manchester United if they are to become champions and if Sevilla can be beaten. I'm sure Manchester United will win, and you also need to know Manchater United was eliminated by Sevilla in the semifinals of the 2019-2020 Europa League.
but I believe that with Manchester United's current performance with Erik ten Hag they have changed a lot and still have the chance to win several other leagues after winning the Carabao Cup.
With the current chaotic conditions for Sevilla and the dismissal of Sampaoli, who, even though he had only coached this season, actually, apart from his past performance, I don't see them as a real threat at the moment.
Precisely in this case it is Sevilla who will definitely have trouble facing the Ofensivw scheme from Manchester United later, even though it is true that underestimating this team can be a mistake, at the moment there is no better scheme for Sevilla than defending.

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March 23, 2023, 11:32:59 PM
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Leverkusen might seem like they have the best draw in the quarter finals. But they still need to be really careful anyway. Because Royale Union SG eliminated a solid team like Union Berlin in the previous round. We have all seen how great season Union Berlin have had so far. Therefore it shows how dangerous Royale Union SG can be in this tournament.

Of course Union Berlin weren't like one of the biggest title contenders. Now they will face one of the contenders which is Leverkusen. I really wonder how they will play against another strong German team. Leverkusen are doing well these days.

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March 23, 2023, 11:39:28 PM
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We must not forget about Sevilla because Sevilla is one of the teams that have won the Europa League the most times, and Sevilla will definitely be a serious obstacle for Manchester United if they are to become champions and if Sevilla can be beaten. I'm sure Manchester United will win, and you also need to know Manchater United was eliminated by Sevilla in the semifinals of the 2019-2020 Europa League.
Winning most of europa league trophies didn't mean if sevilla is winning now, right? Mu was always competing in UCL before which far better rather than sevilla. MU was also winning UCL a few times. Sevilla had no UCL trophies. That proves that if MU is still above sevilla no matter how often people called sevilla as king of europe.
I do believe if MU will beat it easily.
but I believe that with Manchester United's current performance with Erik ten Hag they have changed a lot and still have the chance to win several other leagues after winning the Carabao Cup.
Carabao cup has been giving motivation to win even more trophies for this season but UEL seems become the last trophy that can be won by manchester united. I saw that if MU is not having lots of chance to win more than 1 trophies until the end of season.

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March 24, 2023, 03:53:34 AM
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We must not forget about Sevilla because Sevilla is one of the teams that have won the Europa League the most times, and Sevilla will definitely be a serious obstacle for Manchester United if they are to become champions and if Sevilla can be beaten. I'm sure Manchester United will win, and you also need to know Manchater United was eliminated by Sevilla in the semifinals of the 2019-2020 Europa League.
but I believe that with Manchester United's current performance with Erik ten Hag they have changed a lot and still have the chance to win several other leagues after winning the Carabao Cup.
Indeed, Sevilla's meeting record is better than Manchester United. As far as I can remember, apart from getting rid of Manchester United in the Europa League, Sevilla also beat Manchester United in the Champions League. And that happened 5 years ago if I'm not mistaken.
But now it will be a different match, Manchster United under the coach of Erik Ten Hag looks more prepared than the previous season. Moreover, this will be an opportunity for Erik Ten Hag that he deserves to be the Manchester United coach by winning the European League this season.



I don't see much talking about the game between AS Roma and Feyenoord. What do you think about this match?
Actually I don't really follow the Feneyoord club, but when I see their statistics this season, they are amazing, in the domestic league they have only lost once and now they are leading the standings. AS Roma have not been so consistent this season, but will they be able to beat Feyenoord in this match?
On paper Manchester United are being favored to win their UEFA Europa League quarter final tie with Sevilla and which I think is fair going by the performance of the respective clubs this season but I don't think it'll be an easy encounter for Manchester United and if they fail to be on their best Sevilla might beat eliminate them.
Sevilla played ousted Manchester United in 2020 before winning the cup that same season and they have a good record against English opponents in the competition.

Sevilla is the most successful club in the history of the Europa League which means they know how to play in the competition and that's is another reason why Manchester United should be wary of them

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March 24, 2023, 04:26:07 AM
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On paper Manchester United are being favored to win their UEFA Europa League quarter final tie with Sevilla and which I think is fair going by the performance of the respective clubs this season but I don't think it'll be an easy encounter for Manchester United and if they fail to be on their best Sevilla might beat eliminate them.
Sevilla played ousted Manchester United in 2020 before winning the cup that same season and they have a good record against English opponents in the competition.

Sevilla is the most successful club in the history of the Europa League which means they know how to play in the competition and that's is another reason why Manchester United should be wary of them

They've not just won Manchester United, they moved to a final against Liverpool and won with Unai Emery as head Coach as Liverpool lost that final during Klopps first season.
They've recently had change of management I mean the coach, so I don't know if that would make things difficult for Manchester United
The player's are ready determined, taking every single game one after the other, bit I really do hope for them to win this game against Sevilla. On GOD, Hard Work and Team Work.

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March 24, 2023, 04:28:26 AM
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On paper Manchester United are being favored to win their UEFA Europa League quarter final tie with Sevilla and which I think is fair going by the performance of the respective clubs this season but I don't think it'll be an easy encounter for Manchester United and if they fail to be on their best Sevilla might beat eliminate them.
Sevilla played ousted Manchester United in 2020 before winning the cup that same season and they have a good record against English opponents in the competition.

Sevilla is the most successful club in the history of the Europa League which means they know how to play in the competition and that's is another reason why Manchester United should be wary of them

They've not just won Manchester United, they moved to a final against Liverpool and won with Unai Emery as head Coach as Liverpool lost that final during Klopps first season.
They've recently had change of management I mean the coach, so I don't know if that would make things difficult for Manchester United
The player's are ready determined, taking every single game one after the other, bit I really do hope for them to win this game against Sevilla. On GOD, Hard Work and Team Work.
The manager of Manchester United is trying to organize the team in a great way. Manchester United have great players in the team but there are some tactical mistakes in the team. As a result the coach of the team is currently working to fix the tactical direction of the team.

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March 24, 2023, 04:31:05 AM
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I'm favouring Juventus for advancing to the semi finals. I'm aware of how successful Sporting are in this tournament.
However Arsenal and Juventus are not the same type of teams. Each of them has a special kind of game plan for themselves. Sporting's game somehow worked well in the rematch and it led them to even eliminate Arsenal which were the biggest favourite team for the Europa League title. But Juventus' style can be really boring and maybe problematic at the same time. If Juventus outweigh them they can get past them narrowly on aggregate.
Arsenal's team was more stable and stronger than Juventus's. However, they lost against Sporting's match tactics. I wouldn't say that Sporting performed too well against Arsenal. Arsenal performed well in both matches but failed to qualify for the next round. There is no reason to think that Juventus will easily win against Sporting. The first leg is Juventus' home match. If Juventus don't win at home, I don't think they will qualify for the semi-finals. Juventus must win the first leg.
Arsenal were just unlucky in the match against Sporting and Mikel Arteta's squad doesn't seem too disappointed with the result of the match because they still have a definite target of winning the domestic league title this season. And maybe it's true that as you say juventus is not going to win easily against Sporting because I think Sporting alone can hold back so many chances from Arsenal and they were able to get rid of Arsenal in the previous round. But victory in the first leg will be a serious bet for Juventus to surpass Sporting on aggregate points later.

Arsenal had slightly worse luck. At the same time, I would say Sporting had a great performance. The team played well. Despite Arsenal being a strong opponent, Sporting's players were very confident in this match. They attacked a lot. Sporting players performed better than Arsenal. And they deserve to win this match. However, Arsenal is not worried about the Europa League title. They want to secure the Premier League title. And they are able to continue their good performance in the Premier League.

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March 24, 2023, 04:35:03 AM
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I don't think Sevilla in a good form better than Manchester united,and will not be able to qualify to the semifinals. Manchester united have player teams that are stronger than Sevilla and victory was the result. Though, if Manchester united don't take this match serious, Sevilla will send them home.
Sevilla has been facing horrible results in previous matches. People must realize that the position of sevilla is still in a bad position. Sevilla just hired Jose Luis Mendilibar as a new coach but this will not even work. The problem is the team is now must be adapting with him.

Mu will have so many advantages started from sevilla's players must also try to adapt to the new situation in the network. I am doubtful if sevilla will able to win against united.
It will have the same result as betis before. Called sevilla as king of uel is not helping a lot to make the performance from the club to be even better against united.
United will be winning easily without a tough game against sevilla. That's pretty much the same situation as betis. It's time for sevilla now to be kicked from europa league.

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March 24, 2023, 04:47:59 AM
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Manchester United did revert their season very great from early bad to middle super good parts of the season. Now the season is coming to its ending and they are fighting in some cups with hope that they will win some titles and end in top four of Premier League. They are stronger than Sevilla and have better form but they will not have break time in mid of weeks with their fixture.

They will have to pay attention on Bruno Fernandez who is their source of creativeness and key passes. He usually get exhausted when a season comes to its final phase. Ten Hag must consider to give him 10 to 15 minutes resting time when the club has good results.
It's amusing hearing Manchester United fans share their hopes and dreams of winning a quadruple this season lol, Erik Ten Hag has done so well to revert Manchester United's poor and hopeless season to something much better and have a trophy already won this season. Their match against Sevilla will be interesting even though Sevilla is not so good at the moment but if they can hold United's attack down then it will be easy for them to get a good result.

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March 24, 2023, 05:57:43 AM
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I don't think if that's right to compare Arsenal and Juventus and say if Sporting will have a harder game against Juventus than Arsenal or not. It is not the same story for Juventus I think Juventus will try to avoid making the same mistakes as Arsenal in order to avoid giving Sporting a chance to win the game because both teams will use different systems. Arsenal lost the game because Sporting knew their weaknesses and how to overcome them. While Juventus will try not to do the same mistake as Arsenal in order to give Sporting a chance to win the game.
Juventus will look forward to playing defensively, Alegre often does this, and Arsenal tried to solve everything in attack. I'm not sure if Juventus are stronger than Arsenal, rather the opposite, but you're right that the teams will have different strategies and that will determine the outcome. It is very difficult for me to determine a favorite for myself in this confrontation, the teams have equal chances, probably Juventus is more sympathetic to me, but this in no way means that they are stronger than Sporting.
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March 24, 2023, 06:54:23 AM
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Leverkusen might seem like they have the best draw in the quarter finals. But they still need to be really careful anyway. Because Royale Union SG eliminated a solid team like Union Berlin in the previous round. We have all seen how great season Union Berlin have had so far. Therefore it shows how dangerous Royale Union SG can be in this tournament.

Of course Union Berlin weren't like one of the biggest title contenders. Now they will face one of the contenders which is Leverkusen. I really wonder how they will play against another strong German team. Leverkusen are doing well these days.
Since Xabi Alonso has taking over Leverkusen there were good improvement for this team although they were tasted several defeated on Bundesliga but overall Leverkusen performance quite stable under him and regarding this match indeed Leverkusen is the favourite but i won't underestimate Saint-Gilloise because as dark horses team they have already eleminate good team such as Union Berlin and this is their second met against Germany teams and looking forward to see which team will advance to the next round

Saint-Gilloise were very tough to playing at their home so Leverkusen should be careful to them because we all know they can able to overcomes Union Berlin with huge scores and first leg Leverkusen will playing as a host and if they want to qualified Leverkusen should be able to win even if possible win with big scores and if Leverkusen can able to do that then they will be more comfortable to faced second leg

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March 24, 2023, 07:01:17 AM
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Leverkusen might seem like they have the best draw in the quarter finals. But they still need to be really careful anyway. Because Royale Union SG eliminated a solid team like Union Berlin in the previous round. We have all seen how great season Union Berlin have had so far. Therefore it shows how dangerous Royale Union SG can be in this tournament.

Of course Union Berlin weren't like one of the biggest title contenders. Now they will face one of the contenders which is Leverkusen. I really wonder how they will play against another strong German team. Leverkusen are doing well these days.
Since Xabi Alonso has taking over Leverkusen there were good improvement for this team although they were tasted several defeated on Bundesliga but overall Leverkusen performance quite stable under him and regarding this match indeed Leverkusen is the favourite but i won't underestimate Saint-Gilloise because as dark horses team they have already eleminate good team such as Union Berlin and this is their second met against Germany teams and looking forward to see which team will advance to the next round

Saint-Gilloise were very tough to playing at their home so Leverkusen should be careful to them because we all know they can able to overcomes Union Berlin with huge scores and first leg Leverkusen will playing as a host and if they want to qualified Leverkusen should be able to win even if possible win with big scores and if Leverkusen can able to do that then they will be more comfortable to faced second leg

I think Union Berlin who played against Royal Union was not the right team to go further in Europa League as they are used or at least I have seen them playing more defensively than aggressively and that does not work in International Competitions,sure it worked once in 2010 when Inter won the Champions but since then no one else has made it by defending.

Leverkussen on the other hand plays more open football and as such will have better chances to win against such team no matter how strong they appeared to be against Union Berlin,the Bundesliga is still a much better league than the Belgium one.

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March 24, 2023, 08:05:58 AM
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Leverkusen might seem like they have the best draw in the quarter finals. But they still need to be really careful anyway. Because Royale Union SG eliminated a solid team like Union Berlin in the previous round. We have all seen how great season Union Berlin have had so far. Therefore it shows how dangerous Royale Union SG can be in this tournament.

Of course Union Berlin weren't like one of the biggest title contenders. Now they will face one of the contenders which is Leverkusen. I really wonder how they will play against another strong German team. Leverkusen are doing well these days.
Since Xabi Alonso has taking over Leverkusen there were good improvement for this team although they were tasted several defeated on Bundesliga but overall Leverkusen performance quite stable under him and regarding this match indeed Leverkusen is the favourite but i won't underestimate Saint-Gilloise because as dark horses team they have already eleminate good team such as Union Berlin and this is their second met against Germany teams and looking forward to see which team will advance to the next round

Saint-Gilloise were very tough to playing at their home so Leverkusen should be careful to them because we all know they can able to overcomes Union Berlin with huge scores and first leg Leverkusen will playing as a host and if they want to qualified Leverkusen should be able to win even if possible win with big scores and if Leverkusen can able to do that then they will be more comfortable to faced second leg
I even just found out that the current Leverkusen coach is Xabi Alonso who is a Liverpool legend. No wonder Leverkusen is having a pretty good season at the moment while still playing actively in two competitions. I think that even though Leverkusen have had very good performances this season, Gilloise cannot be underestimated and I agree with your opinion. Gilloise was able to compete at the European league level by getting rid of such a strong opponent and they are one of the teams to watch out for. But for this match, I'm also a favorite for Leverkusen to get rid of Gilloise in the quarterfinals.

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March 24, 2023, 08:53:25 AM
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I don't think if that's right to compare Arsenal and Juventus and say if Sporting will have a harder game against Juventus than Arsenal or not. It is not the same story for Juventus I think Juventus will try to avoid making the same mistakes as Arsenal in order to avoid giving Sporting a chance to win the game because both teams will use different systems. Arsenal lost the game because Sporting knew their weaknesses and how to overcome them. While Juventus will try not to do the same mistake as Arsenal in order to give Sporting a chance to win the game.
Juventus will look forward to playing defensively, Alegre often does this, and Arsenal tried to solve everything in attack. I'm not sure if Juventus are stronger than Arsenal, rather the opposite, but you're right that the teams will have different strategies and that will determine the outcome. It is very difficult for me to determine a favorite for myself in this confrontation, the teams have equal chances, probably Juventus is more sympathetic to me, but this in no way means that they are stronger than Sporting.
After beating Arsenal now Sporting is good contender for the title because this was good game and with this win things completely change in this event Juventus is also good side right now even after losing 15 points they are doing good job in Serie A which is surely impressive with this most chances home advantage could be vital in this round for the both teams because if Juventus will be able to have better home result in first leg then surely things could be not easy for the Sporting with Juventus is mostly love to play defensively and this is working for them with too many clean sheets already under their belt but Sporting which is currently at their best will also try their best for the another exciting win and place into next round.
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March 24, 2023, 09:47:46 AM
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I don't think if that's right to compare Arsenal and Juventus and say if Sporting will have a harder game against Juventus than Arsenal or not. It is not the same story for Juventus I think Juventus will try to avoid making the same mistakes as Arsenal in order to avoid giving Sporting a chance to win the game because both teams will use different systems. Arsenal lost the game because Sporting knew their weaknesses and how to overcome them. While Juventus will try not to do the same mistake as Arsenal in order to give Sporting a chance to win the game.
Juventus will look forward to playing defensively, Alegre often does this, and Arsenal tried to solve everything in attack. I'm not sure if Juventus are stronger than Arsenal, rather the opposite, but you're right that the teams will have different strategies and that will determine the outcome. It is very difficult for me to determine a favorite for myself in this confrontation, the teams have equal chances, probably Juventus is more sympathetic to me, but this in no way means that they are stronger than Sporting.
After beating Arsenal now Sporting is good contender for the title because this was good game and with this win things completely change in this event Juventus is also good side right now even after losing 15 points they are doing good job in Serie A which is surely impressive with this most chances home advantage could be vital in this round for the both teams because if Juventus will be able to have better home result in first leg then surely things could be not easy for the Sporting with Juventus is mostly love to play defensively and this is working for them with too many clean sheets already under their belt but Sporting which is currently at their best will also try their best for the another exciting win and place into next round.
After frustrating Arsenal, Sporting Lisbon will certainly be very confident to face Juventus. I think it's normal when the team is in a happy mood. But Sporting Lisbon must remember that they have never won before facing Juventus. Prior to this, Juventus had met Sporting in the 2017/2018 Champions League group phase. At that time Juventus won 2-1 in Italy, then drew 1-1 in Portugal. So, for this meeting, I still favor the Italian representative to qualify for the semifinals.

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March 24, 2023, 10:04:00 AM
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It's amusing hearing Manchester United fans share their hopes and dreams of winning a quadruple this season lol, Erik Ten Hag has done so well to revert Manchester United's poor and hopeless season to something much better and have a trophy already won this season. Their match against Sevilla will be interesting even though Sevilla is not so good at the moment but if they can hold United's attack down then it will be easy for them to get a good result.
Things looking impressive after the International break and Ten Haq is surely doing good job with they already won their first trophy and now having good time in UEFA Cup and The FA Cup with most chances they will be stayed at third in Premier League with this all I have feeling most chances they will be able to own one more trophy, and they have no chance in Premier League which mean quadruple is not possible but double or treble both are under their radar and things can take good change for their success in coming weeks as well.

Sevilla is having good reputation and history in UEFA Cup with in current season they are doing worst in La Liga but still their performance in Europa Cup is impressive which is surely giving them some hopes for having better results against Manchester United even this is not easy game with Manchester United having impressive performance against Barcelona and Real Betis which are doing much better the Sevilla.

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March 24, 2023, 10:26:45 AM
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I don't think if that's right to compare Arsenal and Juventus and say if Sporting will have a harder game against Juventus than Arsenal or not. It is not the same story for Juventus I think Juventus will try to avoid making the same mistakes as Arsenal in order to avoid giving Sporting a chance to win the game because both teams will use different systems. Arsenal lost the game because Sporting knew their weaknesses and how to overcome them. While Juventus will try not to do the same mistake as Arsenal in order to give Sporting a chance to win the game.
Juventus will look forward to playing defensively, Alegre often does this, and Arsenal tried to solve everything in attack. I'm not sure if Juventus are stronger than Arsenal, rather the opposite, but you're right that the teams will have different strategies and that will determine the outcome. It is very difficult for me to determine a favorite for myself in this confrontation, the teams have equal chances, probably Juventus is more sympathetic to me, but this in no way means that they are stronger than Sporting.
After beating Arsenal now Sporting is good contender for the title because this was good game and with this win things completely change in this event Juventus is also good side right now even after losing 15 points they are doing good job in Serie A which is surely impressive with this most chances home advantage could be vital in this round for the both teams because if Juventus will be able to have better home result in first leg then surely things could be not easy for the Sporting with Juventus is mostly love to play defensively and this is working for them with too many clean sheets already under their belt but Sporting which is currently at their best will also try their best for the another exciting win and place into next round.
After frustrating Arsenal, Sporting Lisbon will certainly be very confident to face Juventus. I think it's normal when the team is in a happy mood. But Sporting Lisbon must remember that they have never won before facing Juventus. Prior to this, Juventus had met Sporting in the 2017/2018 Champions League group phase. At that time Juventus won 2-1 in Italy, then drew 1-1 in Portugal. So, for this meeting, I still favor the Italian representative to qualify for the semifinals.

Juventus is a strong team. And since they have no chance of winning the Serie A title, they will definitely try their best to perform well in the Europa League. But the Sporting team is very confident now. They managed to qualify for the quarter-finals by defeating Arsenal. Since Sporting managed to beat Arsenal, it can be expected that the team will do well against Juventus as well. In fact, even though the Juventus team seems to be the favorite in this match, there is no chance to underestimate the Sporting team. The sporting team is tricky. And so they also have a chance to win the quarter-finals.

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March 24, 2023, 10:36:24 AM
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Leverkusen might seem like they have the best draw in the quarter finals. But they still need to be really careful anyway. Because Royale Union SG eliminated a solid team like Union Berlin in the previous round. We have all seen how great season Union Berlin have had so far. Therefore it shows how dangerous Royale Union SG can be in this tournament.

Of course Union Berlin weren't like one of the biggest title contenders. Now they will face one of the contenders which is Leverkusen. I really wonder how they will play against another strong German team. Leverkusen are doing well these days.
Can you believe the way Royale Union SG is carving their legacy in this contest? This just proves that it's unwise to judge teams by their stature, as anything can transpire in the world of sports. It harkens back to the time-honored tale of David defeating the colossal Goliath using merely a sling and a rock. Could Royale Union SG be poised to replicate that feat by vanquishing Leverkusen?
Leverkusen, however, has been thriving under the masterful direction of Xabi Alonso. As favorites, they should keep an eye on their adversaries, balancing caution with self-assurance. The stage is set for a thrilling clash, and we're all on the edge of our seats to see who will emerge victorious!


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All the adequacy of these quotes collapses when we see that the chances of Sevilla are only two times lower than the chances of Juventus (despite the fact that Sevilla has already got into the draw  the favorite of the tournament - United). And Juventus will be waiting for them in the semi-finals  Grin To be honest, I don't understand what math the bookmakers used when they drew up this line.

Hm the odds are interesting but when you think about it, what would you actually criticize? Should Juventus be less, perhaps something around 4.5? I think that Manchester United is the favorite, although the gap between them and Juventus is too big. Roma is probably put at the same as Juventus because they have the "easier" way to go when they win against Feyenoord.

Generally I think the draw is a bit unlucky because in a worst case scenario the final does not sound as spectacular as I would wish for. It's fine if the best teams win, but when the draws pre-determine that big teams must get kicked out because they face each other, I am not sure I like that a lot.

Juventus is one of the favourites, but who is Sevilla? A team that is literally two points from the relegation zone (and this is not the Premier League but La Liga where competition in the basement is weak) has a chance of only two times worse than Juventus (top 2 in Serie A if you do not take into account the penalty). It seems to me that this is complete nonsense from bookmakers, even considering the fact that these are knockout games, everyone has a chance, etc.

I was checking for some information whether there were either Champions League or Europa League winners that struggled hard in the domestic league competition, but what I found was this info about Manchester City in the season 1937/1938. Have a look at it, but as a quick summary, they won the Premier League title in the season before and then got relegated the season after as the team which has scored the most goals! Cheesy
I am quite sure that has never happened before or after.

But back to topic, I guess this is the list you could be interested in and indeed there was no team so far that was really as bad as Sevilla at this point. They have all ranked pretty high, but sometimes they were ending the season miles and miles behind the title winner. Like Ac Milan in 2006/2007 with 36 points behind Inter and yet they won the Champions League final against Liverpool. 

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