OrangeFren.com - instant, KYC-free, exchange comparison

[dkbit98]

I recommend saving the chat ID or bookmarking the chat page. If you have the chat ID simply append it to:

Code:

orangefren.com/chat/[YOUR CHAT ID HERE]

That sounds great.
I did some testing on website and I noticed that even if main window in browser is closed, chat window remains opened and it needs to be closed separately.
I think some exchanges could also introduce something similar for their quick support chat.

[examplens]

Chats are setup in such a way that messages older than 7 days are deleted. So there's no real benefit to creating new chats. You can make one and reuse it forever and the old stuff will be gone all the same.

You can also leave a message with how you wish to be contacted. Ideally an email or simplex invite.

However, the chat history is stored somewhere on the server for 7 days. In addition, anyone with a chat ID can access the log. Sometimes sensitive information can be shared there, so this can represent a potential risk.
I would suggest adding the "clear chat history" option (by user), which would reduce the potential risk.

[OrangeFren]

This was more good news because OrangeFren was involved in the Vienna meetup. Your commitment to the meetup events is commendable and because of that I hope you are receiving positive feedback from the delegates that attended. You did not provide any updates. Was there large gathering? I hope it was a successful event.

What are the next meetups or events you are contemplating organising or sponsoring?

The meetup in Vienna went ok, but the venue messed up. We relied on them to pick a time and day to maximize attendance and they put our event at the same time as another crypto event in their venue. Worse yet the reception was just automatically sending people to the other event when they showed up and said they're there for the crypto meetup.

Our next event will probably be in western Europe since the last bunch were central or eastern (Vienna, Istanbul, Nicosia, Tbilisi, Berlin).

I did some testing on website and I noticed that even if main window in browser is closed, chat window remains opened and it needs to be closed separately.
I think some exchanges could also introduce something similar for their quick support chat.

I'm glad you appreciate this design choice. Most of the customer support queries we get involve information from across multiple pages, hence the decision to make the support chat easy to move around.

Some exchanges and our friends from kycnot.me asked us to share the live chat code with them. We already shared it with one and as we polish it up a bit we'll do the others as well.

However, the chat history is stored somewhere on the server for 7 days. In addition, anyone with a chat ID can access the log. Sometimes sensitive information can be shared there, so this can represent a potential risk.
I would suggest adding the "clear chat history" option (by user), which would reduce the potential risk.

Good idea! We'll roll it out soon. Before we roll it out, if you need the chat removed send us a message and we'll do it manually. I ought to point out that while yes - anyone with the chat ID can access the chat - only the user who created the chat sees his chat ID and nobody will guess it.

[groupmessages]

I just used this website to exchange a small amount of crypto and found it to be accurate and informative in referring me to WizardSwap which did an excellent job at swapping out at a reasonable exchange rate, with excellent speed and a good user interface on both OrangeFren and WizardSwap. Thanks!

[OrangeFren]

I would suggest adding the "clear chat history" option (by user), which would reduce the potential risk.

Done

The live chats on OrangeFren.com now have a delete button that will remove the chat. If you have JS enabled you'll be prompted to confirm the deletion, if you don't the chat is immediately scheduled for deletion (chat is removed from all our servers within a minute or two).

[examplens]

The live chats on OrangeFren.com now have a delete button that will remove the chat. If you have JS enabled you'll be prompted to confirm the deletion, if you don't the chat is immediately scheduled for deletion (chat is removed from all our servers within a minute or two).

Well, this was a quick reaction 
To be sure, the quoted part is only related if the user decides to delete the chat, but if the user does not click on "Delete this chat", the chat session will remain on the server for 7 days, as originally intended. right?

[OrangeFren]

Well, this was a quick reaction 
To be sure, the quoted part is only related if the user decides to delete the chat, but if the user does not click on "Delete this chat", the chat session will remain on the server for 7 days, as originally intended. right?

Almost.
If a user doesn't click on the chat deletion link then messages older than 7 days will be deleted. If there are no messages left then the chat is removed also.

So for instance: if a user messages us with a "Good morning" message once a day, every day, then the chat session will never be deleted, but it will only have the 7 messages from the past week. Older messages will be removed.

[OrangeFren]

We're happy to share with you our brand new SimpleX Bot!

This bot uses Intercambio.app to do trades with any of the services listed on that website, all without leaving SimpleX.

Get it here: link

The bot also allows you to create trades with specific services for instance with eXch 
Please note the bot is very much in beta for now

[paid2]

We're happy to share with you our brand new SimpleX Bot!

This bot uses Intercambio.app to do trades with any of the services listed on that website, all without leaving SimpleX.

Get it here: link

The bot also allows you to create trades with specific services for instance with eXch  
Please note the bot is very much in beta for now

Well done OrangeFren!
Having a SimpleX bot was necessary and waited by the community, thank you for taking the time to develop it

I'll be testing it later today!

As a beta version, does it currently only work with eXch or with all exchanges usable on intercambio.app?

[OrangeFren]

Well done OrangeFren!
Having a SimpleX bot was necessary and waited by the community, thank you for taking the time to develop it

I'll be testing it later today!

As a beta version, does it currently only work with eXch or with all exchanges usable on intercambio.app?

Thank you!
All exchanges from Intercambio.app should work, not just eXch, although I imagine a lot of users will want to use it with eXch and probably FixedFloat.

[JollyGood]

Unfortunately if the reception was directing your delegates to the other venue even after hearing they were there for the crypto event, it would have affected the turnout. I am sure if you ever decided to have another event in Vienna, you will not be using the same location again. With the help of sponsorship and support these small meetups are becoming increasingly important as they are contributing to the crypto ecosystem. Wherever you decide to have the next meetup I hope it will be a resounding success.

The meetup in Vienna went ok, but the venue messed up. We relied on them to pick a time and day to maximize attendance and they put our event at the same time as another crypto event in their venue. Worse yet the reception was just automatically sending people to the other event when they showed up and said they're there for the crypto meetup.

Our next event will probably be in western Europe since the last bunch were central or eastern (Vienna, Istanbul, Nicosia, Tbilisi, Berlin).

[examplens]

All exchanges from Intercambio.app should work, not just eXch, although I imagine a lot of users will want to use it with eXch and probably FixedFloat.

When eXch and FixedFloat are already mentioned in the same context, what do you think about adding some kind of warning to FF that there may be certain aggravating circumstances depending on the origin of the coins? By that, I mean FF's announcement that from now on, they will block all coins coming from eXch.

[OrangeFren]

When eXch and FixedFloat are already mentioned in the same context, what do you think about adding some kind of warning to FF that there may be certain aggravating circumstances depending on the origin of the coins? By that, I mean FF's announcement that from now on, they will block all coins coming from eXch.

Good point. We'll add warnings in the next release.

[dkbit98]

We're happy to share with you our brand new SimpleX Bot!

This bot uses Intercambio.app to do trades with any of the services listed on that website, all without leaving SimpleX.

Amazing work!
I didn't know bots like this are possible on SimpleX chat, but I am glad they do exist.
Great that IP address are not detected this way, but are the any limitations compared to exchanges like Intercambio web version?

[OrangeFren]

Amazing work!
I didn't know bots like this are possible on SimpleX chat, but I am glad they do exist.
Great that IP address are not detected this way, but are the any limitations compared to exchanges like Intercambio web version?

There are no major limitations. In fact the SimpleX bot actually makes it much easier to pick which service you want to use

[OrangeFren]

Stats for searches on OrangeFren.com in February 👀

XMR: 43%
BTC: 24%
LTC: 12%
ETH: 6%
USDT: 4%
BTCLN: 2%
USDC: 2%
SOL: 2%
XRP: 0.37%
BNB: 0.28%
TRX: 0.28%
BCH: 0.24%
ZEC: 0.22%

[BenCodie]

Today we're launching the OrangeFren Plugin!

It's an extension for Chromium-based browsers that exists to safe-guard users from accessing phishing scams aimed against the users of exchanges listed on OrangeFren.com

It downloads a list of known phishing domains from OrangeFren.com once an hour, as well as self-generates possible phishing domains and compares the websites you access against them. The extension is open-source and it does not save or transmit any of your activity.

You can get it here: https://github.com/orangefren/OrangeFren-Plugin/releases/tag/v0.2

Hey! paid2 just told me about this plugin. I think it's one step to something much bigger, as (at least on the firefox add-on store) there are no lightweight, open source phishing protectors.

I would like to ask, do you think it is possible to:
- open source the list of sites that the add-on considers as official?
- opening up the list to be more than just from orangefren?

Maybe, forking for the above wider purpose (to not disrupt the original purpose)?

Great work and I will be downloading the plugin once it is on the FF store. It would be great to see this without reliance on any domain, and on a publicly maintained list instead. This could be a killer add-on for the world if it worked this way.

[OrangeFren]

Hey! paid2 just told me about this plugin. I think it's one step to something much bigger, as (at least on the firefox add-on store) there are no lightweight, open source phishing protectors.

I would like to ask, do you think it is possible to:
- open source the list of sites that the add-on considers as official?
- opening up the list to be more than just from orangefren?

Maybe, forking for the above wider purpose (to not disrupt the original purpose)?

Great work and I will be downloading the plugin once it is on the FF store. It would be great to see this without reliance on any domain, and on a publicly maintained list instead. This could be a killer add-on for the world if it worked this way.

Thanks for the suggestions!
I don't mind sharing the full list with people and letting them add services to it, although the current design would make it quite tedious to push those changes to the users. Hopefully we can find the time to change the current approach to make it possible.

[examplens]

I think there is some glitch in intercambio.app.
I don't think it's an error, you didn't provide all the parameters, so it looks pretty strange.

So I created an order of 0.003 BTC to XMR, where I wanted alternative trades. The option is two possibilities, but it is impossible that there is such a difference, where Pegasusswap offers 1.13 XMR, while eXch only 0.017 XMR



A few minutes before that I was on the eXch page and at that moment there was less than 1 XMR in the reserves, so I assume that your application recognized the maximum available.
This may be technically all right, but probably at that moment some hint should be given to the user so that he knows the reason for such a difference, otherwise, it may create the wrong impression that one exchange is significantly less favourable than the other.

[BenCodie]

Hey! paid2 just told me about this plugin. I think it's one step to something much bigger, as (at least on the firefox add-on store) there are no lightweight, open source phishing protectors.

I would like to ask, do you think it is possible to:
- open source the list of sites that the add-on considers as official?
- opening up the list to be more than just from orangefren?

Maybe, forking for the above wider purpose (to not disrupt the original purpose)?

Great work and I will be downloading the plugin once it is on the FF store. It would be great to see this without reliance on any domain, and on a publicly maintained list instead. This could be a killer add-on for the world if it worked this way.

Thanks for the suggestions!
I don't mind sharing the full list with people and letting them add services to it, although the current design would make it quite tedious to push those changes to the users. Hopefully we can find the time to change the current approach to make it possible.

It might be worth splitting the project into two. One for the current purpose, another that is designed to be community maintained, open source, and for all popular/official services (list maintained by its community).

If OrangeFren aren't able to do this please let me know so I can find someone is interested in working on this, or if someone who is interested sees this, PM me!