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[NotATether]

Dutch (state funded) media had an article last week: Consumers don't care much about the massive number of data leaks. They managed to find a "consumer psychologist" who says people don't really care anymore. To me, this sounds like conditioning people to stop caring about the many privacy violations we have. At least once a year some company leaks my data, and I'm not even talking about the billions of people who take pictures in public and then publish them on social media.
We have quite good privacy laws, but if there's a data leak, there are no real consequences for the company (or government) involved. Meanwhile, they're required to collect more and more data on everything. Even some budget webhosts are now asking for KYC information, and most people just do it.

Abso-fucking-lutely!

Everybody already knew that governments don't really care about us, but it is quite astounding to discover the level of maliciousness these people have to their own constituents.

Crypto is the main way we can fight this which is the main reason they are trying to regulate it hard.

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ETZ-Swap warning

One of our users was conducting a swap using ETZ-Swap yesterday and his swap is now stuck. ETA to resolve is 5 days. Contrary to initial reports no KYC has been demanded. As a standard precaution ETZ-Swap has been delisted from OrangeFren.com

On the website, you still do not have any information about whether a service has been removed from monitoring and why. It is simply not visible without explanation.
I think there was already a discussion about that option earlier, and I really think it would be useful to have something like a log or something.
It is noticeable that the list of active monitoring services changes over time, but that is all we know.

[SirTom7891]

⚠️ ShopinBit's invoicing provider exploited

Really bad news for ShopinBit and all their customers. 
I hope they implemented some privacy method for safely deleting old information, but I doubt that.
This is becoming almost a daily thing, hacks, exploits, leaks... and I think AI tools play a big role in that.

I spoke with a friend who is affected and we're wondering if somebody has already got consequences from this hack? It is a terrible news for the people who have bought a car by ShopinBit, because this must be done with the real ID. But in principle all customers can be exposed as Bitcoin or Monero holder. The data was stolen by a hacker with the name Fingerprint. The online invoicing system was obligatory from April 2026, but ShopinBit has implemented it voluntarily already in October 2025 (if Lando is telling now the truth in his email). And still they have lied to everybody that they are keeping the invoices offline after the first 30 days to prevent data leaks, now we see how it really was

[ABCbits]

Sounds like a regulatory requirement to keep invoices for however long in a cloud and then the cloud got hacked :/

Dutch (state funded) media had an article last week: Consumers don't care much about the massive number of data leaks. They managed to find a "consumer psychologist" who says people don't really care anymore. To me, this sounds like conditioning people to stop caring about the many privacy violations we have. At least once a year some company leaks my data, and I'm not even talking about the billions of people who take pictures in public and then publish them on social media.
We have quite good privacy laws, but if there's a data leak, there are no real consequences for the company (or government) involved. Meanwhile, they're required to collect more and more data on everything. Even some budget webhosts are now asking for KYC information, and most people just do it.

Big and popular company occasionally face consequences, although we know the fine amount is small to amount of money they could earn. For example, https://www.hunton.com/privacy-and-cybersecurity-law-blog/irish-data-protection-commission-fines-meta-e265-million-for-privacy-violations. But based on AI translation, this part of the news is really annoying.

According to him, it can also happen that a driver's license number, bank details or other important data have been stolen. "If I see that my driver's license number is in a data breach, I would apply for a new driver's license." With that specific data, identity fraud can easily be committed.

Het kan volgens hem ook voorkomen dat een rijbewijsnummer, bankgegevens of andere belangrijke gegevens zijn gestolen. "Als ik zie dat mijn rijbewijsnummer in een datalek zit, dan zou ik wel een nieuw rijbewijs aanvragen." Met die specifieke gegevens kan eenvoudig identiteitsfraude worden gepleegd.

How many people would actually do it?

[LoyceV]

How many people would actually do it?

A new driving license costs €53.65, plus a new passport picture, plus at least an hour of your time. A passport costs even more.
What this self-proclaimed expert says sounds good in the media, but I expect almost nobody to do this. Besides, even if you get a new document number, it can easily happen again and all your other data (email/phone/address) is still the same.
What's next? Move physical location after each data leak? You can just as well not even bother to unpack anymore.

I really don't like the direction governments are taking here. They're forcing companies to store more and more data, while the number of data leaks keeps increasing. Most people seem totally fine with this.
I give fake data whenever possible, it's good for privacy. Questionaire outsite? Ignore or make something up. Question where I live (zip-code) at the counter while paying in a shop? I make something up. Webshop that asks my date of birth? They don't get the real one.
But, for others, I can't do that. Insurances for instance need my real date of birth. If I enter it incorrectly, that gives them a reason not to pay out if it's ever needed.

The things they *all* say: "We take good care of your data", "We follow privacy laws", "We only share it with our 1658 partners", "It's ISO certified".
It's almost always BS.

[OrangeFren]

ETZ-Swap warning

One of our users was conducting a swap using ETZ-Swap yesterday and his swap is now stuck. ETA to resolve is 5 days. Contrary to initial reports no KYC has been demanded. As a standard precaution ETZ-Swap has been delisted from OrangeFren.com

On the website, you still do not have any information about whether a service has been removed from monitoring and why. It is simply not visible without explanation.
I think there was already a discussion about that option earlier, and I really think it would be useful to have something like a log or something.
It is noticeable that the list of active monitoring services changes over time, but that is all we know.

Good point. We're working on a timeline feature together with KYCNot.me, but it keeps getting delayed. However the idea is we'll have a smoother way to share info about delistings so that if anyone on either team notices something going wrong then they can delist from both sites and leave only a reason on both within a single operation. Sorry for the delays on this and thanks for reminding me

⚠️ ShopinBit's invoicing provider exploited

Really bad news for ShopinBit and all their customers.  
I hope they implemented some privacy method for safely deleting old information, but I doubt that.
This is becoming almost a daily thing, hacks, exploits, leaks... and I think AI tools play a big role in that.

I spoke with a friend who is affected and we're wondering if somebody has already got consequences from this hack? It is a terrible news for the people who have bought a car by ShopinBit, because this must be done with the real ID. But in principle all customers can be exposed as Bitcoin or Monero holder. The data was stolen by a hacker with the name Fingerprint. The online invoicing system was obligatory from April 2026, but ShopinBit has implemented it voluntarily already in October 2025 (if Lando is telling now the truth in his email). And still they have lied to everybody that they are keeping the invoices offline after the first 30 days to prevent data leaks, now we see how it really was

It indeed seems to be the case that they lied about the offline invoices to their partners (us) and their users and maybe even their sales people which is nuts.


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[logfiles]

ETZ-Swap warning

One of our users was conducting a swap using ETZ-Swap yesterday and his swap is now stuck. ETA to resolve is 5 days. Contrary to initial reports no KYC has been demanded. As a standard precaution ETZ-Swap has been delisted from OrangeFren.com

I see the service is now listed again, I don't know how long ago it got relisted but I suppose the other issue was resolved?
It's like i saw the complaint somewhere (kycnot.me) but I don't see it anymore so it's hard to tell how or when it was resolved.

[OrangeFren]

ETZ-Swap warning

One of our users was conducting a swap using ETZ-Swap yesterday and his swap is now stuck. ETA to resolve is 5 days. Contrary to initial reports no KYC has been demanded. As a standard precaution ETZ-Swap has been delisted from OrangeFren.com

I see the service is now listed again, I don't know how long ago it got relisted but I suppose the other issue was resolved?
It's like i saw the complaint somewhere (kycnot.me) but I don't see it anymore so it's hard to tell how or when it was resolved.

Yes, the issue was resolved and no KYC was required from the user


We're investigating a case of CCE CASH cheating a user with their rate

[LoyceV]

We're investigating a case of CCE CASH cheating a user with their rate

Could this be due to the large amount and availability in the order books where they get their liquidity? Say you sell 1 XMR, and get $500 for it. But if you sell 100 XMR, you get $480 for the last coin? If so, it may be a bug that needs attending instead of intentional selective rate lowering.

[OrangeFren]

We're investigating a case of CCE CASH cheating a user with their rate

Could this be due to the large amount and availability in the order books where they get their liquidity? Say you sell 1 XMR, and get $500 for it. But if you sell 100 XMR, you get $480 for the last coin? If so, it may be a bug that needs attending instead of intentional selective rate lowering.

It could be this. However we have a system in place which allows exchanges to tell us that beyond some threshold (say 0.5 BTC) there is an extra surcharge to account for slippage. I'm sure CCE could implement such a piecewise fee calculation too.


New filter & warning for services that publish info on recent swaps

One user on our SimpleX group suggested we add information about which services publish information on recent swaps. This information typically contains the pairs used in the swap and the amounts.

Example from Bitania:


Example from FixedFloat:


This can potentially hurt user privacy a lot, especially if there's no way to opt out.

OrangeFren.com now has a new warning and filter allowing you to quickly identify if such a service:

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We're investigating a case of CCE CASH cheating a user with their rate

Could this be due to the large amount and availability in the order books where they get their liquidity? Say you sell 1 XMR, and get $500 for it. But if you sell 100 XMR, you get $480 for the last coin? If so, it may be a bug that needs attending instead of intentional selective rate lowering.

That’s the first thing that comes to my mind, too. Some tests have shown that, even with smaller amounts (~$200), the CCE.Cash fee ends up being higher than the stated 0.5% or even 0.8%. The effective cost is about 1.08% in this case.

[OrangeFren]

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We've steadily been increasing the bar services must meet in order to be listed on OrangeFren.com.
First we started to require they participate in the OF Guarantee, most recently we started to require that they issue Letters of Guarantee.

I want to ask you guys, what do you think about us adding an additional requirement that all new services must have their own liquidity?

The rationale is:

• we don't want endless resellers
• we want services to actually have control over the policies they promise
• XMR liquidity on CEXes is going to continue to decrease anyways and we want our users to not be affected

[LoyceV]

I want to ask you guys, what do you think about us adding an additional requirement that all new services must have their own liquidity?

Doesn't that give an unfair advantage to existing services? Say a new guy has only 6 different coins available, but an existing service that uses a third party can offer 800 different coins.

[OrangeFren]

I want to ask you guys, what do you think about us adding an additional requirement that all new services must have their own liquidity?

Doesn't that give an unfair advantage to existing services? Say a new guy has only 6 different coins available, but an existing service that uses a third party can offer 800 different coins.

In your example we would not list the existing service with 800 coins, because they're just a reseller, but would list the new guy with 6 coins

[NotATether]

I want to ask you guys, what do you think about us adding an additional requirement that all new services must have their own liquidity?

I personally don't mind having resellers but they need to be upfront about it. And also who they are reselling would be nice but not a hard requirement

[OrangeFren]

I want to ask you guys, what do you think about us adding an additional requirement that all new services must have their own liquidity?

[...] And also who they are reselling would be nice but not a hard requirement

Good idea!

I think for now we'll give preferential treatment to those with their own liquidity in terms of jumping the queue to be listed and require those that resell to disclose who they are reselling


OrangeFren.com/guarantee

If you want to quickly check info about the OrangeFren Guarantee you can now do so on: OrangeFren.com/guarantee

[LoyceV]

If you want to quickly check info about the OrangeFren Guarantee you can now do so on: OrangeFren.com/Guarantee

Is there any way to relate this to the exchange volume that might qualify for the Guarantee at a given moment? I'm thinking of the scenario in which an exchange exit scams and multiple deposits disappear simultaneously. It matters if a user can get, say, 90% back, or only 5%.

[dkbit98]

I want to ask you guys, what do you think about us adding an additional requirement that all new services must have their own liquidity?

I would not reject them, but I maybe I would think of creating different tiers.
For exchanges with their own liquidity you can offer better terms, lower fees, and more attractive deals.
If reseller-exchanges want to be listed with higher fees and worse terms than let them.

[JeromeTash]

I want to ask you guys, what do you think about us adding an additional requirement that all new services must have their own liquidity?

1. Give high priority to exchanges that have their own liquidity or have an option to filter between exhcanges of own liquidity and resellers
2. You could keep the resellers too on the monitor, just make sure a person trying to swap anything can easily see those that have their own liquidity and the resellers.

We are having so many resellers lately that end up getting rogue

[mikel_012]

OrangeFren.com/Guarantee

If you want to quickly check info about the OrangeFren Guarantee you can now do so on: OrangeFren.com/Guarantee

Hello. This link does not work for me.

I get the error 404 not found

But if I access with the G in lowercase it works: https://orangefren.com/guarantee