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July 15, 2024, 11:03:33 PM
 #7981

This was a predictable final as Spain were the favorites from the start as well as the 1X2 bet with normal time the excitement came when Oyarzabal scored in the 86th minute to seal the win for Spain.

Don't expect England to equalize Spain's game they are always inconsistent, it's just that the pressure from Spain is better while England is locked in their game, I feel Southgate did not drop some players if only 3 were replaced it would not be enough to change the game.
The final euro match between Spain and England was predictable as you rightly said. Apart from the pool from people, the bookmakers also made the odds to favor Spain knowing too well they are the better team right from the beginning of the tournament.

Although I was one of the few people who believed that England could pull a surprise and beat Spain. I heard that believe because England had missed so many finals and Southgate himself many trophies he lost in finals. I was thinking it was the right time for England to right the wrong, but things didn't work as I wished.

 
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July 15, 2024, 11:22:16 PM
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Don't expect England to equalize Spain's game they are always inconsistent, it's just that the pressure from Spain is better while England is locked in their game, I feel Southgate did not drop some players if only 3 were replaced it would not be enough to change the game.

Southgate doesn't understand what he's doing, that's the reason England can be beaten by Spain even just in regular time. Cole Palmer, who had a good performance was put on the bench, and then given the opportunity to play in the 70th minute, it didn't take long for him to immediately score a goal for England.

I think it's enough for the FA to give Southgate a chance, he has been disappointing in 2 EURO finals. It would be better if the FA hired a manager who had more experience managing a big team like England.

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July 15, 2024, 11:32:01 PM
Last edit: July 15, 2024, 11:44:47 PM by Marykeller
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There is such a thing as the Kane Curse, it is very sad, but it is one of the footballers who have the biggest problems in becoming champions. He took part in many final matches, came very close to many championships, but could not manage to win the cup. This is more than just bad luck, this is one of the worst experiences among football players. From now on, I will have faith that the opposing team will win the final matches he plays Cheesy
The failure after failure experienced by Harry Kane in winning the Trophy has now given rise to the term "Harry Kane Curse". It's a shame that a great striker like Harry Kane has never tasted the sweetness of lifting a trophy. Obviously this doesn't make sense, in terms of ability he is a complete package striker, but every time the team he plays for always fails to win a trophy.

Previously, Bayern Munich failed to maintain its dominance after being strengthened by Harry Kane, and now, the England national team has had to reap the failure to win a trophy after being defeated by Spain, in the previous final match they were also defeated by Italy. In fact, England really wanted to win the Euros for the first time, but their dreams were always dashed. Is the failure in the last two final matches related to the "Harry Kane Curse" or is it really not the time for England to win the Euro?
It's really up to 58 years since England won a trophy for themselves. You can see that, it's not just Kane who is cursing about this. The England droughts have existed long enough before Kane's birth. Kane is just been unlucky for any trophy won with England yet. A change of England coach can help him achieve that since Southgate is shown the way out as England's coach. Who knows, he can win a trophy with Bayern Munich before the end of two seasons



For the record, England is among the national teams with longer droughts (without a trophy won).

To read about other nations that are in the same situation as England of no trophy won for a very long time, click here

 
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July 15, 2024, 11:36:08 PM
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Don't expect England to equalize Spain's game they are always inconsistent, it's just that the pressure from Spain is better while England is locked in their game, I feel Southgate did not drop some players if only 3 were replaced it would not be enough to change the game.

Southgate doesn't understand what he's doing, that's the reason England can be beaten by Spain even just in regular time. Cole Palmer, who had a good performance was put on the bench, and then given the opportunity to play in the 70th minute, it didn't take long for him to immediately score a goal for England.

I think it's enough for the FA to give Southgate a chance, he has been disappointing in 2 EURO finals. It would be better if the FA hired a manager who had more experience managing a big team like England.

The English coach has suffered from too much criticism and attacks by sports pundits and ex-footballers. Nobody expected the three loins to make it to the finals. But we saw how the team improved as the competition progressed. Gareth Southgate will remain the most successful English coach after taking them to two successive finals. He doesn't deserve to be sacked because many coaches have not even been able to make it to the quarter-finals of the competition. I think the English FA will not sack him, he would be allowed to keep improving the team.

Regarding the late introduction of Cole Palmer, I think it was a tactical strategy. Each time the Chelsea player is introduced with Ollie Watkins they end up getting a goal. You don't expect Southgate to keep Harry Kane on the bench, he is a player who has a lot of experience and should be respected. You will be surprised that Palmer would have been inactive if he had been played from the beginning. Kane will soon retire from international football and Cole Palmer's time will come. England has hired bigger coaches but none of them have achieved what Southgate has done with the team. 

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July 16, 2024, 12:49:53 AM
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We watched together but felt dissatisfied because England did not provide fierce resistance.
satisfied or not, that's what can be seen in the English team's game. Observers have indeed not favored the English team in several previous matches. but they made it to the final I think it was an extraordinary surprise. We all saw that match, where Spain played better. they get wins and trophies. They deserved this, without underestimating the England team who had fought until the final round. remember they achieved it also not because of luck. we can't blame anyone, just enjoy the game and bet.

Let's remember that in football it's not who deserves it, it's who scores the goals who wins, that's enough, for me England did well, it was one of the teams that also made things very difficult for Spain, of course Holland and England were very unlucky to be eliminated in the end, for me Spain has very good players and partly they had luck, and that's something that can't be denied, for me things always happen for a reason, and this time life, luck and everything favored Spain, of course that's not free, for me Spain showed from the beginning that it is a great team and that it was a potential finalist, and so it was.

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The English coach has suffered from too much criticism and attacks by sports pundits and ex-footballers. Nobody expected the three loins to make it to the finals. But we saw how the team improved as the competition progressed. Gareth Southgate will remain the most successful English coach after taking them to two successive finals. He doesn't deserve to be sacked because many coaches have not even been able to make it to the quarter-finals of the competition. I think the English FA will not sack him, he would be allowed to keep improving the team.

Regarding the late introduction of Cole Palmer, I think it was a tactical strategy. Each time the Chelsea player is introduced with Ollie Watkins they end up getting a goal. You don't expect Southgate to keep Harry Kane on the bench, he is a player who has a lot of experience and should be respected. You will be surprised that Palmer would have been inactive if he had been played from the beginning. Kane will soon retire from international football and Cole Palmer's time will come. England has hired bigger coaches but none of them have achieved what Southgate has done with the team. 
Yes I agree Gareth Southgate has been treated unfairly by football experts and former players. Even though England made it to finals which was surprise he has been criticized a lot. But we should remember that he has done something many coaches have not taken England to two finals in row. It would be unfair to sack him especially since team has improved under his leadership. Decision to bring Cole Palmer into game late was probably smart move since he and Ollie Watkins have worked well together before. Harry Kane is respected player with a lot of experience so it makes sense that Southgate would not bench him. When Kane retires from international football Cole Palmer will get his chance. Southgate has done more for England than many other coaches, and he deserves to keep leading the team. The English FA should keep him on.

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July 16, 2024, 02:53:52 AM
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N.Williams was the man of the match. While there was no goal in the first half of the match, Spain took the lead with Williams' goal at the beginning of the second half, which put England under stress. In the 73rd minute, England managed to equalize the situation after Palmer's goal and could not prevent Oyarzabal's goal just before the end of the match. Oyarzabal managed to bring the cup to his country by scoring the goal that destroyed England in the 86th minute.

Spain's players performed well throughout the match. Basically the match was dominated by the players of Spain. Almost every player in Spain has performed well in his position. Especially Williams and Yamal Spain's two young players performed well in this match.

Apart from Yamal and Williams, Spain's two defenders Laporte and Cucurella also performed well in this match. These two defenders caused England to miss scoring opportunities despite several strong attacks. However, Spain's players performed well throughout the match. And they are a worthy team to be Euro champions.

They did well during the first half, I can agree they dominated the game, yes!! The second half was much different, especially with the absence of Rodri in the midfied who complemented Fabian Ruiz all throughout the road to the finals. Three Lions dominated in the second half of the game if we're to talk about domination, was vexed because Cole Palmer was introduced late.
No doubts about Yamal and Nico Williams, One scored and the other gave assist. Asides that, they had individual performance in the game to show their capabilities and presence.

Laporte is known for how great he is tactically, good with the head and also a great passer of the ball. Most of them all, I love how he reads with game with so much composure. I will never let my hate and dislike for Chelsea hate Marc Cucurella. He has been great both offensive and defensively. He's everything you want in a modern day left fullback.

I want to say the coach is a great man and lastly, I can go without talking about Rodri and Fabian Ruiz who are the core/ spine to this Spanish side. With the Euros won I do think Rodri stands a chance for the next Ballon d'or award. What do you all think?

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July 16, 2024, 06:04:36 AM
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This was a predictable final as Spain were the favorites from the start as well as the 1X2 bet with normal time the excitement came when Oyarzabal scored in the 86th minute to seal the win for Spain.

Don't expect England to equalize Spain's game they are always inconsistent, it's just that the pressure from Spain is better while England is locked in their game, I feel Southgate did not drop some players if only 3 were replaced it would not be enough to change the game.

England had good chances to score more goals, but they were unlucky... Of course Spain looked stronger and they probably really deserved this win, but I wouldn't say it was easy for them... England had just as many good chances, but they couldn't realise them... The second goal in the last minutes for Spain was decisive...
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This was a predictable final as Spain were the favorites from the start as well as the 1X2 bet with normal time the excitement came when Oyarzabal scored in the 86th minute to seal the win for Spain.

Don't expect England to equalize Spain's game they are always inconsistent, it's just that the pressure from Spain is better while England is locked in their game, I feel Southgate did not drop some players if only 3 were replaced it would not be enough to change the game.

I expected England to score a goal in the final game and that is what happened in the game, although we all know how strong Spain's team was and they are very strong against any opponent in this tournament what made England lose this title was the coach, England coach is one of the coaches that will never win a trophy in his career, currently, he is 58 and he has never won any trophy just like Harry Kane, I don’t even know why England is still keeping the coach as their 2026 World Cup coach, in the match between England and Spain, the match should be starting with Cole palmer and Watkins not with Harry Kane, saka and Foden. Harry Kane, saka and Foden are the fault of England but the arrogant coach did not want to remove them in the game.

When a player is having a good performance he should always be used to start a game, if Spain's coach is arrogant like England's coach he will not be using Lamin Yamal but he is a very good coach and he uses the player and he didn’t even mind of his age but England coach is seeing Cole palmer like he can’t play, from my understanding, England is a team that you have to connect to the coach before starting a game for them because if not that why the country will not sack Southgate and employ another coach, well that’s their business and this will be the last time I will support England in any competition.

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July 16, 2024, 07:14:23 AM
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This was a predictable final as Spain were the favorites from the start as well as the 1X2 bet with normal time the excitement came when Oyarzabal scored in the 86th minute to seal the win for Spain.

Don't expect England to equalize Spain's game they are always inconsistent, it's just that the pressure from Spain is better while England is locked in their game, I feel Southgate did not drop some players if only 3 were replaced it would not be enough to change the game.

England had good chances to score more goals, but they were unlucky... Of course Spain looked stronger and they probably really deserved this win, but I wouldn't say it was easy for them... England had just as many good chances, but they couldn't realise them... The second goal in the last minutes for Spain was decisive...

Do you really mean that England was just unlucky? No, I really don't think so, it was a well deserved winning from the Spanish team, because they were more tactically and technically sound than the English team, though the English side gave them a good fight no doubt, but the Spanish team was the better side overall.

And as for the English coach, Garry Southgate, I think he was the primary reason the English team lost this particular game, am saying so because the likes harry Kane and phill foden aren't doing anything in the field of play, before this game, folden has played six matches already without an assist and a goal, instead of the coach Garry Southgate replacing him with cole palmer, he left him on the bench for too long, and that applies to harry Kane also, he was practically ineffective all through, I believe that Watkins and cole palmer would have done more better than harry Kane and phill foden if they have started,  and that is what cost them dearly in this past finals.











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This was a predictable final as Spain were the favorites from the start as well as the 1X2 bet with normal time the excitement came when Oyarzabal scored in the 86th minute to seal the win for Spain.

Don't expect England to equalize Spain's game they are always inconsistent, it's just that the pressure from Spain is better while England is locked in their game, I feel Southgate did not drop some players if only 3 were replaced it would not be enough to change the game.

England had good chances to score more goals, but they were unlucky... Of course Spain looked stronger and they probably really deserved this win, but I wouldn't say it was easy for them... England had just as many good chances, but they couldn't realise them... The second goal in the last minutes for Spain was decisive...

Do you really mean that England was just unlucky? No, I really don't think so, it was a well deserved winning from the Spanish team, because they were more tactically and technically sound than the English team, though the English side gave them a good fight no doubt, but the Spanish team was the better side overall.

And as for the English coach, Garry Southgate, I think he was the primary reason the English team lost this particular game, am saying so because the likes harry Kane and phill foden aren't doing anything in the field of play, before this game, folden has played six matches already without an assist and a goal, instead of the coach Garry Southgate replacing him with cole palmer, he left him on the bench for too long, and that applies to harry Kane also, he was practically ineffective all through, I believe that Watkins and cole palmer would have done more better than harry Kane and phill foden if they have started,  and that is what cost them dearly in this past finals.

I fully agree that Spain won by absolute merit and they also challenged other much stronger teams in their journey compared to England who only found small teams that didn't even worry the English, but let's also say that Spain had the its great luck to go through with Germany who in my opinion would have deserved to go through, regarding England there was no way to win that match they were too much superior, it was the same with Italy, they suffered psychological pressure and they fell, sorry for Kane who hasn't managed to pick up a trophy in his entire career!


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Yes I agree Gareth Southgate has been treated unfairly by football experts and former players. Even though England made it to finals which was surprise he has been criticized a lot. But we should remember that he has done something many coaches have not taken England to two finals in row. It would be unfair to sack him especially since team has improved under his leadership. Decision to bring Cole Palmer into game late was probably smart move since he and Ollie Watkins have worked well together before. Harry Kane is respected player with a lot of experience so it makes sense that Southgate would not bench him. When Kane retires from international football Cole Palmer will get his chance. Southgate has done more for England than many other coaches, and he deserves to keep leading the team. The English FA should keep him on.
Perhaps you are right, but on the other hand, maybe another coach could achieve a better result with such an England team. The whole difficulty is that they won’t find out until they change the coach, but firing a coach because he led the team to the final twice and didn’t win is also stupid. I haven't seen any mention of England changing their coach, and before doing so you need to know who could be a worthy replacement.

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Spain's squad may be relatively strong. However, Argentina's match strategy and players' bonding is very strong. So I don't think Argentina will lose against Spain. The match between Spain and Argentina will surely be very competitive.
Surly the match between Spain and Argentina will be very competitive, with both teams looking so strong in terms of tactics stance, squad etc. Some people are just thinking about that Argentina has a good player so they will be the winners. It's true that they have good players in their squads, but you have to know that Spain also has good players in their squads. Besides that both teams have played the final and won it but you need to understand that Argentina beat a minor team like Colombia. While on the other side Spain defeated a big team, i.e., England. So using this point as evidence I can confidently say that the match will be very competitive because both sides have good players as well as experience in the final. Because both are champions of their own league, i.e Spain has become the champion of the Euro Cup and Argentina has become the champion of the Copa America.  
 
But anyway let's see what happens next in the final and who will be the winner 
Argentina or Espana
I would go for Spain because in every aspect, they are looking strong.
You don't have to call a team minor simply because they are from another continent that is not your most preferred continent which is europe. Colombia defeated like Brazil in the just concluded Copa America. The Euros and Copa America are two different competition that comes with different challenges, that doesn't make team from that side minor to that of Europeans teams. Fine both competitions has ended and their champoins are going to play very soon and we will see how good both sides are when they finally meet. Argentina are worthy Champions no matter the team they defeated, it doesn't make them less to the euros Champions which happens to be Spain. After all Argentina are world champions that also defeated one of the European power house (France). It will be an interesting final between both sides. I will go for Argentina who are holding two trophies currently, they are more experienced when it comes to intercontinental competitions.

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Perhaps you are right, but on the other hand, maybe another coach could achieve a better result with such an England team. The whole difficulty is that they won’t find out until they change the coach, but firing a coach because he led the team to the final twice and didn’t win is also stupid. I haven't seen any mention of England changing their coach, and before doing so you need to know who could be a worthy replacement.
England have not won a Major trophy in the last 50 years and the present coach is the only coach who has brought them twice to the door step of winning but has lost it. There is no better option as coach currently, and there's no time to start trying out now options when the world cup is close. England team are close to winning something, and sometimes when they have suffered this kind of collective loss amongst themselves it may make them more focus in the next competition to make sure that they do not have such an experience again.

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July 16, 2024, 09:50:28 AM
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England had good chances to score more goals, but they were unlucky... Of course Spain looked stronger and they probably really deserved this win, but I wouldn't say it was easy for them... England had just as many good chances, but they couldn't realise them... The second goal in the last minutes for Spain was decisive...
Perhaps one of the golden opportunities was missed to score a goal when there was chaos in a corner kick and luckily Dani Olmo managed to block the header and thwart England's chance to equalize at the end of the match. Spain almost conceded again and if that comes, of course we will be served extra time which will drain all the stamina of the players.

But that's football, even England, which is known to be very bad at this year's Euros, is still trying hard to win the final match. But unfortunately they faced tough opponents and have even been very consistent since the group stage. However, both teams have fought very well, but it must be admitted that they need a comparable performance to be able to beat Spain now.
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Perhaps you are right, but on the other hand, maybe another coach could achieve a better result with such an England team. The whole difficulty is that they won’t find out until they change the coach, but firing a coach because he led the team to the final twice and didn’t win is also stupid. I haven't seen any mention of England changing their coach, and before doing so you need to know who could be a worthy replacement.
England have not won a Major trophy in the last 50 years and the present coach is the only coach who has brought them twice to the door step of winning but has lost it. There is no better option as coach currently, and there's no time to start trying out now options when the world cup is close. England team are close to winning something, and sometimes when they have suffered this kind of collective loss amongst themselves it may make them more focus in the next competition to make sure that they do not have such an experience again.

After what Southgate has achieved with the England national team thus far, it is unlikely that the FA will take the decision to kick him out. What might actually happen is that the FA ties him up with a new contract instead. He might be considered to have failed to win the Euro trophy twice but he had taken England to the final and in fact, there is no other coach besides him who can do all that. So it stands to reason that Southgate is considered the most successful coach among previous England coaches.

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After what Southgate has achieved with the England national team thus far, it is unlikely that the FA will take the decision to kick him out. What might actually happen is that the FA ties him up with a new contract instead. He might be considered to have failed to win the Euro trophy twice but he had taken England to the final and in fact, there is no other coach besides him who can do all that. So it stands to reason that Southgate is considered the most successful coach among previous England coaches.
It is confirmed that Southgate has officially left England as his coach, this is because the aftermath of his national team's poor play has no development even though his team reached the final his game was not so impressive.

Who is the coach candidate for England? Previously there was a discourse about Pep Guardiola but I'm not sure he would accept the offer.

[1] https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1813152328658350294

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July 16, 2024, 10:19:11 AM
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After what Southgate has achieved with the England national team thus far, it is unlikely that the FA will take the decision to kick him out. What might actually happen is that the FA ties him up with a new contract instead. He might be considered to have failed to win the Euro trophy twice but he had taken England to the final and in fact, there is no other coach besides him who can do all that. So it stands to reason that Southgate is considered the most successful coach among previous England coaches.

It is a good news that Southgate bas resign from being the coach of England new players can get better playing time with the new manager that is going to be incharge of the England squad. I always think that the problem isn't the players but the manager because England has one of the most promising talents but they always fail to win a trophy. The coach style of play isn't giving the other talented players opportunity to play and their opponent knows how to make them to not be able to win in the finals. It is a new beginning for England in preparation for the world cup. The task at hand is for the FA to find a worthy replacement and not to be sentimental about the hiring. A foreign coach might be the perfect replacement.

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After what Southgate has achieved with the England national team thus far, it is unlikely that the FA will take the decision to kick him out. What might actually happen is that the FA ties him up with a new contract instead. He might be considered to have failed to win the Euro trophy twice but he had taken England to the final and in fact, there is no other coach besides him who can do all that. So it stands to reason that Southgate is considered the most successful coach among previous England coaches.
It is confirmed that Southgate has officially left England as his coach, this is because the aftermath of his national team's poor play has no development even though his team reached the final his game was not so impressive.

Who is the coach candidate for England? Previously there was a discourse about Pep Guardiola but I'm not sure he would accept the offer.

[1] https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1813152328658350294

It's hard to guess it. But, these names may become potential replacements. One of these names would replace an empty spot as head coach of the England National club.

1. Graham Potter, people are really familiar with his Potter Ball.

2. Pochettino, dis dude is also possible replace South Gate.

3. Howe, though he is still Newcastle's coach, but he may be available if england approach him to be a new coach. I see him as an average coach, nothing special about Howe.

4. Jurgen Klopp, although he said no to coaching the USMNT, but Klopp may be changing his mind about this.

5. Pep Guardiola, i still remember when he said, he was keen on coaching the national team. So, that's probably England's chance to appoint him as a new coach.

In the end, i still prefer for England to take Guardiola because of his achievements in the football club. I think no one doubts him this time. He's one of the best managers ever. And I'm sure England can get their golden era under Pep Guardiola.

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July 16, 2024, 10:36:42 AM
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But that's football, even England, which is known to be very bad at this year's Euros, is still trying hard to win the final match. But unfortunately they faced tough opponents and have even been very consistent since the group stage. However, both teams have fought very well, but it must be admitted that they need a comparable performance to be able to beat Spain now.
Somehow, I hear from the news that the fans aren’t very pleased with the referee, haven’t added an extra 4 minutes after the regular 90 minutes. Fans complaining on how there were too much fouls in the plus minutes and how Cucurella rolled for over 2-3 minutes, living the plus minutes to be played as just 1 minute while ending the minutes prematurely.
It might have seemed so but I wonder, what would England have done in 1 extra minute that they didn’t do in 90 minutes? At the very least, Spain would have just added yet another goal because, England still would have been playing from the back.

Southgate took a bow, England just didn’t give it their best in the Euros2024. They were a good team, but couldn’t make the play.

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