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October 21, 2022, 10:53:32 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

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October 21, 2022, 11:15:50 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?


Post complaints here in the forum or other website that offer complaints system like Askgambler to make the casino alarmed on what they are doing. Most of the time mid tier casino doesn’t pay but high rated casino always pay when the issue became public while the evidence is strong that the player has the claim to the huge profit. Many high rated casino including slot providers has this story and most of them is resolved.

Afaik only 1xbit is the only casino that I know that has a lot of active issue that still operating here despite all the evidence is strong against them. This is the only casino that has exemption to rule. I dunno why this casino still operates while they have a lot of active complaints that still unresolved.  Huh

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October 21, 2022, 11:39:15 AM
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If the casino site had ANN in this forum, I would visit it and complain about my case. I hope they will respond and wait a while because I know that their site has many users who may also have different cases to handle. If they don't respond in a few days, I may open a discussion with the other members and ask for their help solving my case. And if the evidence I provide can help me to get justice, I think the casino site will help solve it because I am not guilty of anything.
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October 21, 2022, 12:00:41 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

Usually a high rated gambling website will not have any difficulty to pay you or any other person who may win big as in such casinos winning big is a daily occurrence because of the huge number of players they have.

If it is the case what I always recommend is to use a desktop recording software and record your gambling session,you can also take screenshots but the video is undeniable proof that you are correct and the gambling website is not,this way they will either pay you or lose a lot of customers because they will be tagged in red here from many forum members.

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October 21, 2022, 12:15:22 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

First you may have to ask the support what's the hold up on your withdraw, if they say they are doing some investigation regarding your big win and so you have to wait. But after several days, if you still haven't got a word from them then maybe you need to make a follow up.

And still if you got no answers then the next resort is to open a scam accusations against them and hopefully they will have to come and respond to your issues. Just save everything, the chat logs, screenshot your winnings etc. etc.

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October 21, 2022, 12:16:11 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

Gather all the pieces of evidence, screenshots of all your pieces of evidence, and post the complaint here and on all the other platforms, if they have an announcement here with an active representative, the community can pressure the representative to address the issue.
A high-rated casino cannot ignore your accusation as long as your complaint is legit and you have not cheated because it will ruin their reputation, gamblers will stop playing here and new players will stop coming in, gamblers have Bitcointalk to thank they have a good venue to post their accusations.


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October 21, 2022, 12:29:30 PM
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Cryptocurrency are mainly decentralized, irretrievable and that tells you sme of the risk you face bgly gambling on a crypto website. You have to recognise the fact and be very choosy on what platform you gamble on. Theist of it is that, it should be a legally registered casino or sportsbook and that would be one way to take up the case when there support system isn't working.
A few gambling platforms might be fully functional online but, som of them have got there head office in a known location some place else. Be it as it may, always ensure the site is licensed and trusted on the forum if it does exist here and then, you could forward a formal accusation, stating the facts and providing the evidence to the case and when that doesn't work, you go legal with them on there registered certificate.

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October 21, 2022, 12:32:48 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
A reputable casino will not do that. but if you get a big win and casino start checking your account. I think that's reasonable. in the case of multiple frauds such as the use of multiple accounts or the use of a VPN in the casino which is detected by the casino compliance system. Of course, this will result in your account and funds at the casino being suspended.

I often see such accusations on forums. on the forum, there are some of the leading casinos. it's just that some players don't want to read the casino rules before they deposit their money. this creates more and more cases of accusations for more casinos.


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October 21, 2022, 12:52:41 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
If you find a gambling site that has a thread on this forum of course you can create a thread to make a bad review with accurate evidence so that people stay away from that gambling site, of course they will lose users if they play cheating, but if a gambling site that you mean never made a thread on this forum of course we can't discuss that too here with your complaint, make sure to play on a gambling site that is also active on this forum, as a case of my account being locked and loading posts to their thread quickly they opened my account again

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October 21, 2022, 12:53:14 PM
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The major reason that casino will start to deny you the winning payment if you have won is if you have done a violation of the rules that they have. If you are playing and you are losing but violation is going on to your account this may not be called out to you but except you have a winning against them and then they start to point that causing delay to your payment.  It is for you to check if you violated the rule they play on but if you are having no violation, you can do any of this:

1. To put a complain in the ANN of the casino.

2. You can use their social media to do your complain.

3. You can report here
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October 21, 2022, 12:54:58 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
A gambling website with a high rating will be concerned about reputation because that is how they have gotten to where they are, so they may have a good reason for deciding to make your withdrawal process difficult by refusing to pay. You have to be sure that you have not broken one of their terms and conditions that you agreed to, Create a discussion about it here first, so you hear from people who have been in same situations, before you can decide taking Legal actions against them.

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October 21, 2022, 01:05:00 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

-   Maybe the best thing to do is if you have evidence, like a screenshot crypto balance on the platform itself that you have and you won, I think

that's strong evidence that can be considered.

Or you can also create a topic here on this forum platform and ask for guidance from the long-time members here on this forum platform, with

the help of other members here you will be given guidelines in any case of such a situation.

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October 21, 2022, 01:17:30 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

If this is a high-rated website you're talking about then there's no reason why they will refuse you to pay, there must be a reason why they refuse, and the best action is to ask them if you committed a violation and if the violation is true then you can't do anything about it if not then it's better to make it public by opening a complaint here and if they have a representative here ask him to address the issue and let the public judge on who is right and if the casino has the right to refuse you, a reputable casino will always keep their promise.

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October 21, 2022, 01:21:57 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

The best thing you can do to yourself is to select a casino that it is not known for not paying out their users.
It is like giving your money to a bank that you are not aware if it is going to return them back or not.
Hopefully, we have bitcointalk and other forums that you can see reviews about casinos and other platforms and to be alerted where you invest your money.
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October 21, 2022, 01:28:37 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

this is mainly the problem of anonymity and a lawless market, casinos, casino owners in most cases are anonymous, so it's easier for the casino to commit abuses like blocking people's accounts without a valid reason or else it's easier to casino steal the person's money and disappear and there is nothing that the injured party will be able to do to recover the money, even when the case ends up in this forum the casino can claim that the customer broke the TOS and that's it the matter is closed, because it doesn't have another third party on the forum that can verify the evidence that the casino has to guarantee that the customer really broke the TOS and as they are anonymous the person has no way to file a complaint with the police, the government authority of curation that issues licenses doesn't even do anything in cases of scam

The major reason that casino will start to deny you the winning payment if you have won is if you have done a violation of the rules that they have.

we have seen many cases where the casino only claims that the winning customer cheated but never show evidence that the customer cheated, many casinos have used their TOS as weapons to not pay customers and block them, unfortunately the casinos that do this are not punished, there is a casino here on the forum that has been constantly using their TOS to freeze and block people's funds

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October 21, 2022, 01:50:37 PM
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First of all - make screenshots from you account that proves your words. After that create post in the casino thread, without emotions, just facts. And try to attract attention of the users. If you have blog, twitter or other social media with a lot of subscribers - write their about all the situation. And write about all the changes.

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October 21, 2022, 02:05:46 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
Can't understand your language from your question, your intent and purpose, try to write more clearly, the meaning of your question.

My assumptions about your question.
• How to find out online gambling sites pay your money, if you win, obviously Reputation, that's what you ask for.....!


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Currently, there are indeed many online gambling sites that use crypto-based payment methods, whether it's an old or new site, the problem is responsibility, being honest with users in paying winnings.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
If it's really that big you can hire a lawyer to send a request on your behalf and send a request to their license issuer to disable their license, second, you can post your argument here in Bitcointalk, there are many instances that Bitcointalk has helped players that casinos refuse to play, but if they are known scammers you'll have a hard time getting your money, just make sure that you are clean that you have not cheated, and you abide on their rules.

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If the casino site had ANN in this forum, I would visit it and complain about my case. I hope they will respond and wait a while because I know that their site has many users who may also have different cases to handle. If they don't respond in a few days, I may open a discussion with the other members and ask for their help solving my case. And if the evidence I provide can help me to get justice, I think the casino site will help solve it because I am not guilty of anything.

If the casino you are dealing is not giving you a firm answer via CS, I’m sure that they ignore you too on there ANN thread until your post looks like a spam to them. Posting on reputation board is more appropriate to properly report a scam or mishandling cases like OP hypothetical scenario above. Reputable casino will answer the issue upfront and would never hold the player withdrawal unless there’s a malicious activity on his account. This issue will be resolved after undergoing KYC tho.

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First, you have to make sure that you deserve the prize. There are cases when gambling platforms refuse to give the prize because it is won via a violation of their terms and conditions or in unfair ways. For example, you won the jackpot but it is found out that you are a resident of a blacklisted country. You might not receive your money in this case. Or if you've won the jackpot through a bet that is already beyond the maximum.

There are actually many possible reasons why a prize could be forfeited. Whether or not it is fair for the platform to allow the gambler to bet only to be told of his/her violation once he/she has won big, that's another story.

But if you're already certain that you truly deserve the prize or that you won it fair and square, then communicate with the platform's official channels. If they still won't pay up, then you could bring the case to a competent lawyer for possible legal proceedings against the site.

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First step is to always contact support through live chat or email. This way they will have to justify the reason why the payment was denied. Right after, you can appeal to make them revert the decision and finally allow the withdrawal.

If they don't present a good reason to deny the payment or if they simple refuse to reply your message, you can bring all the collected evidences so far to this forum, creating a thread at the respective forum section (scam accusations).

You can also register a complain at local sites from your country where people post their reviews about companies they deal with. There is a very efficient one here in my country where every companies immediately reply and solve the issue when quoted by customers. There must be something like this for your country as well.

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October 21, 2022, 03:08:23 PM
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Basically the user has to analyze himself whether he really won fairly. If the casino finds something odd as you won,  they will look at the account thoroughly. If base on their information you did something irregular, its going to be an issue for them not to send you funds. You really have to look at yourself whether you have faults or it will just be costly for you to file lawsuit.

If you won fair and square I don't see any reason to hold your money but they may ask KYC first, I saw stake asked source of funds.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
Assuming that you have not done anything against their ToS or violated their rules, one of the best things to do is to contact support and ask for more information regarding the matter at hand. Also, while waiting for their response, I suggest that you gather supporting evidence and proof about your account such as screenshots of what happened and how you are not able to withdraw your funds.

If in any case, they won't answer your question or have not provided any clear information, I suggest that you contact them here on the forum and expose your issue to the public. This way, you'll be able to get their attention as they'll be risking their reputation if they will not be able to answer and provide any clarification on your issue.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

The situation is of course sad if this happens, well, of course it is necessary to contact the support of the platform and negotiate with them, collecting all the invoice for further action. In case of refusal to pay for non-obvious reasons, you can file a complaint with the gambling regulator.
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

There isn't much to do when you are dealing with crypto gambling casinos.
Ofcourse you can raise a scam accusation on this forum and that will help many others.
If the site cares about their reputation then they might pay you but if not then they won't.
In this case you can go the legal way by hiring an advocate but that will involve an expense and won't guarantee that you will win.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

Before you take legal action against the gambling company you must ensure that you have exhausted all the internal complaints channels. Use all the necessary channels to contact the company and ensure you keep their replies and chats for evidence. I am sure highly-rated gambling firms wouldn't want to lose their reputation because of your win because they're worth more than your win. That is why it is advisable to use gambling platforms that are well-known in this forum because this forum has a very good channel to accuse or complain about a gambling firm. You might also decide to carry out a social media war against the company.      

Taking legal action against the firm would depend on the laws of your country and this would be justiceable only when this firm is registered in your country. It might be very difficult and expensive to pursue justice if the firm is registered in another country that is far from your location. You might also post in the legal section of the forum to seek more legal advice or consult a legal practitioner.

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October 21, 2022, 04:54:06 PM
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Some of these have been voiced above, some not... also assuming t&c is not violated or dumb, e.g. max cashout $500 per day. These websites exist.

1. Make screenshots. Actually, make it a habit, when it comes to big wins

2. If funds are not paid - talk to support.

3. Be ready they will carry out KYC

4. It is normal for a casino to reach out to a gaming provider to see if there is nothing strange about the big win and might take a day or two

5. If after all above they start giving you nonsense stories, like requesting your marriage certificate or saying that they need your photo in 3723x1234 resolution, then it is a time to start worrying

6. Reach out to a mediator or even several. For example, Askgamblers

7. Reach out to a regulator. Curacao sometimes may seem useless, but they are not completely useless

8. Reach out to a game provider. Most have websites and contacts. If it is a shitty provider, look up all the game providers casino has on the website and mail all of them. Repeat every three days. state the facts and question why on earth they work with a scam provider

9. Prepare it will take time
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Depends on the site, If you play on a scam site there is no way you can get the money. Most of they do, will act you act against their term & condition (Playing on restricted county, abused promotion/referral, and some shitty reason). Most of casino, is using a virtual office + curacao license and it's really easy to be get. I don't think you can chase them + legal fee is more expensive than my winning.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

Hire some wise guys to break their legs. I am joking of course. Although that would be a dark option  Tongue

The best thing to do is to make them nervous by showing proof of their unfair actions to their social medias. They really do not want to lose customers so they will be sure to quickly remedy the situation. This has proven true time and time again. Unless, of course, the gambling casino website in question is scamming on purpose and does not care about user retention. In which case you might have a problem. Especially since they probably covered their tracks in some offshore country known for its corruption...

In that case, bad luck.

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Could you believe I read a case like this from a local newspaper in my country, it's really disheartening for anyone to legally win a bet or lottery only for the company to start playing pranks. I guess the best is to report to a board/regulator in charge of gambling in their country after a failed attempt to get the money back from them. This is a dispute and the police might not be able to help in terms of jurisdiction or lack of technicality in the case. It is after this you can file court charges if the regulator could not help. But you must be sure you are dealing with a duly regulated company and have money to do all these.

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If they didn't pay you after winning huge amount and they also have ann thread here in the forum then you should post a scam accusation thread and provide the proof that they didn't plan on paying you with the amount even if the said amount is not even comparable to their bankroll if they have huge bankroll. If it is online then at least try to send message their customer support and ask why they didn't pay you. It may be because you have somr fault in your part like maybe you might have violate their rules.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
If that is the case then you have to take it to the public first before thinking about legal actions, like posting about this in public forum and tag them to get a proper response and still you're not convinced then you have to contact the lawyer and probably you can even ban the gambling platform in your country.

Which is unlikely to happen with reputed casinos, every casino had max payout limit and also their terms so they can only refuse to pay when you violated any if their rules of the game or using the platform.









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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
But a casino can not refuse to pay you your funds if two things are not involved, i.e either the casino is a scam or you cheated to win such game. Because in as much as the fund was won legitimately, and the casino is genuine, you will definitely have your funds paid up. And that is why I always try to advise people to gamble on casinos who has an active presence here on the bitcointalk forum, so that it's representative can help aid to recover your funds from the said casino in times of trouble like this. So in that case, the first step will be to lay a complain on the "Scam accusation" section of the forum, why you wait for the casino representative to handle the issue amicably

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

There are several solutions to this matter, this is just one example of how the scenario could play out. So, in order to make sure that the platform pays up your money in the event that they try to pull a fast one on you, you can use a mediator to act as a middleman between the two parties. This is a service that you can find online or chosen by the platform, but I recommend using an independent third-party mediator because they will be more likely to have no affiliation with either party, and therefore be less likely to take sides. This way, if the dispute arises, you can have a neutral third party arbitrate to help you make a decision on how to proceed and negotiate a fair settlement with the platform.

A mediator cannot force a gambling platform to give you your money. Their only job is to convince the platform to pay up your money as long as you have backed up your claim with proper documentation and evidence. But if submitting your case for review does not help resolve this matter, then the only thing you can do is take legal action against the platform in an effort to finally receive the prize money owed to you. This can be time-consuming and costly, so make sure that you have enough evidence and data to back up your case if you chose to proceed with this course of action.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
That's really not a good sign for a site even if they are a high rated site because there's no way you won't be able to be paid without a valid reason from their side. First thing first is to have it recorded or take some screenshots regarding the matter and look for ways to put this issue in a legal way.
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
The first thing to do is to ask the customer service directly, if they give an unclear statement about this, then you should make a report or create a thread on this forum, even better if their manager is on this forum, then you can directly give a dm, or reply to the post. So that they can find out and provide solutions, even this can be a lesson and experience for many people.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

I think if you’re gambling with a reputable company then you won’t have this problem. That’s what makes them a reputable company. If for some reason you do have issues, the first thing you need to do is make sure that you didn’t break any rules or do anything illegal. If everything on your end is good and your identity is on file with the casino, then I would first see if you can work the issues out with them. If not, then you can post exactly what happened here and see if the community can be of any help.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
Honestly, I think all you can do is complain, and this forum is a good place to start, though if the platform have made up their mind not to pay, I don't think complaining will make them change their mind, if gambling is legal in your region and you can afford it, and also if money in question is worth the hassle, then I would suggest hiring a lawyer to sue the casino, this can be the only effective way that guarantees you receiving your winnings, but it will cost you both time and money.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
Low to mid-tier or rated then this is where i do believe that blocked withdrawals or alibis just not for them to pay would really be likely to happen but not into those reputable ones.
They wont really be reaching out on being reputable or popular if they werent that paying when they are just starting or just been new in the business.They might be experiencing some
issues yet there's no such thing about perfect reputation which issues and complaints might be raised up but eventually it gets resolved and they wont really be risking on tarnishing their
reputation that they had build up for years and they cant just afford and would really be that sensible that they would really be resolving issues as much as they could.
For those who didnt pay then its better to post up accusations so that people on the community would be aware.

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October 22, 2022, 05:32:07 AM
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Generally looking for reasons and contacting support will make it clear to find the source of restriction, checking all possible variations before accusing casino for scamming is my suggestion. If casino management refuses to pay, you can open scam accusation and fill reviews on mentioned websites of this thread.
As you said the best thing to do is to contact the supporters team and explain what you have experiencing or what you have passing through in the platform to them and I believe that there is no way they will not reciprocate to you provided it concern they casino platform. Because filing an accusation to them will not also make it then to pay you if they found out so the best way is to chat up with them politely other through email all through their supporting thing of Live chat to help you out.
Don't forget to be patient for a while because they need time to investigate our case and see if it's their fault or ours.
But usually, many can't wait for a while, especially if they win a lot of money and that's normal because they think that they won't be able to get that big winning money in the end.
But if the big win is pure because they played honestly and there are no indications of cheating, the casino should have no problem withdrawing the winning money immediately.
But if they still intend to charge the casino with fraud, that's also up to them because maybe the casino just can't pay the very big winnings to the winner.

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Generally looking for reasons and contacting support will make it clear to find the source of restriction, checking all possible variations before accusing casino for scamming is my suggestion. If casino management refuses to pay, you can open scam accusation and fill reviews on mentioned websites of this thread.

This is the hard part since you cannot do anything if the gambling website tried to scam you, and even if you report it to authorities there are a lot of documents needed before it proceeds. It will just consume your time and money. And, sadly we can only report it to forums just like BCT which can alarm people about the scam tactics of the gambling site.

And as mentioned above, we cannot rely on reviews because some of them are just paid reviewers or they are just reviewing their gambling sites.
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And as mentioned above, we cannot rely on reviews because some of them are just paid reviewers or they are just reviewing their gambling sites.

if the gambling platform is on the forum, of course, we can see the reputation of the casino. not to mention the casinos that have representatives on the forums, that's also important because they can help us when there are difficult problems to solve with the support team on the web.

including if there is a problem with the big wins that we get but they refuse to pay, of course, there is a problem with our account. or indeed the casino is in trouble.
I doubt this will be done by a casino with a good reputation on the forums.

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If this happens then what we have to do is to send a message to them on the website and make a village that we are experiencing then wait for a response from them if indeed the site can be trusted then the big victory we get will definitely be given, but events like this often happen on unofficial sites and they only take advantage of the users and they only give small victories to the participants, and the rules applied are not in accordance with what happened like your current events, if this happens on the official website maybe they are investigating and waiting until your payment can be made.

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In this forum, there are two or three places you can lay the complain here. You can complain in the scam and accusation board, The casino ANN thread if there is any and the manger of the casino signature campaign if there is any. With these three places with strong evidences that you won the game (s) and you  were not paid. The forum intelligence on scamming issue will look into the matter and invite the Manager of the casino signature campaign thread and the Manger of the ANN thread to come and explain their parts of the allegation.

Then outside the forum you can complain in askgambler. Before you start the complain make sure screenshot or copy all the conversations between you and the casino support team as evidence.

That is what I have for you. Please before gambling in any casino online read T/C before gambling to know whether you have violented the company Policies.









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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

No lawyer will go after the casino especially if the casino is located in a foreign country. The best way to solve this, is creating a forum thread, showing evidence of how you got scammed, leaving negative trust ratings and creating a flag.

If the casino operates in the same country you live in, then yes, you may sue them and get your money safely but most of these casinos operate in those small Caribbean countries.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

big gambling sites, will always pay winnings if you are worthy in all their gambling requirements, but as evidence you can prepare what is needed to be evidence later when the platform audits your data,
But what if the site ask for KYC when you surely not violated any rules? this is the problem most of the time here in crypto gambling though very little to happen in Long time gambling sites, but always remember that gambling will always risky either in betting or in gambling site that we chooses to enter and play.
so best to understand the situation and only deal in trusted site we have here in forum.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

I think if you’re gambling with a reputable company then you won’t have this problem. That’s what makes them a reputable company. If for some reason you do have issues, the first thing you need to do is make sure that you didn’t break any rules or do anything illegal. If everything on your end is good and your identity is on file with the casino, then I would first see if you can work the issues out with them. If not, then you can post exactly what happened here and see if the community can be of any help.

The problem is that there are gamblers who play on some mid tier casinos and obviously this is what they will get when they won big. There will be problems when they try to withdraw and will give every reason in the book not to processed or delay it. In your case if you really think that you didn't violate any ToS then you have every right to demand your winnings. As others have said, if they have a live support chat then talk to them and ask for the reasons why they are delaying your withdrawals. Just make sure to screenshot and capture every chat and logs and email.

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Generally looking for reasons and contacting support will make it clear to find the source of restriction, checking all possible variations before accusing casino for scamming is my suggestion. If casino management refuses to pay, you can open scam accusation and fill reviews on mentioned websites of this thread.
As you said the best thing to do is to contact the supporters team and explain what you have experiencing or what you have passing through in the platform to them and I believe that there is no way they will not reciprocate to you provided it concern they casino platform. Because filing an accusation to them will not also make it then to pay you if they found out so the best way is to chat up with them politely other through email all through their supporting thing of Live chat to help you out.
Don't forget to be patient for a while because they need time to investigate our case and see if it's their fault or ours.
But usually, many can't wait for a while, especially if they win a lot of money and that's normal because they think that they won't be able to get that big winning money in the end.
But if the big win is pure because they played honestly and there are no indications of cheating, the casino should have no problem withdrawing the winning money immediately.
But if they still intend to charge the casino with fraud, that's also up to them because maybe the casino just can't pay the very big winnings to the winner.
What's necessary in this scenario is to get in touch with the management of the platform first, so if their is anything wrong with the site, i think it's easier to understand and sort it out. Anyone who is complaining of a case of funds is not afraid of investigation, it's clear and understandable from my perception, except it's a situation where by you are complaining without fact, actually everyone knows that they will look into the account before responding to a complain.
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

Prevention is always better than cure. The best thing to do is to bet on a trusted site, with years of reputation in the forum, and if they hold your funds it will be for some misunderstanding that you will be able to clarify.

If you do not do that and it is a site that you are not sure of the reputation, two things can happen, that it is actually legit and what I have described above happens, or that they are scammers, with which, in the previous comments they have already explained how to proceed but you can forget about your money.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
That's the difficult thing to answer. It's basically you can't force them even make a report to the officials caused by they have been operating abroad from your country. What you can do to push them to pay what you deserve it. There are some members have been facing such problems. They were refusing to pay the big winners. IMO if mid casino may not have ability or enough funds to pay the winner. that's why using most crowded site is a must

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Generally looking for reasons and contacting support will make it clear to find the source of restriction, checking all possible variations before accusing casino for scamming is my suggestion. If casino management refuses to pay, you can open scam accusation and fill reviews on mentioned websites of this thread.
As you said the best thing to do is to contact the supporters team and explain what you have experiencing or what you have passing through in the platform to them and I believe that there is no way they will not reciprocate to you provided it concern they casino platform. Because filing an accusation to them will not also make it then to pay you if they found out so the best way is to chat up with them politely other through email all through their supporting thing of Live chat to help you out.
Don't forget to be patient for a while because they need time to investigate our case and see if it's their fault or ours.
But usually, many can't wait for a while, especially if they win a lot of money and that's normal because they think that they won't be able to get that big winning money in the end.
But if the big win is pure because they played honestly and there are no indications of cheating, the casino should have no problem withdrawing the winning money immediately.
But if they still intend to charge the casino with fraud, that's also up to them because maybe the casino just can't pay the very big winnings to the winner.
What's necessary in this scenario is to get in touch with the management of the platform first, so if their is anything wrong with the site, i think it's easier to understand and sort it out. Anyone who is complaining of a case of funds is not afraid of investigation, it's clear and understandable from my perception, except it's a situation where by you are complaining without fact, actually everyone knows that they will look into the account before responding to a complain.
I think you are right. Without contacting the platform management and just waiting for their response, we won't be able to get it done, although if we do that, there's also no guarantee it'll be over in no time.
They would help if they cared about his reputation and would instead be willing to investigate our case as soon as possible.
And maybe they will compensate more if they end up making a mistake.
But that will not happen if we play on a site that does not have a reputation because they will let cases happen to their members instead.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
Well, if you're playing in a high rated casinos with good reputation, often they're fast to resolve such problem because they dont want this single issue to ruin their reputation. But that is, if your winnings are legit and you dont break any rules stated on their T&C. What you can do is to contact their support, it's the fastest way to raise your concern. If nothing happens you can post here in scam accusations with all your proofs (it would be good if they have an active announcement thread here) to spread awareness also to other users. If the casino has a licensed, you can contact their regulators for help and to investigate.

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To me first I must checked on their compliance to know if I m able to make withdrawal or not, then will also check their withdrawal limits to know how much I could withdraw per day and weeks or even months then followed by kyc if all this are put in places are you still don't allowed to withdraw, I will contact their customer support via live chat, also in the forum to know if their customer representative will get a feedback to me. If all these are done and yet nothing has been taken places I have no option to declare them scammer on the accusations sections.
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
I have been on this forum for 6years now and I frequent the Scam accusations sections and also been a part of different casino's signature campaigns.

What I have seen is that 99% of cases are in the reality the customer using some unfair mean to launder their money or cheating the system meaning the casino was doing fair business. In the rest 1% of cases where the casino was actually at fault, they did enough from their part to compensate the user, but such cases actually are very rarely happening but if reported get resolved quickly.

So there are two sides of the story and I am always willing to know both sides before commenting. A reputed casino would not hold back payouts unless they have a very serious reason to.

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5. If after all above they start giving you nonsense stories, like requesting your marriage certificate or saying that they need your photo in 3723x1234 resolution, then it is a time to start worrying

I thought I had already seen all the nonsense arguments that some scam casinos like to give to not pay customers, but this is the first time I read that the scam casino can also ask for a marriage certificate, I honestly can't understand why they would ask for a marriage certificate ? these scammers have no limits, they think people are too stupid not to realize that it doesn't make sense for them to ask for certain documents and worse than asking for a high resolution photo when the person has already sent them a very visible photo is another thing that irritates, and irritates because the damned ask for all this but they are anonymous.

If you won fair and square I don't see any reason to hold your money but they may ask KYC first, I saw stake asked source of funds.

certain casinos know very well that customers are winning fairly but they don't pay, and they do it to steal people's money, you can see this in this casino:

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these big scammers use their TOS to not pay, for them most people who win are cheating and have had many such cases in other casinos, and they always use their TOS to not pay. That's why people have to be careful, don't create accounts and make deposits in shady casinos, there are good casinos like stake and so many others that are on this forum

If in any case, they won't answer your question or have not provided any clear information, I suggest that you contact them here on the forum and expose your issue to the public. This way, you'll be able to get their attention as they'll be risking their reputation if they will not be able to answer and provide any clarification on your issue.

posting the problem here on the forum is a good thing because it can price the casino to solve the problem, but the casinos have a big weapon: "their TOS", even if the customer is right, but if the casino claims that the customer has too many accounts so who else can deny if the casino is the only one that has customer records? that's the problem

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

The right thing to do first is to ask why are not they paying you, find out first what they need from you so you can give them what they want, then screenshots of all the pieces of evidence like your transactions and your communications from the casino and most important, is your dashboard, you can post it here in Bitcointalk, askgambler or popular platform where they will be alarmed on your issue, there are many cases where tey resolve the case after the issue was posted her in Bitcointalk and other platforms.

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October 23, 2022, 10:53:31 AM
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To me first I must checked on their compliance to know if I m able to make withdrawal or not, then will also check their withdrawal limits to know how much I could withdraw per day and weeks or even months then followed by kyc if all this are put in places are you still don't allowed to withdraw, I will contact their customer support via live chat, also in the forum to know if their customer representative will get a feedback to me. If all these are done and yet nothing has been taken places I have no option to declare them scammer on the accusations sections.
That's what you should do before playing gambling so you won't break the rules they wrote. Meanwhile, if you've got a big win and just checked their rules, I guess you made a mistake because you didn't check it beforehand before you signed up. The thing that casinos usually ask of you before allowing or continuing the withdrawal process is to ask you to do KYC and only then will they continue the process. And indeed, you can ask customer support via live chat to find out how to solve your case. And you can also create a thread on their ANN to ask about your case so that they can help to resolve it.

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October 23, 2022, 11:15:37 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
So that's why there is a need for a forum, as a forum for everyone's information or experience, of course if that happens, you can report it on this forum, even better if the manager of that party is on this forum. Of course we don't want conflict, we hope it will be a solution every time if something happens, because everyone can make mistakes.

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October 23, 2022, 11:27:52 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
All I knew about the process is the general one, I might still be wrong about it though. As far as I know, we can complain and submit a report to the governing body of the casino, the platform/governance where they acquired their gambling license. I've read some threads and articles telling they will pursuit the casino, but haven't heard of the result. It's a long process and an expensive one for sure.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
Well, if you're playing in a high rated casinos with good reputation, often they're fast to resolve such problem because they dont want this single issue to ruin their reputation. But that is, if your winnings are legit and you dont break any rules stated on their T&C. What you can do is to contact their support, it's the fastest way to raise your concern. If nothing happens you can post here in scam accusations with all your proofs (it would be good if they have an active announcement thread here) to spread awareness also to other users. If the casino has a licensed, you can contact their regulators for help and to investigate.

Here in the forum, there are a lot of gambling casinos which is already building a good reputation and last long for over a year the number of players here have already experience and filtered out the information if this gambling is ideal to play but of course still don't forget to make your own background research, not all the gambling casino is suitable with your gambling habits it is good if you check what are the perks, bonuses, deposits, withdrawals, terms and condition and faqs of the platform so before playing you didn't waste your funds as a deposit just to play.

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October 23, 2022, 12:59:36 PM
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To me first I must checked on their compliance to know if I m able to make withdrawal or not, then will also check their withdrawal limits to know how much I could withdraw per day and weeks or even months then followed by kyc if all this are put in places are you still don't allowed to withdraw, I will contact their customer support via live chat, also in the forum to know if their customer representative will get a feedback to me. If all these are done and yet nothing has been taken places I have no option to declare them scammer on the accusations sections.
That's what you should do before playing gambling so you won't break the rules they wrote. Meanwhile, if you've got a big win and just checked their rules, I guess you made a mistake because you didn't check it beforehand before you signed up. The thing that casinos usually ask of you before allowing or continuing the withdrawal process is to ask you to do KYC and only then will they continue the process. And indeed, you can ask customer support via live chat to find out how to solve your case. And you can also create a thread on their ANN to ask about your case so that they can help to resolve it.
Based from how the OP asked the question, it looks like he knew the casino or gambling platform they are playing on as he mentioned that it is a mid to high rated gambling platform. It also looks like that the OP only encountered an issue after hitting a huge win which probably means that he was already playing and was able to withdraw with normal winnings.

Best first suggestion would be is to contact support to know more about the incident and if they did not provide any response, that's where you should follow through on other means of communication such as the forum.

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October 23, 2022, 04:11:31 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
Gambling sites that have a good reputation and have high ratings will not refuse payments to their users when they experience big wins unless there are certain violations.  usually gambling sites are more concerned with their reputation than acting unfairly on one user which can result in bringing him down, especially if the gambling site is very familiar in this forum
if that happens you only need to attach strong evidence and mention the related gambling site and discuss it here to get the best solution from the manager so that his reputation is maintained
Best solution from the manager? No, I don't think they can do anything. They are only being paid to manage a campaign. Problems inside the gambling site is already out of their business but if it's only a minor issue like an error in the webpage then some managers can help. I've seen a few before though.

Anyway, the op wants to do a legal action and I think that means lawyers and the court are now involved. Posting the complaint here inside the forum is only a normal complaint and not a legal one but like you said, the complainant needs to prepare a strong evidence and he must tell the truth because if he is lying the court will know it and he can't win his case.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

Ask yourself first if you did something that is against their TOS. Now, if you think you haven't violate any of their rule, you played clean and didn't abuse some kind of bonus then you can ask their customer support why they won't release your winnings. A reputable gambling website will always state the precise reason why they disabled the withdrawal on your account and won't make unreasonable excuses.
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To me first I must checked on their compliance to know if I m able to make withdrawal or not, then will also check their withdrawal limits to know how much I could withdraw per day and weeks or even months then followed by kyc if all this are put in places are you still don't allowed to withdraw, I will contact their customer support via live chat, also in the forum to know if their customer representative will get a feedback to me. If all these are done and yet nothing has been taken places I have no option to declare them scammer on the accusations sections.
That's what you should do before playing gambling so you won't break the rules they wrote. Meanwhile, if you've got a big win and just checked their rules, I guess you made a mistake because you didn't check it beforehand before you signed up. The thing that casinos usually ask of you before allowing or continuing the withdrawal process is to ask you to do KYC and only then will they continue the process. And indeed, you can ask customer support via live chat to find out how to solve your case. And you can also create a thread on their ANN to ask about your case so that they can help to resolve it.
Based from how the OP asked the question, it looks like he knew the casino or gambling platform they are playing on as he mentioned that it is a mid to high rated gambling platform. It also looks like that the OP only encountered an issue after hitting a huge win which probably means that he was already playing and was able to withdraw with normal winnings.

Best first suggestion would be is to contact support to know more about the incident and if they did not provide any response, that's where you should follow through on other means of communication such as the forum.
Actually this is really just a common sense thing on what you would really be doing once you do experience these lock up funds or pending up for those huge wins.Of course you would really be understandable

that you should stick with the current popular sites or platforms which would really make yourself that confident that you wont be experiencing these things.Usually new or non so popular sites do really have

this common problem.This is where they do eventually die or wither away and those who give out best service and offerings on the market will really be the ones who would really sustain.
Its true that this forum itself would really be the best place once you do have some complaints into some crypto related sites.

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October 23, 2022, 07:24:00 PM
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You can try to reach out to the authorities that issue their license, if they are licensed... but that seldom work. The method used most are social media and forums like bitcointalk.org ...under this section ==> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 (Scam Accusations) ...but make sure to provide a lot of proof... or you will be ripped to pieces.

Most of the casino review sites are supposedly ran or funded by casinos... so it does not help to give them a bad review. So I guess ..... communication with the casino are the last resort.  Roll Eyes

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
If the win is really big then you will need to try to backup every single piece of evidence the casino may try to delete, this way you will still have evidence that you are on the right, this should include your bet history, communications with their customer service and the TOS at the time all of this happened, then the next step is to try to get legal representation and sue them, and finally you must try to post your case in as many platforms as possible so they rectify their decision thanks to all the bad press they will receive.

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You can try to reach out to the authorities that issue their license, if they are licensed... but that seldom work. The method used most are social media and forums like bitcointalk.org ...under this section ==> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 (Scam Accusations) ...but make sure to provide a lot of proof... or you will be ripped to pieces.
You don't need to only reach out the authorities of the country that issued their license, you can also report the case to the authorities of your country and to authorities of some other (big) countries. The authorities can block the url of the casino in their own country if they think it can scam their citizens. You maybe won't get back your money through this way but it will cost way more money to the casino that scammed you and you will help to protect other gamblers in addition. You can also report your case to their sponsored partners to let them know they are advertising a scam.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

We can file a complaint to the authority if the casino we are playing with refuses to pay for our Big win.  Of course, we need to have sufficient evidence of the winnings in order for us to gain the favor of the authority.  So I think the best way to get the winnings is to have the judiciary system involved.

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October 23, 2022, 09:52:59 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

We can file a complaint to the authority if the casino we are playing with refuses to pay for our Big win.  Of course, we need to have sufficient evidence of the winnings in order for us to gain the favor of the authority.  So I think the best way to get the winnings is to have the judiciary system involved.
Because it is the authorities who can do that with very strong evidence of your big win, including this will be investigated further if it is true that the casino has lied to customers because they do not want to pay for their biggest winnings.
I myself do not know how this process will occur if the online casino we suspect while the head office does not know unless the government disables the site if there is a problem.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

If this were to happen to me, I would definitely submit a ticket explaining on why they do not want to pay my winnings.

Assuming that their reply is insufficient, if they have an account and thread in this forum, I would also report it and post a scam accusation against them. This would inform majority of the people to avoid and to prevent gambling from this website. If they are a popular online gambling website, chances are that the reputation that they built would crumble in an instant the moment they screw up with at least one (1) guaranteed transaction.

As for legal means, I doubt that I would be able to do something about it given that online gambling is not properly regulated by the government. Any winnings/losings in a game of chance, under the law, would be against us.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

big gambling sites, will always pay winnings if you are worthy in all their gambling requirements, but as evidence you can prepare what is needed to be evidence later when the platform audits your data,
But what if the site ask for KYC when you surely not violated any rules? this is the problem most of the time here in crypto gambling though very little to happen in Long time gambling sites, but always remember that gambling will always risky either in betting or in gambling site that we chooses to enter and play.
so best to understand the situation and only deal in trusted site we have here in forum.


into consideration for KYC in my opinion if the amount is large and can definitely make withdrawals I'm sure I will KYC and follow the rules they propose, but on the contrary if the amount is small I will definitely leave it and will not return to the site again, this is a lesson and my story myself and the people who asked me for advice about this site

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Only course of action for me is to let other people know that this platform doesn't pay up. Trying to do things involving legal action should only be a last resort and shouldn't be something that you should think of initially because this may even push the platform into not paying up. They will be scared and will even give you a harder time, so just let other people know of what's happening and that's enough since it threatens their business once people found out about it.

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October 24, 2022, 01:40:32 AM
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Only course of action for me is to let other people know that this platform doesn't pay up. Trying to do things involving legal action should only be a last resort and shouldn't be something that you should think of initially because this may even push the platform into not paying up. They will be scared and will even give you a harder time, so just let other people know of what's happening and that's enough since it threatens their business once people found out about it.

First and foremost, make sure you haven't violated any of the items in their ToS.
Because if you go public, they will scrutinize your account and may possibly look for your violations.
So before anything else, check your account and assure that you are not violating any of their terms.
And then, if they are not answering your complaints via their technical support, that's when you go public.
Attach all possible proofs that you think will help you in this battle. Because users here can only do so much with your complaint.
If they see you have strong proofs, they can back you up and assist what is owed to you.
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October 24, 2022, 02:47:21 AM
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First of all, if the site it is played on is legit, what you should do is to calm down and contact them either internally via chat or ticket or via their representatives on this forum. More like both. Sometimes misunderstandings occur as sites try to avoid fraud. Also see if you read their ToS and reread them to make sure you haven't broken any rules. If so, and the site is legit you shouldn't worry.

If time passes and they haven't responded and haven't refunded your money, I would consider opening a scam accusation on the forum, on the appropriate board. And go to court as a last resort, as a colleague told you.

But if you have played on trusted sites that are advertised on this forum and have done nothing wrong, you are not going to go to that extreme.

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Only course of action for me is to let other people know that this platform doesn't pay up. Trying to do things involving legal action should only be a last resort and shouldn't be something that you should think of initially because this may even push the platform into not paying up. They will be scared and will even give you a harder time, so just let other people know of what's happening and that's enough since it threatens their business once people found out about it.

First and foremost, make sure you haven't violated any of the items in their ToS.
Because if you go public, they will scrutinize your account and may possibly look for your violations.
So before anything else, check your account and assure that you are not violating any of their terms.
And then, if they are not answering your complaints via their technical support, that's when you go public.
Attach all possible proofs that you think will help you in this battle. Because users here can only do so much with your complaint.
If they see you have strong proofs, they can back you up and assist what is owed to you.
But often players who cheat so get issues in withdrawal will not admit that they are cheating often cheating is done they consider as their smart way to find a gambling system loophole for sure the casino will not accept that.
I will continue to contact live support and open a support ticket on the gambling website until getting an answer if this step does not produce then this forum is a place that I will use to get their attention especially if the gambling website already has an announcement thread, if the step still does not work i think it's better to move on and use another gambling website to play, it's hard to accept it but continuing to pursue it's just going to be exhausting.

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October 24, 2022, 06:14:29 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

If this were to happen to me, I would definitely submit a ticket explaining on why they do not want to pay my winnings.

Assuming that their reply is insufficient, if they have an account and thread in this forum, I would also report it and post a scam accusation against them. This would inform majority of the people to avoid and to prevent gambling from this website. If they are a popular online gambling website, chances are that the reputation that they built would crumble in an instant the moment they screw up with at least one (1) guaranteed transaction.

As for legal means, I doubt that I would be able to do something about it given that online gambling is not properly regulated by the government. Any winnings/losings in a game of chance, under the law, would be against us.

  -  I have read a scenario like this in this forum where there was a gambler who made a topic here because he said that his account was suddenly locked when the gambling platform saw that he had an amount balance of 7800$, the worse thing is that he informed the support team of the casino but there was no response from him.

Then the worst thing is that there is no thread forum ann thread on the platform here. So the chances to recover his balance are unlikely to be recovered. Come to think of it, this is very disturbing.

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October 24, 2022, 06:43:26 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

Gather all the pieces of evidence, screenshots of all your pieces of evidence, and post the complaint here and on all the other platforms, if they have an announcement here with an active representative, the community can pressure the representative to address the issue.
A high-rated casino cannot ignore your accusation as long as your complaint is legit and you have not cheated because it will ruin their reputation, gamblers will stop playing here and new players will stop coming in, gamblers have Bitcointalk to thank they have a good venue to post their accusations.
Mostly high rated casinos guarantee the players that this type of complaint will never be possible in their site. But if ever circumstances occur, maybe the best thing to do is to post complain first in their own site and once they ignore it, that’s the time to post it in this forum because for sure, a lot of old and new gamblers will be aware on it and get discourage to play on their site. The result will be very alarming for them that will instantly decrease their profits, so they will surely find immediate solution to your complain.

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To me first I must checked on their compliance to know if I m able to make withdrawal or not, then will also check their withdrawal limits to know how much I could withdraw per day and weeks or even months then followed by kyc if all this are put in places are you still don't allowed to withdraw, I will contact their customer support via live chat, also in the forum to know if their customer representative will get a feedback to me. If all these are done and yet nothing has been taken places I have no option to declare them scammer on the accusations sections.
That's what you should do before playing gambling so you won't break the rules they wrote. Meanwhile, if you've got a big win and just checked their rules, I guess you made a mistake because you didn't check it beforehand before you signed up. The thing that casinos usually ask of you before allowing or continuing the withdrawal process is to ask you to do KYC and only then will they continue the process. And indeed, you can ask customer support via live chat to find out how to solve your case. And you can also create a thread on their ANN to ask about your case so that they can help to resolve it.
Based from how the OP asked the question, it looks like he knew the casino or gambling platform they are playing on as he mentioned that it is a mid to high rated gambling platform. It also looks like that the OP only encountered an issue after hitting a huge win which probably means that he was already playing and was able to withdraw with normal winnings.

Best first suggestion would be is to contact support to know more about the incident and if they did not provide any response, that's where you should follow through on other means of communication such as the forum.
I think so too. If he is having problems, as you mentioned, I think the problem could be around doing KYC because if someone is gambling and gets big wins, usually the casino immediately asks him to do KYC. And this is what the person doesn't want so he tries to find a solution. And yes, contacting customer service is a way that people are used to when they have a problem and I'm sure if the casino has a good reputation, their agent will help to solve the problem. Let's just hope that @OP's problem gets resolved well and if he does get a big win, hopefully, he can withdraw it without any problems.

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October 24, 2022, 07:33:56 AM
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Only course of action for me is to let other people know that this platform doesn't pay up. Trying to do things involving legal action should only be a last resort and shouldn't be something that you should think of initially because this may even push the platform into not paying up. They will be scared and will even give you a harder time, so just let other people know of what's happening and that's enough since it threatens their business once people found out about it.
Perhaps, we can do that so that other people can be careful when they play on that casino site and not try to win the games there. This will help them avoid that casino and choose another casino that does not have such problems.

And maybe this can be a clue for the casino so they can introspect on what they have done to their previous members. If we decide to take legal action or take it to the legal department, I don't think it will be easy, and it will cost money to get it done. The casino will try to thwart our efforts, and if we don't have much money, we can lose against the casino.
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

First of all you should avoid playing in such casinos and that too with big amount of money. If this happened to you, then it’s prove that you don’t care about your hard earned money. If the casino that has ditched you has a license, then contact to the license provider first. Simultaneously you can contact the owners and request if you won that amount legitimately. Moreover there are also many sites like AskGamblers where you can register a complaint against them, though this won’t help many times. At last leave a review at multiple review sites so that no another person can be scammed from that casino.

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Only course of action for me is to let other people know that this platform doesn't pay up. Trying to do things involving legal action should only be a last resort and shouldn't be something that you should think of initially because this may even push the platform into not paying up.

They are not from Mars, aren't they? If they are doing something illegally and are likely to be facing legal prosecution, not paying up just because they want to "punish" you for reporting them is  hardly an option. This way they would only make things worse for them.

They will be scared and will even give you a harder time, so just let other people know of what's happening and that's enough since it threatens their business once people found out about it.

You should never be afraid of that. It's a possible scenario, but most likely they will be the losers in the end.

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October 24, 2022, 08:48:48 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

First? What is the reason why they refuse to pay you out since you mentioned that a Mid High rated gambling website that surely wanted to maintain their reputation.

Second? are you sure that you did not violate anything ?

third? ask their support first , why need to ask for legal way right away when you can talk to them first?

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

First? What is the reason why they refuse to pay you out since you mentioned that a Mid High rated gambling website that surely wanted to maintain their reputation.

Second? are you sure that you did not violate anything ?

third? ask their support first , why need to ask for legal way right away when you can talk to them first?

Some of the gambling casinos just allowed this but it depends if you are just a newly created account and abuses the current system of the game like the bonuses there's a chance they might hold your account and ask for your KYC to prevent the feature abusers of the system, if they are refuse to up those issues like letting you a withdrawal I guess it you can file a case with that but first it is better to ask their create first to or if the gambling casino is right here ask the representative.

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October 24, 2022, 01:55:17 PM
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In my country there is no legally supported solution, this is a major external problem. Although many people take legal steps out there for example by reporting to the relevant international authorities or hiring a lawyer, as a low-end gambler I personally am not confident about it because of the cost issue.
Maybe I can't find a solution other than to spread my complaint wherever the casino is offering the product, or just wait for an unthinkable solution until I run into the OP's scenario.

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What's the behind reason they refuse to pay the winning? if it's a reputable casino they will let you know the reason and they wouldn't just block your account. If their reason are true and you're broke their rules, there's nothing you can do since it's your fault, why you're mad and complaining then?

If you're right and you deserved to get the prize but the casino doesn't let you to withdraw it, you can report it to your local court or legal gambling advisor.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

If you can afford medium to high stakes you'd really have to weigh up a whole range of factors. These might include the jurisdiction that the casino is licensed in, what sort of evidence you would be able to supply in your claim, the sum you stand to gain versus the legal costs that you might potentially lose, if the terms could possibly cover them against having to pay out in the circumstances surrounding your particular bet and much more. Some super rich people might fight such a claim on "principal" but the casino would possibly pay them off anyway in the belief that they'd pay it all back in the long run anyway. There is no real black and white answer to this.

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October 24, 2022, 09:13:51 PM
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What's the behind reason they refuse to pay the winning? if it's a reputable casino they will let you know the reason and they wouldn't just block your account. If their reason are true and you're broke their rules, there's nothing you can do since it's your fault, why you're mad and complaining then?

If you're right and you deserved to get the prize but the casino doesn't let you to withdraw it, you can report it to your local court or legal gambling advisor.
This is subjective.
We do know that casinos wont really be easily locking up funds without any reason unless if they are tending to scam in the first place but if not
then it would really be just dumb that they would be messing up their reputation on locking up without any reason.
I have said its subjective because they will be blocking or locking those cheaters on a gambling site or any platform which is  casual.
If you have done nothing then you would really be that confident on raising up some accusations if you arent that being paid or something similar.

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October 24, 2022, 11:04:36 PM
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Only course of action for me is to let other people know that this platform doesn't pay up. Trying to do things involving legal action should only be a last resort and shouldn't be something that you should think of initially because this may even push the platform into not paying up. They will be scared and will even give you a harder time, so just let other people know of what's happening and that's enough since it threatens their business once people found out about it.

I agree the best revenge is always to expose these scammers, they will lose potential players and those who continue to play will have a second continue playing, you will only go to court if the amount is very substantial that is enough to cover attorney's fees and besides its a long process if your location is different the casino's location, casino have their reputation to protect with so many casinos competing for the slice of the market they will live and die with their reputation.

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In the mentioned thread, A disheartening true life winning story a real life incident on a what is being asked by OP have taken place. The user have lodged a complaint on the local police station. Further he have reached the Gambling Board and at last he have raised it to the judiciary. We don't know how things gonna happen, but OP should be given the right judgement.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
personally i will take legal action for this site  if any way take didnt work. But it depend on country policy about gambling ,if its legalized i am believe we will win in court if could give strong proof about therir violation. At this time we are protected by laws and its many time succeed to fight againts unfair thing. Creating accusation in this forum will spread and prevent others to feel same with us.


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October 25, 2022, 01:22:21 AM
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First of all whenever we are entering in a website. We should go through the terms and conditions of this website. And if this is a gambling website so we should also read the terms and conditions and the paying strategy.

If they are saying that they will pay of all your winnings. And they refuse to pay. So I will file a case in court and give them all proofs and ask for justice. This is the way which I will pick.

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October 25, 2022, 04:21:55 AM
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If they are reputable, they most likely won't forfeit your winnings, since their license and reputation is more important. Here's what I would do
1) I will keep playing and keep withdrawing every other day. Keep withdrawal amount manageable
2) Be more active in their group chat and their customer service to show that you are legit customer
3) Be sure to not do "funny business", i.e. play loopholes in system or have multiple accounts

Just give them time to process your withdrawal. After all they are reputable and you are legit player.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
Any site that can be big or small, have a complaint which is mentioned by OP. However, in mid-level casinos such complaints are not taken seriously, but in reputable casinos they are taken with the great mater of concern. The complaint must also have sufficient reliable evidence and can be complained primarily in the gambling section of the forum, especially in the ANN thread. Then of course after getting the response from there further steps can be taken.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

big gambling sites, will always pay winnings if you are worthy in all their gambling requirements, but as evidence you can prepare what is needed to be evidence later when the platform audits your data,
But what if the site ask for KYC when you surely not violated any rules? this is the problem most of the time here in crypto gambling though very little to happen in Long time gambling sites, but always remember that gambling will always risky either in betting or in gambling site that we chooses to enter and play.
so best to understand the situation and only deal in trusted site we have here in forum.


into consideration for KYC in my opinion if the amount is large and can definitely make withdrawals I'm sure I will KYC and follow the rules they propose, but on the contrary if the amount is small I will definitely leave it and will not return to the site again, this is a lesson and my story myself and the people who asked me for advice about this site
but sometimes it leaves you no choice but to comply mate, example that  even with small amount but you badly needed that funds? then there is nothing you can do but to send your KYC for the chance  of getting your funds out.

this is the scenario that we must learn and understand.

KYC is a must in our days now lol.

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October 25, 2022, 12:20:37 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
personally i will take legal action for this site  if any way take didnt work. But it depend on country policy about gambling ,if its legalized i am believe we will win in court if could give strong proof about therir violation. At this time we are protected by laws and its many time succeed to fight againts unfair thing. Creating accusation in this forum will spread and prevent others to feel same with us.

I would choose to make a thread on reputation here in the forum, because that is something that cannot be missed, this is as long as I have a thread and have all the tests, the screenshots, the emails, everything that has to do with being able to have the evidence and thus give the truth to the judges or the DT that have a lot of weight here in the forum, when we face a casino and the casino wants to take advantage of a player, the possibilities for a player to come out badly is very high , you have to have a lot of evidence that the player has had nothing to do with it, that he is a victim, also for all the scam attempts.

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October 27, 2022, 07:46:56 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

big gambling sites, will always pay winnings if you are worthy in all their gambling requirements, but as evidence you can prepare what is needed to be evidence later when the platform audits your data,
But what if the site ask for KYC when you surely not violated any rules? this is the problem most of the time here in crypto gambling though very little to happen in Long time gambling sites, but always remember that gambling will always risky either in betting or in gambling site that we chooses to enter and play.
so best to understand the situation and only deal in trusted site we have here in forum.


into consideration for KYC in my opinion if the amount is large and can definitely make withdrawals I'm sure I will KYC and follow the rules they propose, but on the contrary if the amount is small I will definitely leave it and will not return to the site again, this is a lesson and my story myself and the people who asked me for advice about this site


it is indeed that if the amount is Big ( as what mostly happens now even if there are no KYC requirements from the beginning) then lets assume to pass KYC  but the problem is that what if the amount is not that big but still the site ask you for KYC? then this is for me a fishy way of that said gambling business.

actually it is not good to mention but scam sites mostly do this , like those one that is popular for being scammer now with the same case if holding or taking players bet/win (though this is different from KYC requriements)
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

The best thing you can do to yourself is to select a casino that it is not known for not paying out their users.
this is listed in gambling section and also can check in Scam section and reputation to clear if they are legit or have issues.

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October 27, 2022, 09:20:04 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

The best thing you can do to yourself is to select a casino that it is not known for not paying out their users.
this is listed in gambling section and also can check in Scam section and reputation to clear if they are legit or have issues.

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Hopefully, we have bitcointalk and other forums that you can see reviews about casinos and other platforms and to be alerted where you invest your money.
this is not a Hope, because we already had Bitcointalk and forum members that knowledgeable how to verify scam sites.

Interesting how people kind of still trust banks  Grin Even after 2008 where all the loses were distributed among poor and rich alike whereas the directives of the banks that had been rescued were still getting bonus bigger than what most people would ever earn in their lives.

Yes Bitcointalk is a good reference point, if a site is scammy it will likely be detected. The contrary is also true, a trusted site advertised here is less likely to run a scam.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
You cant directly make out some legal action yet you would really be still considering if the said amount of winnings is something considerable for you to fight off or not.When we do deal up with mid-high rated gambling

sites or platforms then it would really be that not that good to make out conclusions that they turn out to be a scam because there is always a reason on why they do really have those kind of withdrawl hold up or locked.
Yes, its really that frustrating when you cant really able to make yourself withdraw on what you had won.That do really make out some bad impressions which
you would be ending up on finding another place which you could hang on finding the better spot.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

I've read of cases of casinos refusing to pay up winnings to winners  and there is a similar topic of a winner who was deprived of his winnings, with the claims that the data record of his winnings was wiped off their system,
A game that was played with about $690 with a winning of aout $169,000. This was so disheartening to me but the man was fortunate enough as be reported to a police station and the gambling board and he was offered about $23,000 and $29,000 respectively but he turned them down and demanded for a full payment as he further took the case to a court ad I hope he wins.

This is the link to the topic And below is the link to the original story

So I think if one encounters such cases and there is a prove to the winning then I think firstly, one should report to the nearest police station before any other actions

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October 30, 2022, 08:51:16 PM
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First of all whenever we are entering in a website. We should go through the terms and conditions of this website. And if this is a gambling website so we should also read the terms and conditions and the paying strategy.

If they are saying that they will pay of all your winnings. And they refuse to pay. So I will file a case in court and give them all proofs and ask for justice. This is the way which I will pick.
Without a doubt going through the legal route is necessary if the win is big, but at the same time casinos have so much money and resources that it is difficult to win a case like that by just pressuring them through the law, if the casino still worries somewhat about their reputation then you need to post your case everywhere so the case begins to affect them economically, in fact I really think that in many cases following this route should be way more effective than going through the legal route.

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Getting their attention is one way like as been suggested, posting a thread here that they don't want you to pay with your winnings. But make sure that you've got it legitimate and accurate winning without any problem. And when it's not enough and they don't want to settle it, you can push it to higher courts but before doing that, make sure that you're prepared for the expenses because it's not something that they'll just go in favor of you and it's costly.

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October 30, 2022, 10:36:23 PM
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I would probably take video record for such situations which i believe this casino makes problem for me with that amount winning. This video record would include deposit, winning game record and withdraw request.
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October 30, 2022, 11:22:34 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

We don't know in the end if they will still pay the money but on my part, I will tell right away the community on what happened.

Since I'm just a player, it will be easy for these gambling sites to say that I violated something and they can easily attach any proof even on my part, I didn't do something wrong. Since they high-rated gambling site, most people will believed them now and my case will now be ignored.

Unfortunate for a player to experienced such cases.
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

First, ask them nicely what happened and what are those problems my account went through why do I end up being not paid? Since they are highly reputable, I expect them to have a clear response and tell me everything.

If I found the explanation quite difficult to imagine and I'm sure to myself that I won that big amount thru fair play, that's the time I will prepare all the necessary proofs to post here in the forum and see what others will have to say.

Since there is no legal way to pursue them, the effort to pressure the site is the last resort I can do.

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October 30, 2022, 11:56:54 PM
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Filing a lawsuit must remain the last resort if nothing else works since it's  the most expensive and longest option. Besides, in most cases it won't help you get your money back especially if the casino which scammed you doesn't have a license.
You should start by exposing them on all gambling-related platforms and everywhere where they advertise their service. Making too much noise will put too much pression on them and force them to pay you. Even if it doesn't solve your problem, it will at least serve as a warning for other gamblers.

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It's a good decision to read the terms and conditions of any gambling company you want to deal with, but be sure you also clearly understand them. However, many don't know their rights, and the few who know it do not have the money to file a court case. It is easy to say 'I will chart them to court,' but do you have the needed resources?

Many often let go, this is especially when the amount won is not even significant enough to hire a lawyer.

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~You should start by exposing them on all gambling-related platforms and everywhere where they advertise their service. Making too much noise will put too much pression on them and force them to pay you. Even if it doesn't solve your problem, it will at least serve as a warning for other gamblers.

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October 31, 2022, 09:38:34 AM
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It's a good decision to read the terms and conditions of any gambling company you want to deal with, but be sure you also clearly understand them. However, many don't know their rights, and the few who know it do not have the money to file a court case. It is easy to say 'I will chart them to court,' but do you have the needed resources?

Many often let go, this is especially when the amount won is not even significant enough to hire a lawyer.
That's the real problem. We want to take the case to court but think it will cost a lot of money. Then after we calculated how much it would cost, we decided not to take it to court. We've lost in this case and choose just to let it go and can't do anything about it. The only thing we can do is look for other gambling sites that won't cheat us anymore and I think we can find them easily on this forum so that we don't have the same incident again.

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October 31, 2022, 11:17:27 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

In this case, I think it depends on the problem related to why the platform refuses the payment that should be yours. of course every case will be different, if we do not commit irregularities or fraud. I'm sure that won't happen. because after all a reputable gambling platform, especially one with a high reputation, will not cheat by not paying for something that has been earned by the player.

After all, if it happened to you, you can make a review on this forum with the evidence you present as a reinforcement for the claim you are complaining about. So, if you don't want to experience a case like you said.
You should first research the casino that will be used. here, we have a crypto casino that has a high reputation. You just need to find the one that you think is worthy of being your favorite casino.

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October 31, 2022, 11:20:46 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?


Post complaints here in the forum or other website that offer complaints system like Askgambler to make the casino alarmed on what they are doing. Most of the time mid tier casino doesn’t pay but high rated casino always pay when the issue became public while the evidence is strong that the player has the claim to the huge profit. Many high rated casino including slot providers has this story and most of them is resolved.

Afaik only 1xbit is the only casino that I know that has a lot of active issue that still operating here despite all the evidence is strong against them. This is the only casino that has exemption to rule. I dunno why this casino still operates while they have a lot of active complaints that still unresolved.  Huh

I don't follow actively their case, but some time ago when I researched a bit on them, they were accepting that the previous management did things wrong but the new team would try to solve the problems. I still read complaints from time to time and, although I'm not sure whether they are old or new, their frequency makes me think the latter.

On the other hand, about the reasons for not paying, many members here argue that they do selective scamming, but it could be just that their T&C are very strict and people don't read them, so they complaint when they can't withdraw because of using VPN, connecting from a forbidden country, or whatever other rule they broke. I can be wrong, but in my head I can't explain another reason for this platform to continue on the rise if they are supposedly so bad. I guess that this doubt is the clue of their survival and success.

Back on topic, I would try to do my best in order to destroy the reputation of a casino if they refused to pay me for no legal reason, mainly in this forum, but in other social media too. If the money lost was big, I would hire a good lawyer too, and I would take them to court.

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October 31, 2022, 03:02:18 PM
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It's a good decision to read the terms and conditions of any gambling company you want to deal with, but be sure you also clearly understand them.

It is indeed best to read the terms and conditions of any casino we wanted to play with.  If any of the Terms clauses is somehow vague to us, we can always ask their support staff to explain in layman's terms the one we don't understand.  It is our right to inquire and know the specifics of the terms and conditions.  It is better that way because if ever there is some dispute and we may use the conversation to back up our claim.


However, many don't know their rights, and the few who know it do not have the money to file a court case. It is easy to say 'I will chart them to court,' but do you have the needed resources?

Those who are willing to take the case to court are those who won a huge amount.  Or those who have huge amounts being frozen by the casino.  So I think they have enough funds to pursue a lawsuit.

Many often let go, this is especially when the amount won is not even significant enough to hire a lawyer.

It is better to let go than spend way more money to prove our claim.  That is a smarter move I think.

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October 31, 2022, 04:08:39 PM
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Telling the truth about what happened to you is very important, and you should definitely do it, even though it might seem pointless, especially after many unsuccessful attempts to communicate with the customers support of the scammers.

I would recommend this place, bitcointalk, as a platform where your message will be heard and discussed, unlike many places where no one will actually see it.
If you know that you didn't comply with the casino's terms or you don't have a solid case with enough proofs then better remain silent otherwise it will backfire on you.
We witnessed many cases where gamblers accuse casinos of scamming but we quickly realize that the customer is in fact the real scammer or a abuser.
The good thing about this forum is that most of its members are unbiased and most of the times they will take the side of the customer and do their best to help him.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
For the first time you will first report to them and if they fail to contact or respond to you then you will carry a negative information about them you can go to accusation and file a petition against them, so that is the best way you can come against them and also report to other people so that people will be aware of what happened or what you passed through and nobody will be pressing them again since they are for scamming

this situation would be good if they have active thread on this forum. for most crypto gamblers, it is best to play on a reputable site with active support. but the first thing to do of course is to contact the support of the site itself. most casinos have online chat support. if they are not responding, then, try their other social media channels or contacts
if nothing happened, you can always create a scam accusations thread and post your proofs. many will help you if you have valid complaint.

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November 01, 2022, 04:56:16 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

I don't seem to have seen anyone who complained here on cryptocurrency gambling platforms have their issue resolved. Most of the time I read in the complaints that they were not given the justice they wanted for what was done to them.

Apart from that, there are other complainants who, despite the proofs they hold, have not been resolved and continue to ignore their grievances, which seem to be unwilling to allow them to withdraw a large amount, so they just went through blocking their account even though they know they have provided everything the gambling site needs in cryptocurrency.


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November 01, 2022, 05:22:25 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

I don't seem to have seen anyone who complained here on cryptocurrency gambling platforms have their issue resolved. Most of the time I read in the complaints that they were not given the justice they wanted for what was done to them.
It is about those typical scam sites or those who had bad reputations that Justice does not served, but complaints about legit casino seems to be answered and some had only took short time before the cases resolved .

But of course better to choose which site you are going to play

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Apart from that, there are other complainants who, despite the proofs they hold, have not been resolved and continue to ignore their grievances, which seem to be unwilling to allow them to withdraw a large amount, so they just went through blocking their account even though they know they have provided everything the gambling site needs in cryptocurrency.
We can mentioned some gambling site name like 1xbit that had hundreds or more of complaints that still unresolved .

better stay away from that kind of site though .

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I don't seem to have seen anyone who complained here on cryptocurrency gambling platforms have their issue resolved. Most of the time I read in the complaints that they were not given the justice they wanted for what was done to them.
I guess you didn't check thoroughly then since many gambler complaints related to crypto gambling platforms were resolved after a certain amount of time in this forum.

Most of those resolved complaints were 100% legit and pertained to popular crypto gambling sites. The ones that don't get resolved are usually linked to scamming gamblers or scamming sites(1xbit).

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November 01, 2022, 05:56:10 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
For the first time you will first report to them and if they fail to contact or respond to you then you will carry a negative information about them you can go to accusation and file a petition against them, so that is the best way you can come against them and also report to other people so that people will be aware of what happened or what you passed through and nobody will be pressing them again since they are for scamming

this situation would be good if they have active thread on this forum. for most crypto gamblers, it is best to play on a reputable site with active support. but the first thing to do of course is to contact the support of the site itself. most casinos have online chat support. if they are not responding, then, try their other social media channels or contacts
if nothing happened, you can always create a scam accusations thread and post your proofs. many will help you if you have valid complaint.
Actually it is not the only forum that advertise gambling in crypto , there are more sites outside Bitcointalk that also has similar advertising but indeed that our forum is the most and the popular one .

this is why some of the victims from outside create accounts here to chase the site that victimized them .

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Actually it is not the only forum that advertise gambling in crypto , there are more sites outside Bitcointalk that also has similar advertising but indeed that our forum is the most and the popular one .

this is why some of the victims from outside create accounts here to chase the site that victimized them .
It is interesting those very same people did not took the time to at first create an account in this forum and take a look at the reputation of different casinos here, if they did that the number of scams will go down and the scenario the OP is presenting will not happen at all.

After all many of the casinos which they claim scammed them are casinos that had a bad reputation in this forum already, and which we know they are not to be trusted.

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Make a report in your local court or report to casinoguru, askgamblers or gamblingcommission.gov.uk. Although personally I never make a report about scam casino, but AFAIK those sites which I mentioned before are trusted and most gamblers usually make complain on there. As long as you've record the whole proof to accuse the casino, you're never break any terms of service, you wouldn't lose.

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Filing a lawsuit must remain the last resort if nothing else works since it's  the most expensive and longest option. Besides, in most cases it won't help you get your money back especially if the casino which scammed you doesn't have a license.
You should start by exposing them on all gambling-related platforms and everywhere where they advertise their service. Making too much noise will put too much pression on them and force them to pay you. Even if it doesn't solve your problem, it will at least serve as a warning for other gamblers.
He said he played on mid to high rated casino so I believe that casinos like that do have their own licenses but it's still not guaranteed that he can win because he may not have a strong evidence to prove that it was really the casino's fault and not him.

Casino themself can also hire a good lawyer and that can defend them even if they are lying. Doing this solution was pretty risky but if the gambler had a lot money and all what they want is justice then why not? This is also going to be a big help for others in case the casino is guilty for scamming their players. Casinos like that must be close down so that no innocent player can get victimized in the future.

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Make a report in your local court or report to casinoguru, askgamblers or gamblingcommission.gov.uk. Although personally I never make a report about scam casino, but AFAIK those sites which I mentioned before are trusted and most gamblers usually make complain on there. As long as you've record the whole proof to accuse the casino, you're never break any terms of service, you wouldn't lose.
This is also highly recommended but if there are gambling sites that don't pay and they actively advertise on this forum, you can also report on this forum, but it would be nice before playing on a gambling site, make sure the gambling site actually pays because whatever it is, it's better to prevent it before something happens. unwanted as intended in this thread

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November 01, 2022, 09:41:52 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
For the first time you will first report to them and if they fail to contact or respond to you then you will carry a negative information about them you can go to accusation and file a petition against them, so that is the best way you can come against them and also report to other people so that people will be aware of what happened or what you passed through and nobody will be pressing them again since they are for scamming

this situation would be good if they have active thread on this forum. for most crypto gamblers, it is best to play on a reputable site with active support. but the first thing to do of course is to contact the support of the site itself. most casinos have online chat support. if they are not responding, then, try their other social media channels or contacts
if nothing happened, you can always create a scam accusations thread and post your proofs. many will help you if you have valid complaint.
We have to see if this is also something that can help solve, because there are some cases that are discussed and accused in the thread and this apparently does not matter much to some casinos, because they only care that they continue to enter their casino and keep scamming people, when threads are made in Reputation and negaticve reviews are left to the site, it is not a way for them to return the money, but they will leave with all the money, they will not achieve anything, but they will also be able to realize that the money will never be recovered, I don't know if suing it before the authorities will have any effect? but as if it is all online?


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He said he played on mid to high rated casino so I believe that casinos like that do have their own licenses but it's still not guaranteed that he can win because he may not have a strong evidence to prove that it was really the casino's fault and not him.

Casino themself can also hire a good lawyer and that can defend them even if they are lying. Doing this solution was pretty risky but if the gambler had a lot money and all what they want is justice then why not? This is also going to be a big help for others in case the casino is guilty for scamming their players. Casinos like that must be close down so that no innocent player can get victimized in the future.
OP didn't actually play on a highly trusted casino and got scammed. He is just asking an hypothetical question.
These days even new casinos with zero reputation have a license. But we all know that most of those licenses are useless especially if it's one that you get from Curaçao or Malta. If you report a casino to one of those licensors they will simply ignore you and do nothing.
But you are right. Scam casinos have the resources which allow them to get away with their wrong deeds and they are protected by their ToS which doesn't give any right to the customer.

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November 01, 2022, 11:43:43 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
For the first time you will first report to them and if they fail to contact or respond to you then you will carry a negative information about them you can go to accusation and file a petition against them, so that is the best way you can come against them and also report to other people so that people will be aware of what happened or what you passed through and nobody will be pressing them again since they are for scamming
This is not the first time these kind of events had been happening and people especially gamblers keep complaining from one scam casino to the other. Many of the scam casinos that are available in the gambling market are always making there customers regret of ever using them. The market is now very competitive and every casinos are using different means to attract gamblers to keep using their platform. When gamblers finally had a bigger winnings, their account will be block so that they will not be able to withdraw their funds because they don't want to make any loses.

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November 02, 2022, 04:48:14 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
That's really not a good sign for a site even if they are a high rated site because there's no way you won't be able to be paid without a valid reason from their side. First thing first is to have it recorded or take some screenshots regarding the matter and look for ways to put this issue in a legal way.

Yes, in fact it is a good way to do it, I don't know if it is also about asking as much as possible to find out why this is, if we see a casino that has a good reputation, there should be no problem, if they If they detect something, they should let you know what happened, and what is the reason why they have withheld those funds, maybe they do it so that you can make a KYC requirement, that way they would be very good and it would provide more security for the casino and having more plans to do things better, maybe if they meet that requirement in the future they won't have any more problems on that platform, of course that's what comes to mind.

First of all whenever we are entering in a website. We should go through the terms and conditions of this website. And if this is a gambling website so we should also read the terms and conditions and the paying strategy.

If they are saying that they will pay of all your winnings. And they refuse to pay. So I will file a case in court and give them all proofs and ask for justice. This is the way which I will pick.
Without a doubt going through the legal route is necessary if the win is big, but at the same time casinos have so much money and resources that it is difficult to win a case like that by just pressuring them through the law, if the casino still worries somewhat about their reputation then you need to post your case everywhere so the case begins to affect them economically, in fact I really think that in many cases following this route should be way more effective than going through the legal route.

I think the same, I think that a casino one of the things apart from its security that it should always take care of is its Reputation, and in general, when it comes to problems that are relatively small, it can be fixed without affecting all confidence, there are casinos that opt for communicate at once with the person to solve it, it is obvious, these things should not be let go, if the support person cannot solve it, they must escalate it quickly to be able to fix the problem, a good casino always has a very good relationship with its players and customers, it is something that must always be maintained, a casino survives thanks to its customers.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
For the first time you will first report to them and if they fail to contact or respond to you then you will carry a negative information about them you can go to accusation and file a petition against them, so that is the best way you can come against them and also report to other people so that people will be aware of what happened or what you passed through and nobody will be pressing them again since they are for scamming
This is not the first time these kind of events had been happening and people especially gamblers keep complaining from one scam casino to the other. Many of the scam casinos that are available in the gambling market are always making there customers regret of ever using them. The market is now very competitive and every casinos are using different means to attract gamblers to keep using their platform. When gamblers finally had a bigger winnings, their account will be block so that they will not be able to withdraw their funds because they don't want to make any loses.
therefore we gamblers need to stay at a casino that is already trusted. don't care about new casinos that usually give big bonuses.
but sometimes, errors also occur to users who do not know the rules of the casino, such as using a VPN, or other mistakes gamblers often make.
however, mistakes can occur on both sides.



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November 02, 2022, 07:02:26 AM
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therefore we gamblers need to stay at a casino that is already trusted. don't care about new casinos that usually give big bonuses.
but sometimes, errors also occur to users who do not know the rules of the casino, such as using a VPN, or other mistakes gamblers often make.
however, mistakes can occur on both sides.
The error occurred due to the negligence of the gambler, who did not read the rules in every casino.
It's our job to ensure that we don't try to break any of its rules, including using VPNs that are already banned in most casinos.
But VPN use is still allowed in some casinos, although maybe they need something else to allow us to use a VPN.
But if the casinos don't pay us for reasons they don't want to tell us, I guess it's going to be hard for us to ask for justice because it's going to cost more to get it done.
And in that case, maybe we shouldn't ask the casino for more and just leave it.

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therefore we gamblers need to stay at a casino that is already trusted. don't care about new casinos that usually give big bonuses.
but sometimes, errors also occur to users who do not know the rules of the casino, such as using a VPN, or other mistakes gamblers often make.
however, mistakes can occur on both sides.
The error occurred due to the negligence of the gambler, who did not read the rules in every casino.
It's our job to ensure that we don't try to break any of its rules, including using VPNs that are already banned in most casinos.
this is the problem most of the time that gamblers only deals in depositing and withdrawing without thinking or looking at the TOC , with that issue sometimes violations does not intended or intentional .

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But VPN use is still allowed in some casinos, although maybe they need something else to allow us to use a VPN.
But VPN users are mostly the account that being tracked or being accused of cheating  or violating other rules.


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But if the casinos don't pay us for reasons they don't want to tell us, I guess it's going to be hard for us to ask for justice because it's going to cost more to get it done.
And in that case, maybe we shouldn't ask the casino for more and just leave it.
and we have some sites here that Hides in their privacy secrecy and that is being abused by scam sites.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
actually there is no complete or perfect thing you can do because legalities are just a formal complaining place but the truth is? the teeth in Online gambling is not that strong to bite scammers or bad casinos.

we have seen in this forum and out about casino cases and the victims/players issue and till not there are no result about their complaints .

The best thing here is to find reputable casino without big issues, and always have a print screen of each win you made so in any case ? you will have some proofs on what is your complaining is all about.

Make a report in your local court or report to casinoguru, askgamblers or gamblingcommission.gov.uk. Although personally I never make a report about scam casino, but AFAIK those sites which I mentioned before are trusted and most gamblers usually make complain on there. As long as you've record the whole proof to accuse the casino, you're never break any terms of service, you wouldn't lose.
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If its a high-rated gambling site, most likely they will honor your winnings. Hope that you have not violated any of the terms of use that they set for their casino like using multiple accounts, excessive bonus hunting, exploiting loopholes etc.

What I will do if they really withheld your winnings:
1) Find the Ann thread in bitcointalk and show all the screenshots, definitely someone will come over to find you.
2) Go to sites like Askgambler, Casinoguru to post your cases
3) Find their social media like TG, twitter, Instagram etc and start asking for their customer service. Most probably they will ask to DM
4) Try to withdraw smaller amounts along the way and continue playing to show that you are a legit player.

However do give them time to investigate or process your refunds, but do keep in constant contact so that they know you are on the line on it. Good luck!

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

It happened to many users; the easiest way is to open the ANN of that particular site in this forum and post your complaint.

It is usually observed that site owners followups on such platforms and resolve the complaint. But for the safer side, please don't use the sitwhoseich reviews that aren't good by its existing users.
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November 02, 2022, 01:36:37 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

It happened to many users; the easiest way is to open the ANN of that particular site in this forum and post your complaint.

It is usually observed that site owners followups on such platforms and resolve the complaint. But for the safer side, please don't use the sitwhoseich reviews that aren't good by its existing users.


Most often, reported case are users who have violated the gambling site rule deliberately or unintentionally because I see no reason why you will play on casinos like Duelbit, Roobet, FortuneJack, Rollbit, stake and other reputable gambling websites and wouldn’t pay you except when they have technical issues or perhaps have some issues on backend that they are not aware about, such ANN threads are most often than not trolls and cheaters.

If you play and didn’t do anything wrong, a casino that has respect itself will pay as long the users is legit, no company want to be sued because they know that you aren’t just suing them for the amount of money won, you will likely sue them for damages and stress went through.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
If that will happen then it's better to contact their customers service and ask why isn't his happening why you can not withdraw your funds and most and for all if this casino has an Announcement threads here, then you can comment in that thread And also  you need to remember that when you play in a casino don't try to cheat or make a suspecios moves to avoid this kind of scenario. Play fair in trusted casino.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
Best way is to check if it is registered, then to check as well the people behind that gambling website if there are any available informations. You may also as for help to ither players for a tip of advice on what to do. If all of these won't work, there are chances wherein that specific gambling site is a fraud in the first place which made you 'win'. Harsh reality is that many people were victimized by these gambling platforms. It is not only the money they have lost but also the happiness it destroyed on the players' end. I've had a friend who was a victim of fake gambling site. He became greedy because most of the time he wins on his games without knowing results are manipulated. That gambling site is gone already at the moment but be careful because surely, there are lots of them.
Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

It happened to many users; the easiest way is to open the ANN of that particular site in this forum and post your complaint.

It is usually observed that site owners followups on such platforms and resolve the complaint. But for the safer side, please don't use the sitwhoseich reviews that aren't good by its existing users.

Agree.
If it won't get you back what you've lost, atleast you will be a help to those possible victims as well. It will just be unfortunate that you won't retrieve what they have 'stolen' on your end. Complaints won't work if it is not a legitimate site from the beginning, chances are owners running with those money. And again creating the same modus to victimize more people.

Prevention is always better than cure. It will just be a lesson, if ever this instance occured to you. A lesson that if it is money which is involved you have to be more careful on entrusting your assets to other people or platforms.

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Its simple all you need to do is to email them or using their live chat to communicate with the representative to know why you were restricted from making withdrawal, you don't need to take any legal action but to give them few days to get back to you and also search around if they have official thread where a representative could respond to you via the forum as you can see there are lots of load and complainant from other users which might likely take time to resolve any withdrawal issues secondly from my investigation i have come to understand that is the most difficult case to handle and it takes time figure all cases.


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I've had a friend who was a victim of fake gambling site. He became greedy because most of the time he wins on his games without knowing results are manipulated. That gambling site is gone already at the moment but be careful because surely, there are lots of them.
Many cases of scams occur on mid-level gambling sites because the reputation of the gambling is not trustworthy and don't be influenced by the high winning factor, maybe the team used that strategy by changing the script code to increase the winnings higher, so the winnings were fake and manipulation because it was proven that the team did not respond complaints from users and users have not been able to make withdrawals from users.

So to avoid such incidents, make sure you join the top gambling casinos from the recommendation list on the forum, but the risk is still there and make sure you are ready to accept the risk of losing funds from gambling.

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November 02, 2022, 07:37:48 PM
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Its simple all you need to do is to email them or using their live chat to communicate with the representative to know why you were restricted from making withdrawal, you don't need to take any legal action but to give them few days to get back to you and also search around if they have official thread where a representative could respond to you via the forum as you can see there are lots of load and complainant from other users which might likely take time to resolve any withdrawal issues secondly from my investigation i have come to understand that is the most difficult case to handle and it takes time figure all cases.
Of course, you wont really immediately having that legal action.You would really be doing first on approaching them through their support or sending up tickets or live chat support or something and want to hear out

their reasons on why they had blocked your withdrawal.If these things turns out to be unreasonable or something not that true or convincing then it would really be just right on fighting on higher scale but of course

you should really be that aware on how much you would gonna potentially spend if you are really pushing this through legal action aspect?
This is something not very cheap you know.

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If they have an announcement here with an active representative, the community may urge that person to fix the issue. Collect some proofs like pictures or screenshots, and submit the complaint here and on all the other platforms of that gambling site because it can damage their reputation, gamblers will stop playing there, and new players will stop coming in, a reputable casino cannot ignore your accusation, provided it is true and you have not committed fraud. Gamblers can thank Bitcointalk for providing a suitable forum for posting their complaints.
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Gamblers can thank Bitcointalk for providing a suitable forum for posting their complaints.
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal ways to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
Get your evidence and initiate a scam accusation thread on any casino you experience abuse of your right on, and members here will help with suggestions and advice on ways to go about getting your money, but mind you aside from the fact that, forum members can only help with the suggestion, there is nothing more that could be done from this forum you may have to take another legal process to recover your funds.

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therefore we gamblers need to stay at a casino that is already trusted. don't care about new casinos that usually give big bonuses.
but sometimes, errors also occur to users who do not know the rules of the casino, such as using a VPN, or other mistakes gamblers often make.
however, mistakes can occur on both sides.
The error occurred due to the negligence of the gambler, who did not read the rules in every casino.
It's our job to ensure that we don't try to break any of its rules, including using VPNs that are already banned in most casinos.
this is the problem most of the time that gamblers only deals in depositing and withdrawing without thinking or looking at the TOC , with that issue sometimes violations does not intended or intentional .
Actually, I also can't understand why it can happen over and over again because we see this has been happening for a long time now.
And in the end, they were forced to do KYC to be able to make withdrawals.

But VPN use is still allowed in some casinos, although maybe they need something else to allow us to use a VPN.
But VPN users are mostly the account that being tracked or being accused of cheating  or violating other rules.
That's a different problem because those who use VPNs have different purposes, but we often see users using it to create multiple accounts or commit other violations.
But I guess there are still VPN users because they want to hide their activities from tracking other parties.
And for the use of this VPN, they should first ask the casino in question so that there are no problems in the future, especially the problem of withdrawing money.

But if the casinos don't pay us for reasons they don't want to tell us, I guess it's going to be hard for us to ask for justice because it's going to cost more to get it done.
And in that case, maybe we shouldn't ask the casino for more and just leave it.
and we have some sites here that Hides in their privacy secrecy and that is being abused by scam sites.
We must be able to choose a casino that can really provide comfort in playing gambling so that we will not have problems.
And we already have those casinos for reference.

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Telling the truth about what happened to you is very important, and you should definitely do it, even though it might seem pointless, especially after many unsuccessful attempts to communicate with the customers support of the scammers.

I would recommend this place, bitcointalk, as a platform where your message will be heard and discussed, unlike many places where no one will actually see it.
If you know that you didn't comply with the casino's terms or you don't have a solid case with enough proofs then better remain silent otherwise it will backfire on you.
We witnessed many cases where gamblers accuse casinos of scamming but we quickly realize that the customer is in fact the real scammer or a abuser.
The good thing about this forum is that most of its members are unbiased and most of the times they will take the side of the customer and do their best to help him.

This is what I like about this forum too. If there's a legit accusation, a gambling site can lose its reputation in a matter of days, the reputation that has been earned for years. And it doesn't matter whether the accuser is a known forum member or a newbie. What matters is the proof he's providing.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal ways to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
Get your evidence and initiate a scam accusation thread on any casino you experience abuse of your right on, and members here will help with suggestions and advice on ways to go about getting your money, but mind you aside from the fact that, forum members can only help with the suggestion, there is nothing more that could be done from this forum you may have to take another legal process to recover your funds.

This is following the protocols, but if it happens that they do not pay attention to this and continue to operate, because there are many accusations of scam here in the forum for a site 1xbit, 1xbet and a neighbor showed me that she had registered on this site called 1xbet , I told her not to get any money because that site is classified as scammers, and that lady is not in the forum, it is most likely that if she had not told me anything, they would have stolen her, so it is difficult protect people who are not in the forum and from what I have seen there are many people who do not know much, I think I felt like an ambassador of bitcointalk there, I liked avoiding being scammed.

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Then lastly I think he needs to patient with them you can't just raise a ticket and expect immediately response from them no service care center works like, maybe after going through some questioning and lastly you responded it might take another working days or so to get fixed and I believe those reputable gambling site always have a representative from Bitcointalk forum so the best is deal with them directly from here for fast tracking and response.


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And yeah, many scammers, or frustrated gambling addicts are coming here and accusing various sites in something that hasn't happened, but they are easily spotted by the community.
True!

When someone feels innocent and thought of that he's been refused to get paid by the casino with his assumed "winnings". On the other side, he's just a frustrated gambler that wants to take back his loses.

But eventually, everyone from the community finds out that he's in no position to accused the casino because everything went well and according to the process and the thing is that, he just lost.



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And yeah, many scammers, or frustrated gambling addicts are coming here and accusing various sites in something that hasn't happened, but they are easily spotted by the community.
True!

When someone feels innocent and thought of that he's been refused to get paid by the casino with his assumed "winnings". On the other side, he's just a frustrated gambler that wants to take back his loses.
actually it is not frustrations instead that is worth a claim? because when you literally knew that you are fair and legit gambler and being accused  cheating or denied being paid then all we wanted is to sue that site for our money and that is reality of action.
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But eventually, everyone from the community finds out that he's in no position to accused the casino because everything went well and according to the process and the thing is that, he just lost.
and that is another story to tell , because we have seen so much of this kind in the past and still now that those cheaters are trying to bring the site reputation with their lies because they knew that casino mostly does not want to reveal their proofs for privacy purposes .

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Then lastly I think he needs to patient with them you can't just raise a ticket and expect immediately response from them no service care center works like, maybe after going through some questioning
at least the site needs to respond to the issue or let the complainant learn what would be the process and how long this will take?

because as gamblers we are most concern in our money , as we deposit with trust and of course expect to withdraw with trust as well.


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and lastly you responded it might take another working days or so to get fixed and I believe those reputable gambling site always have a representative from Bitcointalk forum so the best is deal with them directly from here for fast tracking and response.
but do not expect those representative to be online 24/7 , they are also human, so I assume that the perfect way to raise our problem is thru ticket and support.









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at least the site needs to respond to the issue or let the complainant learn what would be the process and how long this will take?
It is the duty of their live chat support representative. They have to provide the process, especially if the customer asks for its details. Otherwise, suspicions will start to arise.
So for casinos here, please let your clients be aware of this kind of process.


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but do not expect those representative to be online 24/7 , they are also human, so I assume that the perfect way to raise our problem is thru ticket and support.
Depending on the support system of the casino, if they are online 24/7 they should be able to respond to the customer as soon as possible. If not, it is understandable that it will take some time compared to the live chat support system which is online 24/7.

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And yeah, many scammers, or frustrated gambling addicts are coming here and accusing various sites in something that hasn't happened, but they are easily spotted by the community.
True!

When someone feels innocent and thought of that he's been refused to get paid by the casino with his assumed "winnings". On the other side, he's just a frustrated gambler that wants to take back his loses.

But eventually, everyone from the community finds out that he's in no position to accused the casino because everything went well and according to the process and the thing is that, he just lost.

If he can show proof that he is clean and he is unjustly accused of cheating then he has a case, there are instances or cases where the accused is innocent its the casino's fault, everything depends on the proof, but if you have a good case it's better that you have it against a casino with a good reputation because they are more than willing to correct their mistakes, gives the money back and even compensate the complainant.

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November 04, 2022, 09:38:49 PM
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And yeah, many scammers, or frustrated gambling addicts are coming here and accusing various sites in something that hasn't happened, but they are easily spotted by the community.
True!

When someone feels innocent and thought of that he's been refused to get paid by the casino with his assumed "winnings". On the other side, he's just a frustrated gambler that wants to take back his loses.

But eventually, everyone from the community finds out that he's in no position to accused the casino because everything went well and according to the process and the thing is that, he just lost.

If he can show proof that he is clean and he is unjustly accused of cheating then he has a case, there are instances or cases where the accused is innocent its the casino's fault, everything depends on the proof, but if you have a good case it's better that you have it against a casino with a good reputation because they are more than willing to correct their mistakes, gives the money back and even compensate the complainant.

the problem is that it is impossible for the customer to prove innocence, the casino's security system is something that only the employees of the casino's security department have access to, so when the casino accuses a given customer of having too many accounts there is no one outside the casino that can prove the customer's innocence, in short: the casino's TOS has a great power that makes the casino something that has the power to do anything including stealing customers' money, without being penalized or accused of being scammers, has an example right here on the forum, where this casino every day is stealing money from customers and always uses TOS

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November 04, 2022, 11:23:23 PM
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And yeah, many scammers, or frustrated gambling addicts are coming here and accusing various sites in something that hasn't happened, but they are easily spotted by the community.
True!

When someone feels innocent and thought of that he's been refused to get paid by the casino with his assumed "winnings". On the other side, he's just a frustrated gambler that wants to take back his loses.

But eventually, everyone from the community finds out that he's in no position to accused the casino because everything went well and according to the process and the thing is that, he just lost.

If he can show proof that he is clean and he is unjustly accused of cheating then he has a case, there are instances or cases where the accused is innocent its the casino's fault, everything depends on the proof, but if you have a good case it's better that you have it against a casino with a good reputation because they are more than willing to correct their mistakes, gives the money back and even compensate the complainant.
It's in general.

There are gamblers that would play victim and try to discredit the casinos that they're playing with but, the reality is distorted by them and they're making it look how bad they are.

actually it is not frustrations instead that is worth a claim? because when you literally knew that you are fair and legit gambler and being accused  cheating or denied being paid then all we wanted is to sue that site for our money and that is reality of action.
That's for another case that's really happening in the community, I've seen bunch of them posting here and getting the sympathy of the community but then, they're found to be at wrong.



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November 04, 2022, 11:46:47 PM
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Then lastly I think he needs to patient with them you can't just raise a ticket and expect immediately response from them no service care center works like, maybe after going through some questioning
at least the site needs to respond to the issue or let the complainant learn what would be the process and how long this will take?

because as gamblers we are most concern in our money , as we deposit with trust and of course expect to withdraw with trust as well.


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and lastly you responded it might take another working days or so to get fixed and I believe those reputable gambling site always have a representative from Bitcointalk forum so the best is deal with them directly from here for fast tracking and response.
but do not expect those representative to be online 24/7 , they are also human, so I assume that the perfect way to raise our problem is thru ticket and support.
This is why its always been important on choosing up the best site or the popular ones which it is unlikely you would be experiencing off these things but we know that probabilities or chances would really be there.

This is why we should really be that mindful when it comes on choosing which platform or site that we do tend to get involved into.When it comes to locked up funds or winnings hadnt been given yet.

Then the best approach would be talking first on the team, if things turns out to be unhandled then this is where you do consider out on getting some words from the community.
Legal actions made up if there are no choice but making this as a last resort.

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November 04, 2022, 11:50:39 PM
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And yeah, many scammers, or frustrated gambling addicts are coming here and accusing various sites in something that hasn't happened, but they are easily spotted by the community.
True!

When someone feels innocent and thought of that he's been refused to get paid by the casino with his assumed "winnings". On the other side, he's just a frustrated gambler that wants to take back his loses.

But eventually, everyone from the community finds out that he's in no position to accused the casino because everything went well and according to the process and the thing is that, he just lost.

If he can show proof that he is clean and he is unjustly accused of cheating then he has a case, there are instances or cases where the accused is innocent its the casino's fault, everything depends on the proof, but if you have a good case it's better that you have it against a casino with a good reputation because they are more than willing to correct their mistakes, gives the money back and even compensate the complainant.
Even at such situation Casino could deny to pay the winning amount. If he have spend his money on reputed platform, somehow he can get support through the forum and receive his winning. Apart from this, the only way possible is to create a scam accusation. I don't think filing a complaint to the cyber crime portal or something similar will help in such incidents.

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November 05, 2022, 12:36:02 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
If that will happen then it's better to contact their customers service and ask why isn't his happening why you can not withdraw your funds and most and for all if this casino has an Announcement threads here, then you can comment in that thread And also  you need to remember that when you play in a casino don't try to cheat or make a suspecios moves to avoid this kind of scenario. Play fair in trusted casino.

  - Everyone knows that committing fraud on any gambling site platform will not bring good results in the end. That's why if anyone enters a casino here with cryptocurrency and anyone tries to create multiple accounts for sure in the end there will be problems when it comes to the withdrawal transaction especially if it is a large amount.

The main thing that the management of the casino will do immediately is they will first carefully investigate their users to see if they have not violated any policies and rules in their gambling.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
If it is a licensed casino, then you maybe able to take legal steps. Contact their license provide and file a complaint. If the amount is significant and you don't receive any positive response from the license provider or the casino, then contact your local law enforcement team, they will be able to help you with something or provide you with some guidance. If it is a non licensed casino, you likely won't be able to do anything. But in both cases, make sure to open disputes on various gambling related forum. If the casino cares about their reputation, they will likely return your winnings and funds (if you won without breaking any ToS).

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November 05, 2022, 01:13:41 PM
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The main thing that the management of the casino will do immediately is they will first carefully investigate their users to see if they have not violated any policies and rules in their gambling.
That's the first thing that they'll do before they release the money to the gambler and that will come into a long investigation if they suspect that the user won that by surprise. They're always suspecting their winners if that's big money to be withdrawn.
The battle will be long into the courts if the winner don't have a lot of money to pay for all of the cost of those trials and the casino might have just to settle it for a lower amount but it's up to the petitioner/gambler if he'll agree on that deal.

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November 05, 2022, 04:23:41 PM
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When someone feels innocent and thought of that he's been refused to get paid by the casino with his assumed "winnings". On the other side, he's just a frustrated gambler that wants to take back his loses.

But eventually, everyone from the community finds out that he's in no position to accused the casino because everything went well and according to the process and the thing is that, he just lost.
If he can show proof that he is clean and he is unjustly accused of cheating then he has a case, there are instances or cases where the accused is innocent its the casino's fault, everything depends on the proof, but if you have a good case it's better that you have it against a casino with a good reputation because they are more than willing to correct their mistakes, gives the money back and even compensate the complainant.
Even at such situation Casino could deny to pay the winning amount. If he have spend his money on reputed platform, somehow he can get support through the forum and receive his winning. Apart from this, the only way possible is to create a scam accusation. I don't think filing a complaint to the cyber crime portal or something similar will help in such incidents.
I think cybercrime portal only deals with larger amounts but if they think you are complaining about a small winning then you will hardly get a response from them as they think it was only a waste of time and they can not get a bribe for solving your case but this act sounds inappropriate. They could be reported for this because they are not doing their duties well.

Our forum is only a crypto forum and not some kind of a helping platform but it's amazing how scam cases can be solve most of the times on here. Do some members here voluntary help contacting those who are in charge of the platform? Or their representatives are the ones who saw the complaint on here?

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The main thing that the management of the casino will do immediately is they will first carefully investigate their users to see if they have not violated any policies and rules in their gambling.
That's the first thing that they'll do before they release the money to the gambler and that will come into a long investigation if they suspect that the user won that by surprise. They're always suspecting their winners if that's big money to be withdrawn.
The battle will be long into the courts if the winner don't have a lot of money to pay for all of the cost of those trials and the casino might have just to settle it for a lower amount but it's up to the petitioner/gambler if he'll agree on that deal.
But one thing we have to know is that every gambler is to win big so casino companies, management and customer care service agents should also know that so that when a gambler wins big, it should be a surprise to them, Because that the normal norm for all gamblers. Now the question says,

Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?

The legal ways as it is said before, the first thing is that you the gambler did not violated the rules and the company refused to pay you because you win big, sue them in the court of law and present all the necessary documents and stake analysis, The date of the stake, amount used in betting and amount won. The site domain and the statements made by the company base on the refusal of payment. Everything communication between you and the company must be presented to your lawyer









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November 05, 2022, 08:10:08 PM
 #160

When someone feels innocent and thought of that he's been refused to get paid by the casino with his assumed "winnings". On the other side, he's just a frustrated gambler that wants to take back his loses.

But eventually, everyone from the community finds out that he's in no position to accused the casino because everything went well and according to the process and the thing is that, he just lost.
If he can show proof that he is clean and he is unjustly accused of cheating then he has a case, there are instances or cases where the accused is innocent its the casino's fault, everything depends on the proof, but if you have a good case it's better that you have it against a casino with a good reputation because they are more than willing to correct their mistakes, gives the money back and even compensate the complainant.
Even at such situation Casino could deny to pay the winning amount. If he have spend his money on reputed platform, somehow he can get support through the forum and receive his winning. Apart from this, the only way possible is to create a scam accusation. I don't think filing a complaint to the cyber crime portal or something similar will help in such incidents.
I think cybercrime portal only deals with larger amounts but if they think you are complaining about a small winning then you will hardly get a response from them as they think it was only a waste of time and they can not get a bribe for solving your case but this act sounds inappropriate. They could be reported for this because they are not doing their duties well.

I disagree, I think they will also attend to the crime no matter how much the amount is.  It is that people who where cheated with small amount doesn't bother at all.

Our forum is only a crypto forum and not some kind of a helping platform but it's amazing how scam cases can be solve most of the times on here. Do some members here voluntary help contacting those who are in charge of the platform? Or their representatives are the ones who saw the complaint on here?

The forum is popular, especially with crypto enthusiasts.  So people even those not registered in this forum are lurking around looking for beneficial information that can help them gain profit from their trades.   Aside from that, this forum is knowledge-rich with crypto information, even crypto opinions from different walks of life.  So basically, if someone posted a scam accusation here, it will be greatly known outside the forum.

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November 06, 2022, 01:33:07 PM
 #161

That's the first thing that they'll do before they release the money to the gambler and that will come into a long investigation if they suspect that the user won that by surprise. They're always suspecting their winners if that's big money to be withdrawn.
The battle will be long into the courts if the winner don't have a lot of money to pay for all of the cost of those trials and the casino might have just to settle it for a lower amount but it's up to the petitioner/gambler if he'll agree on that deal.
But one thing we have to know is that every gambler is to win big so casino companies, management and customer care service agents should also know that so that when a gambler wins big, it should be a surprise to them, Because that the normal norm for all gamblers. Now the question says,
They're aware of that. What you're missing is them validating the win and the gambler who had won such jackpots. It's part of their business that they're anticipating someone's going to win big but they're mostly expecting that many are going to lose.
And if someone wins big, it's no longer a surprise to them and it's just like dealing with day to day life with what they do as they work inside the casino.

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November 06, 2022, 01:54:27 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
We as small customers cannot take much action if this kind of fraud occurs. But I will complain on different sites like ANN threat casino chatting site etc section. And I will tell all the members about my fraud.To them I will reflect the integrity of the entire incident. If every customer is aware then slowly all those casino sites will be destroyed.
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November 06, 2022, 04:38:18 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
We as small customers cannot take much action if this kind of fraud occurs. But I will complain on different sites like ANN threat casino chatting site etc section. And I will tell all the members about my fraud.To them I will reflect the integrity of the entire incident. If every customer is aware then slowly all those casino sites will be destroyed.
Generally, the customer takes legal action only when he has relevant information. Moreover, if the amount is less, many people avoid those things. I think if any legal or good site reflects any such problem then if you can share the matter with them they can take appropriate action. Top level has no chance of such fraud. If there is any missing, they try to solve it quickly. I think that solution can be found only by knocking for their concentration.

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November 07, 2022, 01:18:39 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
We as small customers cannot take much action if this kind of fraud occurs. But I will complain on different sites like ANN threat casino chatting site etc section. And I will tell all the members about my fraud.To them I will reflect the integrity of the entire incident. If every customer is aware then slowly all those casino sites will be destroyed.
I agree with what you want to do. First we have to collect all the evidence and then we have to file a report against them. I don't know if there will be any action against them if we report in their name. So knowing everything we have.  If we have to act with understanding, we may face problems now. Therefore, what we do should be done after thinking a few times before.


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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
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In this case I think if your casino or gambling platform is legit and if they are licensed then it has basis if there are no irregularities then you can contract with them. Generally, if the amount is small, it does not create any obstacle, but when it is large, it creates various obstacles. Before making a complaint you must check carefully whether you have any missed matches with various conditions. After informing them if everything is fine they will definitely let you know if there is a problem and the next step will depend on that.

Many people get nervous and when a casino blocks the account to conduct an investigation. They accuse the casino of being scammers. For me, if this happens, the first step is to talk to the casino, as you point out, f you have done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide, things will work out, especially if we are talking about a trusted casino like the many we see on the forum.

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November 07, 2022, 05:33:37 AM
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If the casino site had ANN in this forum, I would visit it and complain about my case. I hope they will respond and wait a while because I know that their site has many users who may also have different cases to handle. If they don't respond in a few days, I may open a discussion with the other members and ask for their help solving my case. And if the evidence I provide can help me to get justice, I think the casino site will help solve it because I am not guilty of anything.
Well I believe everyone will always make complaint into the live support or the official announcement in this forum, but the thing is we're don't know if the representative will want to solve your case or not. Let's say you're a genuine gambler, you have full evidence to show you're not wrong and you're deserve to get your winnings, but what if the casino don't want to pay it? obviously you need a help of court or third party who're a gambling mediator that would force the scam casino to pay your winnings.

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I don't seem to have seen anyone who complained here on cryptocurrency gambling platforms have their issue resolved. Most of the time I read in the complaints that they were not given the justice they wanted for what was done to them.
I guess you didn't check thoroughly then since many gambler complaints related to crypto gambling platforms were resolved after a certain amount of time in this forum.

Most of those resolved complaints were 100% legit and pertained to popular crypto gambling sites. The ones that don't get resolved are usually linked to scamming gamblers or scamming sites(1xbit).
Probably, most of the unresolved complaints are those coming from suspicious gamblers, which later on discovered as big time scammers. However, most of the mid to high rated casinos have quickly resolved the legal complaints thrown at them, otherwise they will ruin their own credibility which they happen to build for the longest time. If there are still unresolved cases, maybe these high rated sites have their own reasons for that.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
We as small customers cannot take much action if this kind of fraud occurs. But I will complain on different sites like ANN threat casino chatting site etc section. And I will tell all the members about my fraud.To them I will reflect the integrity of the entire incident. If every customer is aware then slowly all those casino sites will be destroyed.
I agree with what you want to do. First we have to collect all the evidence and then we have to file a report against them. I don't know if there will be any action against them if we report in their name. So knowing everything we have.  If we have to act with understanding, we may face problems now. Therefore, what we do should be done after thinking a few times before.
Hopefully, it can make all members aware of the scam they are doing and keep them away from that casino site. Slowly, it will surely make the casino lose its reputation and, of course, its members. But we don't know if they will continue to promote elsewhere because the internet can make them still able to get new members who will become their targets. But at least the members in this forum can be more aware of casino sites like this so they will never play on such sites. There are still many casino sites that have a good reputation, so we can choose them as a place to play gambling.

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November 08, 2022, 06:23:59 AM
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Probably, most of the unresolved complaints are those coming from suspicious gamblers, which later on discovered as big time scammers. However, most of the mid to high rated casinos have quickly resolved the legal complaints thrown at them, otherwise they will ruin their own credibility which they happen to build for the longest time. If there are still unresolved cases, maybe these high rated sites have their own reasons for that.
It is common to see users which are new to the forum make wild accusations against casinos that have a good reputation in the forum, despite this fact the community still takes seriously any accusation as long as there is evidence of any wrongdoing from the casinos, but most of the time we find out that the ones that are in the wrong are the users making those accusations, and in many cases this is a recurrent behavior in them.

With this in mind the scenario the OP is proposing is not very realistic, as most casinos understand their reputation is worth way more than whatever they need to pay to a player which won big at their casino.

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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
We as small customers cannot take much action if this kind of fraud occurs. But I will complain on different sites like ANN threat casino chatting site etc section. And I will tell all the members about my fraud.To them I will reflect the integrity of the entire incident. If every customer is aware then slowly all those casino sites will be destroyed.
If this happens to anyone, the needful to be done is to make complains to any reputable cryptocurrency platform,  this should be done with a clear evidence to show how real it is. Making awareness is just the best because it has a final result.
reputable cryptocurrency forum? in which? Bitcointalk?  Grin


the best thing to do is to check if they have representative in this forum because if none? then for whom you will complain here?

post in ask gambler , but one thing for sure, there is a very tin chance that you can get your funds back if the site is truly scam .









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If its a high-rated gambling site, most likely they will honor your winnings. Hope that you have not violated any of the terms of use that they set for their casino like using multiple accounts, excessive bonus hunting, exploiting loopholes etc.

What I will do if they really withheld your winnings:
1) Find the Ann thread in bitcointalk and show all the screenshots, definitely someone will come over to find you.
2) Go to sites like Askgambler, Casinoguru to post your cases
3) Find their social media like TG, twitter, Instagram etc and start asking for their customer service. Most probably they will ask to DM
4) Try to withdraw smaller amounts along the way and continue playing to show that you are a legit player.

However do give them time to investigate or process your refunds, but do keep in constant contact so that they know you are on the line on it. Good luck!
You equally have a point here, and to be frankly speaking, these are actually the right steps for one to take if your funds are been withheld by a legitimate gambling casino. But if the casino happens to be a scam casino just like "1xbit" and co, then I'm sorry, all efforts will be a total waste of time, as funds will never be recovered. Which is why choosing the right casino to gamble with, is the first thing any gambler must do for safe gambling and fund security.

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And yeah, many scammers, or frustrated gambling addicts are coming here and accusing various sites in something that hasn't happened, but they are easily spotted by the community.
True!

When someone feels innocent and thought of that he's been refused to get paid by the casino with his assumed "winnings". On the other side, he's just a frustrated gambler that wants to take back his loses.

But eventually, everyone from the community finds out that he's in no position to accused the casino because everything went well and according to the process and the thing is that, he just lost.

If he can show proof that he is clean and he is unjustly accused of cheating then he has a case, there are instances or cases where the accused is innocent its the casino's fault, everything depends on the proof, but if you have a good case it's better that you have it against a casino with a good reputation because they are more than willing to correct their mistakes, gives the money back and even compensate the complainant.

That's right, there are such cases too. Even the fairest casino in the world is not immune to mistakes. But what distinguishes them from scammers is that they can admit their mistakes, and, yes, they can not only unblock a mistakenly blocked account, not only allow to withdraw money from it, but they can even compensate the complainant if he/she was wrongly accused.

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November 09, 2022, 02:39:10 PM
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Of course, before everything, the casino platform must be in the legitimate category operating legally under any government agency that belongs to this area or country. Because if a casino belongs to an unregulated business, it doesn't need to go through the legal way because it turns out to be illegal, and after that, there's no chance of getting what you want back from them.

But if it is regulated, in short, the casino platform is legitimate, the legal way is the right first step for you to take in a situation like that dude. So that everything will move according to the proper process in my opinion and my view.


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November 09, 2022, 03:07:14 PM
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You can easily take action if you're with a legitimate and highly reputable casino site but if you're gambling with a scam site, I guess it will be hard for you to get paid since that's their common scamming strategy. The important things that you should do is to provide legal proof to that you didn't violate any of their TOS and have clearly read and understood all of it and that you've complied with all their requirements. Make sure that you can support and justify your claims with legal evidence.
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November 09, 2022, 03:22:18 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
All the big casino websites out there will never cheat their customers. Their thinking is always at a height. But we heard a news earlier that a Nigerian man won $51000 with just $1.07.That such a big win was given to him but he was not cheated. So let's say that all the big casino sites out there don't cheat their customers. But all those casino sites deceive customers that all casino sites have no popularity and no future plans.

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November 09, 2022, 05:42:37 PM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
The first thing you need to remember is that for large scale gambling you must be gambling at a licensed casino site. Then if it happens as you mentioned in your post then immediately report it to the licensing company for that casino with all valid proof. Then they can help you.  And if there is any ANN in this forum about that casino then don't feel free to open a scam case against that site. It might also help you in some way to get your fair


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November 09, 2022, 08:15:09 PM
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You can easily take action if you're with a legitimate and highly reputable casino site but if you're gambling with a scam site, I guess it will be hard for you to get paid since that's their common scamming strategy. The important things that you should do is to provide legal proof to that you didn't violate any of their TOS and have clearly read and understood all of it and that you've complied with all their requirements. Make sure that you can support and justify your claims with legal evidence.
It is important in those cases to begin to gather all the evidence that you can if you think the casino is trying to get away with not paying you, now we must also learn the difference between a legitimate casino just checking that everything is alright and verifying that there was no cheating and a casino trying to scam you, because if the win is really big even trusted casinos will need to go through a series of steps in order to confirm that your win is legitimate, and once that happens you will be paid.

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November 09, 2022, 11:29:52 PM
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You can easily take action if you're with a legitimate and highly reputable casino site but if you're gambling with a scam site, I guess it will be hard for you to get paid since that's their common scamming strategy. The important things that you should do is to provide legal proof to that you didn't violate any of their TOS and have clearly read and understood all of it and that you've complied with all their requirements. Make sure that you can support and justify your claims with legal evidence.
It is important in those cases to begin to gather all the evidence that you can if you think the casino is trying to get away with not paying you, now we must also learn the difference between a legitimate casino just checking that everything is alright and verifying that there was no cheating and a casino trying to scam you, because if the win is really big even trusted casinos will need to go through a series of steps in order to confirm that your win is legitimate, and once that happens you will be paid.
Solid evidence should really be provided so that the community would be able to say that you are telling the truth and not just simply trolling around because community wont really be giving out their advises and
sympathy if they wont really be able to see that the thing been complaint was real or just joking.Whenever a certain gambler or user had experienced these locked or hold funds then it would really be
sensible that negotiations would be happening first in between the user and the casino.If the user hadnt get some convincing answers or explainations then this is where these issues
should be posted on forums and if things turns out not to be able to get resolved then legal actions should be made up too.

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November 09, 2022, 11:56:15 PM
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Solid evidence should really be provided so that the community would be able to say that you are telling the truth and not just simply trolling around because community wont really be giving out their advises and
sympathy if they wont really be able to see that the thing been complaint was real or just joking.Whenever a certain gambler or user had experienced these locked or hold funds then it would really be
sensible that negotiations would be happening first in between the user and the casino.If the user hadnt get some convincing answers or explainations then this is where these issues
should be posted on forums and if things turns out not to be able to get resolved then legal actions should be made up too.
There are people who want to do defamation on some casino and just posting a scam accusation against that casino would put a casino on the spot that's why it is needed some solid proofs and good stand point of the people who are putting an accusation otherwise it would be invalid for most of the forum members here. If ever the accusation where true and verified by the members here, The casino should respond or the casino would put in a bad spot like being tagged as scam here that would basically ruin their reputation especially if they are a mid to high rated gambling casino. The casino would lose a number of their customers obviously and a casino who has a good wouldn't want that. There is a low chance that casino who has a reputation wouldn't solve their case, If the victim is sure that he haven't do anything wrong. Putting up a legal case on them would be worth it especially if the casino is holding a big amount of your funds.
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November 10, 2022, 01:12:45 AM
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Assuming you gamble on a mid to high-rated gambling website and you won big but they refuse to pay up, what and what are the legal way to make sure that the platform pays up your money?
All the big casino websites out there will never cheat their customers. Their thinking is always at a height. But we heard a news earlier that a Nigerian man won $51000 with just $1.07.That such a big win was given to him but he was not cheated. So let's say that all the big casino sites out there don't cheat their customers. But all those casino sites deceive customers that all casino sites have no popularity and no future plans.
Well, we as players must and we are clear that on some occasions we can detect when a casino has suspicious behavior, and one of the easiest ways is when they begin to complain or file some complaints about their withdrawals, problems, delays, all this. They are indications, when a casino starts like this, the best thing is to withdraw and get away as much as possible, because it is most likely that they will have financial problems, however there are casinos that start very well and those that are good do not have any problem with any client .

Sometimes the misunderstandings always occur when one or more people start making withdrawals and the casinos as a security measure demand something from them, whether it is a KYC for security or something and from there the problems begin.

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