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Author Topic: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25  (Read 7076 times)
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June 23, 2023, 09:59:35 AM
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My reasoning might be speculative but it might help anyone who is looking to bet on this game. Some of you might question why Naoya Inoue challenged Stephen Fulton. The reason is simple, he is exceptionally talented, and with his accuracy to punch hard, he is worthy to challenge Stephen Fulton. Stephen Fulton has an impressive boxing record, he has shown the world his impressive defensive skills, and impressive footwork but lacks attacking abilities as per my understanding. Overall this would be an interesting match to watch and my research says that Naoya Inoue is a little better than Stephen Fulton. If betting is my primary objective, then I would bet on Naoya Inoue.

It's not a question why Inoue challenged Fulton, definitely he has the talent, it's the question on whether he can do it a a new weight class wherein he doesn't have the experience and we don't know if he can bring his power to this level.

Stephen Fulton has face a lot of great boxers as 122 lbs, for sure this could be his toughest test to date. But he is also confident that he can beat and take that 0 from Inoue. And another factor is that Fulton is a slick black fighter and it seems that Inoue hasn't fought this kind of boxer. All the boxer he fought wants to go toe to toe and not using movement at all.

Inoue is quick; he is capable of catching Fulton and possibly knocking him out. With Fulton's low KO rate, Inoue can be more aggressive and pursue him. It's true that Inoue has not fought a boxer like Fulton before, but at the same time, Fulton has not faced a fighter like Inoue either. So if there's a challenge here, I believe it will be for Fulton.

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My reasoning might be speculative but it might help anyone who is looking to bet on this game. Some of you might question why Naoya Inoue challenged Stephen Fulton. The reason is simple, he is exceptionally talented, and with his accuracy to punch hard, he is worthy to challenge Stephen Fulton. Stephen Fulton has an impressive boxing record, he has shown the world his impressive defensive skills, and impressive footwork but lacks attacking abilities as per my understanding. Overall this would be an interesting match to watch and my research says that Naoya Inoue is a little better than Stephen Fulton. If betting is my primary objective, then I would bet on Naoya Inoue.

It's not a question why Inoue challenged Fulton, definitely he has the talent, it's the question on whether he can do it a a new weight class wherein he doesn't have the experience and we don't know if he can bring his power to this level.

Stephen Fulton has face a lot of great boxers as 122 lbs, for sure this could be his toughest test to date. But he is also confident that he can beat and take that 0 from Inoue. And another factor is that Fulton is a slick black fighter and it seems that Inoue hasn't fought this kind of boxer. All the boxer he fought wants to go toe to toe and not using movement at all.

Inoue is quick; he is capable of catching Fulton and possibly knocking him out. With Fulton's low KO rate, Inoue can be more aggressive and pursue him. It's true that Inoue has not fought a boxer like Fulton before, but at the same time, Fulton has not faced a fighter like Inoue either. So if there's a challenge here, I believe it will be for Fulton.

Exactly, they are both new to each other and new to how they play the game, more on how they will review tapes and try
to create fighting strategy to counter their opponents.

And following that argument, I also believe that the challenge or pressure is on the side of Fulton
he's the current champ and he also flying to Inoue's homeland, another factor that will bring the
aggressiveness on Inoue's side.
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June 24, 2023, 03:59:38 AM
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And it now happened, WBA Super Bantamweight Champion Marlon Tapales might now be the PH boxer who has the chance to face Naoya Inoue first, instead of the expectation of the majority, that it's Casimero who is currently still climbing the 122 division rankings. Of course, Tapales meeting Inoue soon will just happen if the latter will win against Fulton.

If Stephen Fulton wins against Naoya Inoue, Marlon Tapales instead will unify his belt against him. If Fulton still wins, Tapales might meet Inoue as both will be a contender but the status of Casimero when that time comes might still be hanging because he can't even secure a big fight "for now" to somehow give him a chance to climb at a much higher rank.

There's also a possibility that later in the 122 division, a PH vs PH might face each other.

Well then, too early for these speculations mine Smiley. What matter here is, Tapales is now almost secured to have the next big fight on his timeline.

What you're saying is not entirely impossible mate because as long as Casimero will stay active and have successive fights, soon enough, his ranking will surely increase and most probably will earn himself a big fight someday. Although there might be some changes when it comes to the possible opponent of Casimero, Inoue and Tapales because I think Fulton will shuffle all the cards in time when he leaves the division and vacates the belt he is possessing, if he won his future fight with Inoue.

If Fulton will win and Inoue will stay on this current division, the chance of seeing Casimero vs Inoue might take place,
it's possible since the belt will be vacant once Fulton move up.

Though if ever Inoue will win, then the chance to see Tapales to be his next target is possible by knowing Inoue, he wanted
to unify all belts.

Let see what would be the outcome first from this upcoming fight next month.

Well, although all things are possible in the world of boxing, it can be intuited that Fulton has the ability to beat Inoue, and clearly Inoue is a rookie boxer in this category, and they can welcome him in a way he doesn't expect , but seeing how Inoue is, I see it as difficult for them to win, at first I would have preferred that Casimero welcome him, but Fulton has everything so that he can win, but since we come with an image of an Inoue who is considered As almost a Boxing genius , he implies that he can face things in the Same way as in his Previous category.

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June 24, 2023, 09:45:31 AM
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And following that argument, I also believe that the challenge or pressure is on the side of Fulton
he's the current champ and he also flying to Inoue's homeland, another factor that will bring the
aggressiveness on Inoue's side.

I agree. He will be competing in Japan, which is considered a tough venue to win in. Therefore, he should engage in a toe-to-toe battle with Inoue and aim for a knockout if he wants to ensure victory. Simply running and scoring points wouldn't work against Inoue, as the latter is also quick and possesses jabs that could seriously harm his opponent.

Inoue seeks action, so in order to prevent this fight from becoming boring, Fulton needs to employ a different style—one that would intimidate Inoue and prevent him from being the aggressive attacker.

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June 24, 2023, 12:14:42 PM
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And following that argument, I also believe that the challenge or pressure is on the side of Fulton
he's the current champ and he also flying to Inoue's homeland, another factor that will bring the
aggressiveness on Inoue's side.

I agree. He will be competing in Japan, which is considered a tough venue to win in. Therefore, he should engage in a toe-to-toe battle with Inoue and aim for a knockout if he wants to ensure victory. Simply running and scoring points wouldn't work against Inoue, as the latter is also quick and possesses jabs that could seriously harm his opponent.

Inoue seeks action, so in order to prevent this fight from becoming boring, Fulton needs to employ a different style—one that would intimidate Inoue and prevent him from being the aggressive attacker.
An action packed fight is what the people wanted and hopefully, Fulton will able to give that to the people mainly his fans so that Inoue will be given a good fight because his last wasn't that impressive as Butler was just aiming for survival. It's like he already figured out who's the winner in the end.


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And following that argument, I also believe that the challenge or pressure is on the side of Fulton
he's the current champ and he also flying to Inoue's homeland, another factor that will bring the
aggressiveness on Inoue's side.

I agree. He will be competing in Japan, which is considered a tough venue to win in. Therefore, he should engage in a toe-to-toe battle with Inoue and aim for a knockout if he wants to ensure victory. Simply running and scoring points wouldn't work against Inoue, as the latter is also quick and possesses jabs that could seriously harm his opponent.

Inoue seeks action, so to prevent this fight from becoming boring, Fulton needs to employ a different style—one that would intimidate Inoue and prevent him from being the aggressive attacker.

The homeland of a fighter will have the momentum and help the countrymen win against their opponent in short You are right that mate Homeland is an advantage for inoue as we all know that people around that country will give their full support to their fighter which is inoue. And for the champ Fulton for sure he will feel a nervous because only few people will support him in the venue.
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And following that argument, I also believe that the challenge or pressure is on the side of Fulton
he's the current champ and he also flying to Inoue's homeland, another factor that will bring the
aggressiveness on Inoue's side.

I agree. He will be competing in Japan, which is considered a tough venue to win in. Therefore, he should engage in a toe-to-toe battle with Inoue and aim for a knockout if he wants to ensure victory. Simply running and scoring points wouldn't work against Inoue, as the latter is also quick and possesses jabs that could seriously harm his opponent.

Inoue seeks action, so to prevent this fight from becoming boring, Fulton needs to employ a different style—one that would intimidate Inoue and prevent him from being the aggressive attacker.

The homeland of a fighter will have the momentum and help the countrymen win against their opponent in short You are right that mate Homeland is an advantage for inoue as we all know that people around that country will give their full support to their fighter which is inoue. And for the champ Fulton for sure he will feel a nervous because only few people will support him in the venue.

That's home court advantage but it's not a sure bet that it might help the boxer itself, unless he has the talent to win in his one home land like Inoue here. But if we talk about Casimero, he has travelled a lot even at the champions own country and he beat them, causing a riot inside and outside of the ring.

I'm not saying that the Japanese will do that, their culture is very different and they show so much respect to their opponents. But we can't discount the fact that maybe Fulton has prepared 110% in this fight and wanted to get a upset win in Inoue's home court.

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And following that argument, I also believe that the challenge or pressure is on the side of Fulton
he's the current champ and he also flying to Inoue's homeland, another factor that will bring the
aggressiveness on Inoue's side.

I agree. He will be competing in Japan, which is considered a tough venue to win in. Therefore, he should engage in a toe-to-toe battle with Inoue and aim for a knockout if he wants to ensure victory. Simply running and scoring points wouldn't work against Inoue, as the latter is also quick and possesses jabs that could seriously harm his opponent.

Inoue seeks action, so to prevent this fight from becoming boring, Fulton needs to employ a different style—one that would intimidate Inoue and prevent him from being the aggressive attacker.

The homeland of a fighter will have the momentum and help the countrymen win against their opponent in short You are right that mate Homeland is an advantage for inoue as we all know that people around that country will give their full support to their fighter which is inoue. And for the champ Fulton for sure he will feel a nervous because only few people will support him in the venue.

That's home court advantage but it's not a sure bet that it might help the boxer itself, unless he has the talent to win in his one home land like Inoue here. But if we talk about Casimero, he has travelled a lot even at the champions own country and he beat them, causing a riot inside and outside of the ring.

I'm not saying that the Japanese will do that, their culture is very different and they show so much respect to their opponents. But we can't discount the fact that maybe Fulton has prepared 110% in this fight and wanted to get a upset win in Inoue's home court.

Boxers should be preparing themselves for these kind of situations as it is not everytime they can have a fight inside their own country especially in the case of Casimero because having a fight inside the Philippines will not really attract that much audience compared if he will take his fight in the opponent's country or a much bigger country to increase the profits that they will gain.

For Inoue's situation, most of his fights happen in Japan because it is already proven that they can generate a much bigger profit if the fight will be happen there. That's why Fulton have to travel towards the challenger's land because of this reason.


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June 26, 2023, 07:06:29 AM
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For Inoue's situation, most of his fights happen in Japan because it is already proven that they can generate a much bigger profit if the fight will be happen there. That's why Fulton have to travel towards the challenger's land because of this reason.

That's how the business should be run – the more money they make, the better it is for Inoue, so he can enjoy his popularity. I don't have an idea about how much his previous fights made in terms of PPV, if there are any, but perhaps the competitive amount generated by fights held in the USA is the reason they chose to keep the fight in Japan.

Some say that judges may favor Inoue, but so far, I haven't seen a controversial fight of Inoue where the judges favored him despite his performance not being so convincing because most of his wins are pretty convincing and majority are in KO.

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June 26, 2023, 07:40:35 AM
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For Inoue's situation, most of his fights happen in Japan because it is already proven that they can generate a much bigger profit if the fight will be happen there. That's why Fulton have to travel towards the challenger's land because of this reason.

That's how the business should be run – the more money they make, the better it is for Inoue, so he can enjoy his popularity. I don't have an idea about how much his previous fights made in terms of PPV, if there are any, but perhaps the competitive amount generated by fights held in the USA is the reason they chose to keep the fight in Japan.

Some say that judges may favor Inoue, but so far, I haven't seen a controversial fight of Inoue where the judges favored him despite his performance not being so convincing because most of his wins are pretty convincing and majority are in KO.

I'm not also sure whether they can generate more money in Japan or USA. I mean Fulton is from USA and Inoue is now a boxing superstar, that would be enough to attract more boxing fans to see the fight live. I'm pretty sure wherever they held this fight, whether in Japan or in the USA, they could still get enough income for this fight.
And I also gotta say, Majority of Inoue's fight ends in a very convincing victory - so I don't think there's going to be a biased judging happening in this fight.
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And following that argument, I also believe that the challenge or pressure is on the side of Fulton
he's the current champ and he also flying to Inoue's homeland, another factor that will bring the
aggressiveness on Inoue's side.

I agree. He will be competing in Japan, which is considered a tough venue to win in. Therefore, he should engage in a toe-to-toe battle with Inoue and aim for a knockout if he wants to ensure victory. Simply running and scoring points wouldn't work against Inoue, as the latter is also quick and possesses jabs that could seriously harm his opponent.

Inoue seeks action, so to prevent this fight from becoming boring, Fulton needs to employ a different style—one that would intimidate Inoue and prevent him from being the aggressive attacker.

The homeland of a fighter will have the momentum and help the countrymen win against their opponent in short You are right that mate Homeland is an advantage for inoue as we all know that people around that country will give their full support to their fighter which is inoue. And for the champ Fulton for sure he will feel a nervous because only few people will support him in the venue.
It is a challenge for Fulton to fight in foreign country where his opponent came from. But I don't think it can discourage him to do his best regardless of how many fans are cheering for him to win this fight. On the other side, it's an advantage for Inoue to fight in his home country but as others have said already, all his wins are convincing and not biased, that's how powerful Inoue is. So Fulton needs to prepare himself to have an edge.
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And following that argument, I also believe that the challenge or pressure is on the side of Fulton
he's the current champ and he also flying to Inoue's homeland, another factor that will bring the
aggressiveness on Inoue's side.

I agree. He will be competing in Japan, which is considered a tough venue to win in. Therefore, he should engage in a toe-to-toe battle with Inoue and aim for a knockout if he wants to ensure victory. Simply running and scoring points wouldn't work against Inoue, as the latter is also quick and possesses jabs that could seriously harm his opponent.

Inoue seeks action, so to prevent this fight from becoming boring, Fulton needs to employ a different style—one that would intimidate Inoue and prevent him from being the aggressive attacker.

The homeland of a fighter will have the momentum and help the countrymen win against their opponent in short You are right that mate Homeland is an advantage for inoue as we all know that people around that country will give their full support to their fighter which is inoue. And for the champ Fulton for sure he will feel a nervous because only few people will support him in the venue.
It is a challenge for Fulton to fight in foreign country where his opponent came from. But I don't think it can discourage him to do his best regardless of how many fans are cheering for him to win this fight. On the other side, it's an advantage for Inoue to fight in his home country but as others have said already, all his wins are convincing and not biased, that's how powerful Inoue is. So Fulton needs to prepare himself to have an edge.

That advantage is something that Inoue will use to manifest a win,

Fighting in front of your home crowd and fulfilling what the fans are aiming at why they are watching the fight, it's something
that he will bring to entertain and delight everyone, a very good inspiration to bring all the best and try achieving to win another
title in a different division. All will be depends on how both fighters will showcase their skills and talents.
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That advantage is something that Inoue will use to manifest a win,

Fighting in front of your home crowd and fulfilling what the fans are aiming at why they are watching the fight, it's something
that he will bring to entertain and delight everyone, a very good inspiration to bring all the best and try achieving to win another
title in a different division. All will be depends on how both fighters will showcase their skills and talents.

It will be hard for Fulton to win this fight because Inoue has all the advantage, and their record won't matter because when he feels Inoue's punch, it will be the end for him when he feels it. Because that's how it ends up for his last opponents. They underestimated him and were surprised with a punch that shook them until they were knocked out. Donaire was lucky to have a second match, but as we witnessed, Inoue has already bypassed his old self and improved a lot, and what more if he is going to fight Fulton next month?

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That advantage is something that Inoue will use to manifest a win,

Fighting in front of your home crowd and fulfilling what the fans are aiming at why they are watching the fight, it's something
that he will bring to entertain and delight everyone, a very good inspiration to bring all the best and try achieving to win another
title in a different division. All will be depends on how both fighters will showcase their skills and talents.

It will be hard for Fulton to win this fight because Inoue has all the advantage, and their record won't matter because when he feels Inoue's punch, it will be the end for him when he feels it. Because that's how it ends up for his last opponents. They underestimated him and were surprised with a punch that shook them until they were knocked out. Donaire was lucky to have a second match, but as we witnessed, Inoue has already bypassed his old self and improved a lot, and what more if he is going to fight Fulton next month?
One disadvantage though for Inoue is that this is a new weight class for him, and he didn't take a tune up fight, but instead he directly goes to the champion in Stephen Fulton. Yes we have seen how destructive he is in the bantamweight, but as the saying goes, maybe he swallow more than he can chew here in facing a American boxer in Fulton.

I wouldn't say that Donaire is lucky to have a rematch with Inoue, Nonito has the WBC belt that time and Inoue wanted to unify. So Donaire earn that rematch, it's not that he has been given that because of his stature. On the contrary, if you think about who is lucky, it is Inoue here because he bypass everyone in the rankings to face the champion as he move up in weight.

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June 27, 2023, 11:32:31 AM
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One disadvantage though for Inoue is that this is a new weight class for him, and he didn't take a tune up fight, but instead he directly goes to the champion in Stephen Fulton. Yes we have seen how destructive he is in the bantamweight, but as the saying goes, maybe he swallow more than he can chew here in facing a American boxer in Fulton.
Though it could be considered a disadvantage, I see it only as a slight one. Inoue is already a destructive fighter, and he may not need to add a significant amount of weight for this new weight class. However, let's see if he can truly live up to the expectations of many, considering that Inoue is currently in his prime.

I wouldn't say that Donaire is lucky to have a rematch with Inoue, Nonito has the WBC belt that time and Inoue wanted to unify. So Donaire earn that rematch, it's not that he has been given that because of his stature. On the contrary, if you think about who is lucky, it is Inoue here because he bypass everyone in the rankings to face the champion as he move up in weight.
Or perhaps he was fortunate because he knew he could defeat Donaire, making it another easy path to claim a belt.
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Or perhaps he was fortunate because he knew he could defeat Donaire, making it another easy path to claim a belt.

His journey was relatively smooth, going from unification to the undisputed fight. If only Casimero hadn't caused complications, we could have witnessed an exciting undisputed match. However, we can't change the past, and Inoue truly deserved that significant win and success.

Now, he is striving for another triumph, and surprisingly, many people didn't anticipate it to be a challenging task for him to defeat the champion. Perhaps this is due to his overwhelming dominance in previous fights.

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Or perhaps he was fortunate because he knew he could defeat Donaire, making it another easy path to claim a belt.

His journey was relatively smooth, going from unification to the undisputed fight. If only Casimero hadn't caused complications, we could have witnessed an exciting undisputed match. However, we can't change the past, and Inoue truly deserved that significant win and success.

Now, he is striving for another triumph, and surprisingly, many people didn't anticipate it to be a challenging task for him to defeat the champion. Perhaps this is due to his overwhelming dominance in previous fights.

Yes, it was a fight that we have been robbed in the bantamweight division, only if Casimero does't have weight issues.

And I think that the division is really strong there, but it was that Inoue was really too good at 118 division and the only boxer that might have a good chance him is Donaire but he just blasted him in 2 rounds in their rematch.

It's not an easy path for him, he just look as if the fight is very easy because he has superior skills.

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One disadvantage though for Inoue is that this is a new weight class for him, and he didn't take a tune up fight, but instead he directly goes to the champion in Stephen Fulton. Yes we have seen how destructive he is in the bantamweight, but as the saying goes, maybe he swallow more than he can chew here in facing a American boxer in Fulton.
Though it could be considered a disadvantage, I see it only as a slight one. Inoue is already a destructive fighter, and he may not need to add a significant amount of weight for this new weight class. However, let's see if he can truly live up to the expectations of many, considering that Inoue is currently in his prime.

I wouldn't say that Donaire is lucky to have a rematch with Inoue, Nonito has the WBC belt that time and Inoue wanted to unify. So Donaire earn that rematch, it's not that he has been given that because of his stature. On the contrary, if you think about who is lucky, it is Inoue here because he bypass everyone in the rankings to face the champion as he move up in weight.
Or perhaps he was fortunate because he knew he could defeat Donaire, making it another easy path to claim a belt.
Yeah, I do agree, but we will have to see how he will do, we've seen great boxers moving up in weight and becoming so accustomed with the new weight like Manny Pacquiao.

He has no choice though but to get to Donaire. Same with Donaire, he was tearing the division and fighting young boxers and getting the belt. But in the end they have crossed path and as that Donaire was at a disadvantage because he lost his belt again. Nevertheless, he will have another chance to win it because he will be fighting for the belt, while Inoue will do it but in different weight class as he will challenge Fulton for his 2 belt.

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June 28, 2023, 09:16:16 AM
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He has no choice though but to get to Donaire. Same with Donaire, he was tearing the division and fighting young boxers and getting the belt. But in the end they have crossed path and as that Donaire was at a disadvantage because he lost his belt again. Nevertheless, he will have another chance to win it because he will be fighting for the belt, while Inoue will do it but in different weight class as he will challenge Fulton for his 2 belt.

What we witnessed in the fight was a real competition, the fight between the best versus the best. Hopefully, we will also see the same in a different division, where champions don't evade fights against opponents they think could defeat them just to maintain their undefeated record.

Donaire was a great example of a true champion, as he was well aware that Inoue could beat him again, and yet he still risked a unification match to test himself against Inoue once more.
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Donaire was a great example of a true champion, as he was well aware that Inoue could beat him again, and yet he still risked a unification match to test himself against Inoue once more.
Inoue is also a great example as he always seeks to fight the best opponents, which is why he became an undisputed champion in the bantamweight division. After winning, he wasted no time in moving up for the super bantamweight title match. If he succeeds again, it would be a tremendous accomplishment, and I am certain he will continue pushing his limits.

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