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June 18, 2023, 04:13:33 AM |
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The closest that we can see the odds in my opinion is Tapales, another good Filipino boxer. So the plan is as we have heard is that the winner of this fight, vs Marlon Tapales next for unification.
So if that happens then we can compare at least what will be the odds for Casimero. As if we are just changing the name of Tapales here. So before we talk about Casimero vs Inoue or Fulton, we will see first Tapales vs Inoue or Fulton and I think it will be a great fight although going to be very hard for the Filipino as he needed all the tools to beat either boxer.
You are right there mate, WBA has given the clearance to Tapales to fight whoever wins on the Inoue vs Fulton fight, they have not ordered Tapales to defend his belt via mandatory defense so this action is good for the Filipino pug. But for me, Casimero has the higher chance of defeating either Inoue or Fulton but he has to do his thing first (win every fight) before calling out whoever will be the unified champion in this division. For his part, Tapales is already a big winner by just fighting for the unified belt as i think this could be the biggest purse that he will receive in his boxing career, that's for sure. Yes, I also believed that Tapales really did a good job in his career, as opposed to Casimero who seems to have to reset everything right now at 122 lbs. So it's going to be very difficult for Marlon to overcome who ever he fights next for the unification fight. But who knows, he had a good year already, and upsets can happen anytime. And even if he loses that belt of his, he will still be in the rankings and maybe will be given another chance to fight for the belt or face tough opponents. So definitely there will be exposure for him. Just watching Inoue vs Payano riht now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxRLwFkrWgQ. That straight right hand though, it's crushing.
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June 18, 2023, 06:02:53 AM |
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The closest that we can see the odds in my opinion is Tapales, another good Filipino boxer. So the plan is as we have heard is that the winner of this fight, vs Marlon Tapales next for unification.
So if that happens then we can compare at least what will be the odds for Casimero. As if we are just changing the name of Tapales here. So before we talk about Casimero vs Inoue or Fulton, we will see first Tapales vs Inoue or Fulton and I think it will be a great fight although going to be very hard for the Filipino as he needed all the tools to beat either boxer.
You are right there mate, WBA has given the clearance to Tapales to fight whoever wins on the Inoue vs Fulton fight, they have not ordered Tapales to defend his belt via mandatory defense so this action is good for the Filipino pug. But for me, Casimero has the higher chance of defeating either Inoue or Fulton but he has to do his thing first (win every fight) before calling out whoever will be the unified champion in this division. For his part, Tapales is already a big winner by just fighting for the unified belt as i think this could be the biggest purse that he will receive in his boxing career, that's for sure. Yes, I also believed that Tapales really did a good job in his career, as opposed to Casimero who seems to have to reset everything right now at 122 lbs. So it's going to be very difficult for Marlon to overcome who ever he fights next for the unification fight. But who knows, he had a good year already, and upsets can happen anytime. And even if he loses that belt of his, he will still be in the rankings and maybe will be given another chance to fight for the belt or face tough opponents. So definitely there will be exposure for him. Just watching Inoue vs Payano riht now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxRLwFkrWgQ. That straight right hand though, it's crushing. Before Casimero's career took a downturn, he was already nearing his peak, and his success was more impressive than Tapales'. He had notable victories that contributed to his ongoing popularity, even though he is no longer a champion. Therefore, I believe we should trust him. As long as he maintains his patience and remains focused on winning his upcoming fights, there's a good chance he will have another opportunity to fight for a championship in the future.
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June 18, 2023, 12:25:43 PM |
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The closest that we can see the odds in my opinion is Tapales, another good Filipino boxer. So the plan is as we have heard is that the winner of this fight, vs Marlon Tapales next for unification.
So if that happens then we can compare at least what will be the odds for Casimero. As if we are just changing the name of Tapales here. So before we talk about Casimero vs Inoue or Fulton, we will see first Tapales vs Inoue or Fulton and I think it will be a great fight although going to be very hard for the Filipino as he needed all the tools to beat either boxer.
You are right there mate, WBA has given the clearance to Tapales to fight whoever wins on the Inoue vs Fulton fight, they have not ordered Tapales to defend his belt via mandatory defense so this action is good for the Filipino pug. But for me, Casimero has the higher chance of defeating either Inoue or Fulton but he has to do his thing first (win every fight) before calling out whoever will be the unified champion in this division. For his part, Tapales is already a big winner by just fighting for the unified belt as i think this could be the biggest purse that he will receive in his boxing career, that's for sure. Yes, I also believed that Tapales really did a good job in his career, as opposed to Casimero who seems to have to reset everything right now at 122 lbs. So it's going to be very difficult for Marlon to overcome who ever he fights next for the unification fight. But who knows, he had a good year already, and upsets can happen anytime. And even if he loses that belt of his, he will still be in the rankings and maybe will be given another chance to fight for the belt or face tough opponents. So definitely there will be exposure for him. Just watching Inoue vs Payano riht now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxRLwFkrWgQ. That straight right hand though, it's crushing. Before Casimero's career took a downturn, he was already nearing his peak, and his success was more impressive than Tapales'. He had notable victories that contributed to his ongoing popularity, even though he is no longer a champion. Therefore, I believe we should trust him. As long as he maintains his patience and remains focused on winning his upcoming fights, there's a good chance he will have another opportunity to fight for a championship in the future. And I think Casimero has learned his lessons from that huge mistake, and if I'm not mistaken, he has a whole different team now, taking care of him (he has a Japanese manager), and most importantly the people behind him, trainers, nutritionist and others. And we have seen that he has won 2 fights already, although the first win was questionable or at least very controversial. But we should wait though, we can't compare his path with his fellow Filipino Tapales. Marlon is enjoying more successes now as he is a 2 belt champion. Nevertheless, we know that Casimero is still very much on the hunt for a belt in the super bantam.
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June 18, 2023, 08:54:18 PM |
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The closest that we can see the odds in my opinion is Tapales, another good Filipino boxer. So the plan is as we have heard is that the winner of this fight, vs Marlon Tapales next for unification.
So if that happens then we can compare at least what will be the odds for Casimero. As if we are just changing the name of Tapales here. So before we talk about Casimero vs Inoue or Fulton, we will see first Tapales vs Inoue or Fulton and I think it will be a great fight although going to be very hard for the Filipino as he needed all the tools to beat either boxer.
You are right there mate, WBA has given the clearance to Tapales to fight whoever wins on the Inoue vs Fulton fight, they have not ordered Tapales to defend his belt via mandatory defense so this action is good for the Filipino pug. But for me, Casimero has the higher chance of defeating either Inoue or Fulton but he has to do his thing first (win every fight) before calling out whoever will be the unified champion in this division. For his part, Tapales is already a big winner by just fighting for the unified belt as i think this could be the biggest purse that he will receive in his boxing career, that's for sure. Yes, I also believed that Tapales really did a good job in his career, as opposed to Casimero who seems to have to reset everything right now at 122 lbs. So it's going to be very difficult for Marlon to overcome who ever he fights next for the unification fight. But who knows, he had a good year already, and upsets can happen anytime. And even if he loses that belt of his, he will still be in the rankings and maybe will be given another chance to fight for the belt or face tough opponents. So definitely there will be exposure for him. Just watching Inoue vs Payano riht now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxRLwFkrWgQ. That straight right hand though, it's crushing. Before Casimero's career took a downturn, he was already nearing his peak, and his success was more impressive than Tapales'. He had notable victories that contributed to his ongoing popularity, even though he is no longer a champion. Therefore, I believe we should trust him. As long as he maintains his patience and remains focused on winning his upcoming fights, there's a good chance he will have another opportunity to fight for a championship in the future. And I think Casimero has learned his lessons from that huge mistake, and if I'm not mistaken, he has a whole different team now, taking care of him (he has a Japanese manager), and most importantly the people behind him, trainers, nutritionist and others. And we have seen that he has won 2 fights already, although the first win was questionable or at least very controversial. But we should wait though, we can't compare his path with his fellow Filipino Tapales. Marlon is enjoying more successes now as he is a 2 belt champion. Nevertheless, we know that Casimero is still very much on the hunt for a belt in the super bantam. It's definitely the latter and not the questionable win because he totally deserved that win, it's just that his opponent, Ryo Akaho, faked everything and that the back of his head is hurting after receiving a punch from Casimero. Fortunately, IIRC, Casimero and his team did reviewed it together with the rest of KBM and found out that Akaho was just a good actor and was afraid to take the defeat into his career. Gladly, all that is behind now and Casimero is steadily winning and upping his ranking.
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June 19, 2023, 07:26:41 AM |
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It's definitely the latter and not the questionable win because he totally deserved that win, it's just that his opponent, Ryo Akaho, faked everything and that the back of his head is hurting after receiving a punch from Casimero. Fortunately, IIRC, Casimero and his team did reviewed it together with the rest of KBM and found out that Akaho was just a good actor and was afraid to take the defeat into his career. Gladly, all that is behind now and Casimero is steadily winning and upping his ranking.
Yeah, after that review the organization gives credit to Casimero and his camp. With that good achievement in this new division, he's climbing a little and with more to come the chance of making his way as a good contender for the belt, maybe good timing if Inoue will win against Fulton and decide to stay, though still depends from how the camps will negotiate and how the deal will be closed.
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June 19, 2023, 10:25:24 AM |
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It's definitely the latter and not the questionable win because he totally deserved that win, it's just that his opponent, Ryo Akaho, faked everything and that the back of his head is hurting after receiving a punch from Casimero. Fortunately, IIRC, Casimero and his team did reviewed it together with the rest of KBM and found out that Akaho was just a good actor and was afraid to take the defeat into his career. Gladly, all that is behind now and Casimero is steadily winning and upping his ranking.
Yeah, after that review the organization gives credit to Casimero and his camp. With that good achievement in this new division, he's climbing a little and with more to come the chance of making his way as a good contender for the belt, maybe good timing if Inoue will win against Fulton and decide to stay, though still depends from how the camps will negotiate and how the deal will be closed. There is a strong likelihood that Inoue will stay in the division for a while if he becomes a champion. As long as Casimero remains the top contender, there is a good chance that the fight between them could materialize. The key factors that may come into play are the negotiation process and Inoue's genuine willingness to face Casimero. A potential matchup between them would finally put an end to the speculations surrounding Casimero and Inoue. I am eagerly anticipating the Fulton vs Inoue fight, as its outcome, hopefully favoring Inoue, could potentially pave the way for Casimero to challenge him.
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June 20, 2023, 10:09:02 AM |
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There is a strong likelihood that Inoue will stay in the division for a while if he becomes a champion. As long as Casimero remains the top contender, there is a good chance that the fight between them could materialize. The key factors that may come into play are the negotiation process and Inoue's genuine willingness to face Casimero. A potential matchup between them would finally put an end to the speculations surrounding Casimero and Inoue. I am eagerly anticipating the Fulton vs Inoue fight, as its outcome, hopefully favoring Inoue, could potentially pave the way for Casimero to challenge him.
That's a high possibility that Inoue would stay in this weight category as he has yet to prove that he can bring his power to a higher division. If he wins (Inoue) then a unification fight with Tapales is the biggest for this division to happen thus far and a fight with Casimero will only materialize if the latter will keep on winning and become a mandatory challenger as calling out Inoue without a belt or something might not interest the Japanese Monster to fight him as he has nothing to gain in fighting Quadro Alas.
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June 20, 2023, 11:11:56 AM |
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There is a strong likelihood that Inoue will stay in the division for a while if he becomes a champion. As long as Casimero remains the top contender, there is a good chance that the fight between them could materialize. The key factors that may come into play are the negotiation process and Inoue's genuine willingness to face Casimero. A potential matchup between them would finally put an end to the speculations surrounding Casimero and Inoue. I am eagerly anticipating the Fulton vs Inoue fight, as its outcome, hopefully favoring Inoue, could potentially pave the way for Casimero to challenge him.
That's a high possibility that Inoue would stay in this weight category as he has yet to prove that he can bring his power to a higher division. If he wins (Inoue) then a unification fight with Tapales is the biggest for this division to happen thus far and a fight with Casimero will only materialize if the latter will keep on winning and become a mandatory challenger as calling out Inoue without a belt or something might not interest the Japanese Monster to fight him as he has nothing to gain in fighting Quadro Alas. Yes, and it will be far the quickest road to unify all the 4 belts in the modern era and he could make another history. This is just his first fight at super bantamweight and if ever he wins he will go for the unification with Tapales at second fight. Then it's going to be difficult to retain all the belts, because each body will have it's mandatory fight so going to be hard which one is he going to chose and which belt he will vacant so that other fighters like Casimero can fight over it.
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June 21, 2023, 12:45:28 PM |
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There is a strong likelihood that Inoue will stay in the division for a while if he becomes a champion. As long as Casimero remains the top contender, there is a good chance that the fight between them could materialize. The key factors that may come into play are the negotiation process and Inoue's genuine willingness to face Casimero. A potential matchup between them would finally put an end to the speculations surrounding Casimero and Inoue. I am eagerly anticipating the Fulton vs Inoue fight, as its outcome, hopefully favoring Inoue, could potentially pave the way for Casimero to challenge him.
That's a high possibility that Inoue would stay in this weight category as he has yet to prove that he can bring his power to a higher division. If he wins (Inoue) then a unification fight with Tapales is the biggest for this division to happen thus far and a fight with Casimero will only materialize if the latter will keep on winning and become a mandatory challenger as calling out Inoue without a belt or something might not interest the Japanese Monster to fight him as he has nothing to gain in fighting Quadro Alas. Yes, and it will be far the quickest road to unify all the 4 belts in the modern era and he could make another history. This is just his first fight at super bantamweight and if ever he wins he will go for the unification with Tapales at second fight. Then it's going to be difficult to retain all the belts, because each body will have it's mandatory fight so going to be hard which one is he going to chose and which belt he will vacant so that other fighters like Casimero can fight over it. If Inoue is successful in pursuing a unification fight and becoming the undisputed champion in this division, then Casimero would have no chance of fighting him anymore. Similar to what happened in the Bantamweight division, after becoming an undisputed champion, Inoue decided to move up and vacate all the belts. Casimero might become a champion, but only after Inoue vacates the title, which would leave him still chasing Inoue as he would not get an opportunity if Inoue decides to move up once again.
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June 21, 2023, 01:14:48 PM |
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My reasoning might be speculative but it might help anyone who is looking to bet on this game. Some of you might question why Naoya Inoue challenged Stephen Fulton. The reason is simple, he is exceptionally talented, and with his accuracy to punch hard, he is worthy to challenge Stephen Fulton. Stephen Fulton has an impressive boxing record, he has shown the world his impressive defensive skills, and impressive footwork but lacks attacking abilities as per my understanding. Overall this would be an interesting match to watch and my research says that Naoya Inoue is a little better than Stephen Fulton. If betting is my primary objective, then I would bet on Naoya Inoue.
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June 21, 2023, 06:06:16 PM |
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There is a strong likelihood that Inoue will stay in the division for a while if he becomes a champion. As long as Casimero remains the top contender, there is a good chance that the fight between them could materialize. The key factors that may come into play are the negotiation process and Inoue's genuine willingness to face Casimero. A potential matchup between them would finally put an end to the speculations surrounding Casimero and Inoue. I am eagerly anticipating the Fulton vs Inoue fight, as its outcome, hopefully favoring Inoue, could potentially pave the way for Casimero to challenge him.
That's a high possibility that Inoue would stay in this weight category as he has yet to prove that he can bring his power to a higher division. If he wins (Inoue) then a unification fight with Tapales is the biggest for this division to happen thus far and a fight with Casimero will only materialize if the latter will keep on winning and become a mandatory challenger as calling out Inoue without a belt or something might not interest the Japanese Monster to fight him as he has nothing to gain in fighting Quadro Alas. Yes, and it will be far the quickest road to unify all the 4 belts in the modern era and he could make another history. This is just his first fight at super bantamweight and if ever he wins he will go for the unification with Tapales at second fight. Then it's going to be difficult to retain all the belts, because each body will have it's mandatory fight so going to be hard which one is he going to chose and which belt he will vacant so that other fighters like Casimero can fight over it. If Inoue is successful in pursuing a unification fight and becoming the undisputed champion in this division, then Casimero would have no chance of fighting him anymore. Similar to what happened in the Bantamweight division, after becoming an undisputed champion, Inoue decided to move up and vacate all the belts. Casimero might become a champion, but only after Inoue vacates the title, which would leave him still chasing Inoue as he would not get an opportunity if Inoue decides to move up once again. That's something that will avoid Casimero to have that chance again, as Inoue might try to climb up again after winning or after unifying all the belts. Unless Casimero will have that chance fighting Tapales and snatch the belt, that might be his chance if Inoue will push and try to unify all the belts in 122lbs the same way he did from his previous division. All will be on Inoue's decision making and not to forget depends also on what will be the outcome of this fight.
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There is a strong likelihood that Inoue will stay in the division for a while if he becomes a champion. As long as Casimero remains the top contender, there is a good chance that the fight between them could materialize. The key factors that may come into play are the negotiation process and Inoue's genuine willingness to face Casimero. A potential matchup between them would finally put an end to the speculations surrounding Casimero and Inoue. I am eagerly anticipating the Fulton vs Inoue fight, as its outcome, hopefully favoring Inoue, could potentially pave the way for Casimero to challenge him.
That's a high possibility that Inoue would stay in this weight category as he has yet to prove that he can bring his power to a higher division. If he wins (Inoue) then a unification fight with Tapales is the biggest for this division to happen thus far and a fight with Casimero will only materialize if the latter will keep on winning and become a mandatory challenger as calling out Inoue without a belt or something might not interest the Japanese Monster to fight him as he has nothing to gain in fighting Quadro Alas. Yes, and it will be far the quickest road to unify all the 4 belts in the modern era and he could make another history. This is just his first fight at super bantamweight and if ever he wins he will go for the unification with Tapales at second fight. Then it's going to be difficult to retain all the belts, because each body will have it's mandatory fight so going to be hard which one is he going to chose and which belt he will vacant so that other fighters like Casimero can fight over it. If Inoue is successful in pursuing a unification fight and becoming the undisputed champion in this division, then Casimero would have no chance of fighting him anymore. Similar to what happened in the Bantamweight division, after becoming an undisputed champion, Inoue decided to move up and vacate all the belts. Casimero might become a champion, but only after Inoue vacates the title, which would leave him still chasing Inoue as he would not get an opportunity if Inoue decides to move up once again. That's something that will avoid Casimero to have that chance again, as Inoue might try to climb up again after winning or after unifying all the belts. Unless Casimero will have that chance fighting Tapales and snatch the belt, that might be his chance if Inoue will push and try to unify all the belts in 122lbs the same way he did from his previous division. All will be on Inoue's decision making and not to forget depends also on what will be the outcome of this fight. It's a never-ending chase for Casimero, it does sound like Inoue is hiding from him. The Japanese have better built with precision in knocking opponents, is there politics between them that prevents this fight from happening? Inoue can certainly KO the guy's ass for good if he really wants to. There is no negotiation yet so far, it's a race against time for Casimero however, he is not getting younger. If they wait til Casimero turned 40 before they approve this fight, it will just confirm Inoue's team is ducking Casimero.
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It's a never-ending chase for Casimero, it does sound like Inoue is hiding from him. The Japanese have better built with precision in knocking opponents, is there politics between them that prevents this fight from happening?
Inoue can certainly KO the guy's ass for good if he really wants to. There is no negotiation yet so far, it's a race against time for Casimero however, he is not getting younger. If they wait til Casimero turned 40 before they approve this fight, it will just confirm Inoue's team is ducking Casimero.
Dont know on why people is really that aiming or liking for Inoue on fighting Casimero? If the organization doesnt allow nor not make it happen then there's no point on keeps on discussing about a potential fight. Just let them be on what are the paths that they would be taking.If ever that Inoue would succeed on dominating this new upcoming weight division then he would continue to go with higher division and if ever Casimero wont be able to caught up then for sure he would be left behind. There's no way that this fight would really be happening in the first place.
Going back against Fulton then the day is getting nearer on which it is really that a month for this fight to happen and this is something interesting to look on.Hope there would be no other accidents or injuries on which makes this fight bit more delayed.
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It's definitely the latter and not the questionable win because he totally deserved that win, it's just that his opponent, Ryo Akaho, faked everything and that the back of his head is hurting after receiving a punch from Casimero. Fortunately, IIRC, Casimero and his team did reviewed it together with the rest of KBM and found out that Akaho was just a good actor and was afraid to take the defeat into his career. Gladly, all that is behind now and Casimero is steadily winning and upping his ranking.
Yeah, after that review the organization gives credit to Casimero and his camp. With that good achievement in this new division, he's climbing a little and with more to come the chance of making his way as a good contender for the belt, maybe good timing if Inoue will win against Fulton and decide to stay, though still depends from how the camps will negotiate and how the deal will be closed. There is a strong likelihood that Inoue will stay in the division for a while if he becomes a champion. As long as Casimero remains the top contender, there is a good chance that the fight between them could materialize. The key factors that may come into play are the negotiation process and Inoue's genuine willingness to face Casimero. A potential matchup between them would finally put an end to the speculations surrounding Casimero and Inoue. I am eagerly anticipating the Fulton vs Inoue fight, as its outcome, hopefully favoring Inoue, could potentially pave the way for Casimero to challenge him. Like what I've mentioned, negotiations will be the turning factors to make this fight to happen. With both camps' willingness, it's not by far that it will take place. As long as Casimero is moving forward if he continues to get a fight, that will give him a good ranking position after a win. Inoue might stay and will give him the fight to determine who's the better fighter between them.
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If they wait til Casimero turned 40 before they approve this fight, it will just confirm Inoue's team is ducking Casimero. Simple as it is, Casimero needs to climb rank to be a contender and be recognized. For now, why the hell Inoue should fight or even start a negotiation with Casimero? Building legacy is associated with the business. Especially if Inoue will won this match against Fulton, Casimero really needs to wait for a long as honestly, Casimero's camp even has difficulties settling a fight against top rank as no bearing if they will fight Quadro Alas for now e.g when their attempt to settle a deal with Luis Nery before failed, etc. Regardless of Casimero's age, it will only be confirmed if Inoue's camp is ducking Casimero if the latter already established and achieved being a top contender but still didn't get the chance of fighting Inoue. But more importantly, that's not what matters for now. There are lots of "what if" that can happen while Casimero is waiting for his chance to fight Inoue.
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June 22, 2023, 01:11:41 AM |
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There is a strong likelihood that Inoue will stay in the division for a while if he becomes a champion. As long as Casimero remains the top contender, there is a good chance that the fight between them could materialize. The key factors that may come into play are the negotiation process and Inoue's genuine willingness to face Casimero. A potential matchup between them would finally put an end to the speculations surrounding Casimero and Inoue. I am eagerly anticipating the Fulton vs Inoue fight, as its outcome, hopefully favoring Inoue, could potentially pave the way for Casimero to challenge him.
That's a high possibility that Inoue would stay in this weight category as he has yet to prove that he can bring his power to a higher division. If he wins (Inoue) then a unification fight with Tapales is the biggest for this division to happen thus far and a fight with Casimero will only materialize if the latter will keep on winning and become a mandatory challenger as calling out Inoue without a belt or something might not interest the Japanese Monster to fight him as he has nothing to gain in fighting Quadro Alas. Yes, and it will be far the quickest road to unify all the 4 belts in the modern era and he could make another history. This is just his first fight at super bantamweight and if ever he wins he will go for the unification with Tapales at second fight. Then it's going to be difficult to retain all the belts, because each body will have it's mandatory fight so going to be hard which one is he going to chose and which belt he will vacant so that other fighters like Casimero can fight over it. If Inoue is successful in pursuing a unification fight and becoming the undisputed champion in this division, then Casimero would have no chance of fighting him anymore. Similar to what happened in the Bantamweight division, after becoming an undisputed champion, Inoue decided to move up and vacate all the belts. Casimero might become a champion, but only after Inoue vacates the title, which would leave him still chasing Inoue as he would not get an opportunity if Inoue decides to move up once again. That's something that will avoid Casimero to have that chance again, as Inoue might try to climb up again after winning or after unifying all the belts. Unless Casimero will have that chance fighting Tapales and snatch the belt, that might be his chance if Inoue will push and try to unify all the belts in 122lbs the same way he did from his previous division. All will be on Inoue's decision making and not to forget depends also on what will be the outcome of this fight. It's a never-ending chase for Casimero, it does sound like Inoue is hiding from him. The Japanese have better built with precision in knocking opponents, is there politics between them that prevents this fight from happening? Inoue can certainly KO the guy's ass for good if he really wants to. There is no negotiation yet so far, it's a race against time for Casimero however, he is not getting younger. If they wait til Casimero turned 40 before they approve this fight, it will just confirm Inoue's team is ducking Casimero. And by now, it's Casimero that is chasing Inoue, not the other way around. But before that, they seems to be on a collision course and there is a big possibility of their fight if not for Casimero having his weight issues. That's the thing with Casimero now, he is running out of time. He might have hit his prime years for all know. The only good thing is that he hasn't taken much damage though in his last 2 fights so he looks refresh. But maybe if he fought a rank contender it might be a different story for him.
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The closest that we can see the odds in my opinion is Tapales, another good Filipino boxer. So the plan is as we have heard is that the winner of this fight, vs Marlon Tapales next for unification.
So if that happens then we can compare at least what will be the odds for Casimero. As if we are just changing the name of Tapales here. So before we talk about Casimero vs Inoue or Fulton, we will see first Tapales vs Inoue or Fulton and I think it will be a great fight although going to be very hard for the Filipino as he needed all the tools to beat either boxer.
You are right there mate, WBA has given the clearance to Tapales to fight whoever wins on the Inoue vs Fulton fight, they have not ordered Tapales to defend his belt via mandatory defense so this action is good for the Filipino pug. But for me, Casimero has the higher chance of defeating either Inoue or Fulton but he has to do his thing first (win every fight) before calling out whoever will be the unified champion in this division. For his part, Tapales is already a big winner by just fighting for the unified belt as i think this could be the biggest purse that he will receive in his boxing career, that's for sure. Yes, I also believed that Tapales really did a good job in his career, as opposed to Casimero who seems to have to reset everything right now at 122 lbs. So it's going to be very difficult for Marlon to overcome who ever he fights next for the unification fight. But who knows, he had a good year already, and upsets can happen anytime. And even if he loses that belt of his, he will still be in the rankings and maybe will be given another chance to fight for the belt or face tough opponents. So definitely there will be exposure for him. Just watching Inoue vs Payano riht now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxRLwFkrWgQ. That straight right hand though, it's crushing. Before Casimero's career took a downturn, he was already nearing his peak, and his success was more impressive than Tapales'. He had notable victories that contributed to his ongoing popularity, even though he is no longer a champion. Therefore, I believe we should trust him. As long as he maintains his patience and remains focused on winning his upcoming fights, there's a good chance he will have another opportunity to fight for a championship in the future. My faith towards Casimero is still there and I haven't lost it even though he met a downfall at 118. The fact that I still see him determined to be a champion again at 122 and making successful fights made my support towards him to grow stronger, I know that he really wanted to fight Inoue since bantamweight days but this time, I think it's already a different situation knowing how Inoue evolved throughout the past years. Casimero could use some more experience though before he will fight Inoue.
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My faith towards Casimero is still there and I haven't lost it even though he met a downfall at 118. The fact that I still see him determined to be a champion again at 122 and making successful fights made my support towards him to grow stronger, I know that he really wanted to fight Inoue since bantamweight days but this time, I think it's already a different situation knowing how Inoue evolved throughout the past years. Casimero could use some more experience though before he will fight Inoue.
Casimero was struggled when he fought Guillermo Rigondeaux, so it mean he's not always dominating every boxers even though he have won via KO on his previous several matches. If Casimero fight with either Inoue or Fulton, there's a high chance if he might lose. This fight will be a proof if Inoue is good or not, if he can win, then he can challenge Tapales and I think Inoue should able to beat Tapales.
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My reasoning might be speculative but it might help anyone who is looking to bet on this game. Some of you might question why Naoya Inoue challenged Stephen Fulton. The reason is simple, he is exceptionally talented, and with his accuracy to punch hard, he is worthy to challenge Stephen Fulton. Stephen Fulton has an impressive boxing record, he has shown the world his impressive defensive skills, and impressive footwork but lacks attacking abilities as per my understanding. Overall this would be an interesting match to watch and my research says that Naoya Inoue is a little better than Stephen Fulton. If betting is my primary objective, then I would bet on Naoya Inoue.
Both fighters wanted legacy fights hence they want to face each other. Fulton has the chance to become a 2 division champion by rematching Figueroa at 126 but he opted to face Inoue the current pound-for-pound # 1 or #2. This fight is also more beneficial financially for Fulton and instead of moving up, there is a chance for him to become undisputed. Inoue on the other hand is not just chasing for legacy but historic records as well. Inoue used to be the quickest Japanese to become a world champion only in his 6th pro fight. He became a 2 division champion in his 8th professional fight and I believe this is a world record. If Crawford cannot win against Spence next month then Inoue will also have the chance to become the first 2-division undisputed champion in the 4 belt era.
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My reasoning might be speculative but it might help anyone who is looking to bet on this game. Some of you might question why Naoya Inoue challenged Stephen Fulton. The reason is simple, he is exceptionally talented, and with his accuracy to punch hard, he is worthy to challenge Stephen Fulton. Stephen Fulton has an impressive boxing record, he has shown the world his impressive defensive skills, and impressive footwork but lacks attacking abilities as per my understanding. Overall this would be an interesting match to watch and my research says that Naoya Inoue is a little better than Stephen Fulton. If betting is my primary objective, then I would bet on Naoya Inoue.
It's not a question why Inoue challenged Fulton, definitely he has the talent, it's the question on whether he can do it a a new weight class wherein he doesn't have the experience and we don't know if he can bring his power to this level. Stephen Fulton has face a lot of great boxers as 122 lbs, for sure this could be his toughest test to date. But he is also confident that he can beat and take that 0 from Inoue. And another factor is that Fulton is a slick black fighter and it seems that Inoue hasn't fought this kind of boxer. All the boxer he fought wants to go toe to toe and not using movement at all.
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