⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐

[arallmuus]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14aA_BAAqK-T-YDo8hiWzTK1YfzrNauqv4AxQs-x18ps/edit#gid=1676475336

You can see from the tables that next season fees are as follows:
Division 1 - 2 mBTC
Division 2 - 1 mBTC
Division 3 - free

All fees will be auto taken from your rewards. We presume that everyone continues to play. Again, if you want out, this is the time to tell us. Also if you know somebody new that is interested, this is the week for him to sign up. If you have been disqualified and want back in let us know(there will be some sort of evil fee implemented).

I checked mine, all good for now. So I need to win the last decided round to get 1.5 mbtc to pay for that fees huh, sounds about right for me

Since there are now fees applied on division 2, I kinda wonder what would you guys do to fill in the spot in division 2 in case some people want to quit on the next season? I reckon there wont be issue on the current participant on division 2 because they will be paying fees from their reward but what if 2 new promoted players from division 3b could choose to not participate next season?

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[Harkorede]

@Trofo @cryptofrka all good with the addy, however, I'm also 1 mBTC indebted to the relegated Team cryptofrka don't forget to deduct from the final rewards, I'd like him to get a good goalkeeper for Division 2, he'll be needing it  

Harko and casper are giants. They improved on last season's performances, staying near the top but credit to mv1986 and leea-1334. Those two went from Div3 (hard-fought playoffs, by the way) to Div2 (top 2, by the way) to Div1 and immediately staked their claim to the top half of Div1. That's three seasons of consistency, and I think I understand now who the cream really are. Quiet assassins...

I think jeremypwr would be back stronger, he's got a whole lot to do and that's the only thing I could make of his performance of last season compared to this, na, he's fashow better than that!


As for me, I think I could have done better too, but one too many real life crises here and there be getting to me and in my way to be honest, so to a better year ahead, it's all or nothing as I'll be coming with full freaking force!


The bigger props should got vd309, casperBGD, leea-1334, mitchr4 they were a force to reckon with for the season, and vd309 was the most consistent almost running away with the prize since mid-season, if I'm not mistaken.

[casperBGD]

Here is a link to rewards distribution table. This is alpha version and main things you guys need to do is check your BTC addresses and let us know if you want it changed.
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up to when we can change our BTC address?
I will probably do it, but need few days to figure out where to send reward

again, thanks to everyone involved for competing, congrats to all winners, promotions, and best of luck to all relegated teams, especially cryptofrka, next season to get back into upper range
good luck to LTU_btc in relegation play-off

onwards to season 4

[Igebotz]

From next season we will again turn the screw on those that are not submitting. It is not official yet but it will probably look something like this:
1 miss - you loose 20% of the reward
2 misses - you loose 50% of the reward
3 misses - disqualification and no reward

love that some of my recommendations/suggestions saw the light of day, from penalties for late submissions to now entrance fees for Division 2.  I'm not taking all the credit; I believe the Cro2 deserves more for considering some of our suggestions to improve the pool each season. The new division 2 fee is  the season's biggest achievement, adding 16mbtc to the prize pool. The higher the reward, the more competitive and appealing it gets. We have to keep pushing till we're able to raise 50% of the entire prize pool from our pockets every season. Everyone should eat good.

Now, back to the new late submission penalty rules - they seem a little grave to me, as I believe we are still in the early stages of implementing anything like this.

Does this means that if one misses two GWs, he loses 8 points and -50%? This might potentially kill motivation. Imo

[execijutiere]

Again, if you want out, this is the time to tell us.

It was a very nice experience for me but I would like to inform you that I will not be able to continue this adventure any longer. Thanks to everyone who contributed, it was a really enjoyable tournament.I think I won't have time for this in the new season and I don't want to leave a bad image, so I decided to leave and I hope you guys are okay with that.I wish everyone success in the next season.I hope I will have the opportunity to participate again in the future

[Trofo]

Again, if you want out, this is the time to tell us.

It was a very nice experience for me but I would like to inform you that I will not be able to continue this adventure any longer. Thanks to everyone who contributed, it was a really enjoyable tournament.I think I won't have time for this in the new season and I don't want to leave a bad image, so I decided to leave and I hope you guys are okay with that.I wish everyone success in the next season.I hope I will have the opportunity to participate again in the future

Thanks for informing us, much better then to drop off during the season. If you decide to join at later date we will be happy to accept you again for aome future season.

up to when we can change our BTC address?
I will probably do it, but need few days to figure out where to send reward

You have until end of this round for sure, probably even until cup finishes.

[Slissy]

@buwaytress Do we have confirmation of the winner of the 2mbtc side bet that we had before the season?😁

Jesus, please remind me what I lost this time? Haha, and DM me an address!

P.S. Any of you know I owe money, please don't be shy. I can't keep track. Trofo or cryptofrka -- if it's even enough, can I request 2 mbtc be taken out of my prize and directed to Slissy instead? #nopoor

Is there anyone in division 1 who wants to take a 5 mbtc side bet (Or smaller amount) on who gets the most correct answers during the season? (i got 55 correct answers in season 2) I have faith in a strong season 3 😁 I thought so about season 2 too aslo😂😁

I want to say yes, but for my own sake, 2mbtc? Just H2H, and we ask for it to be recorded in sheet? Or will you remind me haha

Just yesterday morning I spent 2 hours on the phone arguing about a charge of less than $7 (I got it back) and I realise these days I'm steadily playing with a lot as have not adjust BTC values down in a while. To be fair 2 or 5 makes no difference season-long BUT I suspect I have other sidebets waiting...

Damn! you crushed everyone in season 2 with 64 correct answers 😁 But Let's take a side bet of 2 mbtc! I'm in on everything, whatever suits you best I'm in 😁

It's slightly inaccurate to count GA...  many of my points came from H2H direct or indirect -- I had a lot of luck. See my Season 1 for a better reflection of my... prowess haha. It's on, let's do it!

Do you remember it now? I was greedy who wanted to bet 5 mbtc hahaha😂😂

[cryptofrka]

Since there are now fees applied on division 2, I kinda wonder what would you guys do to fill in the spot in division 2 in case some people want to quit on the next season? I reckon there wont be issue on the current participant on division 2 because they will be paying fees from their reward but what if 2 new promoted players from division 3b could choose to not participate next season?

We feel everybody will want to pay. If not, the next one in line by ranking gets the opportunity.

up to when we can change our BTC address?

The sooner the better, we want to pay when the tx fees are cheap - this tx can potentially be really expensive.
The deadline for everyone is by the end of this week, so as soon as we know the playoffs spots we can pay out.

Ideally we'll wait for the Cup finals to finish and pay in 1 tx, but if we catch a time with really low fees we'd like to pay the big chunk of the tx then.

Now, back to the new late submission penalty rules - they seem a little grave to me, as I believe we are still in the early stages of implementing anything like this.

Does this means that if one misses two GWs, he loses 8 points and -50%? This might potentially kill motivation. Imo

Nope, not submitting still carries the same penalties - 3-0 for the opponent and -1 total point.
The additional penalty is if you win 5mbtc at the end of the season, if you failed to submit on 1 occasion you win 4mBTC and 1mbtc gets deducted and if you fail to submit 2 times you win 2,5 mbtc and 2,5 mbtc get deducted.

[Harkorede]

PS: I still think the default 3 points to opponent of whoever fails to submit their answers is fair, and the additional -1 point is very cool, but 3-0 scoreline still feel a bit much in my opinion as we all saw how much the goal difference mattered towards the end, and it's almost out of ordinary to defeat your opponent by 3 points margin, more so given the number of matches per season, and goal difference being the first metric for ranking for equal points makes it quite unbalanced imo, perhaps when points are tied H2H record should be the first metric for the decider, I mean that way it becomes fairer and at least first take a some default 3-0 scoreline that some might have been lucky enough to get more than once or twice, H2H in this light pitch them against their direct contenders first.

[Chi20]

Here is a link to rewards distribution table. This is alpha version and main things you guys need to do is check your BTC addresses and let us know if you want it changed. If it is good no need to tell us. Those are addresses you signed up with in dedicated thread but double check to be certain. Once payments are out there is no going back.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14aA_BAAqK-T-YDo8hiWzTK1YfzrNauqv4AxQs-x18ps/edit#gid=1676475336

I don't want mine sent to my initial address as I don't have access to it now but I don't wanna change it neither. Can I pin you the address it should be sent to?

[notblox1]

From next season we will again turn the screw on those that are not submitting. It is not official yet but it will probably look something like this:
1 miss - you loose 20% of the reward
2 misses - you loose 50% of the reward
3 misses - disqualification and no reward

Everyone better prepare your alarm reminders for next season!
BSFL IRS mafia is not joking in Season 4.
I would prefer to have one option to delay match for each player to different date if there are good reasons to do that.

Few things to add

Maybe you should have ready option for everyone to join the BSFL league and quickly replace any team that drops out, but for higher fees.

[Strongkored]

Here is a link to rewards distribution table. This is alpha version and main things you guys need to do is check your BTC addresses and let us know if you want it changed. If it is good no need to tell us. Those are addresses you signed up with in dedicated thread but double check to be certain. Once payments are out there is no going back.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14aA_BAAqK-T-YDo8hiWzTK1YfzrNauqv4AxQs-x18ps/edit#gid=1676475336

I checked my BTC address in spreadsheets and I don't remember using that address, so I want to change it to what was mentioned in the thread when signed up https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438072.msg61740116#msg61740116
I re-quoted the BTC address below

bc1q42c3epj0pk4p3qkf85lyl40e5qjeu5lrv4zfzx

Thank you to Trofo, cryptofrka and also Sportsbet who have worked hard and become sponsors for this competition, hopefully the fourth season will be more competitive, especially with the implementation of fees for division 2 so that everyone will try their best.

[Trofo]

I would prefer to have one option to delay match for each player to different date if there are good reasons to do that.

It will never be in the rules but if someone has something that really stops him from submitting, that person can always contact us through PM and we will judge it on case to case basis.

For instance we are not gonna give you a reschedule for holidays since we feel you can find a 10 minute slot to answer questions but if you have a scheduled heart surgery or something we will of course do anything possible to help out.

Key thing is that people have to contact us well before the deadline. After the deadline has passed we accept no excuses, no matter how good they are.

I checked my BTC address in spreadsheets and I don't remember using that address, so I want to change it to what was mentioned in the thread when signed up https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438072.msg61740116#msg61740116
I re-quoted the BTC address below

bc1q42c3epj0pk4p3qkf85lyl40e5qjeu5lrv4zfzx

Those were actually addresses we used to pay out season 2 and then I filled the missing ones with data from sign up thread. So either you told me last time to use that one or I messed up. Nevermind, changed to this one in my local copy.

[famososMuertos]

CRO2
Well, according to post #6997, payment for permanence in a supposed expansion of leagues, (something was mentioned at some point; I think it was once said 20 per league), zero.

Someone already jumped ship, so if someone promoted to div2 leaves the BSFL, I don't know if I have the option, but they sign me up.
If someone who ascends to Div 1 does not want it (laughs, here, but! you never know) because in the hierarchy I am at the bottom, let me know, I pay the 2 mbtc + the corresponding bribes.

This is a serious statement, take it as such, except for bribes.

Fmbet,

[slaman29]

Hey guys, I couldn't find the link to make the payment, I'm one of the lucky few who owes money, but at least I got my payment of 2mbtc back in the form of the $100 freebet lol. IIRC this is 2 seasons in a row my prize = fee, and that shows anyone who is watching and reading, that you just can't lose playing this league properly. Worse case is, you get your money back

Really really hoping to see new people and a full league division 3 playing, hello division 2, did you miss me?

I 100% support decision for penalties skipping submissions by the way, if you have good reason for not playing, Cro2 accepts bribes, so all good

[cryptofrka]

PS: I still think the default 3 points to opponent of whoever fails to submit their answers is fair, and the additional -1 point is very cool, but 3-0 scoreline still feel a bit much in my opinion as we all saw how much the goal difference mattered towards the end, and it's almost out of ordinary to defeat your opponent by 3 points margin, more so given the number of matches per season, and goal difference being the first metric for ranking for equal points makes it quite unbalanced imo, perhaps when points are tied H2H record should be the first metric for the decider, I mean that way it becomes fairer and at least first take a some default 3-0 scoreline that some might have been lucky enough to get more than once or twice, H2H in this light pitch them against their direct contenders first.

To be honest, this makes a lot of sense and is something to consider.
Initially we wanted to make it as close as possible to real football, but there it does not happen that the team wins 2 games in a season like this.

The 3-0 works both ways - if we lower it, the punishment for the team that failed to submit becomes less severe.
The goal difference is the standard in most leagues, so again - the closest to the real football situation.

I'll speak to Trofo about this, I'm tagging him here as well.
We do feel that the punishment now is even more severe for those not submitting and we hope it won't happen in the first 2 Divisions at all.

I think we'll monitor it in s04 and leave it as it is but yeah - if not submitting remains a thing then we'll surely revise it for the next season.

I would prefer to have one option to delay match for each player to different date if there are good reasons to do that.

Not a fan of this, the tables are kinda skewed then and it leads to potential calculations later on.
Trofo already explained it in more detail a few posts above.

Maybe you should have ready option for everyone to join the BSFL league and quickly replace any team that drops out, but for higher fees.

Current teams will always be given priority. You see that even Hhampuz has to do everything by the book

CRO2
Well, according to post #6997, payment for permanence in a supposed expansion of leagues, (something was mentioned at some point; I think it was once said 20 per league), zero.

Someone already jumped ship, so if someone promoted to div2 leaves the BSFL, I don't know if I have the option, but they sign me up.

If someone leaves Div2, the first one with an option to enter it would be the playoff loser. You'd be 2nd in line.
Same way for Div1.

[Igebotz]

Now, back to the new late submission penalty rules - they seem a little grave to me, as I believe we are still in the early stages of implementing anything like this.

Does this means that if one misses two GWs, he loses 8 points and -50%? This might potentially kill motivation. Imo

Nope, not submitting still carries the same penalties - 3-0 for the opponent and -1 total point.
The additional penalty is if you win 5mbtc at the end of the season, if you failed to submit on 1 occasion you win 4mBTC and 1mbtc gets deducted and if you fail to submit 2 times you win 2,5 mbtc and 2,5 mbtc get deducted.

Okay, I'm not opposed to implementing anything like this, but I don't believe the reward has risen to the point where one-time penalties result in massive 1mBtc losses. What about those who end the season with merely a free bet position? Are you going to auto-deduct from his SB account?

This will only make sense if the deducted funds are distributed to the clubs whose opponents did not show up as compensation for home fans and travel expenses.

If my opponent should fail to show up I get 3 points and 1mBtc from them- my new model for the new rules.

[Harkorede]

....none of my concern!

Hey,

I submitted my answers already and my team could use some friendly warm up game against lower tier club, to get my youth players ready with some experience before the new season gets underway, what say you to a 1-2 mBTC sidebet ?

quote me with your decision (and choice) then it's game on!

[Trofo]

Hey guys, I couldn't find the link to make the payment, I'm one of the lucky few who owes money

It will be the same escrow addy we use for bsfl but don't pay just yet. We will ask for those buy ins immediately after we pay out all rewards. It was heads up to reserve money and to let is know if someone wants out.


@igebotz we are the one that submit free bets to payouts, we will just lower the amount in our table. All the money collected goes to next season.


Betting pairs for promotion/ relegation games are live. Gentleman place your bets and support your favourites.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/sportsbet-specials/matches/today

[Kokee44]

Here is a link to rewards distribution table. This is alpha version and main things you guys need to do is check your BTC addresses and let us know if you want it changed. If it is good no need to tell us. Those are addresses you signed up with in dedicated thread but double check to be certain. Once payments are out there is no going back.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14aA_BAAqK-T-YDo8hiWzTK1YfzrNauqv4AxQs-x18ps/edit#gid=1676475336

You can see from the tables that next season fees are as follows:
Division 1 - 2 mBTC
Division 2 - 1 mBTC
Division 3 - free

All fees will be auto taken from your rewards. We presume that everyone continues to play. Again, if you want out, this is the time to tell us. Also if you know somebody new that is interested, this is the week for him to sign up. If you have been disqualified and want back in let us know(there will be some sort of evil fee implemented).

Table is not 100% finished:
We need promotion/relegation playoffs to finish to correctly charge fees
We need cup to finish to correctly order top 4 cup participants

There will be few players that need to actually pay 1 mBTC to compete in Season 4 since your rewards are not in BTC. You can see by your name minus in to be paid column.

From next season we will again turn the screw on those that are not submitting. It is not official yet but it will probably look something like this:
1 miss - you loose 20% of the reward
2 misses - you loose 50% of the reward
3 misses - disqualification and no reward

If we don't have many new players this will be for all divisions but we may relinquish it in Div 3 if we get many new players. First two division are 99%.

HI Trofo
When will the Cup competition free bets be paid, for positions 5-8?