Without money, does it still qualify as gambling?

[FinneysTrueVision]

This particular site looks like it is being run by a casino and in order to claim your prize you have to be a member of this casino. It is just a promotion to attract players to do some real gambling. It is not a bad concept but I wonder if the prize money is worth it and if they will put up some obstacles that make it really difficult to actually withdraw your prize. Casino giveaways often come with burdensome requirements such as having to wager a certain amount before you can withdraw a bonus.

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[tjtonmoy]

Gambling involves money, so without this I don’t think its gambling.

Gambling does not always involves money. You can say, value of some sort or something you are putting at risk. Predicting something and acting on that by risking something should be called gambling.
For the OP, I think it could be called gambling but as you are not risking anything, just predicting, there's a thin line between gambling and not gambling. It can be different in people's perspective. It's just a fun game at this point. Something like a lottery.

I am still not sure what to call this but as long as you can make some money out of it, why not give it a try? But every free thing has a hidden purpose behind it. Maybe to collect personal data. Who knows? Be sure to check that out first.

[coinerer]

I don't think that when money is not involved by those participants,it is called gamble. Gambling means that you must place a bet and that is what will make you more serious in it because you know that if you lose,your money is gone. In this case,there is nobody losing anything but you can win when you predict correctly,gambling is either profit or loss. Therefore,I can call such as a reward because for you to get rewarded,you must have shown some quality that is outstanding from the rest people that you took part in an event or in a assignment.

Yes, there must be something at stake to be considered gambling. It can be direct money or any other valuable physical or digital goods. wherever it goes, there must be financial gain and loss in some way, then it can be considered as gambling. however, not only casino or sports bets are considered gambling, any kind of betting is considered gambling. But there must be a financial relationship. so according to the op's topic it can be said Without money, nothing is not qualify as gambling

You are right that it is not a condition of the bet and it cannot be called a bet if it does not use money but the prize is getting money, is that considered as gambling?
Since the Op said the prediction is done for free and if the prediction is correct there will be a real money prize from here I think this might not be considered as gambling but isn't it like that would trigger people to gamble with real money?

Predictions, lotteries are all gamblers I think. When you predict something you are not using money but you are using your intelligence to test your luck so I consider it as gambling. i am not sure if my opinion is true or not. but I also consider the op's point to be a gamble. I think you get my point

[348Judah]

You cannot expect to make use of a casino for your own profit maximization alone without being considerate enough to see them also making profits through your own mistakes when you're gambling, and this is both balanced by all means as the gamblers and casinos have the two experience common, the money we make use of is what serves as the gambling stake and a ground for the bet to take place with a effect, if you don't use money to gamble then you're doing other things similar to gambling but entirely different from gambling.

[Betwrong]

You cannot expect to make use of a casino for your own profit maximization alone without being considerate enough to see them also making profits through your own mistakes when you're gambling, and this is both balanced by all means as the gamblers and casinos have the two experience common, the money we make use of is what serves as the gambling stake and a ground for the bet to take place with a effect, if you don't use money to gamble then you're doing other things similar to gambling but entirely different from gambling.

Maybe not entirely, as @STT rightly pointed out above, there can be some similarities. But by its main definition, gambling is to gamble is to play games of chance for money. So, if there's no money involved, it's not exactly gambling, let's establish that.

Yet, I wouldn't advise current or former gambling addicts to play such games as in the OP.

[Odusko]

You cannot expect to make use of a casino for your own profit maximization alone without being considerate enough to see them also making profits through your own mistakes when you're gambling, and this is both balanced by all means as the gamblers and casinos have the two experience common, the money we make use of is what serves as the gambling stake and a ground for the bet to take place with a effect, if you don't use money to gamble then you're doing other things similar to gambling but entirely different from gambling.

That is the fact because casino need revenue to run the business and anytime you see a a casino in consistency in operation it means that their are generating enough revenue to run the business and that revenues comes from the loses and tge wagering of their customers.
So that is why gambling winning os base on luck and accurate calculation because just one game can destroy the entire ticket, but also we can't deny the fact that a couple of players have won the bets and earned a high stake that will cover up for the multiple loses they record in the previous time.

[elevates]

That is the fact because casino need revenue to run the business and anytime you see a a casino in consistency in operation it means that their are generating enough revenue to run the business and that revenues comes from the loses and tge wagering of their customers.
So that is why gambling winning os base on luck and accurate calculation because just one game can destroy the entire ticket, but also we can't deny the fact that a couple of players have won the bets and earned a high stake that will cover up for the multiple loses they record in the previous time.

I agree every casino is focused on revenue generation that is a fact. Still, you cannot ignore how they loot and sometimes scam users. There are a few casinos that stop gamblers from committing further losses while continuously losing. There have been a lot of instances when a user who has been winning constantly by following all the rules gets stopped and then banned. I do know that most of the time when investigated these guys were caught scamming. Still, there are a few who are still genuine but still get scammed by these casinos. Not everything is green on the other side of the fence.

[elevates]

That is the fact because casino need revenue to run the business and anytime you see a a casino in consistency in operation it means that their are generating enough revenue to run the business and that revenues comes from the loses and tge wagering of their customers.
So that is why gambling winning os base on luck and accurate calculation because just one game can destroy the entire ticket, but also we can't deny the fact that a couple of players have won the bets and earned a high stake that will cover up for the multiple loses they record in the previous time.

I agree every casino is focused on revenue generation that is a fact. Still, you cannot ignore how they loot and sometimes scam users. There are a few casinos that stop gamblers from committing further losses while continuously losing. There have been a lot of instances when a user who has been winning constantly by following all the rules gets stopped and then banned. I do know that most of the time when investigated these guys were caught scamming. Still, there are a few who are still genuine but still get scammed by these casinos. Not everything is green on the other side of the fence.

[Beparanf]

That is the fact because casino need revenue to run the business and anytime you see a a casino in consistency in operation it means that their are generating enough revenue to run the business and that revenues comes from the loses and tge wagering of their customers.
So that is why gambling winning os base on luck and accurate calculation because just one game can destroy the entire ticket, but also we can't deny the fact that a couple of players have won the bets and earned a high stake that will cover up for the multiple loses they record in the previous time.

I agree every casino is focused on revenue generation that is a fact. Still, you cannot ignore how they loot and sometimes scam users. There are a few casinos that stop gamblers from committing further losses while continuously losing. There have been a lot of instances when a user who has been winning constantly by following all the rules gets stopped and then banned. I do know that most of the time when investigated these guys were caught scamming. Still, there are a few who are still genuine but still get scammed by these casinos. Not everything is green on the other side of the fence.

If read the ToS, Casino has the right to close any account based on their own discretion without giving a detailed explanation. A players that is consistently having profit is not profitable on their business so they will surely kick you out or limit it to avoid loss in the long run for the casino since they are a business and not an income source. Their business is more on providing entertainment rather than giving money.

It's really unfair for players if we think about it but you will understand if you are a casino owner that want to make your business healthy as possible by removing gamblers that doesn't contribute to the casino profit.

[LUCKMCFLY]

There is nothing to think about once you become a gambling addict, your sense of thinking will be shut down, and the only thing left in your brain is when you will make it with gambling, you will keep dreaming about how you will buy a mansion and Lamborghini.

If you put in the strength to change a gambler, you could get somewhere for a few days and weeks, and once you leave them alone, they will start dreaming of the possibility that they could win a shot, a single shot will turn into 100s of a failed attempt and money would have been spent too many times already.

For the same reason, when a person feels like this, they must undergo psychological treatment quickly because otherwise they will continue to endanger their lives, a person who is addicted and has a lot of money, because it is not that much that affects them. he spends and spends his money and that is like nothing, but for a person who is not a millionaire and who plays and loses a lot, there will come a time when he has no more money to play with and that is when he begins to look for money from where O In order to continue playing, he lends, steals, spends what belongs to his family, and may fall into depression, that is what must be avoided.

As I have said before, things when it comes to money and addiction can change a lot, because at one point an addicted person is capable of looking for money from the most difficult corners, whether it is looking for bank loans, loans with relatives, money loans with friends, and the worst thing is that instead of winning in the casino, the opposite happens and despair is greater, these things are like that, it is what should be avoided.

[slapper]

There is nothing to think about once you become a gambling addict, your sense of thinking will be shut down, and the only thing left in your brain is when you will make it with gambling, you will keep dreaming about how you will buy a mansion and Lamborghini.

If you put in the strength to change a gambler, you could get somewhere for a few days and weeks, and once you leave them alone, they will start dreaming of the possibility that they could win a shot, a single shot will turn into 100s of a failed attempt and money would have been spent too many times already.

For the same reason, when a person feels like this, they must undergo psychological treatment quickly because otherwise they will continue to endanger their lives, a person who is addicted and has a lot of money, because it is not that much that affects them. he spends and spends his money and that is like nothing, but for a person who is not a millionaire and who plays and loses a lot, there will come a time when he has no more money to play with and that is when he begins to look for money from where O In order to continue playing, he lends, steals, spends what belongs to his family, and may fall into depression, that is what must be avoided.

As I have said before, things when it comes to money and addiction can change a lot, because at one point an addicted person is capable of looking for money from the most difficult corners, whether it is looking for bank loans, loans with relatives, money loans with friends, and the worst thing is that instead of winning in the casino, the opposite happens and despair is greater, these things are like that, it is what should be avoided.

It's true; people battling addiction often find themselves in financial quicksand. The situation intensifies for those who don't have the 'moneybags' privilege. There's an urgent need to address this - fast.

Now, let's tackle the thorny issue of 'financial disparity'. For the wealthy addicts, the loss is negligible (talk about a convenient safety net!). But, for the not-so-lucky, it's like hitting a double-whammy. Losing money is bad enough; getting into debt compounds the problem, turning life into a grim version of 'Deal or No Deal'.

The spiral of despair, as you mentioned, is a perilous pitfall. It's like a constant losing streak in the most ruthless casino—life. And the drive to keep finding money from 'difficult corners', ah, that's the dicey part. I agree, it's an 'avoid at all costs' scenario.

[Hamphser]

You cannot expect to make use of a casino for your own profit maximization alone without being considerate enough to see them also making profits through your own mistakes when you're gambling, and this is both balanced by all means as the gamblers and casinos have the two experience common, the money we make use of is what serves as the gambling stake and a ground for the bet to take place with a effect, if you don't use money to gamble then you're doing other things similar to gambling but entirely different from gambling.

That is the fact because casino need revenue to run the business and anytime you see a a casino in consistency in operation it means that their are generating enough revenue to run the business and that revenues comes from the loses and tge wagering of their customers.
So that is why gambling winning os base on luck and accurate calculation because just one game can destroy the entire ticket, but also we can't deny the fact that a couple of players have won the bets and earned a high stake that will cover up for the multiple loses they record in the previous time.

A common cycle or situation on which a business would really be continuing on running just because it is really that something that profitable or making revenue which it would really be understandable. This industry

wouldnt really becoming so big or having a progress if it wasnt really that making sufficient income or revenue which it would be understandable that there's a huge number when it comes to numbers of gamblers
or influx when it comes to this. Now that we are talking about those free bets and having those opportunities to make up some winnings on something free then it could be possible but usually these things do falls
down into the category for it to be a promotional thing or marketing on which if there's something like this to be an offer then it would really be just that temporal.

There's no way for a certain company would be offering something like this forever, there's always a catch if we do speak about these things.

[danadc]

That is the fact because casino need revenue to run the business and anytime you see a a casino in consistency in operation it means that their are generating enough revenue to run the business and that revenues comes from the loses and tge wagering of their customers.
So that is why gambling winning os base on luck and accurate calculation because just one game can destroy the entire ticket, but also we can't deny the fact that a couple of players have won the bets and earned a high stake that will cover up for the multiple loses they record in the previous time.

I agree every casino is focused on revenue generation that is a fact. Still, you cannot ignore how they loot and sometimes scam users. There are a few casinos that stop gamblers from committing further losses while continuously losing. There have been a lot of instances when a user who has been winning constantly by following all the rules gets stopped and then banned. I do know that most of the time when investigated these guys were caught scamming. Still, there are a few who are still genuine but still get scammed by these casinos. Not everything is green on the other side of the fence.

If read the ToS, Casino has the right to close any account based on their own discretion without giving a detailed explanation. A players that is consistently having profit is not profitable on their business so they will surely kick you out or limit it to avoid loss in the long run for the casino since they are a business and not an income source. Their business is more on providing entertainment rather than giving money.

It's really unfair for players if we think about it but you will understand if you are a casino owner that want to make your business healthy as possible by removing gamblers that doesn't contribute to the casino profit.

I did not know that these cons or those conditions exist, is it in which casinos? because I don't believe it in all of them, I also think that a casino does allow its players to lose, but those who win must reward them and give them recognition, I have seen in some casinos that they do it like this, there is nothing wrong with them being lucky or taking advantage the opportunities they have, and if the casino closes an account for winning a lot , it is because it does not have any type of Professionalism or honesty, it is a total failure , that is to release it on social networks and let them know that this can be Called cheating.

[khaled0111]

Again, I am a it disappointed that you guys are still arguing about this subject, although the subject has been deviated a little bit.
You need to check the definition of what gambling is and what is considered gambling then you can judge if playing a game without risking money can be considered as gambling.
According to the replies of some members, we can say that football matches, video games or any other game where there is a winner and a loser is considered as gambling. Come on!

[LUCKMCFLY]

Nevertheless, Forex and gambling have very similar financial instruments for making money, which completely erase the line between trading and gambling. So - on Forex there is such a contract called an Option. An option is such a tool when you predict that the price of a certain currency pair will be lower or higher after a while, and if you guess, you will get +100 percent to the deposit. Does it remind you of anything? This is a one-on-one roulette game for red and black. At the same time, since our topic is about games and trading not for money, then why that Options can be used on demo accounts.

The question is very good, but I think that things can be given as a demo account to verify that things in demo mode, such as the money is fictitious, the person plays calmer without fear of losing because he knows that he will not lose anything, then the tools that exist both in casinos and on exchanges is what we must know how to understand, why? because when we play or trade on a casino platform or when we trade real money, if we make a mistake because we don't understand the tools well, we lose money.

In casino games we must understand everything, what each thing is for, because we don't know if we can use it at any given time to save our investment, I think that's why there is always a demo mode with play money.

In conclusion, I think that when you play anything without including money, it can become boring at times, but when we put money automatically, the emotion will be rotten, so it could be said that the game in demo mode and/or with play money is for educational purposes and to be able to do things much better, so as not to have mistakes when playing for real money.

[delfastTions]

Nevertheless, Forex and gambling have very similar financial instruments for making money, which completely erase the line between trading and gambling. So - on Forex there is such a contract called an Option. An option is such a tool when you predict that the price of a certain currency pair will be lower or higher after a while, and if you guess, you will get +100 percent to the deposit. Does it remind you of anything? This is a one-on-one roulette game for red and black. At the same time, since our topic is about games and trading not for money, then why that Options can be used on demo accounts.

The question is very good, but I think that things can be given as a demo account to verify that things in demo mode, such as the money is fictitious, the person plays calmer without fear of losing because he knows that he will not lose anything, then the tools that exist both in casinos and on exchanges is what we must know how to understand, why? because when we play or trade on a casino platform or when we trade real money, if we make a mistake because we don't understand the tools well, we lose money.

In casino games we must understand everything, what each thing is for, because we don't know if we can use it at any given time to save our investment, I think that's why there is always a demo mode with play money.

In conclusion, I think that when you play anything without including money, it can become boring at times, but when we put money automatically, the emotion will be rotten, so it could be said that the game in demo mode and/or with play money is for educational purposes and to be able to do things much better, so as not to have mistakes when playing for real money.

My own experience clearly shows that using demo accounts and practicing your actions on a demo account is not just a waste of time, but also a completely harmful activity for the simple reason that it takes your time and does not allow you to really develop the necessary skills.  It is much better and more correct to use not a demo version in trading and games, but very small real deposits in cryptocurrency.  For example, a few dollars, losing which is almost imperceptible to your budget. 
Thus, you will develop the necessary skills much faster and more correctly.

[elevates]

Anything that involves luck is for me a gamble and gambling leads to addiction if not taken as entertainment. When you are playing to check your luck and if it involves money then that kind of entertainment gives you an adrenaline rush. That rush gives you a sense of excitement and uncertainty that is proportional to taking a risk without knowing the end. Any kind of bet without money is still a bet and yes it qualifies as gambling. It seems OP has never placed a bet in his life which might be the reason OP created this thread.

[Odusko]

Without money truly gambling can not have the same experiences and excitement and even the lesson will not be properly learned if you don't stake money, i had an ugly experience recently where I was playing the demo version and I felt that I was not doing enough so I increased the standing by playing the real game version and staking an amount.
And by the end of the day, it happens that I lost almost everything and that thought me a great lesson because I thought that since I was winning the demo games, u will easily win the bet when playing the real game, but that was not my reality and it did on me that gambling is high risk and lesson need to be learned constantly.

[LUCKMCFLY]

But for obvious reasons,  some of the folks who are addicted to this kind on none betting game are higher than those who are actually addicted to real gambling where they have to stake an amount.

I believe what happens is that when there isn't money involved gamblers don't feel the excitement they use to have when betting for real money. When there is nothing to lose and nothing considerable to win the effects on your brain are different. The release of dopamine doesn't happen, your heart doesn't beat faster, you don't get chills. There aren't high expectations regards the outcome, because if winning or losing the bet it won't make any difference on your life.

It's like people say: no pain, no gain, although in gambling I think we could say: no risk, no thrill.

If it is a gambler, they will not find it any challenge as there is no money involved, and it can make them unwilling to continue. But if there is money, they will surely be eager to continue, and this is where the real temptation of gambling lies. And maybe if there weren't any money, prizes, or anything at stake, it wouldn't be gambling but just an ordinary game played by two or more people. And we also have often experienced it and maybe felt the fun playing the game. Like for example, we compete or play games on phones. We don't get money or anything but only find pleasure in playing it.

For any challenge , games or whatever has to do with casinos , it must always be considered that if there is no game there is no Excitement for some people, that is Something that cannot be Changed from one day to the Next, things When it comes to casinos it's Different , you have Interests that make your game monopolize attention, and it's the same essence of winning or losing money , of hitting it and you're the winner, I think that's what Makes Everything come true See so Interesting, when we Play with money that is not real, things can be Boring , but for educational and learning aspects it is what Normally should be done and play with play money.

Indeed, your outlook on the intoxicating thrill of wagering - the adrenaline rushes, the defeats and victories - is enlightening. This emotional whirlwind has an undeniable allure. Yet, I question your dismissal of 'play money.' Consider this: 'Play money' could be a training ground for understanding casino dynamics, couldn't it? A safety net that mitigates financial risks while encouraging growth. It's a win-win: enjoy the game while bypassing fiscal consequences! Plus, it fosters discipline for when real stakes are involved. So, I champion 'play money' as a stepping-stone to safer and smarter gaming.

Of course, we as players, as traders, will always find ourselves on occasions with many places where we will see demo accounts, play money and everything that has to do with what is demo, which is not bad, it is taken into consideration that a person when you don't know how to make a bet, the demo mode is your salvation, because it doesn't matter if you lose money, it's a demo mode, the money is fictitious, it's also for that, to learn how to use the tools that the casino offers in a game specific, the same happens with exchanges, there are many tools, and you can try all of them and learn to use them.

Casinos and exchanges have this point in common, that they have demo mode or play money, for me it is super important that in demo mode of an exchange you can operate first, and in casinos once you have full knowledge of how to play so that they venture into the real mode with real money.

[Wiwo]

Of course, we as players, as traders, will always find ourselves on occasions with many places where we will see demo accounts, play money and everything that has to do with what is demo, which is not bad, it is taken into consideration that a person when you don't know how to make a bet, the demo mode is your salvation, because it doesn't matter if you lose money, it's a demo mode, the money is fictitious, it's also for that, to learn how to use the tools that the casino offers in a game specific, the same happens with exchanges, there are many tools, and you can try all of them and learn to use them.

Casinos and exchanges have this point in common, that they have demo mode or play money, for me it is super important that in demo mode of an exchange you can operate first, and in casinos once you have full knowledge of how to play so that they venture into the real mode with real money.

Well you are very correct and that is why we refers to casino and exchange as sister service providers because future trading is same as gambling because you risk losing all at some point and this have made many newbies to both trading and gambling to have similar experiences and because of experience many of them have lost good money because the did not not know or master the act of gambling or trading between demo account and the real live games. After all, this is two different things and at that, we must learn the difference between both of them.

I use to play a demo game and I have almost 80% winning chances at that, I thought the same will apply to the next real live games and thereafter most of my bets were all lost.