Without money, does it still qualify as gambling?

[BitcoinPanther]

There are kinds of gambling we play in our local settings doesn't demand the inclusion of money, it's all for the fun that comes with it and it's still regarded as gambling just same way with the superpick game. They're all gambling without or without money involved.

You are just playing a game of chance.  It is a common misconception that when they are playing with cards or any game of chance or skill, they thought they are already gambling.  It is easy to identify what is gambling and what is not.  The common factor of a gambling activity is when you put a bet or stake to win a prize.  It was just listed on the earlier reply that the factor to consider an activity to be a gambling is the presence of these 3 elements.

 Gambling elements

• Stake
• Risk
• Reward

About your question, no  i dont know that page, because seems like a local page from your country, b ut still very similar to another ones.
Yes they give money, but its """"for free"""" this kind of page are entry gates to the gambling world, to people who doesnt want yet to put his money.
So they dont make this because they are good, they make this thinking in catch some new players, you can see the advertisement of one bet page.

True that it is to bait players but the question in hand is whether it is an act of gambling if your join the promo that is stake-free and can win a prize if the prediction is correct.

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

If it involves money, prediction and the anticipation that you'll gonna win or there's some kind of competition, I think that can be categorized as gambling. It still anticipates a reward at the end so for me that's still gambling.

Nope it isn't gambling for the reason that there is no stake or bet involved.

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[stomachgrowls]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

About your question, no  i dont know that page, because seems like a local page from your country, b ut still very similar to another ones.
Yes they give money, but its """"for free"""" this kind of page are entry gates to the gambling world, to people who doesnt want yet to put his money.

So they dont make this because they are good, they make this thinking in catch some new players, you can see the advertisement of one bet page.

Also i think they sell some data to info/data analizers about what people think about X match.

There's always a catch because they cant really just give out some prizes for free without any benefits, if we do make out some conversion into the said prize then it is really still that big. The question is, where they do get those amounts from to be given out from winning? Sounds impossible right, this is where we would really be assuming about those info/data which they might really be compensating but well
we cant really make out some pointing fingers because of having no such proof.
Gambling cant be called gambling if there would be no money gets involved or something you do risk on even not on monetary form.
We know that we arent taking up some risks or we cant lose something which means its not gambling at all.
If the site given was legit then it wont really be that bad to participate considering that it is really just that free for you to get involved with
plus having the chance on winning.

[GideonGono]

As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

About your question, no  i dont know that page, because seems like a local page from your country, b ut still very similar to another ones.
Yes they give money, but its """"for free"""" this kind of page are entry gates to the gambling world, to people who doesnt want yet to put his money.

So they dont make this because they are good, they make this thinking in catch some new players, you can see the advertisement of one bet page.

Also i think they sell some data to info/data analizers about what people think about X match.

There's always a catch because they cant really just give out some prizes for free without any benefits, if we do make out some conversion into the said prize then it is really still that big. The question is, where they do get those amounts from to be given out from winning? Sounds impossible right, this is where we would really be assuming about those info/data which they might really be compensating but well
we cant really make out some pointing fingers because of having no such proof.
Gambling cant be called gambling if there would be no money gets involved or something you do risk on even not on monetary form.
We know that we arent taking up some risks or we cant lose something which means its not gambling at all.
If the site given was legit then it wont really be that bad to participate considering that it is really just that free for you to get involved with
plus having the chance on winning.

  -   Exactly, how can you say a gamble that you have not made any bets on a game that has no actual loss or win if it is just a prediction.

It's not like we're just wasting time and time if we do this kind of thing that I can't even say is a game in the gambling industry. And I also don't understand if they can still be called players who will participate in this.

[ethereumhunter]

As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.

Sometimes we forget that it is gambling and still think it is not gambling. We think that anything that uses money is gambling, whereas that does not use money, it is not gambling so in predicting it, we say it is not gambling. But as you said, whatever it is, if there is value to be gained from predictions, it is gambling. Well, that is the response from people only.

[Plaguedeath]

  -   Exactly, how can you say a gamble that you have not made any bets on a game that has no actual loss or win if it is just a prediction.

It's not like we're just wasting time and time if we do this kind of thing that I can't even say is a game in the gambling industry. And I also don't understand if they can still be called players who will participate in this.

Which one is wasting time? someone who participate a prediction to win some money without need to spend any money or he gamble with faucet until he met minimum amount to withdraw aren't wasting time for them. Most of them are live in third world countries where they don't mind only get $1-$2 for spend 2 hours because it's bigger than their current job in real life.

The casino will don't mind to giveaway $50 if they get a lot traffic, so I'd say it's a win-win situation.

[klidex]

As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.

Sometimes we forget that it is gambling and still think it is not gambling. We think that anything that uses money is gambling, whereas that does not use money, it is not gambling so in predicting it, we say it is not gambling. But as you said, whatever it is, if there is value to be gained from predictions, it is gambling. Well, that is the response from people only.

Actually the response to this Op case is still a hot topic of conversation because everyone has different opinions and thoughts, like now you think it's gambling because there are several risk triggers to gamble using real money.
For myself, betting for free to get real prizes from the results of this prediction can be considered open gambling as long as we consider this only a game that allows us to earn money from this guessing or prediction game.
But it will be gambling if the person is triggered by this prediction and bets using personal money to predict, then this is gambling.
So all responses return to their respective mindsets.

[TopTort777]

I am stupid, so please explain.

Do I get it correct, I can place a free bet, there is not futher wagering requirement and there are people that who are amazed of that?

Ever heard of faucets? Claim as much as you want and place bets, play games. What is so special about superpicks.com ? Many casinos give "free money". Duelbits sometimes give 1 dollar free bets, Sportsbet have prediction challenges with free bets prizes, BetFury has BTC faucet. I see nothing worth discussing 10 pages here...

Btw, as to "without money" and "gambling". Arent in China (or other Asian country), people gamble with small aluminium balls, because direct gambling is prohibited, but later exchange those balls for fiat? Because such betting with small balls does not count as gambling with money

[QueenVera]

As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.

Exactly mate and I couldn't agree any less with you but I think the very type of game the op was talking about wasn't having any risk especially with regards to the player and I don't think the player has any form of loss, I mean the player doesn't have anything entirely to lose and I think the superpicks is actually trying to achieve a firm of marketing.
I've always known gambling as a very risky business that has to do with losing of money and if one isn't scared if losing anything then it isn't gambling from my perspective.

[CryptSafe]

As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.

Exactly mate and I couldn't agree any less with you but I think the very type of game the op was talking about wasn't having any risk especially with regards to the player and I don't think the player has any form of loss, I mean the player doesn't have anything entirely to lose and I think the superpicks is actually trying to achieve a firm of marketing.
I've always known gambling as a very risky business that has to do with losing of money and if one isn't scared if losing anything then it isn't gambling from my perspective.

Same thought too. I see gambling as a risky exercise though and it requires a commitment which can be in the form of cash or a collateral if anything happens otherwise. If one says he or she gambled then you should ask them what was their commitment to the process but if they did not commit anything for the game then know that it is not a gamble exercise but just a mere game for leisure because they had no commitment to the game and therefore have no fear of loosing anything at that stand.

Sometimes commitment to gambling can not only be money, it might involve other means like car, house, groceries etc to be put inline for the process. I say this because I have witnessed this here in my country on many occasions where a game is about to kick start and you see friends start betting with their wristwatches, cars and some tangible  assets for their preferred team.

With all these experience and knowledge about gambling and betting, I concluded that  gambling exercise involves something tangible to be used otherwise and if there are no commitment, then the exercise can not be termed a gamble.

[Bushdark]

As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.

When it does not involves money, how can we say that it is risky or contains some atom of risks. When we gamble it always involves the risk of losing money unless it is a free spin or bonus for us to try our luck. Gambling could involves money, bet, material things or something that will cost us something. I know I have placed many free games in form of bonus and if I win I do take the money that is involved which is what makes it gambling because of the finance that is involved which is the reason many gamblers would always want to gamble.

[Shamm]

In my opinion.

Everything you do, activity and other think on the casino are gambling. You're not gambling now, but there has some chance you are gonna to gambling soon in the future. The temptation are high, If you are stay on gambling sector.

So, I call it gambling. It's promotion, you get free money soon you're losing then are gonna triggered you to deposit.

Yes you are right that mate we can not predict the future as we all know that there's a big possible that once we are not playing in casino before then a big chance that we can access in the future and also nowadays there are many influencers out there promoting a gambling sites. So we can not deny that if this kind of routine we have and everyday we saw a gambling sites then for sure out of curiosity we will try and deposit an amount.

[BitcoinPanther]

Actually the response to this Op case is still a hot topic of conversation because everyone has different opinions and thoughts, like now you think it's gambling because there are several risk triggers to gamble using real money.
For myself, betting for free to get real prizes from the results of this prediction can be considered open gambling as long as we consider this only a game that allows us to earn money from this guessing or prediction game.
But it will be gambling if the person is triggered by this prediction and bets using personal money to predict, then this is gambling.
So all responses return to their respective mindsets.

But there is already a written rule about what to consider a gambling or not.  So personal opinion does not matter on this since a fact is already written about what is considered to be a gambling. It is actually a known topic but many of us here thinks that they know better than the set of rules stated and established by the dictionary and legal documents about gambling.  It is written in all definition of gambling that it needs a stake, money or something of value to be put to risk in order to get a reward.  How can someone consider a game that has no stake in hand.  Without stake there is no risk, without risk it cannot be considered a gambling even though there is a prize ahead.  It can be called a game of chance if prediction is involved and there is no need for the player to stake money. 

[Lanatsa]

As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.

Exactly mate and I couldn't agree any less with you but I think the very type of game the op was talking about wasn't having any risk especially with regards to the player and I don't think the player has any form of loss, I mean the player doesn't have anything entirely to lose and I think the superpicks is actually trying to achieve a firm of marketing.
I've always known gambling as a very risky business that has to do with losing of money and if one isn't scared if losing anything then it isn't gambling from my perspective.

Same thought too. I see gambling as a risky exercise though and it requires a commitment which can be in the form of cash or a collateral if anything happens otherwise. If one says he or she gambled then you should ask them what was their commitment to the process but if they did not commit anything for the game then know that it is not a gamble exercise but just a mere game for leisure because they had no commitment to the game and therefore have no fear of loosing anything at that stand.

Sometimes commitment to gambling can not only be money, it might involve other means like car, house, groceries etc to be put inline for the process. I say this because I have witnessed this here in my country on many occasions where a game is about to kick start and you see friends start betting with their wristwatches, cars and some tangible  assets for their preferred team.

With all these experience and knowledge about gambling and betting, I concluded that  gambling exercise involves something tangible to be used otherwise and if there are no commitment, then the exercise can not be termed a gamble.

From the word gambling literally which does simply implies that you are really that gambling on something for you to earn something with it, which in this case if there are some free bets been offered but you do

still have the chance to win up some prizes then it cant really be called gambling at all since you are really that having not to risk something for you to win something which is understandable.Just be that thankful that there are platforms or companies who do offer that kind of free bet on something getting a chance on earning some free money if you have done it right. In most cases this would be flocked out by lots of people, who doesnt really like on free things? specially if you do know that prize is considerable enough for you to consider out.

I dont know on whats the catch on this one because one thing that would be boggling up your mind is on how they would be making money out of giving out some free money?
This isnt how a  business do works on which it is really the opposite. Well, i couldnt raise up more questions and it would be that great if they would be continuing on offering
something like this but of course this would really be just on limited time i do believe.

[noormcs5]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I don't know exactly if the predictions can be classifed as gambling if no money in involved in the process. Another site is https://www.superbru.com/ where one can predict and win money without having to invest. I would not call it a pure form of gambling.

As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.

If there is no money involved, then there is no risk in predicting the outcome of matches. For example check this thread Bitcointalk IPL Prediction Pool & Discussion 2023 where there is no money needed to take part in matches prediction but you will get the money if you finish in the top 3.

[Mr.right85]

It is written in all definition of gambling that it needs a stake, money or something of value to be put to risk in order to get a reward. 

Not something I've taken out time to check but, I must agree with the stakes for reward definition. Its almost ethical from a common sense perspective that, you've got to have something of value to lose by a means of your inaccurate prediction. If you ain't having anything at stake, then it's not gambling.

Okay, How about just making predictions without expecting any monetary reward but, just the cheer for beibg right or annoyance when you get it wrong. Those too could be some reward, lol... its even funny to me but, gambling has to come with a stake on both sides.

[Myleschetty]

Gambling is something that has to do with staking money for a chance to participate in a gambling game but in the situation addressed by the OP, we can consider it to be gambling because it's a promotion provided by super sport and gambling website in order to have more customers on their platform. It's just like giving back to the community.

[ethereumhunter]

As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.

Sometimes we forget that it is gambling and still think it is not gambling. We think that anything that uses money is gambling, whereas that does not use money, it is not gambling so in predicting it, we say it is not gambling. But as you said, whatever it is, if there is value to be gained from predictions, it is gambling. Well, that is the response from people only.

Actually the response to this Op case is still a hot topic of conversation because everyone has different opinions and thoughts, like now you think it's gambling because there are several risk triggers to gamble using real money.
For myself, betting for free to get real prizes from the results of this prediction can be considered open gambling as long as we consider this only a game that allows us to earn money from this guessing or prediction game.
But it will be gambling if the person is triggered by this prediction and bets using personal money to predict, then this is gambling.
So all responses return to their respective mindsets.

It's true what you say. But it's already a gamble because it's a free bet to get a real prize, even if it's just a prediction result. And many people don't realize that it is gambling because they think they are not spending any money at all to give their predictions and if they are lucky, they will get a real prize.

And that will trigger people to bet because eventually, people will want to get big prizes where there is a requirement to use real money to place bets. For this prediction game, I remember a site called futuur which also provides lots of predictions and we can use the tokens in the casino besides using other main coins.

[kotajikikox]

Gambling is something that has to do with staking money for a chance to participate in a gambling game but in the situation addressed by the OP, we can consider it to be gambling because it's a promotion provided by super sport and gambling website in order to have more customers on their platform. It's just like giving back to the community.

The occasion is indeed gambling , but the bettor ? can we consider them as Gambler in that way when they did not even put a single cent to gamble?
this is  a never ending debate I believe unless will be answered directly by those who are involved and admit if they are gambler or not.
this can be handled by not gambler that only wants to try their luck as it is a freebet.

[wiss19]

There are kinds of gambling we play in our local settings doesn't demand the inclusion of money, it's all for the fun that comes with it and it's still regarded as gambling just same way with the superpick game. They're all gambling without or without money involved.

From the local settings perspective, when money is not involved in gambling, we may refer to it as game because we can guess or argue about games of different kinds within the neighborhood, when we put in our money, then we are in for taking the risk and we have set in for gambling because in gambling, you make use of money to place a bet before you can enjoy gambling, here you put in all your efforts towards it and have the potential of winning a particular amount in gambling.

I don't understand why some people don't get the simple thing that anything that you do without risking any money or valuable goods or anything at all that is of value to you is not gambling, and gambling is only when you have something staked up that you can lose if you don't win or guess the correct outcome of whatever you are playing.

Even if you are playing a game with cards that is usually a gambling game but you are playing just for fun with your friends without anything at stake, that isn't considered gambling, until you guys start betting things on the games you are playing.