Without money, does it still qualify as gambling?

[maydna]

But for obvious reasons,  some of the folks who are addicted to this kind on none betting game are higher than those who are actually addicted to real gambling where they have to stake an amount.

I believe what happens is that when there isn't money involved gamblers don't feel the excitement they use to have when betting for real money. When there is nothing to lose and nothing considerable to win the effects on your brain are different. The release of dopamine doesn't happen, your heart doesn't beat faster, you don't get chills. There aren't high expectations regards the outcome, because if winning or losing the bet it won't make any difference on your life.

It's like people say: no pain, no gain, although in gambling I think we could say: no risk, no thrill.

If it is a gambler, they will not find it any challenge as there is no money involved, and it can make them unwilling to continue. But if there is money, they will surely be eager to continue, and this is where the real temptation of gambling lies. And maybe if there weren't any money, prizes, or anything at stake, it wouldn't be gambling but just an ordinary game played by two or more people. And we also have often experienced it and maybe felt the fun playing the game. Like for example, we compete or play games on phones. We don't get money or anything but only find pleasure in playing it.

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[paxmao]

But for obvious reasons,  some of the folks who are addicted to this kind on none betting game are higher than those who are actually addicted to real gambling where they have to stake an amount.

I believe what happens is that when there isn't money involved gamblers don't feel the excitement they use to have when betting for real money. When there is nothing to lose and nothing considerable to win the effects on your brain are different. The release of dopamine doesn't happen, your heart doesn't beat faster, you don't get chills. There aren't high expectations regards the outcome, because if winning or losing the bet it won't make any difference on your life.

It's like people say: no pain, no gain, although in gambling I think we could say: no risk, no thrill.

If it is a gambler, they will not find it any challenge as there is no money involved, and it can make them unwilling to continue. But if there is money, they will surely be eager to continue, and this is where the real temptation of gambling lies. And maybe if there weren't any money, prizes, or anything at stake, it wouldn't be gambling but just an ordinary game played by two or more people. And we also have often experienced it and maybe felt the fun playing the game. Like for example, we compete or play games on phones. We don't get money or anything but only find pleasure in playing it.

You raise an interesting point about the role of money in gambling. It's true that the element of risk and the potential for financial gain or loss is a significant aspect of what makes gambling enticing to many people. The prospect of winning money can create a sense of excitement and motivation to continue playing. Some people may just have to have it.

[maydna]

But for obvious reasons,  some of the folks who are addicted to this kind on none betting game are higher than those who are actually addicted to real gambling where they have to stake an amount.

I believe what happens is that when there isn't money involved gamblers don't feel the excitement they use to have when betting for real money. When there is nothing to lose and nothing considerable to win the effects on your brain are different. The release of dopamine doesn't happen, your heart doesn't beat faster, you don't get chills. There aren't high expectations regards the outcome, because if winning or losing the bet it won't make any difference on your life.

It's like people say: no pain, no gain, although in gambling I think we could say: no risk, no thrill.

If it is a gambler, they will not find it any challenge as there is no money involved, and it can make them unwilling to continue. But if there is money, they will surely be eager to continue, and this is where the real temptation of gambling lies. And maybe if there weren't any money, prizes, or anything at stake, it wouldn't be gambling but just an ordinary game played by two or more people. And we also have often experienced it and maybe felt the fun playing the game. Like for example, we compete or play games on phones. We don't get money or anything but only find pleasure in playing it.

You raise an interesting point about the role of money in gambling. It's true that the element of risk and the potential for financial gain or loss is a significant aspect of what makes gambling enticing to many people. The prospect of winning money can create a sense of excitement and motivation to continue playing. Some people may just have to have it.

With that money, people are becoming more interested in continuing to play it. But if they do not use money, they only play it for a short time and may look for other more challenging games. But other games wouldn't make them more challenging if they didn't use the money anyway. So if there is money, there is a feeling of being challenged, so they will try to get the money. And that's the difference between playing with money and not using money.

[Zilon]

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I won't regard this as gambling because no money is staked. There is completely nothing to lose if the prediction goes wrong so I will just call it a luck trial. Gambling to me involves staking something with the hope that our predictions will give us access to more funds. But as long as nothing is staked and there is nothing to lose and little or no emotion will get involved it is just a way to try out how lucky you can be.

[gabbie2010]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I will also refer it to another form of gambling which is risk free, it also involved little effort and time though a lucky winner will emerge from thousand of people who made prediction, I recall when a bottling company maker of  Coke cola did a promo in my country where customers are expected to open the seal on the cover of the bottled Coke drinks whatever object displayed is what is won by the customer or consumer of course this is another form of gambling which is risk free because you only paid for the drink however if you are lucky you can win TV, these categories of gambling is less harmful and wouldn't result to any bankruptcy though with a very slim chances of winning.

[xSkylarx]

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I won't regard this as gambling because no money is staked. There is completely nothing to lose if the prediction goes wrong so I will just call it a luck trial. Gambling to me involves staking something with the hope that our predictions will give us access to more funds. But as long as nothing is staked and there is nothing to lose and little or no emotion will get involved it is just a way to try out how lucky you can be.

But it doesn't mean that if the money is not on the line it will not be gambling, as long as there is on the line like having some sort of chores it is still gambling because as long you have something on bet it is still betting. It is really boring if you are just watching the game without any bets because you couldn't earn if your supporting teams losses.You are right no emotions is involved and it is just some sort of friendly games

[Doan9269]

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I won't regard this as gambling because no money is staked. There is completely nothing to lose if the prediction goes wrong so I will just call it a luck trial. Gambling to me involves staking something with the hope that our predictions will give us access to more funds. But as long as nothing is staked and there is nothing to lose and little or no emotion will get involved it is just a way to try out how lucky you can be.

Yes, that's true, there should be what will stand as stake even if it's not a monetary value, this can comes in a form of an item or any valuable to be used as stake, but i will advise not to always result in using other alternative options as stake whenever you're not having money to gamble, many had turn to having less or nothing at the cause of doing this and we should not be too addicted to gambling in such manners.

[Shamm]

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I won't regard this as gambling because no money is staked. There is completely nothing to lose if the prediction goes wrong so I will just call it a luck trial. Gambling to me involves staking something with the hope that our predictions will give us access to more funds. But as long as nothing is staked and there is nothing to lose and little or no emotion will get involved it is just a way to try out how lucky you can be.

But it doesn't mean that if the money is not on the line it will not be gambling, as long as there is on the line like having some sort of chores it is still gambling because as long you have something on bet it is still betting. It is really boring if you are just watching the game without any bets because you couldn't earn if your supporting teams losses.You are right no emotions is involved and it is just some sort of friendly games

Betting is a good when it involves in money or let just say involves with things. Because we can considered as a gambling if there's a bet even money or a thing., as long as you and your opponent have the deal then for me it will called gambling. I will agree with you mate it because every when you are watching the game without the curiosity of betting then for me it's boring.

[LUCKMCFLY]

This thread is interesting because everything focuses on the game with betting money or not, that is, betting something that makes us happy and having that moment of winning or losing, that when we win or are in that process our mind and body experience Emotions that some It makes you laugh, cry or sad, I have said many times that if you have to bet to win, you have to take risks because there is no other way to win, in life you have to take risks, here in casinos, in sports betting Things work that way, there is no other way, you have to bet , if you win, Excellent, if you lose, then wait for another opportunity , it's that simple.

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I won't regard this as gambling because no money is staked. There is completely nothing to lose if the prediction goes wrong so I will just call it a luck trial. Gambling to me involves staking something with the hope that our predictions will give us access to more funds. But as long as nothing is staked and there is nothing to lose and little or no emotion will get involved it is just a way to try out how lucky you can be.

But it doesn't mean that if the money is not on the line it will not be gambling, as long as there is on the line like having some sort of chores it is still gambling because as long you have something on bet it is still betting. It is really boring if you are just watching the game without any bets because you couldn't earn if your supporting teams losses.You are right no emotions is involved and it is just some sort of friendly games

Betting is a good when it involves in money or let just say involves with things. Because we can considered as a gambling if there's a bet even money or a thing., as long as you and your opponent have the deal then for me it will called gambling. I will agree with you mate it because every when you are watching the game without the curiosity of betting then for me it's boring.

A person will always pay attention to what they do if they have money to win or lose, that is what normally gives them emotions, and if it is understandable, because playing for the sake of playing, it can be an option , but when the money is there betting or risking It is something else , what I Think is that if it can be seen as a bet without money it is something boring , but I always see that for some they bet under any circumstance and if they lose they do not care , there are Really people who have lost the fear of losing, for that is that anything they do without denomination is not good for them.

[GigaBit]

But for obvious reasons,  some of the folks who are addicted to this kind on none betting game are higher than those who are actually addicted to real gambling where they have to stake an amount.

I believe what happens is that when there isn't money involved gamblers don't feel the excitement they use to have when betting for real money. When there is nothing to lose and nothing considerable to win the effects on your brain are different. The release of dopamine doesn't happen, your heart doesn't beat faster, you don't get chills. There aren't high expectations regards the outcome, because if winning or losing the bet it won't make any difference on your life.

It's like people say: no pain, no gain, although in gambling I think we could say: no risk, no thrill.

If it is a gambler, they will not find it any challenge as there is no money involved, and it can make them unwilling to continue. But if there is money, they will surely be eager to continue, and this is where the real temptation of gambling lies.

We can consider as a bet or gamble only when a few important factors are met. Otherwise, we cannot think of it as gambling.
To be a bet we must be concerned with money. There will be an opportunity to win or loss. It will also be risky. A gambler will take a risk in exchange for the possibility of getting more money from the bet. The gambler will depend on the probability and he is willing to take the risk. Gamblers typically will love to enjoy the excitement derived from this uncertainty and whenever these things are organized, we can imagine it as a gamble.

[noormcs5]

If you can win money even without putting money at first then I think yes it can qualify as gambling
Depends on the game too
Poker as an example can be played to make money and won’t be qualified as gambling but as a skill game

On the other hand I wouldn’t be so sure to define something as gambling if you can’t lose money

Which came you are referring where you do not put the money and still you have the chances to win money ?

When you talk about gambling it is all about risk and the risk come when you invest the money. You put the money on a game, gamble it, risk it and in the end you win some money or lose your seed money. This is called gambling and I think without the money I will not considered any game as a gamble.

[maydna]

But for obvious reasons,  some of the folks who are addicted to this kind on none betting game are higher than those who are actually addicted to real gambling where they have to stake an amount.

I believe what happens is that when there isn't money involved gamblers don't feel the excitement they use to have when betting for real money. When there is nothing to lose and nothing considerable to win the effects on your brain are different. The release of dopamine doesn't happen, your heart doesn't beat faster, you don't get chills. There aren't high expectations regards the outcome, because if winning or losing the bet it won't make any difference on your life.

It's like people say: no pain, no gain, although in gambling I think we could say: no risk, no thrill.

If it is a gambler, they will not find it any challenge as there is no money involved, and it can make them unwilling to continue. But if there is money, they will surely be eager to continue, and this is where the real temptation of gambling lies.

We can consider as a bet or gamble only when a few important factors are met. Otherwise, we cannot think of it as gambling.
To be a bet we must be concerned with money. There will be an opportunity to win or loss. It will also be risky. A gambler will take a risk in exchange for the possibility of getting more money from the bet. The gambler will depend on the probability and he is willing to take the risk. Gamblers typically will love to enjoy the excitement derived from this uncertainty and whenever these things are organized, we can imagine it as a gamble.

And before taking the plunge, the gambler must consider how much he is risking and how he can reduce his risk factors so he doesn't lose more. Only in this way can he get pleasure from gambling, and maybe the risk of losing will also be reduced.

Some gamblers only play games without using money, such as games at casinos using the demo mode. They do that to see the game and get a feel for it. If they feel that the game is interesting, they will use the money to gamble immediately in real mode.

[Weawant]

If you can win money even without putting money at first then I think yes it can qualify as gambling
Depends on the game too
Poker as an example can be played to make money and won’t be qualified as gambling but as a skill game

On the other hand I wouldn’t be so sure to define something as gambling if you can’t lose money

Without money been at stake it doesn't qualify as gambling because we have so many activities that people can participate in and they're organized by companies for the purpose of promoting their brand. In such activities, you can win cash prizes and you weren't gambling

Some companies organized a lottery system for their customers and they can win by buying more goods from their shopes or making use of the service that he companies are offering. Then they can randomly select winners by using some criteria and gifting them prizes.

I support your thoughts of it been gambling when you can lose money which means there has to be money stakes by one or two persons for you to be able to lose it. Anything that has money stakes can be classified as gambling, you might be playing with another person or computer.

[Betwrong]

Pretty sure I've commented on this before but gambling and money are not necessarily a hand in hand marriage.  For example, we can bet on an outcome and instead of money, maybe we bet our time on a chore or some other favor.  Going farther, you can even ask what is money?  Is gambling Bitcoin gambling money?  Is gambling gold gambling money?  I think that in itself is enough to consider this question as answered.  Yes, you can gamble anything, not just money.  You can even gamble things that aren't physical, like time and effort. 

I think in this discussion thread by "money" we mean anything that is of a value. If you put something of a value at stake, that's gambling, but if you don't risk anything, that's not. If you play Zynga Poker on Facebook - you are not gambling, but if you are trading cryptocurrencies, you are. Buying something from an unknown vendor is gambling, in a way, but getting it for free is not.

[Mauser]

If you can win money even without putting money at first then I think yes it can qualify as gambling
Depends on the game too
Poker as an example can be played to make money and won’t be qualified as gambling but as a skill game

On the other hand I wouldn’t be so sure to define something as gambling if you can’t lose money

I think all games where you bet money or have the chance to win money qualify as gambling. This includes poker, even though you only play against other players and there is no casino that plays against you. As long as there is randomness in the games involved it's gambling in my eyes. In poker even the best player in the world is not guaranteed to make a profit every night. That's why the professional players like to play many tables at the same time to increase their number of hands played per hour. When you are dealt AA you can still lose against many other hands, or have everybody fold to your raise. The uncertainty about the future is what classifies it as gambling for me.

[Docnaster]

If you can win money even without putting money at first then I think yes it can qualify as gambling
Depends on the game too
Poker as an example can be played to make money and won’t be qualified as gambling but as a skill game

On the other hand I wouldn’t be so sure to define something as gambling if you can’t lose money

If you can win money with putting you can call it a gambling. I don't think you are correct. I guess you know the games and rounds child board where give away is made. So, if I go to the thread and apply for a draw and after the draw my name is among the winners, have I actually gambled?
I think you must put in something be it money or properties in test of your luck for it to be called gambling.

[Hispo]

If you can win money even without putting money at first then I think yes it can qualify as gambling
Depends on the game too
Poker as an example can be played to make money and won’t be qualified as gambling but as a skill game

On the other hand I wouldn’t be so sure to define something as gambling if you can’t lose money

If you can win money with putting you can call it a gambling. I don't think you are correct. I guess you know the games and rounds child board where give away is made. So, if I go to the thread and apply for a draw and after the draw my name is among the winners, have I actually gambled?
I think you must put in something be it money or properties in test of your luck for it to be called gambling.

I think there was a little misunderstanding, tho.
He meant they it should be called gambling, even though, one as a player did not put any wager and still there is a chance to win money.

I see it this way: if a casino offers a welcome bonus which somehow does not require you to deposit to claim, (let us assume it is a small bonus: 5$) you can still roll dices and spin a roulette with it, get hooked up and earn more because of your luck, so in my opinion, still qualifies as gambling.

[Blitzboy]

If you can win money even without putting money at first then I think yes it can qualify as gambling
Depends on the game too
Poker as an example can be played to make money and won’t be qualified as gambling but as a skill game

On the other hand I wouldn’t be so sure to define something as gambling if you can’t lose money

Without money been at stake it doesn't qualify as gambling because we have so many activities that people can participate in and they're organized by companies for the purpose of promoting their brand. In such activities, you can win cash prizes and you weren't gambling

Some companies organized a lottery system for their customers and they can win by buying more goods from their shopes or making use of the service that he companies are offering. Then they can randomly select winners by using some criteria and gifting them prizes.

I support your thoughts of it been gambling when you can lose money which means there has to be money stakes by one or two persons for you to be able to lose it. Anything that has money stakes can be classified as gambling, you might be playing with another person or computer.

It is compelling to note your clarification regarding the distinction between promotional activities and gambling. However, it seems essential to emphasize that the underlying risk and chance factor in such activities make them somewhat analogous to gambling. Indeed, corporate lotteries and similar promotions might not require a direct financial stake from participants. Still, their transaction with the company – purchasing more goods or using services – essentially becomes an indirect form of staking. Hence, the 'risk' element is preserved, albeit in a camouflaged manner.

Nonetheless, your perspective on the requirement of monetary stakes for an activity to be classified as gambling has merit, and aligns with traditional gambling definitions. The prospect of potential loss undoubtedly amplifies the thrill and uncertainty associated with gambling. Be it against a human or computer, the exciting yet precarious nature of this activity calls for responsible participation.

[capoeira]

there is no free lunch

[LUCKMCFLY]

If I understand what you are saying and you are right, I know that patience can help us a lot, but when we are playing it is obvious that we always want to win, and that desire leads us to a point where we forget patience and the adrenaline starts to exert more force on us, we can get desperate, stressed and forget about what we are willing to spend, that is why the word "self-control" comes out a lot but it is very difficult to control it, the truth is that when patience is combined with "self-control" it is the winning combination for everything, but for us as good humans emotions sometimes play us Wrong and we forget.

So gamblers are so desperate to earn money and they do not have patience. So how would they agree on playing games where there is no money to be earned. This is why it is very much clear that the main purpose of gambling is to earn money and for that you need to spend your money. If we ask gamblers to play games without any incentive of earning, they will simply refuse.
Also, this clears that most people (more than 90% do not gamble for fun, but only gamble for money, Right?

I don't see arresting people who play in makeshift casinos or street games as a crime, the police should take care of the real ruffians, who are the ones who kill, commit crimes, that's what makes them policemen Don't arrest people who are looking for fun and who don't hurt anyone, those are the things that governments and control entities do that don't let others do what they want. In my country, at one time they did those procedures because Casinos were prohibited, and that is something I never agreed with, now casinos are legal as long as they give the government a good cut.

Here again, the police is looking for an easy target, and for them, the gamblers are the easiest target as they do not possess any weapons and they are not trained criminals. If the police go after the real criminals, they will have to make an effort and in some cases, their life may also be in danger when they encounter with the criminals. Sadly police will come after those who are gambling on street games or places where gambling is prohibited.

Well yes, the truth cannot be hidden, I think that most people only play to see if they can have extra money, some do well and I think many do very badly, but that is what the game is about, everything is a risk and those who risk a lot because they don't do very well, I think that in order for a person to be able to risk a lot, they have to have a very strong, very good economic option so that they can resist losses, otherwise I think that an average person What you can do is set aside a very small amount for your fun, it should be just for your fun , because if you want to use the casino as a way to make money , it's the worst thing you Can Do.