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June 27, 2023, 08:35:21 AM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
No, I don't think that it should be called gamble. It is giveaway, predict the future and whoever gets it right is compensated with a price for being smart. Perhaps,this can lure one into gambling because of the free money involved. You can decide to go into gambling because you feel you will have the predictions right. From my understanding gambling needs the gambler to stake some amount of money so that if he fails,he will lose something and if he wins,the he win have a reward. If you don't stake anything and partake in a game that the winner will be rewarded,it is not gambling but encouragement.

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June 27, 2023, 08:43:41 AM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

Absolutely, it can still be called gambling even without money involved. The essence of gambling is staking something of value on an uncertain outcome. Money is often the most common "thing of value," but it could be anything from a prized possession to a person's time. So when playing a game for non-monetary stakes, such as pride, points, or even bragging rights, it can still be considered gambling if there's a risk and uncertainty involved.

Remember, the thrill of gambling comes from the uncertainty, not necessarily the prospect of winning money. Enjoy your games responsibly, whether they involve money or not!

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June 27, 2023, 09:29:43 AM
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But the most important thing before going to play and gamble is the need for real money and or something of value such as an asset to be at stake so that it can be called gambling in its entirety because gambling without something at stake is rather difficult to call it gambling.  Wink
What is certain is that if you don't use money, there is no challenge that people will feel because they can place bets with large amounts of demo money. Gamblers are looking for challenges like that, so it makes them come back for more. But if it's just for fun, they can play without using real money. Well, everyone must desire to gamble or just play without using money or anything that can excite them.

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June 27, 2023, 10:21:58 AM
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it is pretty clear what gambling is: you put YOUR money on the outcome of a totaly random event.
now that is pretty strict, since it does exclude things like poker, sport betting and so on, since there you put money on probabilities.

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June 28, 2023, 06:04:25 AM
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Absolutely, it can still be called gambling even without money involved. The essence of gambling is staking something of value on an uncertain outcome. Money is often the most common "thing of value," but it could be anything from a prized possession to a person's time. So when playing a game for non-monetary stakes, such as pride, points, or even bragging rights, it can still be considered gambling if there's a risk and uncertainty involved.

Remember, the thrill of gambling comes from the uncertainty, not necessarily the prospect of winning money. Enjoy your games responsibly, whether they involve money or not!
What the heck are you talking about? The majority gamble in order to win big money and not for fun or the uncertainty factor. If there is no money involved, it cannot be called gambling at all.

The minority gamble for fun and the uncertainty factor matters to them, but it still can't be called gambling when money isn't involved.

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Absolutely, it can still be called gambling even without money involved. The essence of gambling is staking something of value on an uncertain outcome. Money is often the most common "thing of value," but it could be anything from a prized possession to a person's time. So when playing a game for non-monetary stakes, such as pride, points, or even bragging rights, it can still be considered gambling if there's a risk and uncertainty involved.

Remember, the thrill of gambling comes from the uncertainty, not necessarily the prospect of winning money. Enjoy your games responsibly, whether they involve money or not!
What the heck are you talking about? The majority gamble in order to win big money and not for fun or the uncertainty factor. If there is no money involved, it cannot be called gambling at all.

The minority gamble for fun and the uncertainty factor matters to them, but it still can't be called gambling when money isn't involved.
And I think that just the opposite, more players play for the pleasure of playing and having fun and gambling in their free time.  And in general, almost all people and players are even more well aware of the rule that "the casino never loses."  And those who think that now he will win a lot of money and then more ... And more ... I think they will be disappointed.  And then such a player comes to a sensible idea that what he lost is the price for the pleasure of playing.  But there may be rare cases when a person won a large amount of money and abruptly stopped playing. 
But this is probably a very rare case of sanity during the game.  Smiley

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June 28, 2023, 08:18:02 PM
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Well when we enter a casino we will always seek to win, no matter what we have read, that some do it for fun or entertainment, they will always seek to win, and if not, what remains is the fun, the good time that it has passed, the activation of the adrenaline, and a set of things that always makes us feel when we are in any casino site , the physical casinos give food , drinks , music , everything is an endless number of emotions that make our game more pleasant, and there it is good, if we know how to differentiate between Knowing how to lose and win  , it is because we have great Maturity.

A Gambler can be surfing through the online casino platform without betting and just be navigating through, same way it can be applied to the casino house whereby not everyone there are gambling, some were just spectators while others were being there just to get entertained, others are there busy gambling, yet those not gambling were still found spending money while catching fun but they can't be regarded for gambling since they aren't betting.

Yes, that's one way of looking at it, but generally when a person is new to a casino, they take a look at all the games and they like it, and they want to participate, they want to be a protegist, that's why sometimes there are many who don't know they stand between making a deposit to the casino and making good bets, some people always look for easy games, cards, dice, something like that to warm up, crash, slots, roulette, all this in a casino is what most attracts people, no I can deny that I have always played roulette, and craps, then after a while my interest switched to slots.

With respect to slot machines, it is always good to keep in mind that it is better to choose things very measuredly, not go crazy and always hope for the best, be very patient and only spend what you are allowed to lose, there is no rush, it should not be There will be pressures for the game to be enjoyed.

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June 28, 2023, 09:01:00 PM
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You may call it a contest where those who predict correctly wins the prizes. The difference between this and gambling is that here you are just participating in prediction without investing your own money while in gambling you would invest your own money in order to participate in prediction.
Anyways I do agree that most people will consider these two scenarios as same and will treat both of them as gambling.
The truth for this is that we can refered to them all as gambling  since what most of us understand as gambling is the involvement of a staked amount and since e in both playing inhouse games or making a prediction involve financial  involvmennt with the expectations to win make them all gambling.
So at this point, we cant separate the two from each other and we must align ourselves with that u understanding.

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June 28, 2023, 10:02:50 PM
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You may call it a contest where those who predict correctly wins the prizes. The difference between this and gambling is that here you are just participating in prediction without investing your own money while in gambling you would invest your own money in order to participate in prediction.
Anyways I do agree that most people will consider these two scenarios as same and will treat both of them as gambling.
The truth for this is that we can refered to them all as gambling  since what most of us understand as gambling is the involvement of a staked amount and since e in both playing inhouse games or making a prediction involve financial  involvmennt with the expectations to win make them all gambling.
So at this point, we cant separate the two from each other and we must align ourselves with that u understanding.
all activities that involve a certain amount of money at stake are a form of gambling activity even though the money or capital you get for gambling does not come from your personal pocket or savings, but from bonuses, events that are being held or gifts from other people to you.  but need to pay close attention that usually the free gifts that gambling sites give to you are just a form of inducement so that when you lose, you will unknowingly deposit your money back to the gambling site for gambling capital, nothing is really free in this world.

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June 28, 2023, 10:18:06 PM
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You may call it a contest where those who predict correctly wins the prizes. The difference between this and gambling is that here you are just participating in prediction without investing your own money while in gambling you would invest your own money in order to participate in prediction.
Anyways I do agree that most people will consider these two scenarios as same and will treat both of them as gambling.
The truth for this is that we can refered to them all as gambling  since what most of us understand as gambling is the involvement of a staked amount and since e in both playing inhouse games or making a prediction involve financial  involvmennt with the expectations to win make them all gambling.
So at this point, we cant separate the two from each other and we must align ourselves with that u understanding.
all activities that involve a certain amount of money at stake are a form of gambling activity even though the money or capital you get for gambling does not come from your personal pocket or savings, but from bonuses, events that are being held or gifts from other people to you.  but need to pay close attention that usually the free gifts that gambling sites give to you are just a form of inducement so that when you lose, you will unknowingly deposit your money back to the gambling site for gambling capital, nothing is really free in this world.
Even not in the form of money as long you are staking something then it would really be called gambling but in most cases or situation on which gambling game would really be having that money involvement because
it wont really be called one if there's no something that be at stake. If there is a company which do really give out those kind of offers on which they are really giving out some free picks and having the chance to win up something then this might really be just that promotional or something that cant really be that permanent because it would really be impossible for a company on giving out those free money for nothing and giving out
chances for people to hit up the right spot and make profits and that would really be a huge expense for them.This is why there's no sense that they would be allowing for it to happen since they are running a business
then it would really be just that normal that they would be having promotions but giving out free money or chances? Its really that impossible to last that long.

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almost everybody hear earning someting for the relpies should be the most reveilng answer lol

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But the most important thing before going to play and gamble is the need for real money and or something of value such as an asset to be at stake so that it can be called gambling in its entirety because gambling without something at stake is rather difficult to call it gambling.  Wink
What is certain is that if you don't use money, there is no challenge that people will feel because they can place bets with large amounts of demo money. Gamblers are looking for challenges like that, so it makes them come back for more. But if it's just for fun, they can play without using real money. Well, everyone must desire to gamble or just play without using money or anything that can excite them.
The sad truth is that, only a few people actually plays the demo version of the games if their have the option to play the real game because there is a difference between the two sucne demo games lack some features that are available on the real game because the original game is develop to meet the expectation of bith the casino and the players but demo version is more or less for tutorial and nothing more than that.
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The sad truth is that, only a few people actually plays the demo version of the games if their have the option to play the real game because there is a difference between the two sucne demo games lack some features that are available on the real game because the original game is develop to meet the expectation of bith the casino and the players but demo version is more or less for tutorial and nothing more than that.
I am one of the few who plays demo games. If i feel the need to play slots but i ran out of my weekly budget, i might just play demo versions. That cheats my brain and i for some reason feel more or less the same when playing with real money. At the same time i try to get a handle how much could i get if i was lucky and how much would i lose if unlucky.

I haven't felt the demo versions giving me any more wins then real money which surprises me but i am thankful that they keep the real experience and don't try to lure in with fake high probabilities.

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June 29, 2023, 04:30:11 PM
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But the most important thing before going to play and gamble is the need for real money and or something of value such as an asset to be at stake so that it can be called gambling in its entirety because gambling without something at stake is rather difficult to call it gambling.  Wink
What is certain is that if you don't use money, there is no challenge that people will feel because they can place bets with large amounts of demo money. Gamblers are looking for challenges like that, so it makes them come back for more. But if it's just for fun, they can play without using real money. Well, everyone must desire to gamble or just play without using money or anything that can excite them.
The sad truth is that, only a few people actually plays the demo version of the games if their have the option to play the real game because there is a difference between the two sucne demo games lack some features that are available on the real game because the original game is develop to meet the expectation of bith the casino and the players but demo version is more or less for tutorial and nothing more than that.
Demo versions of games are akin to training wheels on a bicycle. They offer the necessary guidance to get you started, but to truly experience the thrill and challenges of the game, one has to venture into the real version. Just as training wheels can't simulate the balance and agility needed for true cycling, demo games cannot fully capture the intricacies and strategies that real games demand. The human inclination towards meaningful interaction and reward systems often makes the actual game the preferred choice over its demo counterpart.

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June 29, 2023, 05:22:47 PM
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But the most important thing before going to play and gamble is the need for real money and or something of value such as an asset to be at stake so that it can be called gambling in its entirety because gambling without something at stake is rather difficult to call it gambling.  Wink
What is certain is that if you don't use money, there is no challenge that people will feel because they can place bets with large amounts of demo money. Gamblers are looking for challenges like that, so it makes them come back for more. But if it's just for fun, they can play without using real money. Well, everyone must desire to gamble or just play without using money or anything that can excite them.
The sad truth is that, only a few people actually plays the demo version of the games if their have the option to play the real game because there is a difference between the two sucne demo games lack some features that are available on the real game because the original game is develop to meet the expectation of bith the casino and the players but demo version is more or less for tutorial and nothing more than that.
I am one of those people who still gambles using the demo when my funds for gambling have run out.
Playing using the demo mode does not mean that this is gambling but only for entertainment and using the demo mode can be used to find out the types of bets or set strategies before using real bets.

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June 29, 2023, 05:52:27 PM
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I am one of those people who still gamble using the demo when my funds for gambling have run out.
Playing using the demo mode does not mean that this is gambling but only for entertainment and using the demo mode can be used to find out the types of bets or set strategies before using real bets.
There is a clear difference between gambling with the demo version and gambling with money,  even though in the demo version you are given a fake balance to bet with,  it still does not give the utmost experience unless you are gambling just for the fun of it,  but if you want to test your gambling skills or make some winnings.

Using the demo version won't give you exactly what you want or need,  since in the long run,  you have to walk away with nothing knowing you are in a demo mood and can't even make any significant progress in terms of skills and the rest of the what have you.
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June 29, 2023, 06:12:33 PM
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Absolutely, it can still be called gambling even without money involved. The essence of gambling is staking something of value on an uncertain outcome. Money is often the most common "thing of value," but it could be anything from a prized possession to a person's time. So when playing a game for non-monetary stakes, such as pride, points, or even bragging rights, it can still be considered gambling if there's a risk and uncertainty involved.

Remember, the thrill of gambling comes from the uncertainty, not necessarily the prospect of winning money. Enjoy your games responsibly, whether they involve money or not!
What the heck are you talking about? The majority gamble in order to win big money and not for fun or the uncertainty factor. If there is no money involved, it cannot be called gambling at all.

The minority gamble for fun and the uncertainty factor matters to them, but it still can't be called gambling when money isn't involved.
You are right, if there is no money involved, it isn't gambling at all. Gambling means putting something of value at stake in order to win something in return in case you win the bet that you made, and if you lose the bet, you lose what you had on stake, so anything else that doesn't involve these things cannot be considered gambling, even if you are winning something but not losing anything, you can't call that gambling because in gambling you also lose.

Even those who gamble only for fun use money to do it, one cannot gamble with a demo account or free money to have fun because there is no fun in that at all. What's the fun if you hit a big win and don't get anything because you are using a demo account?

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June 29, 2023, 08:57:55 PM
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Absolutely, it can still be called gambling even without money involved. The essence of gambling is staking something of value on an uncertain outcome. Money is often the most common "thing of value," but it could be anything from a prized possession to a person's time. So when playing a game for non-monetary stakes, such as pride, points, or even bragging rights, it can still be considered gambling if there's a risk and uncertainty involved.

Remember, the thrill of gambling comes from the uncertainty, not necessarily the prospect of winning money. Enjoy your games responsibly, whether they involve money or not!
What the heck are you talking about? The majority gamble in order to win big money and not for fun or the uncertainty factor. If there is no money involved, it cannot be called gambling at all.

The minority gamble for fun and the uncertainty factor matters to them, but it still can't be called gambling when money isn't involved.
You are right, if there is no money involved, it isn't gambling at all. Gambling means putting something of value at stake in order to win something in return in case you win the bet that you made, and if you lose the bet, you lose what you had on stake, so anything else that doesn't involve these things cannot be considered gambling, even if you are winning something but not losing anything, you can't call that gambling because in gambling you also lose.

Even those who gamble only for fun use money to do it, one cannot gamble with a demo account or free money to have fun because there is no fun in that at all. What's the fun if you hit a big win and don't get anything because you are using a demo account?
Or simply if there's no something that had been risked out then its not gambling at all and this is why its not really that hard to make out some comparison in between things because even just using up your own
common sense then you would really be able to tell those main differences and not would really be asking with these no sense kind of questions because it could really be answered on your own.

It is really just that there are people who does really love on asking out on something that they do already know. In general then if you arent risking something even not on fiat or physical money form
then it wont really be a gamble. You would really be gambling on something which you do see that you could really be able to benefit into it and this is the time we would really be risking on something
whether it would really be completely lost or would really be getting on the thing that you do want but everything would really be depending or basing up on your luck.

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June 30, 2023, 07:22:48 PM
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But for obvious reasons,  some of the folks who are addicted to this kind on none betting game are higher than those who are actually addicted to real gambling where they have to stake an amount.
I believe what happens is that when there isn't money involved gamblers don't feel the excitement they use to have when betting for real money. When there is nothing to lose and nothing considerable to win the effects on your brain are different. The release of dopamine doesn't happen, your heart doesn't beat faster, you don't get chills. There aren't high expectations regards the outcome, because if winning or losing the bet it won't make any difference on your life.

It's like people say: no pain, no gain, although in gambling I think we could say: no risk, no thrill.
If it is a gambler, they will not find it any challenge as there is no money involved, and it can make them unwilling to continue. But if there is money, they will surely be eager to continue, and this is where the real temptation of gambling lies. And maybe if there weren't any money, prizes, or anything at stake, it wouldn't be gambling but just an ordinary game played by two or more people. And we also have often experienced it and maybe felt the fun playing the game. Like for example, we compete or play games on phones. We don't get money or anything but only find pleasure in playing it.

For any challenge , games or whatever has to do with casinos , it must always be considered that if there is no game there is no Excitement for some people, that is Something that cannot be Changed from one day to the Next, things When it comes to casinos it's Different , you have Interests that make your game monopolize attention, and it's the same essence of winning or losing money , of hitting it and you're the winner, I think that's what Makes Everything come true See so Interesting, when we Play with money that is not real, things can be Boring , but for educational and learning aspects it is what Normally should be done and play with play money.

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June 30, 2023, 07:29:41 PM
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But for obvious reasons,  some of the folks who are addicted to this kind on none betting game are higher than those who are actually addicted to real gambling where they have to stake an amount.
I believe what happens is that when there isn't money involved gamblers don't feel the excitement they use to have when betting for real money. When there is nothing to lose and nothing considerable to win the effects on your brain are different. The release of dopamine doesn't happen, your heart doesn't beat faster, you don't get chills. There aren't high expectations regards the outcome, because if winning or losing the bet it won't make any difference on your life.

It's like people say: no pain, no gain, although in gambling I think we could say: no risk, no thrill.
If it is a gambler, they will not find it any challenge as there is no money involved, and it can make them unwilling to continue. But if there is money, they will surely be eager to continue, and this is where the real temptation of gambling lies. And maybe if there weren't any money, prizes, or anything at stake, it wouldn't be gambling but just an ordinary game played by two or more people. And we also have often experienced it and maybe felt the fun playing the game. Like for example, we compete or play games on phones. We don't get money or anything but only find pleasure in playing it.

For any challenge , games or whatever has to do with casinos , it must always be considered that if there is no game there is no Excitement for some people, that is Something that cannot be Changed from one day to the Next, things When it comes to casinos it's Different , you have Interests that make your game monopolize attention, and it's the same essence of winning or losing money , of hitting it and you're the winner, I think that's what Makes Everything come true See so Interesting, when we Play with money that is not real, things can be Boring , but for educational and learning aspects it is what Normally should be done and play with play money.

what is the category of games that can be classified as educational games,  can we put Crash into such categories because as for me there is nothing educational in playing gambling games if we say for passing time yes I may agree with that since gambling is one of the coolest ways to kill time since cashing fun is always time-consuming.

But then the involvement of money in gambling have really created room for the constant involvement of players since most of them are all in for the winning and money is the motivation.
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