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April 21, 2023, 02:05:03 AM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

You need money to gamble if there's money involved then it's just a game it's safe and you don't have to chase your losses and there's no reason for you to feel depressed, depression of losing money is attached to losing in gambling, you are not losing anything only your time, so there's no reason to treat it as gambling.
But this will gauge your character and your betting skill that will eventually lead you to gamble, so it's not gambling but a training ground for you to eventually gamble.
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April 21, 2023, 03:29:13 AM
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Making a prediction, review, pick a number etc and win some money is called as giveaway.

Get a random number ticket and giving some money on a particular number is called as lottery.

Making a prediction, playing a game where you risk some money to earn more money is called as gambling.

So without money, it's called as giveaway.

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April 21, 2023, 03:31:27 AM
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If the prediction is just a prediction and does not use money, it is not gambling because there is no use of money in it.
But if you just make predictions, it might feel less exciting because there is no challenge factor.
I've never heard of Superpicks before, so I don't really know how interesting it is.
And if you just predict, you will probably place a bet based on your prediction because you want to find something else that will provide more fun.
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April 21, 2023, 06:08:16 AM
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"Select a match, create your ultimate team and win cash prizes EVERYDAY! Choose an upcoming real-life match that you want to play. Use your skills to pick the players you think will perform the best in the match. Follow the match, watch your team climb the leaderboard and win big everyday!" - Source : Superpicks.com

So it is a lot like fantasy football, but you are not actually betting on the games... you simply make a prediction and if your prediction is good, you win money that are being funded by DSTV or one of their sponsors.

I think this is done to introduce people to gambling, without having them actually risking any of their own money. So as soon as they get into it, it is a easy transition to the next thing... which is Sport betting.  Roll Eyes

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April 21, 2023, 08:19:41 AM
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As much as there is nothing to lose then I don't see it as a gambling basically because the concept of gambling is staking and when there is staking involved, then there is risk and from the link you presented, it shows the pick is absolutely free and there is nothing to lose from the angle of the player and the fun and enticement of gambling isn't felt.
I think the games over there are just fantasy sports and merely just for entertainment and that isn't gambling.
Looking from the other hand, there are games that looks competitive but has no monetary attachments and just because a game seems competitive with maybe a prize to win doesn't make it gambling.

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April 21, 2023, 08:21:42 AM
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Simple easy answer. What did you gamble then? So no, it is not gambling. For me, it is only accounted as gambling if we risked something, be it money or other kinds of stuff that has value. If you are playing something that enables you to earn money if you win, that is not gambling. It's like you join contests in sports, games, and other activities without gambling and yet you can earn if you win.

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April 21, 2023, 08:27:46 AM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
You can say gambling if there is something at stake, both money and goods as a means to take advantage of what is done by two parties or more recently, it can be said as gambling, but if there are no goods or money at stake but you get the opportunity to guess or play but you get paid if you win and if you lose you don't charge anything, I think it's not gambling but you can say in other words you are like you are or are going to fish in a river or sea where you don't keep fish there and you only rely on luck to get fish that you never know whether there are fish or not.

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Never heard of it but that is actually nice that  you don't need money to play, I think we can consider it as a competition. Usually in competition you don't need to spend anything right, but in reality you can consider it as gambling as you will take chances though there is no risk the risk I see is wasting your time or spending it on the prediction. But it's really nice that they have that kind of promotion.

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April 21, 2023, 09:46:32 AM
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As much as there is nothing to lose then I don't see it as a gambling basically because the concept of gambling is staking and when there is staking involved, then there is risk and from the link you presented, it shows the pick is absolutely free and there is nothing to lose from the angle of the player and the fun and enticement of gambling isn't felt.
I think the games over there are just fantasy sports and merely just for entertainment and that isn't gambling.
Looking from the other hand, there are games that looks competitive but has no monetary attachments and just because a game seems competitive with maybe a prize to win doesn't make it gambling.

In as much as gambling involves staking, it also involves the risk of uncertainty as an end outcome of an activity one gets him or herself involved as a result of their commitment through finance or otherwise. For gambling to take place there must be a financial commitment or a collateral of good value in place of the estimated value of the money to pay. With this, then you can say or call it gambling and one thing is that you can not determine the end result as it is probably fair enough for transparency and credibility.

Like I said in my previous post, you predicting the end game result does not mean you are gambling. I believe you are just bringing your knowledge and expertise in play for the benefit of others to get a good profits from your prediction or knowledge.

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April 21, 2023, 09:48:56 AM
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Of course not, gambling composed of something that you would risk in order to win something right? but if there's no risk involve than it is just a  free money or free chance to win something good and actually that thing could really attract a lot of players. The only problem they will encounter with this is that they would probably be target of the users who will create many accounts and tried to cheat on this kind of tournament.

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It's showing "Access denied".
Is it a country-specific website? If yes, do you know which ones are restricted?
What I know is that DSTV is located in South Africa and it provides services to countries in Africa.

I have no problem accessing this website even though I'm from the EU - so it's not true that the service is limited to Africa only, although maybe some countries are blocked. What you should pay attention to in case you play and win a prize is that there is a mandatory KYC when paying out the winnings.

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April 21, 2023, 10:30:51 AM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
for me everything related to predictions can be called gambling (for me).
because even if you use free money and you can guess correctly, of course you will make deposits on several gambling sites and make bets or bets.
the prediction site that you listed in this thread can trigger someone who doesn't like gambling to like gambling. after all, even though these predictions are free to get real prizes, it's the same as gambling when you predict for free and earn money if your predictions are correct.

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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

In this, we can say gambling is of two kinds, maybe the one you make use of money and the other you don't but all involves you getting paid for risking your opinion as stake on something, if you look into lotto as well, it is regarded as not gambling because of the nature, anything you stake money for in a bid to predict something and have a better chances of making back your money with extra profit is gambling, also you gamble mostly on sports activities and this may involves use of casinos live or online.



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gambling or not , this is still considered as advantage to those who will participate , this is nothing different to those prediction events here in forum , that the site offers all of us to give prediction in what would be the price of bitcoin or things similar to this and this cannot be considered as gambling because there is nothing bet happened .

Of course not, gambling composed of something that you would risk in order to win something right? but if there's no risk involve than it is just a  free money or free chance to win something good and actually that thing could really attract a lot of players. The only problem they will encounter with this is that they would probably be target of the users who will create many accounts and tried to cheat on this kind of tournament.
But others says that it is about the time? that they are risking mate?

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Making predictions and winning money without using your own money is nothing new online anymore, some crypto exchanges like Huobi and BitGet always do something like this, you might ne be asked to predict what Ethereum price will be tomorrow at a given time and they will give up some USDT, BTC or other altcoins for the winners.

Huobi is very popular for this, but most of their questions is always about price of a token, and predictions without asking a penny from their customers.

Since you are going to predict the price, which is about the future I would say it's nothing but a gamble.

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April 21, 2023, 11:22:59 AM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

If there's no money involve into what you are doing on that site it cannot be called as gambling, It can be categorized as playing where you can earn a prize in return. So there's nothing to worry about that if you are worried for someone who's participating on such prediction game since they cannot be categorized as a gambler in my opinion. Gambling will be consider if there's money involve since you are risking some amount of money but in that situation nothing will be lost to you and its made just for entertainment.

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April 21, 2023, 11:27:57 AM
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you are gambling nothing but a chance to win? how can this be considered as gambling ? we are only using few second of our time to put our prediction so still this is not a gamble .
if we are not putting single amount of money or other important things or at least longer time , then we are not gambling in anyway.
Of course not, gambling composed of something that you would risk in order to win something right?
that is right mate.
so this is not gambling in any way .









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April 21, 2023, 11:32:41 AM
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In my perspective, even if you do not release money while playing, anything associated to the casino is always gambling. It's also a means for others to force you to use their software or play games in order to entice you. The term gambling does not stop there; even if you are not actually gambling, as long as there is no security and the risk is significant, it is still referred to as gambling. It's the same with trading; if you have no knowledge of trading and then enter, you're clearly gambling because you're relying solely on luck.
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April 21, 2023, 11:45:51 AM
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In my perspective, even if you do not release money while playing, anything associated to the casino is always gambling. It's also a means for others to force you to use their software or play games in order to entice you. The term gambling does not stop there; even if you are not actually gambling, as long as there is no security and the risk is significant, it is still referred to as gambling. It's the same with trading; if you have no knowledge of trading and then enter, you're clearly gambling because you're relying solely on luck.
you have a point there , and yeah we may not risking money but our mind is set to expect at least to win so for me this is already a form of gambling?
but in literal way this is not because there are nothing in risk but time.
but it is sad that this offer is only for african people in which I believe that mostly a good kind of advertising to increase their possible supporters .

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