Without money, does it still qualify as gambling?

[STT]

Throwing marbles in a game is gambling, coins against a wall is gambling also even if its just expired coins used.   We used to play cartoon card games where you lose the card if you lose the game, again no money but the card has a value of some kind from almost zero but tiny amount to much more maybe a months wages in equivalence so that too is gambling.

    A few times we can say the tokens only have worth because of the gambling game, its a chicken and egg scenario.
  Theres no way to shut down gambling only be obstructive in some way but people will bet on camels if they want to and win or lose coconuts its a human right to do so imo but not everywhere.

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[khaled0111]

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Unfortunately, it seems most of you guys do not read the previous comments before posting yours! I've said it before and I'll repeat it here: if money or any thing else valuable is at steak then it shouldn't be considered as gambling.
Gamblinf is when you put something valuable at risk, there is a chance to double It or rosev it.

[Betwrong]

What the OP is saying is also a form of gambling, because participating in a game by predicting its future is also gambling. It is also not correct to say that only the game involving money is gambling and all others are not gambling.

Sometimes I used to see the police around my region arresting people publicly playing shot card games and the label it as gambling even though those playing this game don't stake money but the law enforcement agency still categorized it as gambling, so I believe whether or not you stake an amount or just playing for the fun, it all gambling as long as there is a game to contend for the winning unless it sports games if not it all gambling.

Card games are considered illegal in countries where gambling is not legal, causing police to arrest players even if no money is involved. According to the rules of the country, if the card game is considered illegal to play publicly, then the police will arrest the players. I myself have seen many players get arrested just for playing cards in public places, they were just playing the game for entertainment.

Those are strange rules, but if according to the country's laws playing card games publicly is considered illegal, citizens should abide. If most people don't like it, they should do all they can to change the law, or move to another country if they find out that they are the minority. In most places gambling means staking of something of value, but there can be some odd places where anything resembling gambling is illegal too. To me it's like pressing charges on someone for carrying a gun when it's only a children's water gun like this one



saying that it will lead to using real guns in the future.

[slapper]

Throwing marbles in a game is gambling, coins against a wall is gambling also even if its just expired coins used.   We used to play cartoon card games where you lose the card if you lose the game, again no money but the card has a value of some kind from almost zero but tiny amount to much more maybe a months wages in equivalence so that too is gambling.

    A few times we can say the tokens only have worth because of the gambling game, its a chicken and egg scenario.
  Theres no way to shut down gambling only be obstructive in some way but people will bet on camels if they want to and win or lose coconuts its a human right to do so imo but not everywhere.

In essence, gambling is risking something of value for a payoff that is impossible to predict. The stakes could be as unusual as a meme rather than hard currency.

That friend of yours is spot on. A wager on a camel racing can be considered gambling if we use this definition. The potential for bigger gain is secondary to the excitement of taking a chance. It's still important to maintain a level of humour and common sense. Keep in mind that this is all in jest.

[Desmong]

Carefulness is very important as a gambler so that we are not going to end up losing big to casinos on the way we choose to bet.
I like using bonus to bet on casinos and making some good amount of profits since I always do make loses with my money that is why any bonus spinning I get used to give me good profits.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Carefulness is very important as a gambler so that we are not going to end up losing big to casinos on the way we choose to bet.
I like using bonus to bet on casinos and making some good amount of profits since I always do make loses with my money that is why any bonus spinning I get used to give me good profits.

The discussion is not about carefulness in gambling or related to that at all, op is asking that if you do not stake any money on a game you are playing, maybe you and your friends are playing a card game, and you guys did not stake any money, would you still consider that as a gambling?

I want to believe you did not even read the op before making this comment, as I see it to be totally off topic, your comment can easily get deleted by the mod if reported, I will just advice you to always read the op before making a comment, so that you don't go making comments that is totally off topic from what is being discussed.

[coinerer]

If there's nothing on the line then it's not gambling.

Sure mate, what make is a gamble is when there is a stake on the line, this is what most people done to understand and they think that just getting involved in games is all gambling and that is not true because there is nogamblingsf nothing to lose, quite alright we can spend our time in playing game like ludo cheese and I'm the rest but we can't gamble with time, we only gamble by staking money so without money there is indeed no gambling.

Without staking your money or properties, it should not be called gambling. For it to be called gambling you should be ganing or losing something. Atleast this is my layman's understanding of gambling as it happens in my country and online across the globe.
There could be a different scenario if some will argue from the higher stand that someone is investing his time in that kind of DSTV super picks game.
Well, if there is something you ought to do with your time and then you left it to play the dstv game, will it be counted that you stakes your time?

Yes, a normal game can be considered gambling when there is money wagered on it. For example, LUDO is a family game but when one party plays against another party and bets are placed and money is exchanged, it is also considered as gambling. Thus betting on any game is called gambling.  So it is accepted that it cannot be considered as gambling if there is no monetary wager

[Wiwo]

Carefulness is very important as a gambler so that we are not going to end up losing big to casinos on the way we choose to bet.
I like using bonus to bet on casinos and making some good amount of profits since I always do make loses with my money that is why any bonus spinning I get used to give me good profits.

The discussion is not about carefulness in gambling or related to that at all, op is asking that if you do not stake any money on a game you are playing, maybe you and your friends are playing a card game, and you guys did not stake any money, would you still consider that as a gambling?

I believe the user Desmong just made this comment just to fill the post quarter for signature campaign without reading through the thread and what discussion have already been established, because this comment is totally off-topic and unconnected to what the discussion has been here.

Back to the topic of discussion, I think for clarity's sake we need to separate the two terms from each other that is, playing games just for fun vs playing to win the staked amount and what we make of them, either to call it gambling or just cashing fun.

[Newlifebtc]

Carefulness is very important as a gambler so that we are not going to end up losing big to casinos on the way we choose to bet.
I like using bonus to bet on casinos and making some good amount of profits since I always do make loses with my money that is why any bonus spinning I get used to give me good profits.

No matter the level of your cheerfulness and gambling you must experience a lot in gambling because I know that gambling is not a game of accurate prediction or a game that you can learn it features very well it is a game that come with luck so I want to tell you that that is how gambling or Brett gambling does not operate based on your knowledge on gambling at agame.com by the grace for you to be a winner in any gambling it is not a sure game that you can believe on and also trust that you have made it

[Ebede]

Money must be involved in gambling be it directly or indirectly, it is important to note that you have to use your money to bet either you loss or you win that's what makes you a gambler, something must be at stake for it to be gambling if not is not gambling, you most have something that you may loss before you call it gambling.

[Newlifebtc]

Money must be involved in gambling be it directly or indirectly, it is important to note that you have to use your money to bet either you loss or you win that's what makes you a gambler, something must be at stake for it to be gambling if not is not gambling, you most have something that you may loss before you call it gambling.

you are on the right track there is no gambling that does not deal with money and you must to use money before you gamble and they make your profit in gambling elder you lose or you can so money is activation energy of gambling whoever that want to tell you that he doesn't gamble with money that person is telling lie is putting people around him on through so I want to educate you and also encourage others that gambling this with money

[LUCKMCFLY]

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Well when we enter a casino we will always seek to win, no matter what we have read, that some do it for fun or entertainment, they will always seek to win, and if not, what remains is the fun, the good time that it has passed, the activation of the adrenaline, and a set of things that always makes us feel when we are in any casino site , the physical casinos give food , drinks , music , everything is an endless number of emotions that make our game more pleasant, and there it is good, if we know how to differentiate between Knowing how to lose and win  , it is because we have great Maturity.

[ethereumhunter]

The police can easily plant evidence on everyone they see playing gambling, especially if the goal of the police is to arrest everyone who gambles in that place. And while people may hide their money in their pockets or elsewhere, the police can find them. That's what makes me wonder

I think they think that playing in public is still okay and safe from police raids but after information about this gambling activity disturbed the public, the police came and arrested the people. Maybe it's better that they have a place to gamble that people don't know about so they can feel safe.

In countries where gambling is not legal, gamblers may be arrested if new law enforcement officers see them gambling in public. Moreover, even where gambling is legal, street gambling activities will also be treated as a punishable offence.

Maybe that's what makes gamblers in countries that prohibit gambling gamble in hidden places that law enforcement officials won't detect. And that also makes many underground casinos operated by individuals who want to get a lot of money. After all, sometimes, if gambling were gray in one country, law enforcement officials would warn the public not to play cards with money or bet on sporting events.

[Doan9269]

Well when we enter a casino we will always seek to win, no matter what we have read, that some do it for fun or entertainment, they will always seek to win, and if not, what remains is the fun, the good time that it has passed, the activation of the adrenaline, and a set of things that always makes us feel when we are in any casino site , the physical casinos give food , drinks , music , everything is an endless number of emotions that make our game more pleasant, and there it is good, if we know how to differentiate between Knowing how to lose and win  , it is because we have great Maturity.

A Gambler can be surfing through the online casino platform without betting and just be navigating through, same way it can be applied to the casino house whereby not everyone there are gambling, some were just spectators while others were being there just to get entertained, others are there busy gambling, yet those not gambling were still found spending money while catching fun but they can't be regarded for gambling since they aren't betting.

[rojan]

If there's nothing on the line then it's not gambling.

Sure mate, what make is a gamble is when there is a stake on the line, this is what most people done to understand and they think that just getting involved in games is all gambling and that is not true because there is nogamblingsf nothing to lose, quite alright we can spend our time in playing game like ludo cheese and I'm the rest but we can't gamble with time, we only gamble by staking money so without money there is indeed no gambling.

Without staking your money or properties, it should not be called gambling. For it to be called gambling you should be ganing or losing something. Atleast this is my layman's understanding of gambling as it happens in my country and online across the globe.
There could be a different scenario if some will argue from the higher stand that someone is investing his time in that kind of DSTV super picks game.
Well, if there is something you ought to do with your time and then you left it to play the dstv game, will it be counted that you stakes your time?

Yes, a normal game can be considered gambling when there is money wagered on it. For example, LUDO is a family game but when one party plays against another party and bets are placed and money is exchanged, it is also considered as gambling. Thus betting on any game is called gambling.  So it is accepted that it cannot be considered as gambling if there is no monetary wager

Yes I see many people are gambling through LUDO game. But I was addicted to LUDO game for some days. I bet with my friend through LUDO game. I could not win much in the game that's why I quit playing LUDO.Among the many things that can be bet on, one of the popular ones is the cricket game. I am more addicted to betting on the cricket game.I like to bet on cricket.

[Wiwo]

A Gambler can be surfing through the online casino platform without betting and just be navigating through, same way it can be applied to the casino house whereby not everyone there are gambling, some were just spectators while others were being there just to get entertained, others are there busy gambling, yet those not gambling were still found spending money while catching fun but they can't be regarded for gambling since they aren't betting.

At some point when you mentioned online and spectators it becomes clear that you may have misunderstood the two terms to be able to cohabit and be used in a sentence or discussions,  this is why we have to break down some few point to give better understanding of the terms,  online casinos doesn't allow for spectators,  the physical casino house may allow that but in online casinos,  one need to be part of the game to get log in to the session and as long as you balance keep replenishing you will stay in the game but as soon as it get exusted you session get terminated.

This is one thing we must get clear to help us have a better discussions,  but along the way you made a very good point on the involvement of money at some point because to enter the physical casino you will need to pay for tickets and that alone is spending as a spectator.

[piebeyb]

Money must be involved in gambling be it directly or indirectly, it is important to note that you have to use your money to bet either you loss or you win that's what makes you a gambler, something must be at stake for it to be gambling if not is not gambling, you most have something that you may loss before you call it gambling.

Actually gambling doesn't have to be with real money either because there's a lot that can be at stake besides money, for example in the form of assets or favorite things and so on, that's why the OP said whether it can be called gambling if there is no real money or money, I say YES even using fake money it can be said to be gambling because putting something at stake does not have to be real money because I have gambled also with fake money.

Money has always been the main subject in the world of gambling and where all online casinos as well as land-based casinos and other gambling platforms use money and do not use anything else, because money is something of value to anyone for bookies and gamblers.

[Mr.suevie]

If there's nothing on the line then it's not gambling.

Sure mate, what make is a gamble is when there is a stake on the line, this is what most people done to understand and they think that just getting involved in games is all gambling and that is not true because there is nogamblingsf nothing to lose, quite alright we can spend our time in playing game like ludo cheese and I'm the rest but we can't gamble with time, we only gamble by staking money so without money there is indeed no gambling.

Hmm but I beg the differ on this, because I have come to realize this afternoon when I was playing some card games with my wife that  gamble can still be done without staking cash but a challenge would somehow replace it. Like the game we played, we had to bet that anyone who losses would have to cook evening food for the whole week for the other partner and we began the card games and luckily for I came out victorious and she had to succum to it but it was really not much of any difference since she is still the one taking care of that aspect

[lienfaye]

If there's nothing on the line then it's not gambling.

Sure mate, what make is a gamble is when there is a stake on the line, this is what most people done to understand and they think that just getting involved in games is all gambling and that is not true because there is nogamblingsf nothing to lose, quite alright we can spend our time in playing game like ludo cheese and I'm the rest but we can't gamble with time, we only gamble by staking money so without money there is indeed no gambling.

Hmm but I beg the differ on this, because I have come to realize this afternoon when I was playing some card games with my wife that  gamble can still be done without staking cash but a challenge would somehow replace it. Like the game we played, we had to bet that anyone who losses would have to cook evening food for the whole week for the other partner and we began the card games and luckily for I came out victorious and she had to succum to it but it was really not much of any difference since she is still the one taking care of that aspect

Well for me it can't be considered as gambling because nothing is at stake if ever you lose, it's just a friendly bet, more on a challenge as you've said. I also tried this kind of challenge with my sister, instead of money we're betting on who's the one who will do the household chores through playing chess. Unfortunately I always lose because my sister is quite good in it, back on the days gadgets and having an internet are not yet popular. Anyway, it's been said many times here, when there's no money or valuable things are at stake, it's not gambling.

[Wiwo]

Well for me it can't be considered as gambling because nothing is at stake if ever you lose, it's just a friendly bet, more on a challenge as you've said. I also tried this kind of challenge with my sister, instead of money we're betting on who's the one who will do the household chores through playing chess. Unfortunately I always lose because my sister is quite good in it, back on the days gadgets and having an internet are not yet popular. Anyway, it's been said many times here, when there's no money or valuable things are at stake, it's not gambling.

Yes because gambling has to do with bets and potential winning so anything outside that is no longer gambling,  if you play simple and popular games with friends such as ludo,  wots and draft games there all just traditional fun games and can not be categorized under gambling unless the players involved decide to stake money on the game that the only we can refer to it as gambling,  so what makes gambling to be referred to as such is the staked amount that is out for the contest and possibly being won.

But for obvious reasons,  some of the folks who are addicted to this kind on none betting game are higher than those who are actually addicted to real gambling where they have to stake an amount.