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April 11, 2024, 04:05:13 PM
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What do you think is wrong in having a 65 yr old man gamble? People that are in their 80s still gamble as the only limitation for someone to gamble is if you’re underage(mostly below the age of 18).
While I think this particular individual actions are deplorable, I see nothing wrong with a 65 yr old gambling responsibly at the casino.
People who have a problem gambling responsibly have done and probably would still do crazy things in a bid to get money. And such individuals, having accumulated a shit load of debts would cook up crazy ideas to get money and pay off their debts.
Of course there is no harm for those who are old and still gambling as long as they can gamble responsibly and I agree with what you say that the limit someone can gamble is only for those who are not more than 18 years old because for them have not been able to manage their gambling well and this will make their parents responsible for what they do, so it is important for those who have not reached the age of more than 18 years.

If someone does something crazy about gambling, of course they will continue to experience financial problems and they will of course have a lot of debt and also have difficulty paying it off because they keep hoping to get a big win that can enable them to pay off the debt they have, but it is very difficult to do so. win if you continue to gamble irresponsibly.

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April 11, 2024, 04:07:02 PM
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That grandfather's a fool. At his age, you should have your own vegetable garden, grow fresh fruits and vegetables, enjoy fishing, hunting, traveling to other countries. Take grandchildren to visit, to help his family, not to gamble. We all know that in many countries at such an old age it is not recommended to drive a car as it is associated with high risks. What this grandfather was hoping for by gambling is not quite clear to me. Probably he wanted to make a big score and immediately die from an overabundance of dopamine.

The idea of a ransom for his granddaughter seems absurd to me. I think this grandfather needs to be treated.
That's right, of course everyone who is addicted will of course have a bad impact on themselves so this will be very detrimental to themselves and some even harm other people because of their addiction to gambling and for those who are old and still continue to do so. gambling, of course, this will be very difficult for those closest to them if that person does not have an income and even though they have an income, of course this is still not good because we often see someone who loses in a bet, they will not be able to control their emotions and it is very unfortunate if The person is old and emotions will certainly cause disease for them.
Regret is always at the end, people do changed when they had already messed up and thats a usual case. Gambling business was so profitable on which this is the main reason on why it is that something
making huge revenue due to that very common gambler behavior. They would really be that having that kind of impulsive approach and feeling towards gambling specially on making money.
Once this thing is on your mind then the main thing that you do have or priority is to play no matter what.

There is no regret in the first; everything is always in the last. As long as there was an addiction, that's not normal anymore, to be honest. When we know that there is an addiction
that has formed in our personality, we should immediately start reducing it, as long as we can control it.

Because when the addiction gets worse, it will be difficult for us to quit in the end, and we will need the help of others close to us, either our own family or close friends.



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April 12, 2024, 08:30:33 AM
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I'm not quite sure why you would want poor neighborhoods to not have casinos. In my opinion a rich person can afford a lot more entertainment than a poor person. Keeping a poor person from gambling is not a very fair solution even if you think that his level of education and financial literacy does not allow him to manage his money properly. In addition, a rich gambler to get emotions must make a bet of $100, and a poor gambler is enough to make a bet of $1 and he will experience similar emotions.   

Oh, if it were like this! If it were like you said, I would wholeheartedly support placing slot machines and some other gambling facilities in the poor neighborhoods. But unfortunately  if you are uneducated, more often than not, it's never enough for you to win couple of dollars. You want to win really a lot, thinking that big money can bring you happiness, and thus you risk a lot, and often you lose it. Maybe it wouldn't look like a big amount for a rich person, but for you it's all you have.

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April 12, 2024, 09:01:56 AM
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The only way is conquering oneself. Accept, be ready to stop the bad habit. Getting addicted to gambling  will ruin your emotional health, relationships and your Finances.

Moderation should be priortize in gambling to safeguard you from possible disasters that come with addiction. Expectations and chasing gain  without limit and self discipline is what leads to addiction in gambling.  We need to educate beginners and those who have interest about the reality in gambling.


A person who is addicted to gambling and participates in gambling must suffer most of the losses. Because the addict is less likely to win because he doesn't know how to strategize. When a person gambles if he uses strategies then he is likely to win eventually, although gambling is not always about strategy but about luck. However, there are many ways to win gambling games, so if you adopt strategies, you will have a higher chance of winning.

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April 12, 2024, 11:38:07 AM
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What do you think is wrong in having a 65 yr old man gamble? People that are in their 80s still gamble as the only limitation for someone to gamble is if you’re underage(mostly below the age of 18).
While I think this particular individual actions are deplorable, I see nothing wrong with a 65 yr old gambling responsibly at the casino.
People who have a problem gambling responsibly have done and probably would still do crazy things in a bid to get money. And such individuals, having accumulated a shit load of debts would cook up crazy ideas to get money and pay off their debts.
Of course there is no harm for those who are old and still gambling as long as they can gamble responsibly and I agree with what you say that the limit someone can gamble is only for those who are not more than 18 years old because for them have not been able to manage their gambling well and this will make their parents responsible for what they do, so it is important for those who have not reached the age of more than 18 years.

If someone does something crazy about gambling, of course they will continue to experience financial problems and they will of course have a lot of debt and also have difficulty paying it off because they keep hoping to get a big win that can enable them to pay off the debt they have, but it is very difficult to do so. win if you continue to gamble irresponsibly.

I guess that argument is true, continue playing irresponsibly will only lead you to lose more and in terms of financial capabilities once you lose everything you'll do something that unusual like loaning money or selling your valuable items, and if you lose again the next resort is doing something that unexpectedly, something like doing crimes or begging for money to continue your gambling activities.

Though there are responsible gambler who knows how to quit but most of the time, there are more gambler who are not, they push more even they continue losing money.

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April 12, 2024, 02:43:05 PM
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What do you think is wrong in having a 65 yr old man gamble? People that are in their 80s still gamble as the only limitation for someone to gamble is if you’re underage(mostly below the age of 18).
While I think this particular individual actions are deplorable, I see nothing wrong with a 65 yr old gambling responsibly at the casino.
People who have a problem gambling responsibly have done and probably would still do crazy things in a bid to get money. And such individuals, having accumulated a shit load of debts would cook up crazy ideas to get money and pay off their debts.
Of course there is no harm for those who are old and still gambling as long as they can gamble responsibly and I agree with what you say that the limit someone can gamble is only for those who are not more than 18 years old because for them have not been able to manage their gambling well and this will make their parents responsible for what they do, so it is important for those who have not reached the age of more than 18 years.

If someone does something crazy about gambling, of course they will continue to experience financial problems and they will of course have a lot of debt and also have difficulty paying it off because they keep hoping to get a big win that can enable them to pay off the debt they have, but it is very difficult to do so. win if you continue to gamble irresponsibly.

I guess that argument is true, continue playing irresponsibly will only lead you to lose more and in terms of financial capabilities once you lose everything you'll do something that unusual like loaning money or selling your valuable items, and if you lose again the next resort is doing something that unexpectedly, something like doing crimes or begging for money to continue your gambling activities.

Though there are responsible gambler who knows how to quit but most of the time, there are more gambler who are not, they push more even they continue losing money.

some people will be able to draw a line sooner or later and then respect their limits
but those who can't are slowly (or sometimes fast) walking in the direction of ruin
that's really sad to see, true. these people need help, nobody should take a loan to gamble and gamble more than they can afford to lose

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April 12, 2024, 02:54:16 PM
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I'm not quite sure why you would want poor neighborhoods to not have casinos. In my opinion a rich person can afford a lot more entertainment than a poor person. Keeping a poor person from gambling is not a very fair solution even if you think that his level of education and financial literacy does not allow him to manage his money properly. In addition, a rich gambler to get emotions must make a bet of $100, and a poor gambler is enough to make a bet of $1 and he will experience similar emotions.   

Oh, if it were like this! If it were like you said, I would wholeheartedly support placing slot machines and some other gambling facilities in the poor neighborhoods. But unfortunately  if you are uneducated, more often than not, it's never enough for you to win couple of dollars. You want to win really a lot, thinking that big money can bring you happiness, and thus you risk a lot, and often you lose it. Maybe it wouldn't look like a big amount for a rich person, but for you it's all you have.

It’s great to think about providing entertainment options like gambling in poorer neighborhoods as a way to offer equal recreational opportunities. Gambling can indeed be thrilling and serve as a leisure activity when managed responsibly. However, it’s also crucial to ensure that such facilities don’t lead to financial distress for individuals who might already be vulnerable. Striking a balance by implementing safeguards, like betting limits and financial education, can help ensure that gambling remains a source of fun without becoming a financial burden. This way, we can maintain the positive aspects of gambling as entertainment while protecting those most at risk.
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April 12, 2024, 04:46:03 PM
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The only way is conquering oneself. Accept, be ready to stop the bad habit. Getting addicted to gambling  will ruin your emotional health, relationships and your Finances.

Moderation should be priortize in gambling to safeguard you from possible disasters that come with addiction. Expectations and chasing gain  without limit and self discipline is what leads to addiction in gambling.  We need to educate beginners and those who have interest about the reality in gambling.


Moderation is key, as you mentioned. It’s essential to set limits for oneself not just in terms of how much money to wager, but also how much time to spend gambling. It’s about balancing the thrill with responsibility and recognizing when it stops being fun and starts becoming a problem.

Educating beginners and interested parties about these realities is vital. By spreading awareness about the risks and responsible gambling practices, we can help prevent the negative impacts of gambling addiction. This kind of education could greatly benefit from personal stories, statistics, and professional guidance to provide a full picture of the gambling landscape.

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April 12, 2024, 08:30:51 PM
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Gambling addicts are getting lesser support because of the difficulty in identifying the early signs of addiction in a player not close to us. Help is only rendered when needed or virtually proven signs is made available. When an addict doesn't show or open up his problems to people around him it's quite hard to figure out his addictive behaviors. Since it's mostly done online, his funds are not being tracked by his acquittances. In society today, many gamblers don't recognize the early gambling symptoms in them, making the identification process very difficult, or the need to help an addict. That's why gamblers must focus on not finding themselves in a condition as difficult as problem gambling.

The healing process is quite very hard to find out by an outside body, unless told, in most cases, especially at the early stages. That's why most helping hands may have not been recorded on behalf of gamblers. Even in environments where gambling addiction strives, it's strenuous getting an addict to therapy. Many addicts when in therapy make the task burdensome for the therapist, due to the difficulty in curing gambling addiction. Unsteady attendance to therapy sessions delays quick recovery. And many addicts find it hard to comply with their therapist, by making it to their therapy sessions.
Gambling addiction's a serious issue. Some folks get caught up in it, and we need to help 'em out. The best way to do that is by spotting the warning signs early. Its about noticing changes - more money going out, changes in mood, that kind of thing. Its about being smart, preventive.

Now, the support system we have right now? Frankly, its not good enough. Its inadequate, needs a serious upgrade. Folks need practical strategies, not just empty promises. Therapy's part of it, but we need to make it accessible, make it work for the people who need it most.

We need a revolution in how we think about gambling. We need to make it safe, responsible, with safeguards to help folks who slip up. Its possible, believe me. Its not just about the money, its about protecting people, giving them a fair chance to beat this. We can make gambling great again, the right way.

I fully understand the need to reach out to problem gamblers, because of the emotional struggle they're undergoing each day. It's not a simple task for the helper either. But with awareness and preventive provisions for newbie players, it could be achieved. The other problem would be how could this be circulated among all the gamblers in the world. It's a big challenge for the gambling niche. Yes, I strongly accept that it's achievable. Given time newbie players can adjust to the advice of people around them or make it open to their loved ones that he's now into gambling. Hence, making it simple for them to watch him closely, and be able to detect any new behavioral change in his life. However, time plays a vital role in such a development or change.

Not every player, due to the stigma placed on gamblers, is comfortable sharing with others about his gambling habit or addictive problems. I think the gambling community online has work to do, by building a strong awareness for players to discuss their problems online with other experienced players. These could be a bit helpful, but not compared to facial therapy with a loved one or a therapist. In a nutshell, what is most important is starting from somewhere. Other than leaving the addict to undergo the stress alone, with no helper at his disposal.

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April 12, 2024, 09:19:07 PM
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Oh, if it were like this! If it were like you said, I would wholeheartedly support placing slot machines and some other gambling facilities in the poor neighborhoods. But unfortunately  if you are uneducated, more often than not, it's never enough for you to win couple of dollars. You want to win really a lot, thinking that big money can bring you happiness, and thus you risk a lot, and often you lose it. Maybe it wouldn't look like a big amount for a rich person, but for you it's all you have.

It’s great to think about providing entertainment options like gambling in poorer neighborhoods as a way to offer equal recreational opportunities. Gambling can indeed be thrilling and serve as a leisure activity when managed responsibly. However, it’s also crucial to ensure that such facilities don’t lead to financial distress for individuals who might already be vulnerable. Striking a balance by implementing safeguards, like betting limits and financial education, can help ensure that gambling remains a source of fun without becoming a financial burden. This way, we can maintain the positive aspects of gambling as entertainment while protecting those most at risk.

Although I quite agree with your idea of taking some precautions for the sake of safety and also to help people experience the positive benefits of gambling which is fun but I think overall providing gambling entertainment to the poor or anyone else is too risky an idea, the logic is that if there are enough other forms of entertainment that can be chosen to be provided then why should it be gambling? I'm sure we all know about the worst risks involved in gambling, therefore it is not the right idea to provide entertainment that is full of risks to others.

What concerns me is the concern that if they don't follow through on some of the things that lead to prevention that the end result can be very fatal which is very possible for them to become addicted because in gambling the aspect of entertainment and fun can turn into stress and tension which can change a person's mind, so basically providing a form of entertainment such as gambling to others is like you are taking someone to the edge of the cliff.

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April 12, 2024, 10:01:48 PM
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I'm not quite sure why you would want poor neighborhoods to not have casinos. In my opinion a rich person can afford a lot more entertainment than a poor person. Keeping a poor person from gambling is not a very fair solution even if you think that his level of education and financial literacy does not allow him to manage his money properly. In addition, a rich gambler to get emotions must make a bet of $100, and a poor gambler is enough to make a bet of $1 and he will experience similar emotions.  

Oh, if it were like this! If it were like you said, I would wholeheartedly support placing slot machines and some other gambling facilities in the poor neighborhoods. But unfortunately  if you are uneducated, more often than not, it's never enough for you to win couple of dollars. You want to win really a lot, thinking that big money can bring you happiness, and thus you risk a lot, and often you lose it. Maybe it wouldn't look like a big amount for a rich person, but for you it's all you have.

It’s great to think about providing entertainment options like gambling in poorer neighborhoods as a way to offer equal recreational opportunities. Gambling can indeed be thrilling and serve as a leisure activity when managed responsibly. However, it’s also crucial to ensure that such facilities don’t lead to financial distress for individuals who might already be vulnerable. Striking a balance by implementing safeguards, like betting limits and financial education, can help ensure that gambling remains a source of fun without becoming a financial burden. This way, we can maintain the positive aspects of gambling as entertainment while protecting those most at risk.
After all, it will be always up to each individual to decide what to do towards the offers disponible to him. Nowadays gambling is disponible for everyone, being the person a rich or poor individual. You can't ensure someone financially vulnerable won't get addicted and waste all his money gambling, because in the end it will be up to his free will to decide going through this route or not. All we can do is to advise, work on prevention through education, as you mentioned, so we can try enlighting those individuals on what they can expect from gambling, how they should treat it, how it works for real and how they can adopt gambling for their lives in a functional and responsible manner.

However, I'm not sure if there should be betting limits and restrictions accordingly to the income of the gambler. To give people different rights based on how much money they make sounds like they are being treated like children who can't take their own decisions and learn through their own mistakes.

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April 12, 2024, 10:27:55 PM
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I'm not quite sure why you would want poor neighborhoods to not have casinos. In my opinion a rich person can afford a lot more entertainment than a poor person. Keeping a poor person from gambling is not a very fair solution even if you think that his level of education and financial literacy does not allow him to manage his money properly. In addition, a rich gambler to get emotions must make a bet of $100, and a poor gambler is enough to make a bet of $1 and he will experience similar emotions.   

Oh, if it were like this! If it were like you said, I would wholeheartedly support placing slot machines and some other gambling facilities in the poor neighborhoods. But unfortunately  if you are uneducated, more often than not, it's never enough for you to win couple of dollars. You want to win really a lot, thinking that big money can bring you happiness, and thus you risk a lot, and often you lose it. Maybe it wouldn't look like a big amount for a rich person, but for you it's all you have.
I think madnessteat was talking about emotions and not end game of it, or what is enough in the end, as to an addict for example nothing is enough.

Both, rich and poor want to win big, but that "big" has a different meaning, richer or poorer you are.
And if both rich and poor want same level of excitement, they need to scale their bets accordingly to their wealth. Rich people don't see $200 as a huge win as that just might be their one bet. While people playing with $0.20 bets probably see it huge and get way more emotions from that.

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April 13, 2024, 01:34:39 AM
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some people will be able to draw a line sooner or later and then respect their limits
but those who can't are slowly (or sometimes fast) walking in the direction of ruin
that's really sad to see, true. these people need help, nobody should take a loan to gamble and gamble more than they can afford to lose

Yeah, that's the art of gambling. Same with other vices like alcohol.

People that do these things need to know when to stop. Otherwise the vice takes their lives in the end.

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April 13, 2024, 04:07:58 PM
 #2074

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some people will be able to draw a line sooner or later and then respect their limits
but those who can't are slowly (or sometimes fast) walking in the direction of ruin
that's really sad to see, true. these people need help, nobody should take a loan to gamble and gamble more than they can afford to lose

Yeah, that's the art of gambling. Same with other vices like alcohol.

People that do these things need to know when to stop. Otherwise the vice takes their lives in the end.

I just hope that over time people become aware of these types of things, many like the casino and the casino is for fun, to win some money if you're lucky, but there may be times when people get very insistent because everything varies. , because that's where the problems begin because they always want to win and they always want more, so if the person does not have money available only for the casino, they will start using money that does not belong nor should it belong just to quench their thirst for gambling, that is very bad , because there comes a time when the person forgets the value of money and begins to spend and spend until they have no control, then in view of that a complete addiction can be generated, and that is what causes madness in people because they want taking money from anywhere, selling, or doing things they shouldn't.

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April 13, 2024, 05:20:42 PM
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I just hope that over time people become aware of these types of things, many like the casino and the casino is for fun, to win some money if you're lucky, but there may be times when people get very insistent because everything varies. , because that's where the problems begin because they always want to win and they always want more, so if the person does not have money available only for the casino, they will start using money that does not belong nor should it belong just to quench their thirst for gambling, that is very bad , because there comes a time when the person forgets the value of money and begins to spend and spend until they have no control, then in view of that a complete addiction can be generated, and that is what causes madness in people because they want taking money from anywhere, selling, or doing things they shouldn't.

Basically, a casino is a means of entertainment where people who come to the casino have to have fun by spending a certain amount of money and don't expect to get anything in return. if we expect a reward in return, of course that's not true, if this happens, we can become determined to want to win, but this will only make us addicted to gambling and lose more money, it's not surprising that many people experience big losses. This may be because they insist on winning at gambling, but they don't realize that gambling is not a means of making sure wins or money.

when they hope wrongly in gambling then what will happen is only problems, if they hope too much of course it will make them addicted to gambling, and with that which will lead them to bigger losses by chasing wins they will lose a lot of money and maybe it can make all their money run out, but if they are addicted then it is true that there is a possibility that they will use money that is not theirs, such as borrowing or worse stealing, gambling addiction can cause the destruction of life, also in my opinion there have been many cases of the destruction of life because it is gambling excessively.,

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April 13, 2024, 05:50:14 PM
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I just hope that over time people become aware of these types of things, many like the casino and the casino is for fun, to win some money if you're lucky, but there may be times when people get very insistent because everything varies. , because that's where the problems begin because they always want to win and they always want more, so if the person does not have money available only for the casino, they will start using money that does not belong nor should it belong just to quench their thirst for gambling, that is very bad , because there comes a time when the person forgets the value of money and begins to spend and spend until they have no control, then in view of that a complete addiction can be generated, and that is what causes madness in people because they want taking money from anywhere, selling, or doing things they shouldn't.
If they're lucky, they can wins but most people will not wins easily as they will loses their money in a short time. But that doesn't stops them from playing gambling in the next days because they will comes back to gambling and playing different gambling games. Yes, people becomes very insistent, especially if they lose their money. They will trying to recovers their lost and gets their money back no matter if they spend more money but that will not easy for them because they can lose all of their money without winning back their money. So that's why people must thinks twice to spends much money to playing gambling because the risk of losing their money will be bigger. If they can thinks about how much they can lose, they will not trying to use big money instead just use enough money to playing gambling. When they lose, they will not becomes angry or sad because they already knows that playing gambling using more money can gives them big lose.

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April 13, 2024, 07:17:47 PM
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some people will be able to draw a line sooner or later and then respect their limits
but those who can't are slowly (or sometimes fast) walking in the direction of ruin
that's really sad to see, true. these people need help, nobody should take a loan to gamble and gamble more than they can afford to lose

Yeah, that's the art of gambling. Same with other vices like alcohol.

People that do these things need to know when to stop. Otherwise the vice takes their lives in the end.
There are many cases of the madness of gamblers, they are usually always quick to make crazy decisions which cause them harm in the future, it is difficult to stop people like this even though they actually need help, as you also said, this is the art of gambling, no one can stop the game Unless he himself wants to stop gambling, it is difficult to advise gambling addicts who are crazy about gambling, especially since it has become a bad habit for them every day, and it becomes even more difficult every day.

Everything in excess is definitely not good, like alcohol and the like, if it is used and played in a certain amount or budget, it will definitely not make gamblers go crazy, there are many things we don't know about the madness of gamblers out there that we may never have heard of before, if it's just borrowing. I may have heard of money from loan sharks for gambling or other things, especially in a case that happened in my country, a man was found to have committed suicide because he was in debt with a loan shark because he lost gambling. It's quite ironic to see things like that continue to happen and not provide important lessons for other gamblers.

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April 13, 2024, 07:35:43 PM
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Ones a gambler has reached the stage whereby they don't take advise from anyone again, they are bound to make life threatening decision which might cause them their lives because they are likely to face depression and that could lead them to commit suicide after they must have sold all their life properties for the purpose of gambling. Gambling addiction to that level can even lead the gambler to start criminal activities just to gamble or to pay up his/her debts. One thing we must not good opportunity to is, taking loan for gambling, that could even be the beginning of your addiction.

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April 13, 2024, 08:25:26 PM
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Ones a gambler has reached the stage whereby they don't take advise from anyone again, they are bound to make life threatening decision which might cause them their lives because they are likely to face depression and that could lead them to commit suicide after they must have sold all their life properties for the purpose of gambling. Gambling addiction to that level can even lead the gambler to start criminal activities just to gamble or to pay up his/her debts. One thing we must not good opportunity to is, taking loan for gambling, that could even be the beginning of your addiction.
That is a very dangerous addiction zone gamblers enter, because they start being a physical threat to the society and to themselves. Once the first signs are spotted, they have to be immediately accompanied by health services of the local community, in order to not let things escalate to a point where they are going to hurt themselves and people around.

Suicide can be seen as a measure to get rid of the problems they are facing in life and can't revert. That is the most drastic measure someone can think and execute in life. Criminal approaches are still part of feeding the addiction's process. It might be seen as a potential solution for the issue of having ran out of money. So they start stealing from others in order to maintain their gambling routines, expecting they will be able to revert losses. For some addicted gamblers involved in criminals activities, it's possible they imagine it will be possible to pay their victims back once they have recovered from losses.

Anyway, it's never going to happen...

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April 13, 2024, 09:03:41 PM
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Well, they aren't called addicts for nothing. If there's no money to gamble and there's an urge to their mind, for sure they'll gonna take the risks just to satisfy their wants. Do you think it's psychological or an emotional need that gambling addicts tend to do this risks?
This is exactly how nasty some addicts are . Some can even go out of their way to do worse taking huge loans just for some mindless staking without even having a guarantee of how they could possibly get some money to offset the loan. This is the reason why at the end of the day , most of these addicts end up bankrupt some even at the brink of becoming homeless. If as a gambler you are not able to control yourself and manage time and money spent on gambling stakes and activities then you are either not mature enough to gamble or you too irresponsible. One of the major reasons gambling is 18+ plus is based on the capacity to make mature decisions.

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