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April 09, 2024, 09:06:44 PM
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the people who keep complaining about anything should check themselves
lol
complaining leads us to no other place than misery and bad vibes.
and if you're here for so long you know that vibes matter.

to have good results as a gambler you probably need accoountability, knowing when to stop and emotional awareness.

I usually complain when I lose my bet but only on that specific time and not all throughout my day after I lose. This is entertainment we are getting on gambling, we lose some and we win some. Most important thing is the experience even the losses it helps us to appreciate more when we win.

Sometimes winning just a mere 100$ for a day of gambling is almost special to us because we lose big time in the past so experiencing a little bit of win can be easily appreciated since we know how hard to win.

I think that having this feeling of missing out, or going like "wow that was for just a little" like when you team misses a goal, is one thing
but being grumpy and sad or angry about it, and putting everyone around us in a bad mood because of our feelings is a different thing
many levels of complaining maybe

I agree that losing makes us appreciate winning more, the same way as sad makes us appreciate happiness more too

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April 10, 2024, 09:02:43 AM
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I think that having this feeling of missing out, or going like "wow that was for just a little" like when you team misses a goal, is one thing
but being grumpy and sad or angry about it, and putting everyone around us in a bad mood because of our feelings is a different thing
many levels of complaining maybe

I agree that losing makes us appreciate winning more, the same way as sad makes us appreciate happiness more too

Yeah, at the end of the day it is our own responsibility to stop before it's too late.

Many people get frustrated when they lose and start blaming anyone else but themselves.

I think it's fair to say that the behavior you are describing is the most popular. It's not a good one though.

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April 11, 2024, 07:06:59 AM
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Feel the same. Yuan's story truly underscores the importance of addressing gambling addiction and fostering a culture of responsible gaming. This incident motivates us to advocate for better resources and support systems for those facing gambling challenges, emphasizing the positive impact of preventive measures and education. It's an opportunity to rally together, promoting awareness and help for those in need, reinforcing the message that gambling should be enjoyable and safe, without compromising the well being of individuals or their families.
If you want to make gambling safe then you do not really have too many options, you either stop gambling altogether or you use play money when gambling, those are the only two ways in which you can make gambling perfectly safe, but the moment you use money for your hobby, you need to also take the responsibility for the losses you may suffer, there is no way around it, as even if I think we must do what we can to help others that are suffering from a gambling addiction, it is also undeniable they are 100% responsible for their situation, as they disregarded their own safety just to gamble a little bit more.
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April 11, 2024, 09:09:35 AM
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Feel the same. Yuan's story truly underscores the importance of addressing gambling addiction and fostering a culture of responsible gaming. This incident motivates us to advocate for better resources and support systems for those facing gambling challenges, emphasizing the positive impact of preventive measures and education. It's an opportunity to rally together, promoting awareness and help for those in need, reinforcing the message that gambling should be enjoyable and safe, without compromising the well being of individuals or their families.
If you want to make gambling safe then you do not really have too many options, you either stop gambling altogether or you use play money when gambling, those are the only two ways in which you can make gambling perfectly safe, but the moment you use money for your hobby, you need to also take the responsibility for the losses you may suffer, there is no way around it, as even if I think we must do what we can to help others that are suffering from a gambling addiction, it is also undeniable they are 100% responsible for their situation, as they disregarded their own safety just to gamble a little bit more.

Indeed, but most gamblers can't deal with it, emotions and greed always hurting them when they are involve with their gambling sessions surely after suffering from a defeats they will be out of control with their emotions pushing them to do things unusual, gambling addictions creates un-balance ways of thinking, like what you said if you wanted not to be involve and not to suffer on losing your money better to play with games that are not requires real money.

But once you start using your hard-earned money, that's where the pressure will begin, after experiencing either winning or losing, your appetite increase and without good emotional control, you'll wreck everything and will create addiction inside you.

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April 11, 2024, 09:44:27 AM
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Feel the same. Yuan's story truly underscores the importance of addressing gambling addiction and fostering a culture of responsible gaming. This incident motivates us to advocate for better resources and support systems for those facing gambling challenges, emphasizing the positive impact of preventive measures and education. It's an opportunity to rally together, promoting awareness and help for those in need, reinforcing the message that gambling should be enjoyable and safe, without compromising the well being of individuals or their families.
as even if I think we must do what we can to help others that are suffering from a gambling addiction, it is also undeniable they are 100% responsible for their situation, as they disregarded their own safety just to gamble a little bit more.

Gambling addicts are getting lesser support because of the difficulty in identifying the early signs of addiction in a player not close to us. Help is only rendered when needed or virtually proven signs is made available. When an addict doesn't show or open up his problems to people around him it's quite hard to figure out his addictive behaviors. Since it's mostly done online, his funds are not being tracked by his acquittances. In society today, many gamblers don't recognize the early gambling symptoms in them, making the identification process very difficult, or the need to help an addict. That's why gamblers must focus on not finding themselves in a condition as difficult as problem gambling.

The healing process is quite very hard to find out by an outside body, unless told, in most cases, especially at the early stages. That's why most helping hands may have not been recorded on behalf of gamblers. Even in environments where gambling addiction strives, it's strenuous getting an addict to therapy. Many addicts when in therapy make the task burdensome for the therapist, due to the difficulty in curing gambling addiction. Unsteady attendance to therapy sessions delays quick recovery. And many addicts find it hard to comply with their therapist, by making it to their therapy sessions.

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April 11, 2024, 10:28:57 AM
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Indeed, but most gamblers can't deal with it, emotions and greed always hurting them when they are involve with their gambling sessions surely after suffering from a defeats they will be out of control with their emotions pushing them to do things unusual, gambling addictions creates un-balance ways of thinking, like what you said if you wanted not to be involve and not to suffer on losing your money better to play with games that are not requires real money.

But once you start using your hard-earned money, that's where the pressure will begin, after experiencing either winning or losing, your appetite increase and without good emotional control, you'll wreck everything and will create addiction inside you.

Playing demo games is like a wasting of time to addicted gamblers. Moreover, I'm not an addicted gambler but I don't find it interesting playing games where money is not involve. And yes, the emotional aspect of gambling is not being properly talk about as it requires. Gambling is one of the source that lead to numerous unhealthy behaviors you can think of, thus, having a strong emotional control is very necessary.

It's saddening addicts overlook the signs of their addiction until it grows to stage where it becomes difficult to handle. For everyone out there seeing those signs should please take a break and do something calming. Don't try to force things when they are not working. It's better to miss the industry than to allow addiction to destroy your life.











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April 11, 2024, 01:28:13 PM
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Feel the same. Yuan's story truly underscores the importance of addressing gambling addiction and fostering a culture of responsible gaming. This incident motivates us to advocate for better resources and support systems for those facing gambling challenges, emphasizing the positive impact of preventive measures and education. It's an opportunity to rally together, promoting awareness and help for those in need, reinforcing the message that gambling should be enjoyable and safe, without compromising the well being of individuals or their families.
as even if I think we must do what we can to help others that are suffering from a gambling addiction, it is also undeniable they are 100% responsible for their situation, as they disregarded their own safety just to gamble a little bit more.

Gambling addicts are getting lesser support because of the difficulty in identifying the early signs of addiction in a player not close to us. Help is only rendered when needed or virtually proven signs is made available. When an addict doesn't show or open up his problems to people around him it's quite hard to figure out his addictive behaviors. Since it's mostly done online, his funds are not being tracked by his acquittances. In society today, many gamblers don't recognize the early gambling symptoms in them, making the identification process very difficult, or the need to help an addict. That's why gamblers must focus on not finding themselves in a condition as difficult as problem gambling.

The healing process is quite very hard to find out by an outside body, unless told, in most cases, especially at the early stages. That's why most helping hands may have not been recorded on behalf of gamblers. Even in environments where gambling addiction strives, it's strenuous getting an addict to therapy. Many addicts when in therapy make the task burdensome for the therapist, due to the difficulty in curing gambling addiction. Unsteady attendance to therapy sessions delays quick recovery. And many addicts find it hard to comply with their therapist, by making it to their therapy sessions.
Gambling addiction's a serious issue. Some folks get caught up in it, and we need to help 'em out. The best way to do that is by spotting the warning signs early. Its about noticing changes - more money going out, changes in mood, that kind of thing. Its about being smart, preventive.

Now, the support system we have right now? Frankly, its not good enough. Its inadequate, needs a serious upgrade. Folks need practical strategies, not just empty promises. Therapy's part of it, but we need to make it accessible, make it work for the people who need it most.

We need a revolution in how we think about gambling. We need to make it safe, responsible, with safeguards to help folks who slip up. Its possible, believe me. Its not just about the money, its about protecting people, giving them a fair chance to beat this. We can make gambling great again, the right way.

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April 11, 2024, 02:38:07 PM
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I think that having this feeling of missing out, or going like "wow that was for just a little" like when you team misses a goal, is one thing
but being grumpy and sad or angry about it, and putting everyone around us in a bad mood because of our feelings is a different thing
many levels of complaining maybe

I agree that losing makes us appreciate winning more, the same way as sad makes us appreciate happiness more too

Yeah, at the end of the day it is our own responsibility to stop before it's too late.

Many people get frustrated when they lose and start blaming anyone else but themselves.

I think it's fair to say that the behavior you are describing is the most popular. It's not a good one though.

the crazy thing is that for some this will be much easier said than done
blaming others, revenge gambling, not being able to stop, are all commons behaviors

I wonder if there's a another way but I'm afraid there isn't.

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That is the height of it. I can't emagine how someone would go this far to the extent of kidnaping his own grand daughter all because he want his son in-law to pay a ransom of $72k to pay off his gambling loan. That is the reason why we keep on talking about gambling addiction and how it affects us in somany ways. Come to think of it how can a man of 65 years will still be playing gamble at his age? Like I always said gambling could be fun and can change someone's financial status but not what we can take to another dimension.

What do you think is wrong in having a 65 yr old man gamble? People that are in their 80s still gamble as the only limitation for someone to gamble is if you’re underage(mostly below the age of 18).
While I think this particular individual actions are deplorable, I see nothing wrong with a 65 yr old gambling responsibly at the casino.
People who have a problem gambling responsibly have done and probably would still do crazy things in a bid to get money. And such individuals, having accumulated a shit load of debts would cook up crazy ideas to get money and pay off their debts.

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April 11, 2024, 04:04:02 PM
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The only way is conquering oneself. Accept, be ready to stop the bad habit. Getting addicted to gambling  will ruin your emotional health, relationships and your Finances.

Moderation should be priortize in gambling to safeguard you from possible disasters that come with addiction. Expectations and chasing gain  without limit and self discipline is what leads to addiction in gambling.  We need to educate beginners and those who have interest about the reality in gambling.



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What do you think is wrong in having a 65 yr old man gamble? People that are in their 80s still gamble as the only limitation for someone to gamble is if you’re underage(mostly below the age of 18).
While I think this particular individual actions are deplorable, I see nothing wrong with a 65 yr old gambling responsibly at the casino.
People who have a problem gambling responsibly have done and probably would still do crazy things in a bid to get money. And such individuals, having accumulated a shit load of debts would cook up crazy ideas to get money and pay off their debts.
Of course there is no harm for those who are old and still gambling as long as they can gamble responsibly and I agree with what you say that the limit someone can gamble is only for those who are not more than 18 years old because for them have not been able to manage their gambling well and this will make their parents responsible for what they do, so it is important for those who have not reached the age of more than 18 years.

If someone does something crazy about gambling, of course they will continue to experience financial problems and they will of course have a lot of debt and also have difficulty paying it off because they keep hoping to get a big win that can enable them to pay off the debt they have, but it is very difficult to do so. win if you continue to gamble irresponsibly.
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April 11, 2024, 04:07:02 PM
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That grandfather's a fool. At his age, you should have your own vegetable garden, grow fresh fruits and vegetables, enjoy fishing, hunting, traveling to other countries. Take grandchildren to visit, to help his family, not to gamble. We all know that in many countries at such an old age it is not recommended to drive a car as it is associated with high risks. What this grandfather was hoping for by gambling is not quite clear to me. Probably he wanted to make a big score and immediately die from an overabundance of dopamine.

The idea of a ransom for his granddaughter seems absurd to me. I think this grandfather needs to be treated.
That's right, of course everyone who is addicted will of course have a bad impact on themselves so this will be very detrimental to themselves and some even harm other people because of their addiction to gambling and for those who are old and still continue to do so. gambling, of course, this will be very difficult for those closest to them if that person does not have an income and even though they have an income, of course this is still not good because we often see someone who loses in a bet, they will not be able to control their emotions and it is very unfortunate if The person is old and emotions will certainly cause disease for them.
Regret is always at the end, people do changed when they had already messed up and thats a usual case. Gambling business was so profitable on which this is the main reason on why it is that something
making huge revenue due to that very common gambler behavior. They would really be that having that kind of impulsive approach and feeling towards gambling specially on making money.
Once this thing is on your mind then the main thing that you do have or priority is to play no matter what.

There is no regret in the first; everything is always in the last. As long as there was an addiction, that's not normal anymore, to be honest. When we know that there is an addiction
that has formed in our personality, we should immediately start reducing it, as long as we can control it.

Because when the addiction gets worse, it will be difficult for us to quit in the end, and we will need the help of others close to us, either our own family or close friends.

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I'm not quite sure why you would want poor neighborhoods to not have casinos. In my opinion a rich person can afford a lot more entertainment than a poor person. Keeping a poor person from gambling is not a very fair solution even if you think that his level of education and financial literacy does not allow him to manage his money properly. In addition, a rich gambler to get emotions must make a bet of $100, and a poor gambler is enough to make a bet of $1 and he will experience similar emotions.   

Oh, if it were like this! If it were like you said, I would wholeheartedly support placing slot machines and some other gambling facilities in the poor neighborhoods. But unfortunately  if you are uneducated, more often than not, it's never enough for you to win couple of dollars. You want to win really a lot, thinking that big money can bring you happiness, and thus you risk a lot, and often you lose it. Maybe it wouldn't look like a big amount for a rich person, but for you it's all you have.

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April 12, 2024, 09:01:56 AM
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The only way is conquering oneself. Accept, be ready to stop the bad habit. Getting addicted to gambling  will ruin your emotional health, relationships and your Finances.

Moderation should be priortize in gambling to safeguard you from possible disasters that come with addiction. Expectations and chasing gain  without limit and self discipline is what leads to addiction in gambling.  We need to educate beginners and those who have interest about the reality in gambling.


A person who is addicted to gambling and participates in gambling must suffer most of the losses. Because the addict is less likely to win because he doesn't know how to strategize. When a person gambles if he uses strategies then he is likely to win eventually, although gambling is not always about strategy but about luck. However, there are many ways to win gambling games, so if you adopt strategies, you will have a higher chance of winning.

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April 12, 2024, 11:38:07 AM
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What do you think is wrong in having a 65 yr old man gamble? People that are in their 80s still gamble as the only limitation for someone to gamble is if you’re underage(mostly below the age of 18).
While I think this particular individual actions are deplorable, I see nothing wrong with a 65 yr old gambling responsibly at the casino.
People who have a problem gambling responsibly have done and probably would still do crazy things in a bid to get money. And such individuals, having accumulated a shit load of debts would cook up crazy ideas to get money and pay off their debts.
Of course there is no harm for those who are old and still gambling as long as they can gamble responsibly and I agree with what you say that the limit someone can gamble is only for those who are not more than 18 years old because for them have not been able to manage their gambling well and this will make their parents responsible for what they do, so it is important for those who have not reached the age of more than 18 years.

If someone does something crazy about gambling, of course they will continue to experience financial problems and they will of course have a lot of debt and also have difficulty paying it off because they keep hoping to get a big win that can enable them to pay off the debt they have, but it is very difficult to do so. win if you continue to gamble irresponsibly.

I guess that argument is true, continue playing irresponsibly will only lead you to lose more and in terms of financial capabilities once you lose everything you'll do something that unusual like loaning money or selling your valuable items, and if you lose again the next resort is doing something that unexpectedly, something like doing crimes or begging for money to continue your gambling activities.

Though there are responsible gambler who knows how to quit but most of the time, there are more gambler who are not, they push more even they continue losing money.

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What do you think is wrong in having a 65 yr old man gamble? People that are in their 80s still gamble as the only limitation for someone to gamble is if you’re underage(mostly below the age of 18).
While I think this particular individual actions are deplorable, I see nothing wrong with a 65 yr old gambling responsibly at the casino.
People who have a problem gambling responsibly have done and probably would still do crazy things in a bid to get money. And such individuals, having accumulated a shit load of debts would cook up crazy ideas to get money and pay off their debts.
Of course there is no harm for those who are old and still gambling as long as they can gamble responsibly and I agree with what you say that the limit someone can gamble is only for those who are not more than 18 years old because for them have not been able to manage their gambling well and this will make their parents responsible for what they do, so it is important for those who have not reached the age of more than 18 years.

If someone does something crazy about gambling, of course they will continue to experience financial problems and they will of course have a lot of debt and also have difficulty paying it off because they keep hoping to get a big win that can enable them to pay off the debt they have, but it is very difficult to do so. win if you continue to gamble irresponsibly.

I guess that argument is true, continue playing irresponsibly will only lead you to lose more and in terms of financial capabilities once you lose everything you'll do something that unusual like loaning money or selling your valuable items, and if you lose again the next resort is doing something that unexpectedly, something like doing crimes or begging for money to continue your gambling activities.

Though there are responsible gambler who knows how to quit but most of the time, there are more gambler who are not, they push more even they continue losing money.

some people will be able to draw a line sooner or later and then respect their limits
but those who can't are slowly (or sometimes fast) walking in the direction of ruin
that's really sad to see, true. these people need help, nobody should take a loan to gamble and gamble more than they can afford to lose

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April 12, 2024, 02:54:16 PM
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I'm not quite sure why you would want poor neighborhoods to not have casinos. In my opinion a rich person can afford a lot more entertainment than a poor person. Keeping a poor person from gambling is not a very fair solution even if you think that his level of education and financial literacy does not allow him to manage his money properly. In addition, a rich gambler to get emotions must make a bet of $100, and a poor gambler is enough to make a bet of $1 and he will experience similar emotions.   

Oh, if it were like this! If it were like you said, I would wholeheartedly support placing slot machines and some other gambling facilities in the poor neighborhoods. But unfortunately  if you are uneducated, more often than not, it's never enough for you to win couple of dollars. You want to win really a lot, thinking that big money can bring you happiness, and thus you risk a lot, and often you lose it. Maybe it wouldn't look like a big amount for a rich person, but for you it's all you have.

It’s great to think about providing entertainment options like gambling in poorer neighborhoods as a way to offer equal recreational opportunities. Gambling can indeed be thrilling and serve as a leisure activity when managed responsibly. However, it’s also crucial to ensure that such facilities don’t lead to financial distress for individuals who might already be vulnerable. Striking a balance by implementing safeguards, like betting limits and financial education, can help ensure that gambling remains a source of fun without becoming a financial burden. This way, we can maintain the positive aspects of gambling as entertainment while protecting those most at risk.
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The only way is conquering oneself. Accept, be ready to stop the bad habit. Getting addicted to gambling  will ruin your emotional health, relationships and your Finances.

Moderation should be priortize in gambling to safeguard you from possible disasters that come with addiction. Expectations and chasing gain  without limit and self discipline is what leads to addiction in gambling.  We need to educate beginners and those who have interest about the reality in gambling.


Moderation is key, as you mentioned. It’s essential to set limits for oneself not just in terms of how much money to wager, but also how much time to spend gambling. It’s about balancing the thrill with responsibility and recognizing when it stops being fun and starts becoming a problem.

Educating beginners and interested parties about these realities is vital. By spreading awareness about the risks and responsible gambling practices, we can help prevent the negative impacts of gambling addiction. This kind of education could greatly benefit from personal stories, statistics, and professional guidance to provide a full picture of the gambling landscape.

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Gambling addicts are getting lesser support because of the difficulty in identifying the early signs of addiction in a player not close to us. Help is only rendered when needed or virtually proven signs is made available. When an addict doesn't show or open up his problems to people around him it's quite hard to figure out his addictive behaviors. Since it's mostly done online, his funds are not being tracked by his acquittances. In society today, many gamblers don't recognize the early gambling symptoms in them, making the identification process very difficult, or the need to help an addict. That's why gamblers must focus on not finding themselves in a condition as difficult as problem gambling.

The healing process is quite very hard to find out by an outside body, unless told, in most cases, especially at the early stages. That's why most helping hands may have not been recorded on behalf of gamblers. Even in environments where gambling addiction strives, it's strenuous getting an addict to therapy. Many addicts when in therapy make the task burdensome for the therapist, due to the difficulty in curing gambling addiction. Unsteady attendance to therapy sessions delays quick recovery. And many addicts find it hard to comply with their therapist, by making it to their therapy sessions.
Gambling addiction's a serious issue. Some folks get caught up in it, and we need to help 'em out. The best way to do that is by spotting the warning signs early. Its about noticing changes - more money going out, changes in mood, that kind of thing. Its about being smart, preventive.

Now, the support system we have right now? Frankly, its not good enough. Its inadequate, needs a serious upgrade. Folks need practical strategies, not just empty promises. Therapy's part of it, but we need to make it accessible, make it work for the people who need it most.

We need a revolution in how we think about gambling. We need to make it safe, responsible, with safeguards to help folks who slip up. Its possible, believe me. Its not just about the money, its about protecting people, giving them a fair chance to beat this. We can make gambling great again, the right way.

I fully understand the need to reach out to problem gamblers, because of the emotional struggle they're undergoing each day. It's not a simple task for the helper either. But with awareness and preventive provisions for newbie players, it could be achieved. The other problem would be how could this be circulated among all the gamblers in the world. It's a big challenge for the gambling niche. Yes, I strongly accept that it's achievable. Given time newbie players can adjust to the advice of people around them or make it open to their loved ones that he's now into gambling. Hence, making it simple for them to watch him closely, and be able to detect any new behavioral change in his life. However, time plays a vital role in such a development or change.

Not every player, due to the stigma placed on gamblers, is comfortable sharing with others about his gambling habit or addictive problems. I think the gambling community online has work to do, by building a strong awareness for players to discuss their problems online with other experienced players. These could be a bit helpful, but not compared to facial therapy with a loved one or a therapist. In a nutshell, what is most important is starting from somewhere. Other than leaving the addict to undergo the stress alone, with no helper at his disposal.

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Oh, if it were like this! If it were like you said, I would wholeheartedly support placing slot machines and some other gambling facilities in the poor neighborhoods. But unfortunately  if you are uneducated, more often than not, it's never enough for you to win couple of dollars. You want to win really a lot, thinking that big money can bring you happiness, and thus you risk a lot, and often you lose it. Maybe it wouldn't look like a big amount for a rich person, but for you it's all you have.

It’s great to think about providing entertainment options like gambling in poorer neighborhoods as a way to offer equal recreational opportunities. Gambling can indeed be thrilling and serve as a leisure activity when managed responsibly. However, it’s also crucial to ensure that such facilities don’t lead to financial distress for individuals who might already be vulnerable. Striking a balance by implementing safeguards, like betting limits and financial education, can help ensure that gambling remains a source of fun without becoming a financial burden. This way, we can maintain the positive aspects of gambling as entertainment while protecting those most at risk.

Although I quite agree with your idea of taking some precautions for the sake of safety and also to help people experience the positive benefits of gambling which is fun but I think overall providing gambling entertainment to the poor or anyone else is too risky an idea, the logic is that if there are enough other forms of entertainment that can be chosen to be provided then why should it be gambling? I'm sure we all know about the worst risks involved in gambling, therefore it is not the right idea to provide entertainment that is full of risks to others.

What concerns me is the concern that if they don't follow through on some of the things that lead to prevention that the end result can be very fatal which is very possible for them to become addicted because in gambling the aspect of entertainment and fun can turn into stress and tension which can change a person's mind, so basically providing a form of entertainment such as gambling to others is like you are taking someone to the edge of the cliff.

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