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April 19, 2024, 11:21:29 AM
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It's not just lust, but also greed that makes them continue to gamble even though they have experienced a lot of losses, because maybe they still have thoughts of being able to win big. If it continues like that, I don't think there will be an end, unless they really... Really aware that gambling is just entertainment, which if done excessively can make them miserable and suffer. Maybe if I had a lot of money I would build a casino so I could make a profit.
Sometimes it's strange to me why rich people spend hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars just to have fun gambling and making money in it, even though they could have built an online casino starting from a small one so they could make a profit from the gambling they play, which is obviously more. make a lot of money from gambling, unless it's a poor gambler, there's no problem considering gambling as just entertainment, don't overdo it which will result in gambling addiction in the end. Most of the facts are that poor gamblers are more crazy about gambling than rich gamblers.

Not all gamblers can consider gambling as entertainment, in fact they consider this to be more than just entertainment like a place to make money or more than that, that's why poor gamblers always rely on the hope of getting rich quickly by gambling, they don't think that getting rich needs a process and most gamblers don't want to. going through the process of getting rich they just want to get rich quickly by gambling but in the end they end up getting addicted to gambling and spending more money on gambling makes them poorer.

with those who can spend thousands of dollars or millions of dollars to gamble, I think they don't want the process of getting money, they only think about getting rich instantly so they risk the money they have to gamble, with their instant desire it makes they don't realize that the gambling they do only makes them lose a certain amount of money, even thousands or millions of dollars, even if they have thoughts about building a casino, I don't think it can be done with a little capital, because there are many aspects that they also have to pay attention to. You can't build the casino you want alone, of course to build a casino you need other energy or expertise and with that, of course we need other people who are experts in their field.

It is true, not all gamblers can consider gambling as entertainment, because I am sure that many of them are people who gamble with the aim of making money with the capital they have in the hope that a miracle will happen. It is very unfortunate that they think they can get rich quickly by just gambling because it will not only make them addicted, but of course they will have other bigger problems and the worst point is that they will probably be destitute.

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April 19, 2024, 11:39:07 AM
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It’s great to think about providing entertainment options like gambling in poorer neighborhoods as a way to offer equal recreational opportunities. Gambling can indeed be thrilling and serve as a leisure activity when managed responsibly. However, it’s also crucial to ensure that such facilities don’t lead to financial distress for individuals who might already be vulnerable. Striking a balance by implementing safeguards, like betting limits and financial education, can help ensure that gambling remains a source of fun without becoming a financial burden. This way, we can maintain the positive aspects of gambling as entertainment while protecting those most at risk.

I will say it again, I'm confident that for those who are in desperate need of money gambling can't provide entertainment.  Rather, it will cause troubles for them. Betting limits have never worked, we all know that. But providing financial education, like you suggested, is a good idea in my opinion. And to make the process of learning more interesting and enjoyable, maybe, hooking it up with gambling is a good idea too.
On the time that you are already that playing for the sake of money or having some income then you would really be finding yourself to be that stressful rather than on enjoying yourself because you've been that
trying out to achieve something which is impossible. This is the main reason on why gambling industry is really that profitable because of this kind of main behavior of most gamblers on which they are both trying out to chase their loses and trying out to make  themselves as winners on which we know that this isnt something that you could really be able to done it or cant be attained up if you arent that lucky enough.

The thing that you should really avoid as much as you could is really that becoming that addicted with gambling because on the time that you do find yourself that getting addicted into it then there's no
way that you could really be able to easily get out not until you would really be losing up on everything on which this is something that you must avoid in the first place.
Play for fun and play for entertainment.


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April 19, 2024, 11:42:41 AM
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I will say it again, I'm confident that for those who are in desperate need of money gambling can't provide entertainment.  Rather, it will cause troubles for them. Betting limits have never worked, we all know that. But providing financial education, like you suggested, is a good idea in my opinion. And to make the process of learning more interesting and enjoyable, maybe, hooking it up with gambling is a good idea too.
And I strongly agree with that. Desperation makes us cloud our decision-making in life and that's when we keep on betting without any rest because we just want our money back if ever a losing spree happens. I have been in that position while playing slots. The thing with slots is, that they can give multipliers that can surprising and that gives hope to a gambler who continues betting on it.
The thought of hitting that high multiplier that will equal all the losses that a gambler made or maybe more will always be there but I can tell based on experience that is so rare to happen. I've played in different slot providers and the starting point is mostly a losing spree and this is where addiction could actually spark, when a gambler thinks he can get it back once he keeps on playing that same game. It's the sad truth but it happens, without any financial control we could be devoured by gambling and we will spend even our savings just to get our revenge.

Many gamblers lose their minds during a gambling session and this state can last for some time after losing, but it takes much longer to think about kidnapping a person and demanding a ransom for him. In my opinion, you'd have to be pretty desperate to pull that off and a fool to do it to your own family.

In addition, one should realize that there are quite a few people with unbalanced psyche among us. In my opinion, this man's act speaks of his inadequacy, which requires the attention of professionals.

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April 19, 2024, 02:02:16 PM
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Many gamblers lose their minds during a gambling session and this state can last for some time after losing, but it takes much longer to think about kidnapping a person and demanding a ransom for him. In my opinion, you'd have to be pretty desperate to pull that off and a fool to do it to your own family.

In addition, one should realize that there are quite a few people with unbalanced psyche among us. In my opinion, this man's act speaks of his inadequacy, which requires the attention of professionals.
That's because they can't treat gambling as an entertainment but a place to make money. Gambling can gives them money but gambling is a way to have fun in your spare time so you must not use gambling to make money or have a high hopes to make money. When people lose their money in gambling, they can't thinks clear about what next they do instead just thinks to recover their lose but that will not be easy because gambling is not gives you the money.

We must realizes that many people already lose in gambling and we must prevents that happens to us by limiting ourselves when playing gambling. If we can do that, we will not have to worry with anything bad happens because we can takes care of ourselves while playing gambling. We must treat gambling as an entertainment to avoids the problem.

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April 19, 2024, 04:20:02 PM
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Yes it's true. Gamble is not what a gambler will take as a side job because it's not a thing that will provide a constant inflow of money. Many times luck is not always there for us when we are gambling, it comes ones a a while. Money one should gamble with is a type that one can risk then also afford to lose at ones. There are games when we can always think that will provide winning for us but most time we don't win at all

If most of the time we lose, then why do you think that gambling can be considered a side job?

In my opinion it is entertainment, and as we know for any entertainment the client has to pay. Whether it is a movie, dinner at a restaurant, skydiving or gambling. Whether you win or not depends on the reward algorithms, but this algorithm will not reward you too often, because the casino always has an advantage over you and someone has to pay for the operating costs of the casino, buying a license, etc. Gambling is far from a side job.


I know it's hard to believe but for sure there are profitable gamblers around
of course it's the minor part of all the gamblers but some people can make money over the long term only by gambling...

though I agree that it's not the best style of side job...

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Yes, I agree with you that the point is not to take gambling seriously or do not prioritize gambling because it is nothing more than a game of probability that runs full of uncertainty, which usually in some cases most people are even dominated by regret and disappointment when always trying to make gambling as an income. And what we have to pay attention to here is the possibility of losing or the risk because in gambling usually the risk will be much greater than the chances of winning. Especially if you or whoever it is trying to make gambling a job to find the main income then most likely instead of earning but most likely you will actually experience a lot of losses. You already said one of the reasons is because gambling is a business for casinos that will benefit themselves by taking advantage of gamblers who have a wrong understanding or take advantage of those who always overdo it, so we always recommend seeing gambling as an entertainment game.
If it is a fact, what happens is that the game should be seen as entertainment as something that should be available so that you can have a different time, we cannot say that it is only for enjoyment or only pleasure, the goal is to make money, but In the event that it is not fulfilled then we still have to accept it, when we start inventing to try to earn more money we can take many risks, among those risks is that of losing much more money, so these are the things that we must see, first, see how much money we are willing to spend in the casino, for me that is a priority before playing, second, if we do everything possible to win and it is not achieved, we have to assume that it was lost and another day we have to keep trying, but seeing it as income cannot happen because it is simply irresponsible thinking.

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Yes, I agree with you that the point is not to take gambling seriously or do not prioritize gambling because it is nothing more than a game of probability that runs full of uncertainty, which usually in some cases most people are even dominated by regret and disappointment when always trying to make gambling as an income. And what we have to pay attention to here is the possibility of losing or the risk because in gambling usually the risk will be much greater than the chances of winning. Especially if you or whoever it is trying to make gambling a job to find the main income then most likely instead of earning but most likely you will actually experience a lot of losses. You already said one of the reasons is because gambling is a business for casinos that will benefit themselves by taking advantage of gamblers who have a wrong understanding or take advantage of those who always overdo it, so we always recommend seeing gambling as an entertainment game.
If it is a fact, what happens is that the game should be seen as entertainment as something that should be available so that you can have a different time, we cannot say that it is only for enjoyment or only pleasure, the goal is to make money, but In the event that it is not fulfilled then we still have to accept it, when we start inventing to try to earn more money we can take many risks, among those risks is that of losing much more money, so these are the things that we must see, first, see how much money we are willing to spend in the casino, for me that is a priority before playing, second, if we do everything possible to win and it is not achieved, we have to assume that it was lost and another day we have to keep trying, but seeing it as income cannot happen because it is simply irresponsible thinking.


some people will enjoy the thrill of making and losing money more than other people
it varies
it's normal too that we have different preferences on what to do with our free time and with our money
no big deal with that

the problem is when our habits starts to interfere with living a good life and when we start to hurt others

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April 19, 2024, 06:10:05 PM
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Yes, I agree with you that the point is not to take gambling seriously or do not prioritize gambling because it is nothing more than a game of probability that runs full of uncertainty, which usually in some cases most people are even dominated by regret and disappointment when always trying to make gambling as an income. And what we have to pay attention to here is the possibility of losing or the risk because in gambling usually the risk will be much greater than the chances of winning. Especially if you or whoever it is trying to make gambling a job to find the main income then most likely instead of earning but most likely you will actually experience a lot of losses. You already said one of the reasons is because gambling is a business for casinos that will benefit themselves by taking advantage of gamblers who have a wrong understanding or take advantage of those who always overdo it, so we always recommend seeing gambling as an entertainment game.
If it is a fact, what happens is that the game should be seen as entertainment as something that should be available so that you can have a different time, we cannot say that it is only for enjoyment or only pleasure, the goal is to make money, but In the event that it is not fulfilled then we still have to accept it, when we start inventing to try to earn more money we can take many risks, among those risks is that of losing much more money, so these are the things that we must see, first, see how much money we are willing to spend in the casino, for me that is a priority before playing, second, if we do everything possible to win and it is not achieved, we have to assume that it was lost and another day we have to keep trying, but seeing it as income cannot happen because it is simply irresponsible thinking.

You have said that if we want to get a bigger win then the level of risk that we have to take must also be high and you have also said the right thing that most likely a gambler will only experience a greater amount of loss, so this is the reason why gambling should not be used as a place to earn, or that means don't put hopes on winning because overall when you take more risks or gamble too often then most likely these actions will only make you experience a greater amount of loss than getting a win.

Actually if we think using common sense then of course the better choice is not to make gambling as anything even if for example you come with the intention of having fun because it is still ultimately like the idea of losing your money intentionally, and if there are other activities that can also be fun without the risk of losing money then why don't you choose it? This is suspicious, but yes, everyone has their own choices and maybe I would just suggest that when you make gambling a pleasure activity for example then you must really apply caution and high vigilance because it is very possible that at some point you experience a change in mindset that leads to impulsive gambling due to not being able to resist all the temptations that look tempting which in the end turns out to be the result that does not match the expectations that make you emotional and make decisions that lead to impulsive gambling. On the other hand you have a pretty good prioritization where you prepare yourself for the possibility of losing before you start gambling, and this is a smart idea to strengthen self-acceptance when it turns out that we lose so as not to get too emotional.

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April 22, 2024, 06:44:04 AM
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some people will enjoy the thrill of making and losing money more than other people
it varies
it's normal too that we have different preferences on what to do with our free time and with our money
no big deal with that

the problem is when our habits starts to interfere with living a good life and when we start to hurt others
This is just like the people that enjoy bungee jumping and other extreme activities, as on the surface it may not make much sense for people to risk their lives and their health when they seem to gain nothing from the activity.

However for those people it is completely worth it, as what they are after is the adrenaline rush they may get and that makes them to feel alive, so I really think that many of those that become addicted gamblers have a similar way to think about gambling, and that is what ends up getting them into so much trouble.
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April 22, 2024, 06:55:25 AM
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some people will enjoy the thrill of making and losing money more than other people
it varies
it's normal too that we have different preferences on what to do with our free time and with our money
no big deal with that

the problem is when our habits starts to interfere with living a good life and when we start to hurt others
This is just like the people that enjoy bungee jumping and other extreme activities, as on the surface it may not make much sense for people to risk their lives and their health when they seem to gain nothing from the activity.

However for those people it is completely worth it, as what they are after is the adrenaline rush they may get and that makes them to feel alive, so I really think that many of those that become addicted gamblers have a similar way to think about gambling, and that is what ends up getting them into so much trouble.
When people become addicted to gambling, they no longer think about themselves because they will only think about gambling. Losing money will just be normal for them, and they don't consider it something big.
Those who are addicted to gambling may start to annoy other people by starting to lose their temper, changing habits and making people around them wonder. It is difficult to pull them out of gambling because they have become addicted to gambling.
That's why when playing gambling, we have to be able to control ourselves well so we don't experience these problems.

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April 23, 2024, 07:49:13 PM
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When people become addicted to gambling, they no longer think about themselves because they will only think about gambling. Losing money will just be normal for them, and they don't consider it something big.
Those who are addicted to gambling may start to annoy other people by starting to lose their temper, changing habits and making people around them wonder. It is difficult to pull them out of gambling because they have become addicted to gambling.
That's why when playing gambling, we have to be able to control ourselves well so we don't experience these problems.
I think that those who are addicted to chronic gambling turn into psychopaths, they start robbing, stealing, manipulating, they really can't feel the pain of the person who is the victim

I once read in an article, several rich families in a country advised their families who were addicted to gambling to undergo brain surgery, the aim was to change their behavior to become empathetic again like other normal humans

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April 23, 2024, 08:01:12 PM
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some people will enjoy the thrill of making and losing money more than other people
it varies
it's normal too that we have different preferences on what to do with our free time and with our money
no big deal with that

the problem is when our habits starts to interfere with living a good life and when we start to hurt others
This is just like the people that enjoy bungee jumping and other extreme activities, as on the surface it may not make much sense for people to risk their lives and their health when they seem to gain nothing from the activity.

However for those people it is completely worth it, as what they are after is the adrenaline rush they may get and that makes them to feel alive, so I really think that many of those that become addicted gamblers have a similar way to think about gambling, and that is what ends up getting them into so much trouble.
When people become addicted to gambling, they no longer think about themselves because they will only think about gambling. Losing money will just be normal for them, and they don't consider it something big.
Those who are addicted to gambling may start to annoy other people by starting to lose their temper, changing habits and making people around them wonder. It is difficult to pull them out of gambling because they have become addicted to gambling.
That's why when playing gambling, we have to be able to control ourselves well so we don't experience these problems.

it's interesting how sometimes we can be fooled by reality
if we choose to ignore things instead of looking at what we have at our hands and deciding with it
I understand it happening though I still think it is quite crazy
the way is learning to be better than yesterday...

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April 24, 2024, 01:40:49 PM
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some people will enjoy the thrill of making and losing money more than other people
it varies
it's normal too that we have different preferences on what to do with our free time and with our money
no big deal with that

the problem is when our habits starts to interfere with living a good life and when we start to hurt others

It is very true, because when things have to be approached from the most common point of view, they have to happen in proportion so that we generate our money/fun/enjoyment or not, if we maintain that balance I think things are fine. , but the moment things get out of control is when we have to evaluate what is happening, because basically when we generate some money in some way, very few people repeat it, they simply leave it there so that it generates more money and they have options to be better, but that ends up wearing down, and when enjoyment turns into pressure, stress, then other consequences come and the biggest one is addiction and that is what affects us and our family, sometimes the environment. environment, and that is damage that occurs and is very harmful, that is what must be avoided.

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some people will enjoy the thrill of making and losing money more than other people
it varies
it's normal too that we have different preferences on what to do with our free time and with our money
no big deal with that

the problem is when our habits starts to interfere with living a good life and when we start to hurt others

It is very true, because when things have to be approached from the most common point of view, they have to happen in proportion so that we generate our money/fun/enjoyment or not, if we maintain that balance I think things are fine. , but the moment things get out of control is when we have to evaluate what is happening, because basically when we generate some money in some way, very few people repeat it, they simply leave it there so that it generates more money and they have options to be better, but that ends up wearing down, and when enjoyment turns into pressure, stress, then other consequences come and the biggest one is addiction and that is what affects us and our family, sometimes the environment. environment, and that is damage that occurs and is very harmful, that is what must be avoided.


I think we take "making money" too much as a signal of success when this is not always true
one can make money in several different ways and a person who makes a lot of money without morality doesn't deserve a label of sucess
of course the final judge is always time and we have no way to bribe our pillows...
sometimes I wonder if I believe in karma as a wishful thinking thing or as truth... let it be

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April 24, 2024, 03:13:41 PM
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some people will enjoy the thrill of making and losing money more than other people
it varies
it's normal too that we have different preferences on what to do with our free time and with our money
no big deal with that

the problem is when our habits starts to interfere with living a good life and when we start to hurt others
This is just like the people that enjoy bungee jumping and other extreme activities, as on the surface it may not make much sense for people to risk their lives and their health when they seem to gain nothing from the activity.

However for those people it is completely worth it, as what they are after is the adrenaline rush they may get and that makes them to feel alive, so I really think that many of those that become addicted gamblers have a similar way to think about gambling, and that is what ends up getting them into so much trouble.
When people become addicted to gambling, they no longer think about themselves because they will only think about gambling. Losing money will just be normal for them, and they don't consider it something big.
Those who are addicted to gambling may start to annoy other people by starting to lose their temper, changing habits and making people around them wonder. It is difficult to pull them out of gambling because they have become addicted to gambling.
That's why when playing gambling, we have to be able to control ourselves well so we don't experience these problems.
Majority wont really be that stopping but instead they would really be continuing on the things that they've been dealing off with. Gamblers would really be that usually be tending to make out that kind of
approach on trying out to make that kind of chasing up their loses and thats why on the time that they've seen that they do still have that money they would really be definitely be tending to
continue on what they are doing because they do have that kind of mindset that they could really be able to make themselves that recover on what they do have lost and at the same time they are
really that wishing that they could really make out some nasty win which it would really be resulting for them to be able to make themselves to have that good winning.

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~snip~
I think we take "making money" too much as a signal of success when this is not always true
one can make money in several different ways and a person who makes a lot of money without morality doesn't deserve a label of sucess
of course the final judge is always time and we have no way to bribe our pillows...
sometimes I wonder if I believe in karma as a wishful thinking thing or as truth... let it be

Money in a way is an indicator of success, at least it is proof that people find what you are doing as valuable so they are willing to pay for it.

There might be other things that are extremely interesting, but maybe they are not valued by society. That's possible.

In the end as usual a balance is probably the best way of dealing with this.

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When people become addicted to gambling, they no longer think about themselves because they will only think about gambling. Losing money will just be normal for them, and they don't consider it something big.
Those who are addicted to gambling may start to annoy other people by starting to lose their temper, changing habits and making people around them wonder. It is difficult to pull them out of gambling because they have become addicted to gambling.
That's why when playing gambling, we have to be able to control ourselves well so we don't experience these problems.
I think that those who are addicted to chronic gambling turn into psychopaths, they start robbing, stealing, manipulating, they really can't feel the pain of the person who is the victim

I once read in an article, several rich families in a country advised their families who were addicted to gambling to undergo brain surgery, the aim was to change their behavior to become empathetic again like other normal humans
Of course, because they will do anything for pleasure and personal satisfaction, they don't care about the people who have been robbed because certain conditions caused by chronic gambling addiction really affect their thought patterns and feelings to become more uncontrollable.
There are quite lot of cases where gambling addicts have lost their source of income so what they do to make money is only criminal means.
This is very unfortunate incident and the worst thing is that the consequences can make everyone mindset and perspective towards gambling addicts much worse, they will think that gambling addicts are criminals.

This is the first time I have heard of brain surgery to change person thinking pattern, basically person thinking pattern will be related to suggestions and behavior.
If gambling addict can be completely kept away from gambling activities and instill mindset with certain beliefs plus encouragement to carry out various other positive activities, it can help change the mindset of gambling addict.
But all this takes time and cannot be done in short time.

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April 25, 2024, 02:39:13 PM
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~snip~
I think we take "making money" too much as a signal of success when this is not always true
one can make money in several different ways and a person who makes a lot of money without morality doesn't deserve a label of sucess
of course the final judge is always time and we have no way to bribe our pillows...
sometimes I wonder if I believe in karma as a wishful thinking thing or as truth... let it be

Money in a way is an indicator of success, at least it is proof that people find what you are doing as valuable so they are willing to pay for it.

There might be other things that are extremely interesting, but maybe they are not valued by society. That's possible.

In the end as usual a balance is probably the best way of dealing with this.

the thing with success definitions is interesting
my success definition doesn't have a lot to do with money, money is inside the equation but I put success way more related to free time, being able to choose what to do with your time and the people you want to spend time with

a bit like "full bank account, empty schedule" + happy and fit.

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I will say it again, I'm confident that for those who are in desperate need of money gambling can't provide entertainment.  Rather, it will cause troubles for them. Betting limits have never worked, we all know that. But providing financial education, like you suggested, is a good idea in my opinion. And to make the process of learning more interesting and enjoyable, maybe, hooking it up with gambling is a good idea too.
And I strongly agree with that. Desperation makes us cloud our decision-making in life and that's when we keep on betting without any rest because we just want our money back if ever a losing spree happens. ~

Thank you. The thing is that @FortuneFollower suggested providing "entertainment options" like gambling in poorer neighborhoods, and my reply was to that suggestion. I think overall it will do no good to poor people. I'm not trying to say that gambling is for rich people only, but it's definitely a bad idea, trying to "entertain" poor uneducated people with gambling. That would create even more cases with crazy acts of gambling addicts like in the OP. I hope you agree with that too.

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Majority wont really be that stopping but instead they would really be continuing on the things that they've been dealing off with. Gamblers would really be that usually be tending to make out that kind of
approach on trying out to make that kind of chasing up their loses and thats why on the time that they've seen that they do still have that money they would really be definitely be tending to
continue on what they are doing because they do have that kind of mindset that they could really be able to make themselves that recover on what they do have lost and at the same time they are
really that wishing that they could really make out some nasty win which it would really be resulting for them to be able to make themselves to have that good winning.
With those who cannot stop gambling in my opinion it is because they want to satisfy their curiosity, so that even though they experience losses they still continue to gamble to be able to get a win, instead of wanting to get a win but it only makes them even more miserable by wanting to chase losses that should not be done but they still do this dangerous action. even when they run out of money to gamble they can do things that should not be, such as stealing other people's money to return to gambling.
The impetus for the thought that makes them take dangerous actions is winning is none other than one of them because of their thoughts that think they can make the defeat they get turned into victory. But of course, victory cannot be obtained easily, the fact is that gambling will only end in defeat is a big possibility that is certain to happen, it is very rare for gamblers to easily win with the gambling they do.

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